Because Toyotas are known to be very repairable, I look forward to see if Toyota EVs will be easily repairable or not. I love that Ford has taken this approach. ❤️
@@ugochukwueze496 most people getting EVs probably using them for a commute, ~50mi, and charging them at home overnight. different cars suit different needs
Love that Ford is taking this initiative, and hope that they actually make enough. There’s no good reason to destroy a healthy ecosystems of mechanics and garages, and it seems a lot more eco friendly to replace an engine instead of the whole body, system, seats, etc etc
They aren't taking initiative, they're conning idiots who believe marketing. Shops are already completely fed up with the constant months-long backorders for replacement parts that every other manufacturer seems to have no problem with.
Ford is responding to capitalistic demand. It's more profitable to offer parts and products to potential competitors in the e-space than it is to litigate copies. No one needs to bother copying a product if they can just buy it and use it in their own designs. Just wait when they get really moving on their BlueOval City battery productions and selling the sk inno cells.
ford seems to be pretty serious about making affordable, efficient cars recently and i’m excited to see how they evolve over the coming years. the maverick and f-150 lightning are great examples of this.
Part of the temptation for every manufacturer is on the software side of things. Where every single computer in your stuff is a black box of secrets that usually has no aftermarket alternative. Which gives them a lot of power over the product. They can make any alternatives they don't control incompatible with the stroke of a few keys and a forced update. We have seen it with Apple, Tesla, and John Deere. We have seen it with printers and many of the new "internet of things" products (Who wants DRM for their toaster or light switch?). Heck even McDonalds ice cream machines breakdown mostly due to software BS. Software being used to take control away from the consumer is a growing trend. Especially since companies like Apple are so successful because of it. Hopefully Ford and other companies go the Microsoft/Android route instead of the Apple route. Who really knows.
"this is pretty damn" expected level of bare minimum repairability. The problem are the idiots buying Tesla. Same goes for Apple in the tech world, they are cancerous to technological innovation and nobody should ever buy one.
@@Darth_Bateman What do you mean by unsustainable company? Both financially and environmentally they are sustainable. Their products create, store and use electricity to power homes and transport people efficiently and safely. I'm not sure about the solar panels but the other products are recyclable.
@@jamesmorison Plastic is recyclable, but that doesn’t mean we should keep spewing it out Just because something is recyclable doesn’t make it sustainable Also, that doesn’t justify making unrepairable products
@@jamesmorison tesla is not financially sustainable. It stays afloat from an insane stock valuation and by selling EV credits to other car manufacturers. If those are taken away it will collapse
Tesla won't give out the code needed to unlock a used part so that it will work. They want to keep overcharging for service hoping their customers won't figure out that they are being scammed. This is similar to Honda convincing their customers that Honda's overrated cars that have major issues are the best & convincing their customers that they were smart for buying an overrated & overpriced car....
Well, Tesla didn't just throw away old stuff into a junkyard just to replace a new one. Right to repair is nice and all until your car has Autopilot, which would require many parts to be the same as they came out from the factory or you risk the chance of Autopilot not working properly. Tesla is trying to eliminate the future laws suit.
I love the fact that you can take a family car that might have been passed down from grandfather to grandson or son, then you can convert it to an ev while keeping the rest original as possible. It runs clean, no noise, lots of torque and instant throttle response. So you can now drive this old classic car like an everyday vehicle it's great!
I have a 1984 Porshe 928S that I want to convert to electric. It was great fun to own with the original IC engine but too expensive and difficult to restore and maintain now, so I 100% agree. Why should it go to scrap? Why can't it have another life?
A lot of people making fun of Ford for just selling the Crate EV motor “Batteries not included”. But 99% of crate motors are the same way. You still need to source radiators, hoses, wiring, a fuel tank, fuel pump system, etc etc etc. Right now yes it’s a limited market with a learning curve. But don’t be surprised if in the next decade you can pop into your local auto zone and pick up all these EV components.
Autozone gonna go out of business because normal people can't even fix normal cars let alone this. I consider myself very good at working on cars and I can't even figure out a wiring diagram from the 80s.
@@HALOman-vi2tg I do get your point, the battery pack and and it’s management system is ALOT more expensive then a fuel management system and a fuel cell/tank. Batteries are generally the highest cost part of an Ev. Much more than the motor
@@mr.mercury4247 electric cars are actually technically much simpler than internal combustion. An electric motor is just series of copper coils around a magnet inside a metal housing and most of the other moving components are already present in combustion cars like brakes and coolant loops (just it goes to the battery instead of the engine in an EV). Even the motor control software is simpler than a combustion engine since there is no throttle unit or fuel injectors to worry about. Removing the combustion engine takes A LOT of complexity out of cars and could be the beginning a new world of easier car repair if companies don't get overly controling about it.
Note - I don't think FORD wanted to "take the initiative" ... they are legally mandated to do this AND literally paid millions of dollars to try and change the laws. Right to Repair is amazing and ABSOLUTELY NECESARY!
