Best Garage Door Torsion Springs - It's all about HIGH cycles.
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2022
- One of your garage door torsion springs just BROKE. But the other one is still holding strong. Now, do you replace just the one broken spring or both. If you have only one torsion spring should you replace it with two? Why not just stay with one? ... This video will cover some benefits of high cycle garage door springs. #garagedoorsprings #torsionsprings
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Some of the following torsion springs sizes will work for most garage doors. Yet is best to inquire a local dealer for high cycle springs.
Pair of 250 X 2" X 28" - 40" Garage Door Torsion Springs with Winding Bars (36.5)
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Garage Door Torsion Springs 1.75’’(Pair) with Non-Slip Winding Bars, Coated Torsion Springs with a Minimum of 10,000 Cycles (0.207X1.75''X24'')
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Garage Door Torsion Spring Steel Bearing 1" ID 2" OD
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Pair of 218 X 2" X 21" - 33" Garage Door Torsion Springs with Winding Bars (25)
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DURA-LIFT .218 x 2" x 26" Torsion Garage Springs (White, Left & Right Wound)
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Garage Door Torsion Springs 1.75’’(Pair) with Non-Slip Winding Bars, Coated Torsion Springs with a Minimum of 10,000 Cycles (0.207X1.75''X26'')
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Best video I've found so far on torsion springs. As a DIY'er even to my own peril; information is power.
Thank you so much for your feedback.
What sort of project are you tackling? What type of garage doors do you have?
Are the garage doors that you own a specific brand?
Good video, like most people on my street like myself go into the house thru the garage. I've had to replace the springs twice over 20 years. Garage door is insulated 16' wide. Not sure of wire diameter on springs. But will go with long life springs next time. People here that replace springs normally don't have them.
I replaced two 225-1.75-29 with two 234-2-31 which should give me higher cycle than the 225 spring but offers the same spring tension of 30 in*lb/turn. The .225 spring is rated at 17K cycles, while the .234 is rated at 27K cycles. Hopefully they will last longer. I used an online garage door spring calculator to determine the correct springs for my 16x7 door weighing 225 lbs.
Hello! That's fantastic! There's no doubt you will benefit from those higher cycle springs.
@@sosgds I was able to source a new 16' torsion tube so that will be my next project as the old one was all buggered up from all the previous spring replacements.
@MTB Biker like you said you change your garage door spring 225x1.75x29 to 234x2x31 so since that time how is going?
Because I need to replace may garage door spring which are both broke size was 225x1.75x28 I wand to replace higher cycles one what if Change 243x1.75x28 or do have any good suggestions? If you know thing about it please tell it will be help a lot thanks
@@rashidaazmi2844 Still working. Use an online spring calculator to determine the spring with the highest cycle rate for the weight of your door. Probably a good idea to weight your door with a bathroom scale to see if the 225x1.75x28 were correct. The spring rate is 31.2 in/lb/turn and 238lb door (two springs) and 15.2K cycles. If you want a 243 spring, you'll have to go 2 inch and much longer. 243x2x36 is 31.4 in/lb/turn and for 240lb door (two springs) with 40k cycle. So use an online calculator (workshoppist is what I used) to determine the best spring with highest cycle rate.
@@mtbbiker6401 thanks for reply
Awesome video! Keep up the great work!
wow a 20 year old door and d like 20 -30 thousand cycles...its a wonder the door itself, let alone the springs has lasted that long ...I'd check the rollers and the hinges esp the end hinges...and the cables to see if the door is capable of lasting as long as a new pair of hi cycle springs...maybe time to get a whole new door.... cost of repeated repairs on a door that is worn badly over time may cost more than a complete new door.... maybe better to just replace all...get out your pencil and add up both.... nice new midland insulated door always adds value and improves the looks of your garage.......(used to work for a midland dealer) about the best quality I've seen...fixed a lot of doors that weren't worth the repair bill but they plugged the hole... if all you can afford is just a repair, its a repair that you get....just make sure that the door is worth the money your investing. how long is it gonna last ?...maybe the cheaper springs now and budget for new door in a couple years... does it need rollers and cables now to get it to the place where you can budget a new one or , do you add up the repairs and figure out its better to replace now or....ya ...the super springs sound good but...what it all boils to is it workin now and how long will it continue to work...how many service calls is it gonna take to get the rest of the door to the life of the spring?..can you even get parts for that make and model of door still?...and will they still be available when you need them?...just food for thought...
