I have a computer program I made to find the most common pair of characters, and combine them into a new character, and repeat. The most common pairs of letters in the first portion of the portmantout are [☺=es=es] [☻=er=er] [♥=in=in] [♦=ed=ed] [♣=♥g=ing] [♠=en=en] [•=at=at] [◘=al=al] [◙=☻s=ers] [♂=on=on].
The entire word did fit, and now the most common are [☺=es=es] [☻=in=in] [♥=er=er] [♦=ed=ed] [♣=☻g=ing] [♠=at=at] [•=sa=sa] [◘=en=en] [◙=on=on] [♂=ar=ar]
"In this animation I'm moving the words around so that the lines between them are shorter so that you can see some of the structure." Constant bitrate H.264: *N O*
Sadly, Google Translate cuts off after 5000 characters :( 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suckerpinch your welcome i thought you where one of those channels who quit and i aways try to say that plus i love your vids i really didn't think you would answer
+MrID36 Well of course, in the same way that all consonant's letters are pronounced with vowels and Y doesn't include Y's consonant sound, because WHO CARES ABOUT STANDARDS! Let's mispronounce the letter pairing of "GU" and make it a "QU" because SQREW YOUR LOGIC (intentionally misspelled)! Q is a letter now!
Many years ago, I worked at a place where we were brainstorming names for a subsidiary. I wrote a portmanteau generator in Python to help (just pairs of words, not extended chaining). I think I required a minimum 3-letter overlap, and a minimum of 2 non-overlapping letters in each word. IIRC, it yielded about 1500 portmanteaus, which was a reasonable number to read through and pick out the good ones.
Totally fascinating. I could see this type of algorithm being useful in marketing circles to come up with cool names for services such as Chairplanesthesia. Thanks for sharing, Tom.
Some of my favorite bits: "segregatedoutlivingapoop" "speedboatsacrificer" "yodlerspoofingeringsarcasm" "psychoanalyzingallopsychiatrist" "furiouslyenoverviolently" "symmetricallyamobloopsy"
@@luciferrtlm4156 why? disabled people care more about ableism than about being called something that could be offensive. if an offensive word means we are seen and respected, GO FOR IT. because what we need more than anything is access.
BIBIwood Hah, yes. It was sort of disappointing to see how that part finally turned out, since I actually wrote software to try to pack the word into a short video that would still be readable if you paused it. Oh, well. The word is on the web page if you want to see!
@@tiagotiagot I know this is a reply 1 year later to a reply to a comment that was 5 yrs old at the time, but I just wanted to say thanks for this tip! I recall that UA-cam used to do that for audio as well, you would get better sounding music if you turned it up to HD video quality lol. That is, if the uploader knew that and bothered to upload the lyric video in 1080p.
The video at the end showing your terminal was fine for me compression-wise, each letter was perfectly visible as it scrolled. It was the technicolour graph that caused me to experience a new colour thanks to gratuitous compression
suckerpinch What!? They need to expand or we will run out of domains! 37^255*810 possibilities are way to few! It's even less since the domain can't start or end with a hyphen. How about using 2^64 instead of 2^8 characters. That should work. I would pick Lord of the Rings as my domain. I mean like the content of whole book of course.
Christopher wootton I believe there is indeed a standard for unicode domain names, though it has some bad security issues so I think it isn't widely used (because there are codepoints that look exactly like Latin letters in other planes, which makes it easy to look like you are going to "citibank.com" but those i's aren't i's!)