This has to be one of my favorite UA-cam tech vids in a long time. Great job on getting all of these topics into one digestible video that is so well narrated.
I've been waiting for Europe to allow doing this kind of thing legally to vintage cars, no need to throw away perfectly good cars just because the motor is blown and inefficient
It's replacement batteries that EVs need most, the motors are extremely low maintenance. Or are you just referring to supporting 3rd party repair and modification generally?
Some people are scared EVs are going to kill car modding. I'm glad this proves them wrong and I'm super excited that ford did this, because now the other big brands *have to do the same thing*. They can't leave that challenge unanswered. That means more competition, more electric options, more support, and eventually lower prices. Should also help shift public perception of EVs in some of the crowds that still needed convincing.
Just because it's possible doesn't mean anyone will want to do it. EVs have no exhaust or real transmissions or anything like that so the only modifiable aspects are the brakes and speed, which is a REALLY dangerous game to start playing.
Been an independent mechanic for the majority of my 15+ of working on cars. I'd say all to most manufacturers try to do what they can to make life difficult for the independent shops. And while good for Ford for doing something right, I fear it's only going to get a lot harder going forward for independent mechanics to have access to the correct information and tools.
@@dallasdominguez2224 the point is unless you work for that manufacturer, Tesla included. They try their hardest to prevent independent mechanics from repairing their vehicles. If they could have their way only factory certified and employed technicians would be able to work on their products. John Deer is in a court battle about this right now. Has nothing to do with electric vehicles.
This is Rich Rebuilds company I thought? Where's Rich at? He's the one who inspired all this got the word out. Tesla even took away is free roadster reservation because he was sharing with the community you guys should definitely get him interviewed if you haven't already
I watch most of these pieces expecting them to be a Tesla hit piece, but this wasn’t. It really covers a large gap that they’re missing out on and others are covering. Great video
This is one of the reasons I love my Ford's. I've been able to get every part for my F150, my dad's Transit, my dad's old Econoline, and a bunch of friends say the same about their Ford vehicles. Aftermarket solutions like Forscan that are free alternative's to Ford's IDS software (Which they will sell to you if you're will to pay for it) make the software side just as easy as the hardware. To all the numbskull's who say "it's dangerous" have clearly never worked on their own cars or been taught to. I've actually brought Ford up as a case FOR Right to Repair.
Just talking about this Ford F-100 for 8 minutes would be already a great video, but what you did here is awesome, a lot of great and useful information! Thank you for sharing! 🔌⚡🚘
I feel that Right to Repair will be one of the most important movements in these coming years, hell it already is. It's impairitive that the public should be able to fix and service their own vehicles without the need to be charged exorbitant prices from scummy servicing monopolies like Tesla, John Deere, or Apple.
If there's one way to win over the old school classic market it's with EV crate engines, I love what Ford are doing and it's going to help with converting people and cars alot sooner than perhaps Tesla's walled-approach. Awesome vid Verge team!
The whole point of tuning is to make the exhaust shoot flames and sound like gun shots. People who aren't drag/track people care little about speed. It's all about the experience, which EVs have no soul and no emotion.
@@mr.mercury4247 I believe most mechanics and car enthusiasts are always excited to learn and see new things done with automobiles. Converting an old water pump into a diesel fuel filter or hanging a gas jug to bypass a fuel system are some of the odd but interesting things I’ve seen mechanics do to vehicles they love. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say they’d be interested in an electric motor as well.
As an Ocalian, I can tell you how proud of Electrified Garage this community is. They've brought the future of EV to our town, not by being some big manufacturer or software giant like Tesla, but by being straight-up, grinding entrepreneurs who innovate in their own way. Thanks for featuring them, and the need for an EV repair ecosystem. We're working on it here in Ocala, FL
When I bought my Model S 2 1/2 years ago, I knew there weren't too many 3rd party repair shops, but I had hopes that once my car was out of warranty, things would get better. Instead, they've gotten worse. Now even if you want to pay Tesla to fix your car, you need to wait weeks before you can get it into a service center. You can no longer walk into a service center and order parts (those that they will actually sell you) or call anyone on the phone. It's a miserable experience when something goes wrong. I'm hoping that Ford does actually follow through like the video alludes to. Their EVs are still pretty new, and just offering an electric crate motor isn't the same as opening up telemetrics, diagnostic software, and all factory parts to the end user, but it's a step in the right direct. I'll be selling my Model S once my Lightning arrives this summer.
This is one of reasons why I do not recommend Tesla to friends. Customer able to buy replacement parts from anywhere not just from Tesla service or Tesla shop which is usually expensive.
This actually feels like Back To The Future Part II. After the doc returns with the upgraded DeLorean, he effectively did this same thing, giving an old car a new life. With the many awful things we are now aware of in our modern day life, it's great to see some initiatives to reduce our costs, waste and preserve both our legacies and our earth. Bravo.
Brands like Apple and Tesla will never do this, which is ironic considering Nikola Tesla wanted to give his greatest works away for free to better the world.
