It's so fun to watch :D You never know whether at any given moment you are going to be marvelling at his brilliance or facepalming hard enough to break your nose!
17:10 female voice, let me go, - jon: important female, Ahaa! part of the Formosa family 20:59 female voice, miss lim?. 22:30 text: miss lim, it is to late 22:52 on list: 23. Bau-Lan Lim , passanger, Formosa. - Jon has no clue about the female?
If I might offer two non-spoilery clarifications about this game's interface: "Unknown" are not additional passengers, but instead allow you to assign a rank, without assigning a name. Also: the game contains a glossary at the end of the book. Please look at it for the definitions of e.g. midshipmen. That doesn't refer to regular sailors just in the middle of the ship…
Jon when it says “unknown sailor” or whatever it doesn’t mean that there was a mysterious unknown sailor on the ship, it means that you can put in that you know their rank but not their name.
Get more likes on this one. Also, can anyone tell me, is it worth playing it myself even though I've watched Jon play? Is there alternate things that happen in different playthroughs?
@@JeffreyHead1 There are three different endings, but they are based on how complete you get the book before you submit your report, not on what actually caused the deaths on the ship. I recommend that you stop watching at this point and play it yourself though - still tons of puzzling and discovery Jon hasn't done yet, so it's still a very fun deduction game for you if you like this kind of puzzling :)
I missed this myself when I played the game, and it screwed me over for a while but was actually a helpful thing to "ball park" certain individuals. Great game, some really unique puzzling and deducting I think.
I liked "Stop your cheating? Was he pretending to be sick?" meanwhile people are playing a CARD GAME RIGHT NEXT TO HIM. Also, on the ground outside one of the locked doors near the start is a key. presumably for that locked door
@@JeffreyHead1 You can't pick up any items in the game. The only way to open doors is to leave a soul imprint of the open door by entering a memory in which it's open.
I got this game for christmas and finished it recently, 23 hours cumulatively, one of the best detective games ever. My only regret is that Lucas Pope has said he probably won't make another game like it.
@@ledzeppelin27 In his first dev blog about the game, in May 2014, he wrote "The lower bound for finishing this game is around 3 months but realistically I think it'll take me around half a year." The game came out in October 2018.
@@TheSurprisePizza Ah, the George RR Martin approach. Well, can't say it didn't work out. I bought this game after I saw this video and completed the game yesterday, and it's amazing. Wish I could find another like it or just erase my memory of it.
You did fine with the topmen Jon! That was some good deducing. Now, if you want a REAL challenge I dare you to try and identify the man in the butcher's apron managing the butchery of a cow or the guy who always seems to be holding the ship's wheel for some reason!
Son of a! I've played this game twice and BOTH times I had problems figuring out exactly what happened to the guy who was the first death you see in Soldiers Of The Sea. And Jon just up and done that immediately after literally not being perceptive enough to see a guy named Syed in the crew list. Absolute madness, I love this series!
Two things, when it says unknown while you’re trying to name someone it’s so that you can assign someone a rank without knowing their name, ex: unknown topman. Second the journal has short descriptions of the various jobs on the ship like midshipman.
Topman isn't 'someone on the top deck', but one of the able seamen who works predominantly in the upper rigging. Midshipman is a young gentleman, taken on board to prepare for his lieutenancy after sufficient education and experience. He isn't usually stationed in the middle of the ship, but is one of the petty officers
as someone who does not have any naval experience or knowledge of ship's ranks, it makes sense to me... It would be extremely helpful if you would actually provide some information instead of just criticizing/despairing.
@@J624 Every term you need to know is in the glossary at the back of the book, including all ranks and positions. It's on Jon for not checking it when he comes across something he doesn't know the meaning of.
Jon, important note: There are no "unknown" people on the list; see the numbering next to the names. The "unknown" options are, as far as I understand it, so you can set a character to be an "unknown midshipman" if you happen to know he's a midshipman, but are unsure of his name as of yet.