My brother and I did something like this (but much shorter) when we were kids. We took turns adding to the end of our existing portman-[French for some number] and made it a portman-[French for that number plus one], saying the full thing each time. For example, we started with Flintstone, Stonehenge, and Enjoy. I forget who started, but let's say that I said "Flintstone", then Dan said "Flintstonehenge", and then I said "Flintstonehenjoy". Occasionally we used an entire phrase, just to make it longer. The last version that I can still remember today is: "Flintstonehenjoy to the world sereese's pieces of ate a pirate increase in my pantseyes of a potatomatopaystubbullwhipped creamery butturn on your heartlight speed ahead and shoulderstwhile away the hours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die harder with a vengeance demondays always get me downtown and country crock" That consists of: Flintstone-Stonehenge-Enjoy-Joy to the World-World Series-Reese's Pieces-Pieces of Eight-Ate a pie-Pirate-Rate increase-Crease in my pants-Pant size-Eyes of a potato-Tomato paste-Paystub-Stubble-Bullwhip-Whipped creamery butter-Turn on your heartlight-Light speed ahead-Head and shoulders-Erstwhile-While away the hours-Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die-Die Hard-Die Harder-Die Hard(er)* with a Vengeance-Vengeance demon-Mondays always get me down-Downtown-Town and country-Country Crock. (* - Technically, that should've been "Die Hard with a Vengeance", but we kept it anyway.)
It reminds me of a problem from combinatorics. In particular, looking for superpermutations. A superpermutation is the shortest string which contains every possible permutation of n letters up to some given length. For example, if you have "1", "0", "10", and "01" (two letters, words of length of one and two), then "010", "101", "1001", and "101001" are possible superpermutation because they contain each of the four desired strings. Some combinatorics people are interested in finding the shortest superpermutation for a given number of letters and length of word. It would be interesting to see if the techniques used to solve that problem might also be applied here--though you would need to filter from "all combinations of letter up to length n" to "all english words", and I'm not familiar enough with the orthodox approaches to finding superpermutations to know if this is even sensible.
Ha! Your idea for chairplanesthesia is similar to what I figure we might get to if we continue to be paranoid about security on planes. Everybody gets in, gets knocked out chemically, and gets strapped down. They could pack planes quite full of people, and they could 'guarantee safety'. Just wake up at your destination. The only flaw in this plan is that anaesthesia is not actually easy... reliably knocking people unconscious without harming (or killing) them is actually dreadfully difficult. Also your video gave me an idea... why not try to find portmanteaus our language "needs"? Use some machine learning to determine how often pairs of words are next to each each (or within a short distance) to find pairs which actually refer to a single thing or concept, then run through any possible portmanteaus (being a little more liberal than you were in this video so you could catch things like 'brogrammer') of their synonyms if the words themselves aren't combine-able... follow it up by checking how related those synonyms are (sometimes following synonyms can seriously alter the connotation) and check if the portmanteau created exists. If not, bingo, you have probably found a new word that would catch on in our language! You could even rank likelihood of adoption (probably) by ranking on how often the core concepts are talked about.
+Dustin Rodriguez Ha ha :) I think that someone out there made a portmanteau twitter bot that does something like what you said for things that people tweet. It was pretty rad! Also related is a paper I wrote a few years ago called "What words ought to exist?" which tries exactly the kind of thing you're talking about at the letter level. Maybe should do a video on that paper; it's one of my faves.
"It's kinda the opposite of the opposite of what you do when you're in high school and you need to make a paper a certain length." My high school papers were always measured by word count, and unfortunately, you've only got 1.
This is actually an interesting way to make passwords - by running some memorable words into each other, you can make dictionary-based attacks far less likely because they have to split somewhere to separate the words, and they don't (as far as I know) overlap their guess words. Maybe it's only a matter of time before those attacks start using portmanteaux as well... hopefully it's a really processor-heavy task though?
i realize this comment is 4 years old, but i can't find a record of this easily on google - could you give a link to that video? and more importantly, *can* you give a link to that video? because i fully understand that in the 4 years you may very well have forgotten what you even mean, which is understandable and in that case please just tell me and have a nice day
@@mathyland4632 lmao the flower dies in the video around 2 hours in, amazing that you still remember and the description seems to say “titin”, which is probably why i didn’t get a useful result from “tintan” like your comment says
The part that would make this NP-hard would be to try and find the *shortest* possible portmanteau. Then it just becomes the traveling salesman problem!
I actually covered the shortest common superstring problem for one of my programming classes, so I think it's really cool that you covered it. They use it for fixing breaks in dna sequences which I thought it was cool.
This is incredible, at first I was naively thinking that You would create portmanteau of around hundred words or so. Had to pause the video to stop my laughter as I heard it would have all the words in English. Thank God I didn't read the video title before watching.