Tesla's anti-consumer approach to their car design has been a major thorn to my opinion of EVs and I would love to see them changed because the right to repair belongs to everyone, not just the manufacturer.
Tesla's trength is entirely in their supercharging network. But if Ford is the first to have a robust independent maintenance and system that lets me work on the car myself, that will be what make me buy a Ford EV over any other brand.
Last year I got a new Bronco Sport and it's perfect for my needs. While I absolutely love it, I decided that it will be my last gasoline powered vehicle and I would eventually get an electric vehicle. Of course that would be many years later since I plan to keep the Bronco Sport for a very long time. This gives me high hopes that I could eventually convert it to an electric vehicle instead of buying a whole new vehicle at a much higher price.
@@chelsea7xhf Even though it's not a full size Bronco I still get a lot of questions from people about it and compliments on it. It's been pretty awesome to own and drive.
@@tamie341 First thing, didn't want to wait years for them to announce an ev version, then release it, then wait on a reservation list. Second thing, you complete missed what my comment and the other persons comment said. Didn't complain about the bronco sport at all and mentioned how much we love it. The whole point of my comment and the video is the idea of converting to electric and repairing for a fraction of the price of purchasing a new ev.
That's the part that upsets me the most about teslas. Because they don't have dealerships the right to repair laws don't apply to them that every other auto maker is required adhere to. And I hope people eventually stand up to make sure it applies to the cars of the future.
If this is adopted on a massive scale, it would solve the problem of what to do with older ICE cars when people do switch to EVs. Instead of buying a whole new EV and disposing your old car, why not convert it to an EV? It’s a great idea imo
Go to "Electric Classic Cars" You tube channel, they explain it all and have loads of conversions. They are doing 4 Tesla powered Testarossas as we speak and do some bolt in conversions.
You basically want to have a kit of battery+inverter+motor that is made to work together. I have heard of an European company wanting to offer this for retrofitting smaller urban cars, but I don't know if you can buy anything yet
As much as a lot of old school car enthusiasts naysay EVs, I really think Ford is doing great things with pushing electric crate motors, as well as right to repair. They may be able to catch a large portion of the market while others are trying to stonewall their customers with proprietary software and repair facilities.
He hit the nail on the head when he said Tesla is a software company that just happens to sell cars. It's the same with Apple, they are a software company that just happens to sell phones. I know most people won't see the distinction but it is an important one to make because it underpins where the value of the company is and what they are trying to protect.
Man Tesla is really trying their hardest to lose their hold on the EV market. The worst being their non standard charging stations. Imagine if gas stations were car specific? If there were ford gas stations and Toyota stations, that’d be a nightmare
It's all a part of their dystopian walled garden bs. The cars are fast but there are just way too many downsides imo. Bring on more Ford and Kia/Hyundai EV's, those are killing it right now
Its also funny because there is already a universal standard (CCS) for EV chargers. They are required to offer a CCS charging port on their European bought cars but have completed ignored that for US market. Just another immoral play to juice up their walled garden
This is a very big deal. There is hope for Ford after all ... Add that to the fact that their F150 can power a house, then it seems Ford is working for the needs of the consumers.
Only reason tesla is scared for right to repair is because people would be unlocking features in the teslas that people usually would have to pay them for
Come on Ford! This could be a new Model T revolution. Let’s make EVs mainstream and allow any garage to repair them. How can EVs be viable if they are not affordable?
The Verge missing a huge part of the issue here. For cars sold in the US manufacturers are legally required to provide the information necessary to properly service and maintain a vehicle. Every manufacturer does this through some sort of subscription service, except Tesla. It seems that Tesla has no problem flaunting sustainability when it helps the bottom line.
It's very straight forward if your not allowed or able to modify, repair, or play with the base systems of a product you purchase do you own it or are you leasing it. Right to repair is not just about getting access to parts and information it has a big role to play in property rights going into the future.
I hope governments recognize and subsidize EV conversions. France already is with TransitionOne. Seems like a good way to switch a lot of ICE to EVs for a few thousands of dollars rather than tens of thousands.
France is clearly headed in the direction of lowering car use in general. Look what has been happening throughout Paris in the past three years. New bike lines built, money invested into public transit systems, cars moved away from the city center... We need to focus on the goal of lower emissions (includes tire microplastics), less road accidents, lower road noise and a safer place that you can enjoy. No car will ever do that, hence they deserve no subsidies
It would be sick if Ford actually brought back the F100 body in all electric. That truck is wicked looking. Where did that steering wheel come from? It so fits that setup.
This video is right on. I live in Hong Kong where there are a lot of Tesla and I see a lot of repair shops that always have dozens of Teslas backed up for repair.
This is exciting. But how can we modify EVs safely, especially when working with high voltage systems? As far as I know, people need special trainings and qualifications to work with HV components.
It’s not rocket science. Like anything featuring high voltage you need to respect it, wear the right protective equipment and preferably have someone standing by with an insulated hook. The good news - the times you have to deal with the full voltage of the pack are few and the typical 350-400V range of EVs does not require linesman level safety gear.