Lukas Pope is a genius, this game is an absolute masterpiece. I had to brute force some deductions when I played it and now that I see your gameplay I notice a lot of things I haven't before.
Before watching I'm going to guess Jon has completely forgotten the plot and characters after all this time. Still, glad to see the return of the return.
Useful tip: When the game confirms a set of three names you can go back through the journal and know that any ones you have complete that weren’t confirmed are wrong.
The Portuguese named the island itself Formosa (modern day Taiwan), so I imagine the Europeans called the island that regardless of the nation that ruled it?
Jon just a couple hints, when a face is blurry, you cant ID them in any way. When it clears up, you can either by their accent or by who they're around in pictures/while sleeping or where on the ship you find them. Also when you're reading the transcripts, the dialogue with the X next to it is the person who died.
There are a couple of people you can ID right off the bat before they're unblurred. The helmsman standing at the helm in the drawing, the topman with New Guinean tattoos, the only Frenchman on board is wearing a typical French navy marinière, the artist is the only one not pictured, the bosun carries around a bosun's whistle. There are also probably some additional very obscure things I missed.
I feel like in a world where demons riding quill-flinging giant crabs might crawl out of the sea (?! crabs aren't known for their ability to swim...) people would have the sense to stay home.
SPOILERS: All the creatures came with the cursed shell the Formosans brought in the big box. I think we can assume that this is not how sea travel normally goes.
Ah excellent. Good to see this return, and this time the delay means I have since picked up the game on the holiday and played through it, so I don't even have to worry about spoilers. But please Jon, realize that "Unknown " is a placeholder that you can use when you have figured out what people do on the ship (like marking all your Topmen friends who you don't know the name of)
Two non-spoilery things: -If you press the Open Journal button while zoomed in on a face, it brings you to their page on the drawings. Super helpful. -The "Unknown Topman", "Unknown Midshipman" etc. aren't people on the ship, they're just there to help you pre-emptively assign people ranks. E.g. if you know someone is a Topman, but not *which* topman, you can call them an unknown topman.
Jon the unknown tag is simply for when you know what type of crewman a person was but you don't know the name. It is to help you identify crew type and who they are in other scenes rather than being an actual person.
Also you are right on with the people talking to others in their own language! The scene with the first death from the illness, there are multiple people speaking to each other in Russian, gambling I think.
I feel like it needs to be said that the "Uknowns" in the name selecting page don't refer to actual people, but serve as placeholders if one suspects that kind of person did something. Other than that, I'm pleasantly surprised by Jon's perception! What an incredible series.
What an utterly frustrating watch lol, so many obvious things just ignored, and yet you identified one of the hardest people in the game (Bosun's Mate) almost immediately
34:50 The orlop deck is at the water line but also full of stuff, so there is a corridor along the wall to give carpenters easy access in case of a leak.
You can ID someone before their point of death by going to the pictures in the journal and selecting the person there. Also, you can quickly reach there by opening the journal whilst focused on someone's face (their location in a picture shows up in tha background)
Upload more of this Jon I said I hated you but the return of obra dinn Is one of my favourite games and it is so good to have this massive intertwined story between a couple of people that you can't seem to figure out but then you find one bit of evidence that completely changes everything and puts all the pieces into place perfectly it so satisfying so please upload more Jon or I'll hate you forever
As a tip: you can use the Unknown Topman (among other rankings) to mark a persons job, on the chance you might learn their ethnicity later to help with your deductions
Jon, just so you know, in ambiguous situations like the dude who died on top of the spider-crab, the game is lenient. So long as you get one of the likely causes of death, it'll accept it. E.g. that poor dude was both spiked and on fire - the game will accept either conclusion.