The video is a setup for a punchline, and the punchline is the completion of the video. We spent all of this mental work... to create an unfathomably large word that.. that probably no one will ever even ATTEMPT to pronounce!
It's weird - I don't have that much interest in most of the things you do on the channel, and I wouldn't be able to bring myself to do the things you do, even if I had the knowledge since I see it as wasteful - yet hypocrisy kicks in as I find it all delightfully nerdy and enjoyable to see you indulging in your creations like a mad scientist - which I think might be called passion, and it seems to be rubbing off on me. It's honestly just pleasant and invigorating to be around if only for 8 minutes and 55 seconds.
Glad to see you're still doing things! I subscribed not thinking you'd post anything anymore, but I'm glad I was wrong. Very interesting and entertaining video.
This was super interesting! Man, you are really talented! Do whatever you want to do! If you don't feel like doing more games you don't have to! Even when you don't do game/nintendo related things you are doing very interesting things!
This was really interesting, even more for me, I guess because I'm studying linguistics and finding it very nice. Plus, your drawing skills are legit, 10 out of 10, keep 'em coming :)
An easier way (but arguably much less fun) to do this is to take the words in any order and add the connecting portmanteau between every word. The only downside is the word will be larger and almost every other word will be a repeat. good video :-)
Woah, I was worried this channel was dead when I found it, but you are still replying to comments! Awesome! I know when I first tried to make a UA-cam channel, I just never ended up _wanting_ to make videos, so my channel died. I hope that doesn't happen here, because you are indeed really smart. I know everybody likes you because of your Learnfun/Playfun videos, but I also appreciate these language type things. Plus, you are funny, as shown by the awesome reenactments of Playfun. XD I don't care much what you upload, but please don't give up on the channel! You're great!
+Zebo12345678 Thanks, I appreciate the encouragement :) I have a video in the works for SIGBOVIK 2016 on April 1, and would like to make many more videos -- it just takes a long time and there's so much to do! I'm glad you like them!
Saw you got mentioned in Vsause's new video. Your work is beyond interesting to an aspiring computer scientist like myself! You should teach programming!
I find it somehow beautiful, how the portmantout breaks the video compression. It's like an advanced moiree. Make the font green and let it scroll downwards -> Matrix NG :-)
I stopped the video at 8:50, chuckled about the word "cunnilingus" being suspiciously close to the end, went to the toilet, came back and almost had a heart attack because I thought that my PC has had some really rather fatal crash ...
you could decide how much overlap letters you use on each word to manipulate that rarity of some starting or ending letters. Instead of choosing the longest, you could chose the one starting with the most common letter.
I found this very enjoyable and interesting (even though I came to your channel looking for the nintendo AI stuff). Please keep on sharing your diverse interests and ideas! That airplane-anaesthetic, I would totally pay extra for that.
a similar problem also exists with numbers (and its much more rigorous) called superpermutations matt parker did a video on this a couple of months ago
It might interest you to know that this is the subject of a popular children's game in South Korea where you try to overlap the end of a word you are given with a new word as fast as possible. It's more concretely defined as words are made of syllabic units, not exactly letters, and they only match the first syllabic unit to the last.
UA-cam recommended this to me today, shortly after I’ve heard this word for the very first time irl. I swear my phone has to be listening to my conversations
That's a hell of a password generator you created there.
Have fun typing it in! :D
every... single... time... you need to log in
The only thing that sucks is that it only ever generates one password
AniMerrill at the end of the video he says it gives you a different weird each time
Entropy: high
I'm sure that this is what was intended when programming languages started implementing arbitrary length strings.
I have a computer program I made to find the most common pair of characters, and combine them into a new character, and repeat. The most common pairs of letters in the first portion of the portmantout are [☺=es=es]
[☻=er=er] [♥=in=in] [♦=ed=ed] [♣=♥g=ing] [♠=en=en] [•=at=at] [◘=al=al] [◙=☻s=ers] [♂=on=on].