@@mondotv4216 If you've seen someone blown across a room by a high voltage panel you'd recant on it not being rocket science. Overcharge a 4 farad cap and you can even witness it reach apoapsis.
Most of the time you wouldnt even need to get in contact with bare conduits. Everything can be connected using Plugs. You drop it in and all the 400VDC Connections can be made plug n play. While the rest of the 12V system can be wired just like we are used to.
As a guy who likes to fix and repair his own cars; Ford and Chevy offering their electric motors as a crate motor is wonderfully encouraging! I have been hesitant to be okay, at least mentally, with going electric because that might mean giving up something I love to do. This makes me more willing to embrace EVs. Now, if they can make EV motors paired with manual transmissions then I would go electric. But I still love my gasoline Accord. 😀
but at the same time, all the big car companies has sued people for 3D printing their own caps to replace old ones. only ford approved plastics are legal for ford cars
My biggest problem with this is that not only would you need to buy a crate motor, but an ev battery thats compatible with it and has enough range, a charging input, an inverter, a new transmission, I mean at that point you're building a new car.
"Tesla is 'saving the environment' by forcing customers to pay THEM to replace parts rather than giving them the right to repair it themselves. Revolting..." (Fixed your comment...)
As far as I'm concerned once you make your final payment on a car. The manufacturer should be obligated to give you software. That helps you tackle electrical issues, full diagnostics, access/read/disable all the modules, programming and of course key duplication. Also a complimentary bag of the specialty tools needed for repairs would be nice. If a manufacturer decides that they're not going to produce a particular part anymore they should open up support for third-party companies. Any person has ever owned a Mercedes and experienced an "All keys lost" or had a Skreem (a part they don't even make anymore for the old switchblade keys) malfunction knows exactly what I'm talking about.
There is also a French company called "Transmission One" which are planning a very interesting cheap/basic EV conversion for cars. They are basically just inserting an electric motor + custom gearbox. Once done, you can still shift gears! :o
These issues are the reason why companies like Tesla annoys me so much… and why I won’t ever get a vehicle like that until right to repair is across the board, a good idea is to mate a motor like that to a manual transmission :D
To see FORD(!) of all companies taking the lead on this is very encouraging. The specs on this little unit are very nice, and the price is too. This feels like the beginning of something special.
Yeah but with the e crate motor, it’s no more complicated than dropping in a modern efi crate motor in an older car. As someone who’s dropped an LS inside a a 1970 VW beetle, the amount of wiring, ecu programming, esc and abs programming, and fuel system manipulation is analogous to what you’re looking at that you’d need to do if you’re gonna drop a Mach E crate motor in an older chassis. It’s just a matter of time until someone in the market starts selling software packages to program these electric motors for specific applications analogous to downloadable ECU tunes. They’d make bank.
"What up Hogboss, wanna race!" 😂🤣 Great video and topic. I know a guy who built a 57 Porsche Roadster replica EV in 1998. Won races and competitions all over the place. I always wanted to do it to a classic Ford. Factory Five has an amazing Cobra replica and I am curious as to the possibility of the Mustang EV system in that.
I don't get why electric cars are supposed to be hard to work on, they are made of fairly simple electric and electronic parts. There is nothing ground breaking about them.
If you could make any car an EV, what car would it be?
yo
Citroen SM
classic Mini
VW Westy
Porsche 964
I would love to see increased coverage of Right to Repair from The Verge
I second this!!
me too
10000% agree 💯👍
+1 right to repair needs to happen and more of the public would stand behind it if they better understand it.
Ditto!
Because Toyotas are known to be very repairable, I look forward to see if Toyota EVs will be easily repairable or not. I love that Ford has taken this approach. ❤️
Same! Can’t justify paying over a grand ever time my headlights need to be replaced.
Toyota's CEO is very publicly against EV's hence their continued attempts to push Hydrogen based ICE engines.
Toyota ev takes 7 hours to charge, good luck with that.
@@ugochukwueze496 most people getting EVs probably using them for a commute, ~50mi, and charging them at home overnight. different cars suit different needs
@@ugochukwueze496 most EVs do on a Level 2 charger, and that's okay for home charging.
Love that Ford is taking this initiative, and hope that they actually make enough. There’s no good reason to destroy a healthy ecosystems of mechanics and garages, and it seems a lot more eco friendly to replace an engine instead of the whole body, system, seats, etc etc
They aren't taking initiative, they're conning idiots who believe marketing. Shops are already completely fed up with the constant months-long backorders for replacement parts that every other manufacturer seems to have no problem with.
Ford is responding to capitalistic demand. It's more profitable to offer parts and products to potential competitors in the e-space than it is to litigate copies. No one needs to bother copying a product if they can just buy it and use it in their own designs. Just wait when they get really moving on their BlueOval City battery productions and selling the sk inno cells.
ford seems to be pretty serious about making affordable, efficient cars recently and i’m excited to see how they evolve over the coming years. the maverick and f-150 lightning are great examples of this.