Another important thing is that it's easy to get caught up in the whole, solving puzzles bit and forget what your actual *role* here is. In that you're here to determine what happened for the purposes of an insurance company Sometimes what you pick as the murder method, like the guy who could have been spiked, or shot, affects the ending a little. I found it a bit annoying that things got locked in place, as I'd have gone back and changed some if I'd have known, like the hanged guy
@@FluffyDragon Any insurance company worth it's salt would file Eldritch Spider-crabs as "Acts of the Old Gods" and not issue a payment, since the policy doesn't cover that.
@@SodlidDesu Oh is worse than that, it's not that the payments don't get issued.. it's that they'll *fine* the family of the people who did the murders, or take away medals, or other varied stuff.. been a while, forget specifics. Even if they were completely accidental, or blah potentially. I felt bad about it in the end
They're not photos Jon, they're *_sketches!_* The artist himself is sitting on a chair behind the Formosans in that memory, sketching that very scene you use to identify crew members in the book. You already I.D'd him in the previous video, he was squeezed to death by the Kraken _(the very first person killed in 'The Doom')_ on the bow of the ship.
Oh, a nice treat on Friday morning! I bought the game after your first video. Still got a headache from the graphics and camera, but I finished the game. It's also much easier to watch with the various cuts, instead of walking towards the scene exits every time! But what will I pester you about in the PATREONCASTS now?
Jon - tips: - Look at the hammocks themselves - 'Unknown rank' etc labels what they are but without a name. Eg. Mark all topmen and you can identify later. - You already have the female Formosan's name. - Go back to the Syed scene, you missed things.
You can tell that Jon has so much on his plate, in that it took him two months to get back to this. Maybe we shouldn’t demand so much of him. Do as much as you want to, Jon, but if you ever want to drop anything, that’s fine by me. I’ll be sad, if it was something I liked, but not upset at ‘you’. -Also, where the heck is Fallout 4 YOLO?...
I actually just finished up most of the games chapters (other than the one locked off). At about half to two thirds of the crew properly identified, so itll be nice seeing Jon struggle through with -100 perception.
How does this dithering work? Anyone know how to run an image through a filter for this effect, or do you need to use 3D renders for it to work at all?
@@TheGrinningViking Yeah I found the pages. Looks like the 3D modeler in a Baysien curve for the perspective dithering is the big trick, but I'm now curious if I can make an engine for canvas drawing of this style. I want it so badly ahhh
A bit of advice if youd didn't know already. Some people can die from different reasons, such as the guy who was shot by the krakken could also be said as to have been shot by the person who lit the fuse. Sorry if my grammar is a bit bad.
Honestly, stereotyping is basically the ONLY way to identify some of these folks. Of course, if you don't know the stereotypes... (New Guinea tattoo guy stumped me so hard!)
@@Msatthew Apparently they're really distinctive to anyone familiar with the culture. What's sad is that I SHOULD recognise them. I'm Australian, New Guinea is just north of us. Granted, I'm not living in the tropics, but still! Not that far away!
Jon to help you. In the gambling/illness scene you see a lot of hammocks. These hammocks have numbers. Crew manifest numbers. Use these to identify hard to guess crew.
Oh that's what the numbers mean. When I played the game I noticed the numbers but I never made the connection to the crew manifest. That would have made some people so much easier to figure out.
Here's some advice, you can identify people based off of the shoes they wear and the hammocks they sleep in, I got around 9 people identified with that knowledge.
So happy you're finishing games now! Love this game, it's going to be great seeing you figure this out! This will surely be good for your perception... Right?
Funny, I made the same mistake about the tattooed guy being Charles miner. You figured out that the people of the same rank grouped together/wore the same clothes way faster, though.
First, this game wants you to look for details (ie. shoes, tattoos, do they wear shorts or pants, rings indicated married status, etc.). Second, why does no one notice the numbers on the hammocks in Syed's death scene? Third, relationships between crew members can hive hints to rank. If they talk as equals they are probably the same rank. People of the same rank and nationality tend to hangout together. Fourth, uniforms matter, and it's more than just hats that indicate rank.