The entire word did fit, and now the most common are [☺=es=es] [☻=in=in] [♥=er=er] [♦=ed=ed] [♣=☻g=ing] [♠=at=at] [•=sa=sa] [◘=en=en] [◙=on=on] [♂=ar=ar]
Certainly not to store sentences or paragraphs or books
"In this animation I'm moving the words around so that the lines between them are shorter so that you can see some of the structure."
Constant bitrate H.264: *N O*
surprisingly readable on 1080p
You really really really need to put this through a speech synthesizer
Sadly, Google Translate cuts off after 5000 characters :(
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Most text-to-speech algorithms give up after about 100 characters and just start saying the letters individually.
@@zionj104 So what you're really saying is that this is just another fun potential project
@@Vegas242 Yes
*pulls out 1982 Type and Tell for the Magnavox Odyssey*
That final word is a gold mine of portmanteaus and pretty helpful for coming up with new portmanteaus. One I thought of is interrupterodactyl
Knock knock!
Who's there?
Interrupterodactyl.
Interrupte--
uhh, whatever sound a pterodactyl makes
@@OrangeC7 SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Leaked Gen 10 Pokemon name
_"almost every word begins and ends with a letter"_
Wise words.
[citation needed]
The letter 1 doesn’t. Checkmate.
@@Maker0824letters aren't words
The combination of your programming, drawing, language and presentation skills make this a very entertaining watch. Nice work!
Yikak4 Aw thanks! :) And thank you for watching!
+suckerpinch pls upload more
+thegamingguy thanks for the encouragement :)
suckerpinch your welcome i thought you where one of those channels who quit and i aways try to say that plus i love your vids i really didn't think you would answer
+suckerpinch
Thanks for all the fonts, Douglas Adams Hand in particular :)
"Some word experts told me that almost every word begins and ends with a letter" XD
+samuel barky Don't you hate it when a sentence doesn't end how you octopus?
+samuel barky Just remember, the word, queue, has four silent letters.
+Rartrin Nope. Just like the word cue where the suffix -ue is pronounced /ju:/, the word queue contains three spoken letters /kju:/
+MrID36 Well of course, in the same way that all consonant's letters are pronounced with vowels and Y doesn't include Y's consonant sound, because WHO CARES ABOUT STANDARDS! Let's mispronounce the letter pairing of "GU" and make it a "QU" because SQREW YOUR LOGIC (intentionally misspelled)! Q is a letter now!
Rartrin Erm.....OK.
Many years ago, I worked at a place where we were brainstorming names for a subsidiary. I wrote a portmanteau generator in Python to help (just pairs of words, not extended chaining). I think I required a minimum 3-letter overlap, and a minimum of 2 non-overlapping letters in each word. IIRC, it yielded about 1500 portmanteaus, which was a reasonable number to read through and pick out the good ones.
can I see that list 👀
@@ohmhasmeaning7292same 👀
Totally fascinating. I could see this type of algorithm being useful in marketing circles to come up with cool names for services such as Chairplanesthesia. Thanks for sharing, Tom.
Some of my favorite bits:
"segregatedoutlivingapoop"
"speedboatsacrificer"
"yodlerspoofingeringsarcasm"
"psychoanalyzingallopsychiatrist"
"furiouslyenoverviolently"
"symmetricallyamobloopsy"
Rik Should I report for death threats (speedboat sacrificer)? :P
+Rik Don't you see? He's created a Tumblr user name generator!
Keith Hunter Bahahahahahaha
+Rik Sublimestone was also a good one.
I'm 4 years late, but "lesbianismokehouses"
I have a deaf nephew. I lovingly call him my "deafew".
theQiwiMan But how does he know you call him that?
+theQiwiMan that kinda sound offensive, bro.
+Nameguy Don't worry, he is deaf so he won't hear you calling him deaf.
I wonder if sign language has portmanteaus.
@@luciferrtlm4156 why? disabled people care more about ableism than about being called something that could be offensive. if an offensive word means we are seen and respected, GO FOR IT. because what we need more than anything is access.
You also found a way to make the UA-cam compression algorithm go nuts.
Two birds with one stone.
BIBIwood Hah, yes. It was sort of disappointing to see how that part finally turned out, since I actually wrote software to try to pack the word into a short video that would still be readable if you paused it. Oh, well. The word is on the web page if you want to see!