....hope everyone out there makes the right decision for them and their situation...
WOW! This is amazing insight! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and experience.
Thank you my friend I’m learning a lot with your videos
awesome video! what size would you recommend for wayne dalton 8000 garage door? my single torsion spring broke and im trying to replace it with a pair of high cycle torsion springs. old broken torsion spring size is .243 x 1.75 x 38. thank u for all your informative videos. God bless
Hello. For the 8000 model I prefer a pair of 218 by 1 3/4" by 31 long. These should do just fine.
Awesome video. I have a 16x7 Wanye Dalton door that weighs 135 lbs and want to convert to 2 springs. I have watched some of your other videos and am ordering new flag brackets and Wayne Dalton cables, my question is what double spring would you recommend? Thanks
Excellent question!
No just so that I can have it clear in my head. Have the model 9100 garage door from Wayne Dalton? Does it have windows?
I have a 3 car garage door and i have 4 springs???? How do i adjust them???? I have 2 on left side amd 2 on right side… do i adjust the ones in the middle first or what do i do????
Thanks for the info!!!!!!
I prefer two when possible. If you watch some of the spring "kaboom" vids on you tube, you'll see why I prefer that. With 2 springs, the 2nd spring absorbs the shock of the first one when it breaks(and they all will someday). When you have 1 spring, well, stuff flies everywhere, lol.
When I did my friends, tho, I only used one because his door was so light(aluminum frame, fiberglass panels, about 70#) that the calculator could only do the math for 1 spring. I got the 2nd highest life cycle spring I could get according to the calculator. That spring should outlast me. ;)
That's awesome! I still have customers from years past that their springs are giving them more cycles than expected.
Do you recommend a specific torsion kit brand which includes the tube? I'm planning on buying 2 genie 6172 units. Doors are 7' x 8' each.
Hello. No, you can go with any torsion brand that applies to your 8x7 door. Just keep in mind that you want a spring that will properly balance the door.
I have 2 torsion springs for my two car garage door. The house was built in 2004 and I moved in 2014. I’ve never replaced the springs and I’m not sure if the previous owner replaced them. I use my garage door about once a day. In the worst case if they are the original springs from when the house was built (about 20 years ago) or if they were replaced before I moved in (about 10 years ago), should I proactively replace them before they break?
December 7, 2023
What size springs would you recommend I replace my broken single 250 x 2 x 30 to convert to a High cycle double spring setup? You mentioned a 218 x 1.3/4 x 31. What would that be if I wanted to keep the 2in diameter? Thanks
Hello! Great question! I would stick with the 1 3/4" diameter. The pair of .218 by 1.75 by 31" long springs should work great and offer at least close to 20K cycles.
Hi was wondering if I could pick your knowledge if I was to start a repair business after taking the online course what residential size springs should I have on hands thanks
Hello! Congratulations on your new endeavour! It will truly depend on the garage doors that are installed in your area. For example, in So California a pair of .207 by 25 wire springs are very common. I tend to carry higher cycle springs such as .218 by 31", 29", and 28". But from time to time a pair of .225 33" and 30"s will work on a number of insulated garage doors. It just depends on your area. Hope this helps.
Thank you very much I'm in ny upstate so most are insulated so ill probably go with the .225 I really appreciate the knowledge you share to help with my new business
Hi, I am converting from extension to torsion springs ,I weighed the door and it weighs lb. 130, if I install a spring rated for lb. 140 would that be a problem ?
Great question. You want to say closer to the 130 lbs. Springs rated for 140 lbs will offer too strong of a lift.
Hi, what happens when a garage door spring breaks? Does the garage door come crashing down? Thanks for answering. Best regards, Nancy
Hello. I can see that this topic is very important to you. The truth is it can, but it is rare. You will usually see or have signs from your garage door that the springs is broken. Mainly, the garage door won't open. Thus, if you have a broken spring your motor will usually have trouble lifting. If the door has trouble lifting. Then call a professional. I hope this helps.
I have extension springs. Is it worth changing to torsion? And if so about how much is a reasonable price to change from extension to torsion springs? I got quoted 1,200$ to change from my torque master extension system to a tensions spring system. Idk if that is over kill??