The Unknowns that show up only when you try to put a name to a picture are there so that you can say "I know this guy is a topman, but not which of the topmen it is."
*Looks through half the crew list*
"There's no-one named Syed"
*Doesn't look through the rest of the crew list*
Jon flipflops between brilliance and obliviousness on a minute by minute basis.
Sometimes he wears glasses for +1 perception. Most of the time he loses them though, due to his permanent perception debuff.
It's so fun to watch :D You never know whether at any given moment you are going to be marvelling at his brilliance or facepalming hard enough to break your nose!
A hand's breadth from becoming unwound!
His deduction skills are hilarious
"Stop your cheating, so stop pretending to be dead..." said Jon about a conversation in a room with people playing cards...
This was said in an entirely different language
@@someguy5841 also this
THANK YOU
Game: "Miss Lim".
Jon: "I don't know, inside this dialect, what names are male versus female".
Victim, in heavy accent: "Ah, hello signor Nichols".
Jon: "Hmmmmm, the victim might be Italian 🤔🤔🤔🤔 ..maaaybe."
17:10 female voice, let me go, - jon: important female, Ahaa! part of the Formosa family
20:59 female voice, miss lim?.
22:30 text: miss lim, it is to late
22:52 on list: 23. Bau-Lan Lim , passanger, Formosa.
- Jon has no clue about the female?
If I might offer two non-spoilery clarifications about this game's interface: "Unknown" are not additional passengers, but instead allow you to assign a rank, without assigning a name. Also: the game contains a glossary at the end of the book. Please look at it for the definitions of e.g. midshipmen. That doesn't refer to regular sailors just in the middle of the ship…
Sadly he knew about the glossary, but much have forgotten about it
Jon when it says “unknown sailor” or whatever it doesn’t mean that there was a mysterious unknown sailor on the ship, it means that you can put in that you know their rank but not their name.
Incredibly helpful for placing the topmen as their rank and see where else they pop up. (Something you were thinking of doing off-hand)
Get more likes on this one. Also, can anyone tell me, is it worth playing it myself even though I've watched Jon play? Is there alternate things that happen in different playthroughs?
@@JeffreyHead1 There are three different endings, but they are based on how complete you get the book before you submit your report, not on what actually caused the deaths on the ship. I recommend that you stop watching at this point and play it yourself though - still tons of puzzling and discovery Jon hasn't done yet, so it's still a very fun deduction game for you if you like this kind of puzzling :)
I missed this myself when I played the game, and it screwed me over for a while but was actually a helpful thing to "ball park" certain individuals. Great game, some really unique puzzling and deducting I think.
It took me so long to realize that, I felt like an idiot
Jon: "There's about 60 people."
Also Jon: "Syed doesn't appear to be here after checking the first 30 people."
Oh, it's gonna be a fun series!
I liked "Stop your cheating? Was he pretending to be sick?" meanwhile people are playing a CARD GAME RIGHT NEXT TO HIM. Also, on the ground outside one of the locked doors near the start is a key. presumably for that locked door
It really make you so in the edge as jon scroll through the name list as if he was missing syed's name on purpose
@@JeffreyHead1 You can't pick up any items in the game. The only way to open doors is to leave a soul imprint of the open door by entering a memory in which it's open.
Jon. A midshipman is a naval officer who doesn’t have a rank yet. It isn’t somebody who’s literally on the middle of the ship.
He might be though.
also historically most of them were very young some even being as young as 12
Look at the map. He literally is.
Normal sailors have hammocks in the front, officers have cabins in the back.
I got this game for christmas and finished it recently, 23 hours cumulatively, one of the best detective games ever. My only regret is that Lucas Pope has said he probably won't make another game like it.
It must have been a crazy amount of work
@@ledzeppelin27 In his first dev blog about the game, in May 2014, he wrote "The lower bound for finishing this game is around 3 months but realistically I think it'll take me around half a year." The game came out in October 2018.