Part of the temptation for every manufacturer is on the software side of things. Where every single computer in your stuff is a black box of secrets that usually has no aftermarket alternative. Which gives them a lot of power over the product. They can make any alternatives they don't control incompatible with the stroke of a few keys and a forced update. We have seen it with Apple, Tesla, and John Deere. We have seen it with printers and many of the new "internet of things" products (Who wants DRM for their toaster or light switch?). Heck even McDonalds ice cream machines breakdown mostly due to software BS.
Software being used to take control away from the consumer is a growing trend. Especially since companies like Apple are so successful because of it. Hopefully Ford and other companies go the Microsoft/Android route instead of the Apple route. Who really knows.
@@actually5004 What are you referring to?
Gotta give credit to Ford, this is pretty damn legit. Hope this extends to more manufacturers and more parts!
"this is pretty damn" expected level of bare minimum repairability. The problem are the idiots buying Tesla. Same goes for Apple in the tech world, they are cancerous to technological innovation and nobody should ever buy one.
I hope it extends to other companies like Samsung & Apple
GOATS
Tesla goes against its own “environmental” push. Right to Repair is an environmentally conscious pillar.
@@Darth_Bateman What do you mean by unsustainable company? Both financially and environmentally they are sustainable. Their products create, store and use electricity to power homes and transport people efficiently and safely. I'm not sure about the solar panels but the other products are recyclable.
@@jamesmorison Plastic is recyclable, but that doesn’t mean we should keep spewing it out
Just because something is recyclable doesn’t make it sustainable
Also, that doesn’t justify making unrepairable products
@@jamesmorison tesla is not financially sustainable. It stays afloat from an insane stock valuation and by selling EV credits to other car manufacturers. If those are taken away it will collapse
Tesla won't give out the code needed to unlock a used part so that it will work. They want to keep overcharging for service hoping their customers won't figure out that they are being scammed. This is similar to Honda convincing their customers that Honda's overrated cars that have major issues are the best & convincing their customers that they were smart for buying an overrated & overpriced car....
Well, Tesla didn't just throw away old stuff into a junkyard just to replace a new one. Right to repair is nice and all until your car has Autopilot, which would require many parts to be the same as they came out from the factory or you risk the chance of Autopilot not working properly.
Tesla is trying to eliminate the future laws suit.
I love the fact that you can take a family car that might have been passed down from grandfather to grandson or son, then you can convert it to an ev while keeping the rest original as possible. It runs clean, no noise, lots of torque and instant throttle response. So you can now drive this old classic car like an everyday vehicle it's great!
I have a 1984 Porshe 928S that I want to convert to electric. It was great fun to own with the original IC engine but too expensive and difficult to restore and maintain now, so I 100% agree. Why should it go to scrap? Why can't it have another life?
@@langdons2848 My thoughts exactly. Wow a 928s! what a beautiful car.
@@Jezee213 Indeed - I would very much like see it on the road again.
prepare 20k for that
@@Uzumaki Yes, I'm sure any convert is expensive. It will get cheaper as time goes on though, well......I would think.
A lot of people making fun of Ford for just selling the Crate EV motor “Batteries not included”. But 99% of crate motors are the same way. You still need to source radiators, hoses, wiring, a fuel tank, fuel pump system, etc etc etc.
Right now yes it’s a limited market with a learning curve. But don’t be surprised if in the next decade you can pop into your local auto zone and pick up all these EV components.
Autozone gonna go out of business because normal people can't even fix normal cars let alone this. I consider myself very good at working on cars and I can't even figure out a wiring diagram from the 80s.
Same with crate engines you still need fuel systems ignition computers exhaust so I don’t understand those peoples argument
@@HALOman-vi2tg I do get your point, the battery pack and and it’s management system is ALOT more expensive then a fuel management system and a fuel cell/tank.
Batteries are generally the highest cost part of an Ev. Much more than the motor
@@mr.mercury4247 electric cars are actually technically much simpler than internal combustion. An electric motor is just series of copper coils around a magnet inside a metal housing and most of the other moving components are already present in combustion cars like brakes and coolant loops (just it goes to the battery instead of the engine in an EV). Even the motor control software is simpler than a combustion engine since there is no throttle unit or fuel injectors to worry about. Removing the combustion engine takes A LOT of complexity out of cars and could be the beginning a new world of easier car repair if companies don't get overly controling about it.
Also, IMO, crate motors should include the inverter, so people buying the motors don't have to do the company's R&D all over again.
I think GM does this too. Both manufacturers continuing their tradition of making their motors available for anyone to buy is definitely a good thing!
Yeah they say that in the video
That will be cool when GM actually produces and sells a viable EV.
@@puta1082 >viable EV
so, a trolleybus?
@@coel3572 Why a trolly bus? Not sure what you are trying to say.
@@puta1082 the only viable mean of trabsport in future is public transport to avoid traffic and conserve time
Really happy to see you leveraging Ford's crate motor announcement to highlight the need for right to repair. Sincerely, a Tesla owner
You got scammed bruh bought into another unnecessary walled garden like the apple fanbois 😂😂
@@tamie341 scammed ? wtf are you talking about did you even know the depreciation of a tesla? you may even sell it for profit
@@Uzumaki you can’t have it all, they resell well which is good because I doubt they’ll ever open them up for right to repair.