@@tom7 Try upscaling the video to the highest resolution UA-cam accepts; it uses a proportionally higher bitrate for higher resolutions.
@@tiagotiagot I know this is a reply 1 year later to a reply to a comment that was 5 yrs old at the time, but I just wanted to say thanks for this tip! I recall that UA-cam used to do that for audio as well, you would get better sounding music if you turned it up to HD video quality lol. That is, if the uploader knew that and bothered to upload the lyric video in 1080p.
The video at the end showing your terminal was fine for me compression-wise, each letter was perfectly visible as it scrolled.
It was the technicolour graph that caused me to experience a new colour thanks to gratuitous compression
how has this not become a page on Wikipedia with how much they love mentioning when a word is a portmanteau for six years
I hope you copyrighted the final word. Register the domain while you can!
Sadly, domains can't be longer than 255 characters. Ridiculous!
suckerpinch What!? They need to expand or we will run out of domains! 37^255*810 possibilities are way to few! It's even less since the domain can't start or end with a hyphen. How about using 2^64 instead of 2^8 characters. That should work. I would pick Lord of the Rings as my domain. I mean like the content of whole book of course.
We could expand domain names to use all Unicode characters, then we could have things like （≧∇≦）.com
Or even 囧rzヽ(`Д´)ﾉ ┻━┻.com
Christopher wootton I believe there is indeed a standard for unicode domain names, though it has some bad security issues so I think it isn't widely used (because there are codepoints that look exactly like Latin letters in other planes, which makes it easy to look like you are going to "citibank.com" but those i's aren't i's!)
Andreas Dumonteix It's not unicode. It's ASCII.
Loved perusing your final result. 'cunnilingusaweirdlyetcomplimentskin'made it onto the second-last line.
My brother and I did something like this (but much shorter) when we were kids. We took turns adding to the end of our existing portman-[French for some number] and made it a portman-[French for that number plus one], saying the full thing each time.
For example, we started with Flintstone, Stonehenge, and Enjoy. I forget who started, but let's say that I said "Flintstone", then Dan said "Flintstonehenge", and then I said "Flintstonehenjoy". Occasionally we used an entire phrase, just to make it longer.
The last version that I can still remember today is:
"Flintstonehenjoy to the world sereese's pieces of ate a pirate increase in my pantseyes of a potatomatopaystubbullwhipped creamery butturn on your heartlight speed ahead and shoulderstwhile away the hours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die harder with a vengeance demondays always get me downtown and country crock"
That consists of:
Flintstone-Stonehenge-Enjoy-Joy to the World-World Series-Reese's Pieces-Pieces of Eight-Ate a pie-Pirate-Rate increase-Crease in my pants-Pant size-Eyes of a potato-Tomato paste-Paystub-Stubble-Bullwhip-Whipped creamery butter-Turn on your heartlight-Light speed ahead-Head and shoulders-Erstwhile-While away the hours-Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die-Die Hard-Die Harder-Die Hard(er)* with a Vengeance-Vengeance demon-Mondays always get me down-Downtown-Town and country-Country Crock.
(* - Technically, that should've been "Die Hard with a Vengeance", but we kept it anyway.)
You can use this to simulate what English sounds like to foreigners.
Now we just need a savant to speak this complete word for a couple of days. No eating or sleeping allowed.
You could try getting a Text-To-Speech thingy to read it out, I spose...
Toby Walker This is now necessary
Mr.Beast?
Mr. Beast
It's not fit for speaking, since it's purely lexical. There's not a definitive way to pronounce it.
This is one of the best things I have ever seen on UA-cam. You're a real coologist.
A Level Revision Thanks very much! :)
You're pretty much my inspiration for majoring in computer science. Make more videos, Tom!
You should have a text to speach program read it and just upload that as a seperate video
Speach
This was actually one of the cooler things I've seen in awhile. I'd love seeing more stuff like this!
Cyrus AOT Great, thank you :)
suckerpinch i love seeing all the coding tricks you stuff youv done (tho a better nintendo program is always cool too) keep up the good work
This video is the most casual display of an extreme amount of programming effort
By ending with parodic you achieved the greatest feat of mankind ever.
“Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
-Dr. Ian Malcolm
It reminds me of a problem from combinatorics. In particular, looking for superpermutations.
A superpermutation is the shortest string which contains every possible permutation of n letters up to some given length. For example, if you have "1", "0", "10", and "01" (two letters, words of length of one and two), then "010", "101", "1001", and "101001" are possible superpermutation because they contain each of the four desired strings.
Some combinatorics people are interested in finding the shortest superpermutation for a given number of letters and length of word. It would be interesting to see if the techniques used to solve that problem might also be applied here--though you would need to filter from "all combinations of letter up to length n" to "all english words", and I'm not familiar enough with the orthodox approaches to finding superpermutations to know if this is even sensible.
Ah yes, the "Haruhi watch order" problem.
i can't believe you said "superpermutation" on a video about portmanteau's
Ha! Your idea for chairplanesthesia is similar to what I figure we might get to if we continue to be paranoid about security on planes. Everybody gets in, gets knocked out chemically, and gets strapped down. They could pack planes quite full of people, and they could 'guarantee safety'. Just wake up at your destination. The only flaw in this plan is that anaesthesia is not actually easy... reliably knocking people unconscious without harming (or killing) them is actually dreadfully difficult.
Also your video gave me an idea... why not try to find portmanteaus our language "needs"? Use some machine learning to determine how often pairs of words are next to each each (or within a short distance) to find pairs which actually refer to a single thing or concept, then run through any possible portmanteaus (being a little more liberal than you were in this video so you could catch things like 'brogrammer') of their synonyms if the words themselves aren't combine-able... follow it up by checking how related those synonyms are (sometimes following synonyms can seriously alter the connotation) and check if the portmanteau created exists. If not, bingo, you have probably found a new word that would catch on in our language! You could even rank likelihood of adoption (probably) by ranking on how often the core concepts are talked about.
+Dustin Rodriguez Ha ha :) I think that someone out there made a portmanteau twitter bot that does something like what you said for things that people tweet. It was pretty rad! Also related is a paper I wrote a few years ago called "What words ought to exist?" which tries exactly the kind of thing you're talking about at the letter level. Maybe should do a video on that paper; it's one of my faves.
Nice! I'd certainly enjoy such a video myself.
"What words ought to exist?"
radar.spacebar.org/f/a/weblog/comment/1/1067
anesthesia is really expensive though
@@tom7 Tomurphy the 7th, it's you? My favourite Programmonarch.
Nativemuparatyphoidiparodic appears at the end of this monster portmanteau, and it is now my favorite adjective (?)
I'm incredibly impressed this wasn't clickbait, you legit just got out here and DID this for real
"It's kinda the opposite of the opposite of what you do when you're in high school and you need to make a paper a certain length." My high school papers were always measured by word count, and unfortunately, you've only got 1.
This is actually an interesting way to make passwords - by running some memorable words into each other, you can make dictionary-based attacks far less likely because they have to split somewhere to separate the words, and they don't (as far as I know) overlap their guess words. Maybe it's only a matter of time before those attacks start using portmanteaux as well... hopefully it's a really processor-heavy task though?
We've got to get that guy who said the full scientific name of tintan to say the whole portmanteau
i realize this comment is 4 years old, but i can't find a record of this easily on google - could you give a link to that video? and more importantly, *can* you give a link to that video? because i fully understand that in the 4 years you may very well have forgotten what you even mean, which is understandable and in that case please just tell me and have a nice day
@@sodiboo haha yeah I found it: ua-cam.com/video/GZ-fgWXPOBY/v-deo.html
Somehow I still remember this 4 years later
@@mathyland4632 lmao the flower dies in the video around 2 hours in, amazing that you still remember and the description seems to say “titin”, which is probably why i didn’t get a useful result from “tintan” like your comment says
@@sodiboo oh yeah looks like I misspelled it. His facial hair also grows throughout the video.
I can't believe this masterpiece of a video only now hit 100,000
The part that would make this NP-hard would be to try and find the *shortest* possible portmanteau. Then it just becomes the traveling salesman problem!