@@TheSurprisePizza Ah, the George RR Martin approach. Well, can't say it didn't work out. I bought this game after I saw this video and completed the game yesterday, and it's amazing. Wish I could find another like it or just erase my memory of it.
You did fine with the topmen Jon! That was some good deducing. Now, if you want a REAL challenge I dare you to try and identify the man in the butcher's apron managing the butchery of a cow or the guy who always seems to be holding the ship's wheel for some reason!
Please finish this series. I loved this game and want to see you deduce your way through the rest of it
"It's already done for, Nick" becomes "It's already done for Nick". Amazing how much difference proper punctuation can make.
Jon: "Unless someone was saying that about the cow that wasn't about the cow"
This is a perfect example of deductive reasoning!
Son of a! I've played this game twice and BOTH times I had problems figuring out exactly what happened to the guy who was the first death you see in Soldiers Of The Sea. And Jon just up and done that immediately after literally not being perceptive enough to see a guy named Syed in the crew list. Absolute madness, I love this series!
Two things, when it says unknown while you’re trying to name someone it’s so that you can assign someone a rank without knowing their name, ex: unknown topman. Second the journal has short descriptions of the various jobs on the ship like midshipman.
Topman isn't 'someone on the top deck', but one of the able seamen who works predominantly in the upper rigging.
Midshipman is a young gentleman, taken on board to prepare for his lieutenancy after sufficient education and experience. He isn't usually stationed in the middle of the ship, but is one of the petty officers
"of no particular rank" "he's a midshipman... this is roughly the middle of the ship" oh jon
If you had no idea, what would your guess had been?
as someone who does not have any naval experience or knowledge of ship's ranks, it makes sense to me... It would be extremely helpful if you would actually provide some information instead of just criticizing/despairing.
@@5Andysalive It's not like there's a glossary in the back of the book for this kind of thing, that would just be silly.
@@J624 Every term you need to know is in the glossary at the back of the book, including all ranks and positions. It's on Jon for not checking it when he comes across something he doesn't know the meaning of.
Well the topmen are at the top of the ship, surely the midshipmen are in the middle?
Jon, important note: There are no "unknown" people on the list; see the numbering next to the names. The "unknown" options are, as far as I understand it, so you can set a character to be an "unknown midshipman" if you happen to know he's a midshipman, but are unsure of his name as of yet.
Jon, while looking at an unconscious man with a club on the ground next to him: "This man was clearly stabbed!"
What is a club but a really dull sword?
Also a man he literally just saw being killed by firing squad.
Lukas Pope is a genius, this game is an absolute masterpiece. I had to brute force some deductions when I played it and now that I see your gameplay I notice a lot of things I haven't before.
Was dearly hoping this would come back.
Before watching I'm going to guess Jon has completely forgotten the plot and characters after all this time.
Still, glad to see the return of the return.
Hopefully not - I did go back and remind myself with my own video!
Return Squared
Useful tip: When the game confirms a set of three names you can go back through the journal and know that any ones you have complete that weren’t confirmed are wrong.
Like the one Claire "figured out".. the.. "Scot".
YES Loved the first part of this, and completely missed it as a game last year, but finally it's back
Someone doing butchery, like I don't know, a BUTCHER!
EvilLamp6 what no that can’t be right that would make too much sense
I love that out of every single Asian nation for a royal family they went with Formosa.
The Republic that barely survived a single year.
I think this game explains why they failed to survive! They were kidnapped (or something!) :-)
The Portuguese named the island itself Formosa (modern day Taiwan), so I imagine the Europeans called the island that regardless of the nation that ruled it?
Key members of the royal family dieing at sea could have contributed to the republics collapse.
I mean
If it's a royal family odds are good that we're not talking about a republic
Is jon aware he can in fact put a name to the face without a moment of death? He could have done that make charlie easier to follow
He figured it out eventually.