@@jorgeluiscorrea992 its more about reputation, if you repair it yourself then it catches fire or else everyone will point their finger at tesla
@@Uzumaki true
Note - I don't think FORD wanted to "take the initiative" ... they are legally mandated to do this AND literally paid millions of dollars to try and change the laws. Right to Repair is amazing and ABSOLUTELY NECESARY!
This has to be one of my favorite UA-cam tech vids in a long time. Great job on getting all of these topics into one digestible video that is so well narrated.
I've been waiting for Europe to allow doing this kind of thing legally to vintage cars, no need to throw away perfectly good cars just because the motor is blown and inefficient
you are allowed to in europe, there are multiple EV conversions
Europe already does. Unless youre ingermany, then TUV is probably not allowing u to do thay
leonrdo.2
Dont speak European WV slave
You can, is pretty expensive but 100% legal
That's actually pretty dope. Hope this can make EV's actually sustainable for once...
They already are
They're hardly sustainable, but it's better than throwing it away sooner.
What do you mean by sustainable?
It's replacement batteries that EVs need most, the motors are extremely low maintenance.
Or are you just referring to supporting 3rd party repair and modification generally?
@@vp5429 Until you need to replace the batteries... But that's a 3rd world problem, not a 1st world problem
Some people are scared EVs are going to kill car modding. I'm glad this proves them wrong and I'm super excited that ford did this, because now the other big brands *have to do the same thing*. They can't leave that challenge unanswered. That means more competition, more electric options, more support, and eventually lower prices. Should also help shift public perception of EVs in some of the crowds that still needed convincing.
It’s just a compliment to car modding opens up so may other doors I think it’s awesome
I just wanna see no more tesla and no more Elon
Just because it's possible doesn't mean anyone will want to do it. EVs have no exhaust or real transmissions or anything like that so the only modifiable aspects are the brakes and speed, which is a REALLY dangerous game to start playing.
Been an independent mechanic for the majority of my 15+ of working on cars. I'd say all to most manufacturers try to do what they can to make life difficult for the independent shops. And while good for Ford for doing something right, I fear it's only going to get a lot harder going forward for independent mechanics to have access to the correct information and tools.
Maybe become an EV mechanic as well? Technology will always change, and we have to change with it.
@@dallasdominguez2224 you have completely missed the point.
@@mikeumm ok what was your point? 😂
@@dallasdominguez2224 the point is unless you work for that manufacturer, Tesla included. They try their hardest to prevent independent mechanics from repairing their vehicles. If they could have their way only factory certified and employed technicians would be able to work on their products.
John Deer is in a court battle about this right now.
Has nothing to do with electric vehicles.
@@mikeumm Ahhh I see. Thank you for explaining.
You should have interviewed Luis Rossmann for this piece as well.
Please do more Right to Repair topics.
I was going to write "I dont c Luis here !! " but u alreay did the job.
This is Rich Rebuilds company I thought?
Where's Rich at?
He's the one who inspired all this got the word out.
Tesla even took away is free roadster reservation because he was sharing with the community you guys should definitely get him interviewed if you haven't already
I had the same question.
Rich stated he was a part owner. It's not his company
damn that’s cruel
Thank you I honestly didn't even know this was a thing, super awesome!
Right of repair is critical, and so few are talking about it. Thanks for covering this.
Features Electrified Garage and yet no mention of that other partner in that venture...Uncle Rich :D
I watch most of these pieces expecting them to be a Tesla hit piece, but this wasn’t. It really covers a large gap that they’re missing out on and others are covering. Great video
This is one of the reasons I love my Ford's. I've been able to get every part for my F150, my dad's Transit, my dad's old Econoline, and a bunch of friends say the same about their Ford vehicles. Aftermarket solutions like Forscan that are free alternative's to Ford's IDS software (Which they will sell to you if you're will to pay for it) make the software side just as easy as the hardware. To all the numbskull's who say "it's dangerous" have clearly never worked on their own cars or been taught to. I've actually brought Ford up as a case FOR Right to Repair.
Just talking about this Ford F-100 for 8 minutes would be already a great video, but what you did here is awesome, a lot of great and useful information! Thank you for sharing! 🔌⚡🚘
I feel that Right to Repair will be one of the most important movements in these coming years, hell it already is. It's impairitive that the public should be able to fix and service their own vehicles without the need to be charged exorbitant prices from scummy servicing monopolies like Tesla, John Deere, or Apple.
Right to repair is a non-partisan issue that EVERY SINGLE PERSON should be fighting for
If there's one way to win over the old school classic market it's with EV crate engines, I love what Ford are doing and it's going to help with converting people and cars alot sooner than perhaps Tesla's walled-approach. Awesome vid Verge team!
Ahh yes, old hot rodders are notorious for liking quiet, computer controlled cars.