You can both write programs and draw, you are like a unicorn!
The amount of "zinga" in the word is remarkable
bazinga
I can't express how much I loved this. :) Maybe there'll be a portmanteau for it...
I actually covered the shortest common superstring problem for one of my programming classes, so I think it's really cool that you covered it. They use it for fixing breaks in dna sequences which I thought it was cool.
Of course I read mom! In fact today I read every single word in the English Language!
This is incredible, at first I was naively thinking that You would create portmanteau of around hundred words or so. Had to pause the video to stop my laughter as I heard it would have all the words in English. Thank God I didn't read the video title before watching.
j00tt Impressive spoiler-avoiding skills! :)
The video is a setup for a punchline, and the punchline is the completion of the video. We spent all of this mental work... to create an unfathomably large word that.. that probably no one will ever even ATTEMPT to pronounce!
It's weird - I don't have that much interest in most of the things you do on the channel, and I wouldn't be able to bring myself to do the things you do, even if I had the knowledge since I see it as wasteful - yet hypocrisy kicks in as I find it all delightfully nerdy and enjoyable to see you indulging in your creations like a mad scientist - which I think might be called passion, and it seems to be rubbing off on me. It's honestly just pleasant and invigorating to be around if only for 8 minutes and 55 seconds.
Make a video of a TTS reading it.
MS Sam or MacTalk, its all good.
this dude really had the bravery to include the hard r n word in the portmantout, mad lad!
the German word for portmanteau is "Kofferwort", which directly translates to "suitcase word", like many words being stuffed into a suitcase :D
I like how Portmanteau is the first word in your portmantout
Wasn't sure why I was subscribed to this channel when I clicked the video, but I'm pleasantly surprised!
parmsib Glad to hear it and I hope to recreate that feeling again in the future! :)
They're actually is a word that begins with T and ends with Q. It's "tranq" and it's very useful in Scrabble.
amazing stuff. this is by far the most interesting programming content i have seen on youtube. this is the motivation i needed to get started again!
Glad to see you're still doing things! I subscribed not thinking you'd post anything anymore, but I'm glad I was wrong. Very interesting and entertaining video.
This was super interesting! Man, you are really talented!
Do whatever you want to do! If you don't feel like doing more games you don't have to!
Even when you don't do game/nintendo related things you are doing very interesting things!
***** Aw thank you :) I do love the video games too, and continue to pound my head against that!
This was genuinely one of the most interesting lectures I've ever heard in my life, thanks recommended! (and thanks, suckerpinch!)
This was really interesting, even more for me, I guess because I'm studying linguistics and finding it very nice. Plus, your drawing skills are legit, 10 out of 10, keep 'em coming :)
mamesushi136 (: Thank you very much!
An easier way (but arguably much less fun) to do this is to take the words in any order and add the connecting portmanteau between every word. The only downside is the word will be larger and almost every other word will be a repeat. good video :-)
Woah, I was worried this channel was dead when I found it, but you are still replying to comments! Awesome! I know when I first tried to make a UA-cam channel, I just never ended up _wanting_ to make videos, so my channel died. I hope that doesn't happen here, because you are indeed really smart. I know everybody likes you because of your Learnfun/Playfun videos, but I also appreciate these language type things. Plus, you are funny, as shown by the awesome reenactments of Playfun. XD
I don't care much what you upload, but please don't give up on the channel! You're great!
+Zebo12345678 Thanks, I appreciate the encouragement :) I have a video in the works for SIGBOVIK 2016 on April 1, and would like to make many more videos -- it just takes a long time and there's so much to do! I'm glad you like them!
I love the way your videos are miked.
the word "spikes" is at 8:15, near the bottom close to the middle, a tiny little bit to the left
My jaw dropped, I held it on, then I started watching the video, and... wow. Amazing. Just. Yeah.
Saw you got mentioned in Vsause's new video. Your work is beyond interesting to an aspiring computer scientist like myself! You should teach programming!
I find it somehow beautiful, how the portmantout breaks the video compression. It's like an advanced moiree.