I'm so glad this is back! You made me buy and finish the game with the first video, so seeing you figure it out will be so great
Oh I REALLY can’t wait for the next part. I love listening to Jon puzzle through this, even when he’s oblivious or outright wrong
Jon just a couple hints, when a face is blurry, you cant ID them in any way. When it clears up, you can either by their accent or by who they're around in pictures/while sleeping or where on the ship you find them. Also when you're reading the transcripts, the dialogue with the X next to it is the person who died.
There are a couple of people you can ID right off the bat before they're unblurred. The helmsman standing at the helm in the drawing, the topman with New Guinean tattoos, the only Frenchman on board is wearing a typical French navy marinière, the artist is the only one not pictured, the bosun carries around a bosun's whistle. There are also probably some additional very obscure things I missed.
The mates as well when you have 3 of 4 of them already ID'd but the one left won't be unblurred by the game until later...
I feel like in a world where demons riding quill-flinging giant crabs might crawl out of the sea (?! crabs aren't known for their ability to swim...) people would have the sense to stay home.
Having finished the game I can say giant crab driders are not something you expect to see in this world.
SPOILERS:
All the creatures came with the cursed shell the Formosans brought in the big box. I think we can assume that this is not how sea travel normally goes.
Jon doesn't realise who the guy ( with a distinct accent) butchering the animal is.
Me: Well, this is going to be fun.
Ah excellent. Good to see this return, and this time the delay means I have since picked up the game on the holiday and played through it, so I don't even have to worry about spoilers.
But please Jon, realize that "Unknown " is a placeholder that you can use when you have figured out what people do on the ship (like marking all your Topmen friends who you don't know the name of)
Oh, heck yes! This game made me feel *_fantastic._* So glad you got to experience more of this amazing ship-detective game Jon.
Two non-spoilery things:
-If you press the Open Journal button while zoomed in on a face, it brings you to their page on the drawings. Super helpful.
-The "Unknown Topman", "Unknown Midshipman" etc. aren't people on the ship, they're just there to help you pre-emptively assign people ranks. E.g. if you know someone is a Topman, but not *which* topman, you can call them an unknown topman.
Charlie: __ 🤮
Jon: (41:12) _"Charlie is just chilling out over here."_
Mhm, yes Jon. He's chilling. Classic Charlie. Chilling his guts out.
Jon the unknown tag is simply for when you know what type of crewman a person was but you don't know the name. It is to help you identify crew type and who they are in other scenes rather than being an actual person.
Also you are right on with the people talking to others in their own language! The scene with the first death from the illness, there are multiple people speaking to each other in Russian, gambling I think.
All I want for Christmas is Jon returning to Obra Dinn.
I feel like it needs to be said that the "Uknowns" in the name selecting page don't refer to actual people, but serve as placeholders if one suspects that kind of person did something. Other than that, I'm pleasantly surprised by Jon's perception! What an incredible series.
So this is like unofficial co-op with Claire, then.
What an utterly frustrating watch lol, so many obvious things just ignored, and yet you identified one of the hardest people in the game (Bosun's Mate) almost immediately
The best detective game in my opinion. L.A. Noire is also great.
The body language thing in that was very badly executed though
It's 2022 now, time to do the cargo deck Jon
Jon: "uploads Part 2:
My brain: *CSI Miami theme*
34:50 The orlop deck is at the water line but also full of stuff, so there is a corridor along the wall to give carpenters easy access in case of a leak.
You can ID someone before their point of death by going to the pictures in the journal and selecting the person there. Also, you can quickly reach there by opening the journal whilst focused on someone's face (their location in a picture shows up in tha background)
I need a montage of Jon just saying "Big Damn Hero". Very uplifting.
Glad you returned to this game! Keep up the good work!
I am so surprised at how competent Jon is at this
Great to see you resume this one. Love to see you reason and deduct your way through the horrible fate of the ship.