The whole point of tuning is to make the exhaust shoot flames and sound like gun shots. People who aren't drag/track people care little about speed. It's all about the experience, which EVs have no soul and no emotion.
@@mr.mercury4247 I believe most mechanics and car enthusiasts are always excited to learn and see new things done with automobiles. Converting an old water pump into a diesel fuel filter or hanging a gas jug to bypass a fuel system are some of the odd but interesting things I’ve seen mechanics do to vehicles they love. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say they’d be interested in an electric motor as well.
nope if it's not a V8 I don't want it.
@@princetchalla2441 Yea no . Imo
As an Ocalian, I can tell you how proud of Electrified Garage this community is. They've brought the future of EV to our town, not by being some big manufacturer or software giant like Tesla, but by being straight-up, grinding entrepreneurs who innovate in their own way. Thanks for featuring them, and the need for an EV repair ecosystem. We're working on it here in Ocala, FL
When I bought my Model S 2 1/2 years ago, I knew there weren't too many 3rd party repair shops, but I had hopes that once my car was out of warranty, things would get better. Instead, they've gotten worse. Now even if you want to pay Tesla to fix your car, you need to wait weeks before you can get it into a service center. You can no longer walk into a service center and order parts (those that they will actually sell you) or call anyone on the phone. It's a miserable experience when something goes wrong.
I'm hoping that Ford does actually follow through like the video alludes to. Their EVs are still pretty new, and just offering an electric crate motor isn't the same as opening up telemetrics, diagnostic software, and all factory parts to the end user, but it's a step in the right direct. I'll be selling my Model S once my Lightning arrives this summer.
im not normally a huge fan if the verge, however this was a well done production with legitimate content. I enjoyed it
This is one of reasons why I do not recommend Tesla to friends. Customer able to buy replacement parts from anywhere not just from Tesla service or Tesla shop which is usually expensive.
This actually feels like Back To The Future Part II. After the doc returns with the upgraded DeLorean, he effectively did this same thing, giving an old car a new life.
With the many awful things we are now aware of in our modern day life, it's great to see some initiatives to reduce our costs, waste and preserve both our legacies and our earth. Bravo.
Old car? You can buy a new one today though straight off the factory floor...
When is Ford going to release the hover conversion kit and Mr. Fusion?
Brands like Apple and Tesla will never do this, which is ironic considering Nikola Tesla wanted to give his greatest works away for free to better the world.
Tesla's anti-consumer approach to their car design has been a major thorn to my opinion of EVs and I would love to see them changed because the right to repair belongs to everyone, not just the manufacturer.
Tesla's trength is entirely in their supercharging network.
But if Ford is the first to have a robust independent maintenance and system that lets me work on the car myself, that will be what make me buy a Ford EV over any other brand.
They need to sell a kit with dash, battery, motor, controllers, ac, coolant pump etc for easy retrofitting
why don't you make it yourself find these the parts from manufacturers and drop ship it after you know it works
Travis: “…stuck on the road charging like an electric 150 Ford”
Rich: “I trained him well”
Becca is like the best video anchor!
Last year I got a new Bronco Sport and it's perfect for my needs. While I absolutely love it, I decided that it will be my last gasoline powered vehicle and I would eventually get an electric vehicle. Of course that would be many years later since I plan to keep the Bronco Sport for a very long time. This gives me high hopes that I could eventually convert it to an electric vehicle instead of buying a whole new vehicle at a much higher price.
Yeah, same here I bought mine Bronco Sports, I just love the traditional car/SUV design!
@@chelsea7xhf Even though it's not a full size Bronco I still get a lot of questions from people about it and compliments on it. It's been pretty awesome to own and drive.
Should've just waited for the EV version guys. Guarantee Ford will eventually electrify it
@@tamie341 First thing, didn't want to wait years for them to announce an ev version, then release it, then wait on a reservation list. Second thing, you complete missed what my comment and the other persons comment said. Didn't complain about the bronco sport at all and mentioned how much we love it. The whole point of my comment and the video is the idea of converting to electric and repairing for a fraction of the price of purchasing a new ev.
That's the part that upsets me the most about teslas. Because they don't have dealerships the right to repair laws don't apply to them that every other auto maker is required adhere to. And I hope people eventually stand up to make sure it applies to the cars of the future.
Love these video formats that cover the right to repair. Want to see more of these
Dayum! Ocala going national! Don Prudhomme would be proud!
Hopefully they continue like this and other companies follow because Tesla need to be taken down a notch when it comes to fair business practices.
Like the fair market practice of marking up a new Mach-E at dealerships $10-50k?
Tesla is fair though lmao
@@dominicbendinelli4805 don't you know ford actually warning about the cease and desist measures for hiking prices up?
tesla is fair, you get what you paid for. at the beginning they sold model 3 for a loss and even now I don't think there is much of a profit per car.
It's pretty sweet to be able to do this to older cars!