Make the font green and let it scroll downwards -> Matrix NG :-)
Added to my recommended and totally appreciate the time you spent on this!
This is so awesome. This is such an incredible pet problem. Brilliant idea
Wow!....that was the coolest thing I've ever seen TBH.....i am truly amazing.... really appreciate ur hardwork....
What an impressivideo!
Nicholas Braden You chopped the E at the end of impressive, invalid portmanteau
+Nameguy It's a valid portmanteau but it's not a valid portmantout
+Nameguy Portmanteaus are phonetic, like rhymes. The portmanteau is valid.
This channel makes me feel so dumb.
It's great.
Lol, using your power and knowledge on seemingly random and useless things. I love it
NugenProductions Don't worry, I also do useful stuff for 75% of the week. :)
You're a genius I love your videos. I am actually amazed right now.
+Tyler Brennan (: thanks!
CTRL + C; CTRL + V life
This video should get a lot more views! We need more NES playfun/learnfun videos please! More cool videos please!
i never knew i had a fondness for wordplay! subbed!
I stopped the video at 8:50, chuckled about the word "cunnilingus" being suspiciously close to the end, went to the toilet, came back and almost had a heart attack because I thought that my PC has had some really rather fatal crash ...
That’s actually helpful, I wanted to Code a password strength checker which finds the longest overlap of known patterns to count „non weak“ positions
Had a hard time making out any of the words in the portmantout. But I did pick out 'cunnilingus' in the last full line quite easily.
In my opinion this deserves all the popularity of pewdiepie and stuff, actual effort put into a video!
Dr.Phresh Oh thanks! Yes, it is a lot of work to make videos like this, but it also feels like time well spent. :)
you could decide how much overlap letters you use on each word to manipulate that rarity of some starting or ending letters. Instead of choosing the longest, you could chose the one starting with the most common letter.
This is a superpermutation of all the English words
3:20 I can sense a massive programmatically generated graph coming, and if i know tom7 (I don't) he will definitely deliver on the graph.
I love that one of the cities the travelling salesman is visiting appears to be Konigsberg!
Holy crap, I can't believe how hard that final "well, here it is" made me laugh. I think this is my new favorite word.
I love that you made chairplanestesia public domain
I found this very enjoyable and interesting (even though I came to your channel looking for the nintendo AI stuff). Please keep on sharing your diverse interests and ideas! That airplane-anaesthetic, I would totally pay extra for that.
Noreal Mccoy Thanks! Please invent airplane anaesthesia!!
I love your videos,they are all entertaining and fun to watch,you are amazing!
slimeydragon991 (: Thank you for the nice compliment slimey!
But can you construct a portmantout that is also an executable x86 binary that is also a quine?
Request: N-hour long youtube video of a text-to-speech synthesizer reading the portmanteau at the end.
I thought I was the only person who ever had this idea
Never put it to practice but definitely experimented with the idea
a similar problem also exists with numbers (and its much more rigorous) called superpermutations
matt parker did a video on this a couple of months ago
Congratulations, you've invented しりとり!
Shiritori?
how does this not have a million hits?
Just wanna say, that was a really cute tapir
It might interest you to know that this is the subject of a popular children's game in South Korea where you try to overlap the end of a word you are given with a new word as fast as possible. It's more concretely defined as words are made of syllabic units, not exactly letters, and they only match the first syllabic unit to the last.
I hope someone takes a part of the portmantout and uses it for band name one day.
I'll be the first to buy a ticket to the "aussiesunstrokes" concert.
Does this count as a supermutation?
This just got recommended. Prepare for a huge influx of views.
UA-cam recommended this to me today, shortly after I’ve heard this word for the very first time irl. I swear my phone has to be listening to my conversations
You are correct.
Of course, the irony is that that could just be a bunch of nearly-random letters due to a fault in the programming and no-one would ever know.
Fantastic video! Liked also the reference to the song of the sea :)
Showed this to my French friend yesterday.
I think he spat out his baguette
Fascinating idea! The ultimate Syzygies!
This is pretty awesome. I personally prefer clever things like this or whatever over the same old NES stuff :)
one of my favourite english words is missed out
11/10 - IGN "Better than School"