Please upload more of this it's so fun watching you figure everything out😊
Wow, I thought this was never coming back
Upload more of this Jon I said I hated you but the return of obra dinn Is one of my favourite games and it is so good to have this massive intertwined story between a couple of people that you can't seem to figure out but then you find one bit of evidence that completely changes everything and puts all the pieces into place perfectly it so satisfying so please upload more Jon or I'll hate you forever
As a tip: you can use the Unknown Topman (among other rankings) to mark a persons job, on the chance you might learn their ethnicity later to help with your deductions
Jon, just so you know, in ambiguous situations like the dude who died on top of the spider-crab, the game is lenient. So long as you get one of the likely causes of death, it'll accept it. E.g. that poor dude was both spiked and on fire - the game will accept either conclusion.
Another important thing is that it's easy to get caught up in the whole, solving puzzles bit and forget what your actual *role* here is. In that you're here to determine what happened for the purposes of an insurance company
Sometimes what you pick as the murder method, like the guy who could have been spiked, or shot, affects the ending a little. I found it a bit annoying that things got locked in place, as I'd have gone back and changed some if I'd have known, like the hanged guy
@@FluffyDragon Any insurance company worth it's salt would file Eldritch Spider-crabs as "Acts of the Old Gods" and not issue a payment, since the policy doesn't cover that.
@@SodlidDesu Oh is worse than that, it's not that the payments don't get issued.. it's that they'll *fine* the family of the people who did the murders, or take away medals, or other varied stuff.. been a while, forget specifics. Even if they were completely accidental, or blah potentially. I felt bad about it in the end
Soooo, we're gonna get a full series for this right?
Right?
:/
:/ :/
FINALLY! I've been waiting so long!
Obra Dinn: The Topmen Incident
memory and perception poor jon
They're not photos Jon, they're *_sketches!_* The artist himself is sitting on a chair behind the Formosans in that memory, sketching that very scene you use to identify crew members in the book. You already I.D'd him in the previous video, he was squeezed to death by the Kraken _(the very first person killed in 'The Doom')_ on the bow of the ship.
Next Episode: Jon goes to the cargo deck and finds the ship is transporting hundreds of exotic venus flytraps back to Britain.
I can’t watch as I plan on playing it myself, But I’m glad Jon’s playing it again.
You're largely safe, just don't read the comments.
I love Jon but he's a very defective detective.
YES. been waiting for this
please don't take too long to release part 3 . We want to know more!
it's 2022 where is part 3 Jon!!!!
Welcome to 2023, we still do not know what happened to the poor souls of the Obra Dinn.
Wait, where's the 3rd part??
Oh, a nice treat on Friday morning! I bought the game after your first video. Still got a headache from the graphics and camera, but I finished the game. It's also much easier to watch with the various cuts, instead of walking towards the scene exits every time!
But what will I pester you about in the PATREONCASTS now?
Last time I was this early, Jon was killing Tunnelers in New Vegas.
Thank you so much for not doing a livestream. I (unfortunately) don't have enough time to watch them and I would've hated to have missed this.
You brought it back! Thank you, Jon!
Jon - tips:
- Look at the hammocks themselves
- 'Unknown rank' etc labels what they are but without a name. Eg. Mark all topmen and you can identify later.
- You already have the female Formosan's name.
- Go back to the Syed scene, you missed things.
Damn, Jon is so clever when it comes to deduction! :O
For Charlie, the game accepts spiked, burned, and even accidentaly sworded by the other midshipman.
"Scottish Accent" Jon that's very very German
If so, I'm 100% blaming Claire for that one.
Many A True Nerd as a Scotsman, just really not. Even highland Scottish isn’t like that. So you know, good try to Claire, but um, not quite.
@@ManyATrueNerd She is french is she? Remind me... where are you from?
The funny thing is that it's not a German accent either.
I think French people have been taught to forget everything about Germany. For...... reasons.