Hello. Thanks for sharing your experience. So I know some contractors in my area that offer half that cost for a conversion with a pair of springs that offer 10+ cycles. Additionally, I prefer torsion springs over extension springs any day.
Hi,
What torsion spring size is recommended on a 9x7, insulated, no windows, 120lbs garage door?
Hello. I would consider a .243 by 1.75 by 34 spring.
Hey! If I convert my 7x8 wooden clad garage door to a high lift, does my spring calculation change to the vertical lift vs the door height? So, let's say I am now lifting my door 8ft, so I calculate as if an 8ft door?
Hello! Thank you for the question. Yes you have to calculate for the high lift configuration. Do you know the weight of your wooden garage door?
@@sosgds Thanks for the response! The door weights 132 lbs. my shaft is at 109” and I’m looking to use dual springs
hi i have a heavy 30 yr old 8 x 7 wooden clad door that currently has a 243x29x 2" LH ,the door worked fine and was balanced well for last couple years ,but the 2 1/2yr old spring just broke .i have replaced the spring 5/6 times over the years .not sure of the door weight but is there a better ,heavier spring for this door .I just upgraded the 1/2 hp chamberlain chain drive opener for a 1 1/2 hp belt drive chamberlain opener that moves very quickly .would this have caused the breakage .What would the approximate cost be ? I APPRECIATE ANY HELP OR ADVICE,THANKS
Hello D Anthony! Thank you for the question. The motor would not have caused the spring to break. It's possible the springs was bad. Nevertheless, if you go a wire size up; you might get better cycle life. You can go with a 250 wire by 2 by 33 or 250 by 1 3/4" by 34-35". Hope this helps! Stay safe party person!
The 243x2x29 is rated at 39 in*lb/turn and 149 lb door. I would recommend weighing your door with a bathroom scale. Do this after releasing spring tension. Then you can determine the correct spring using an online calculator. Maybe your door is heavier than you think. Also if your door is 7 feet high, make sure you are winding the spring 28-31 quarter turns. If it is wound higher or lower than 28-31, this could affect the spring life cycle.
What would the cost difference be between and 2 spring 10,000 cycle setup vs 25,000 cycles
Hello Mr Rick. It will depend in the area you're located but the difference could be from $150 to $200 for higher cycle springs.
I have a question, what size springs would i need and would it be good to get double torsion for my wayne dalton 9100, ( i have videos of it on my channel if you wanna look at it). thanks!
Hello The Garage Guy! Great question! for your garage door I would suggest going with a pair of 207 wire with a 1 3/4" diameter and 28 or 20 inch length. Hope that helps!
@@sosgds Thanks! Would it be safe to have double torsion?
@@TheGarageGuy absolutely! You potentially get more cycles.
Hello Santiago.I have a 16’ x 7’ x 1 1/2” Insulated (vinyl on both sides) 4 panel door with no windows. In July of 2019 I replaced both springs because the left one snapped. Well the exact thing happened yesterday. Same spring. We do use this door like it’s our front door so it gets cycled about 25-30 times per day at least. In ‘19 I replaced the springs with what it had which was 225 x 2 x 24.5
I know that’s above average cycles but I thought I would have gotten more life that that. I ordered those springs from Amazon for about $180/pair. Two questions. Would it be better for me to go with a larger set of springs? And if so what size do you think would do the job? Thanks in advance. Glenn
One other question. How does spring length fit into the equation? Does it matter if I go with a pair that’s a couple inches longer because of availability? Or do I need to stick with what’s on there currently?
Hello! I believe you reached out through Instagram not too long ago. Was I able to answer your question there?
@@sosgds Yes Santiago, I got your response via Instagram. Thanks again.
@@sosgds Hello I now have the same questions as glennman. Can you answer them here?
My company does 80k cycles life time springs
That's fantastic. That's what you offer on all your doors?
my brother replaced his old delton with torsion spring but it broke just after a couple of years. high cycle isn't true! i noticed that the spring is way bigger than the tube. i am not sold on the high cycles here at all!
Hello. Do you know the model of Wayne Dalton your brother has?
have springs just gotten more expensive?
Hello again. Yes. On average about $100 to $200 difference.
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