You can tell that Jon has so much on his plate, in that it took him two months to get back to this.
Maybe we shouldn’t demand so much of him.
Do as much as you want to, Jon, but if you ever want to drop anything, that’s fine by me. I’ll be sad, if it was something I liked, but not upset at ‘you’.
-Also, where the heck is Fallout 4 YOLO?...
Sef Era “we shouldn’t demand so much of him” also “where’s fallout 4 YOLO” kinda contradicting yourself
For the record this is just a joke
I actually just finished up most of the games chapters (other than the one locked off). At about half to two thirds of the crew properly identified, so itll be nice seeing Jon struggle through with -100 perception.
How does this dithering work?
Anyone know how to run an image through a filter for this effect, or do you need to use 3D renders for it to work at all?
I remember the game Dev had troubles getting it to work at all, so it's likely a bit complicated.
@@TheGrinningViking Yeah I found the pages. Looks like the 3D modeler in a Baysien curve for the perspective dithering is the big trick, but I'm now curious if I can make an engine for canvas drawing of this style. I want it so badly ahhh
37:30 THE GIANT ENEMY SPIDER
What the everloving fudge did these people do to tick off Poseidon? Odysseus had an easier trip than these guys!
Well, you see *spoiler*
been waiting so long for this
A bit of advice if youd didn't know already.
Some people can die from different reasons,
such as the guy who was shot by the krakken could also be said as to have been shot by the person who lit the fuse.
Sorry if my grammar is a bit bad.
Great way to revisit this game. Loved it.
Edit: About the stereotypes, we've all used them.
I failed to spot the clues about the Frenchman. Figured out who he was by a stereotype instead. I do feel slightly guilty about that :D
Honestly, stereotyping is basically the ONLY way to identify some of these folks.
Of course, if you don't know the stereotypes... (New Guinea tattoo guy stumped me so hard!)
@@Msatthew Apparently they're really distinctive to anyone familiar with the culture.
What's sad is that I SHOULD recognise them. I'm Australian, New Guinea is just north of us. Granted, I'm not living in the tropics, but still! Not that far away!
2020 is not the year of perception for Jon.
But that of hindsight it is.
Jon to help you. In the gambling/illness scene you see a lot of hammocks. These hammocks have numbers. Crew manifest numbers. Use these to identify hard to guess crew.
Oh that's what the numbers mean. When I played the game I noticed the numbers but I never made the connection to the crew manifest. That would have made some people so much easier to figure out.
It's 2022. Time for the next part :D
Seriously, this playthrough is brilliant, I want to see the rest.
Here's some advice, you can identify people based off of the shoes they wear and the hammocks they sleep in, I got around 9 people identified with that knowledge.
Will you being more of this Jon? Loving it. X
So happy you're finishing games now! Love this game, it's going to be great seeing you figure this out! This will surely be good for your perception... Right?
Can’t wait for part 3!
Damn it’s been 6 months, safe to say no part 3?
This game might be the coolest Sudoku Picross game ever.
Funny, I made the same mistake about the tattooed guy being Charles miner. You figured out that the people of the same rank grouped together/wore the same clothes way faster, though.
Title shoulda been Return of the Return of the Obra Dinn
Yes, finally more of this game, yes Jon, try to use your negative perception of about -100, go give it a good crack.
48:52 you can see Syed on the list
First, this game wants you to look for details (ie. shoes, tattoos, do they wear shorts or pants, rings indicated married status, etc.). Second, why does no one notice the numbers on the hammocks in Syed's death scene? Third, relationships between crew members can hive hints to rank. If they talk as equals they are probably the same rank. People of the same rank and nationality tend to hangout together. Fourth, uniforms matter, and it's more than just hats that indicate rank.
waited for this for so long, what a good friday morning.
The Unknowns that show up only when you try to put a name to a picture are there so that you can say "I know this guy is a topman, but not which of the topmen it is."