If this is adopted on a massive scale, it would solve the problem of what to do with older ICE cars when people do switch to EVs. Instead of buying a whole new EV and disposing your old car, why not convert it to an EV? It’s a great idea imo
because is not cheap to convert one, only a 40kw battery pack(a small one) is 10k
"All the diehard manual transmission guys are gonna be like 'boo hoo'"
I feel personally attacked 😆
What a fantastic piece of content. Thank you!
Love the video.
Electrical garage interview in this video was beautiful.
I've been wanting to do an EV conversion for a while... theoretically what would I need to turn a classic car (for example) into a well working EV?
Go to "Electric Classic Cars" You tube channel, they explain it all and have loads of conversions. They are doing 4 Tesla powered Testarossas as we speak and do some bolt in conversions.
You basically want to have a kit of battery+inverter+motor that is made to work together. I have heard of an European company wanting to offer this for retrofitting smaller urban cars, but I don't know if you can buy anything yet
@@zatarstar5590 that company would be Transmission One, from France! :)
If you want to get beat up at every car meet you go to.
i would like to do this conversion with a bmw z3 from 1999 🤔
As much as a lot of old school car enthusiasts naysay EVs, I really think Ford is doing great things with pushing electric crate motors, as well as right to repair.
They may be able to catch a large portion of the market while others are trying to stonewall their customers with proprietary software and repair facilities.
I love this and i think it’s a great idea to make more Evs modifiable and getting parts and tools
Wow that white Ford truck is beautiful.
unlike mobilephone, automotive industry is totally different beast. I do not like how Tesla is following Apple's footstep.
He hit the nail on the head when he said Tesla is a software company that just happens to sell cars. It's the same with Apple, they are a software company that just happens to sell phones. I know most people won't see the distinction but it is an important one to make because it underpins where the value of the company is and what they are trying to protect.
Man Tesla is really trying their hardest to lose their hold on the EV market. The worst being their non standard charging stations. Imagine if gas stations were car specific? If there were ford gas stations and Toyota stations, that’d be a nightmare
It's all a part of their dystopian walled garden bs. The cars are fast but there are just way too many downsides imo. Bring on more Ford and Kia/Hyundai EV's, those are killing it right now
Its also funny because there is already a universal standard (CCS) for EV chargers. They are required to offer a CCS charging port on their European bought cars but have completed ignored that for US market. Just another immoral play to juice up their walled garden
Just a reminder, a few years back, GM claimed that "... you don't own your vehicle, you're licensing it..."
This is a very big deal. There is hope for Ford after all ... Add that to the fact that their F150 can power a house, then it seems Ford is working for the needs of the consumers.
Only reason tesla is scared for right to repair is because people would be unlocking features in the teslas that people usually would have to pay them for
Come on Ford! This could be a new Model T revolution. Let’s make EVs mainstream and allow any garage to repair them. How can EVs be viable if they are not affordable?
As a car enthusiast, I really appreciate this story
The Verge missing a huge part of the issue here. For cars sold in the US manufacturers are legally required to provide the information necessary to properly service and maintain a vehicle. Every manufacturer does this through some sort of subscription service, except Tesla. It seems that Tesla has no problem flaunting sustainability when it helps the bottom line.
Tesla has their manuals available for download now.
You really should've interviewed Louis Rossman for this.
Tesla will be dragged ticking and screaming into the right to repair age.
It's very straight forward if your not allowed or able to modify, repair, or play with the base systems of a product you purchase do you own it or are you leasing it. Right to repair is not just about getting access to parts and information it has a big role to play in property rights going into the future.
I hope governments recognize and subsidize EV conversions. France already is with TransitionOne. Seems like a good way to switch a lot of ICE to EVs for a few thousands of dollars rather than tens of thousands.
France is clearly headed in the direction of lowering car use in general. Look what has been happening throughout Paris in the past three years. New bike lines built, money invested into public transit systems, cars moved away from the city center... We need to focus on the goal of lower emissions (includes tire microplastics), less road accidents, lower road noise and a safer place that you can enjoy. No car will ever do that, hence they deserve no subsidies
Seeing the US General tool cart in the B-roll makes me smile. And feel less cheap lol
We need more vehicle like this, I love the idea of retro cars turning into e-cars
Very well written and edited. Under 9 minutes 🤠
I think only major American brand making strides to take the fight to Tesla is ford.
It would be sick if Ford actually brought back the F100 body in all electric. That truck is wicked looking. Where did that steering wheel come from?
It so fits that setup.
Heck yeah. I want to convert my current car, and this kind of initiatives allow for it
What car you trying to convert? I seen Mini Cooper Ev’s and other crazy conversions
@@bonda_racing3579 Renault stepway. It is a little crossover hatch.
@@bonda_racing3579 what abt doing this conversion with a bmw z3? that would be dope 🤔
This video is right on. I live in Hong Kong where there are a lot of Tesla and I see a lot of repair shops that always have dozens of Teslas backed up for repair.
This is exciting. But how can we modify EVs safely, especially when working with high voltage systems? As far as I know, people need special trainings and qualifications to work with HV components.
It’s not rocket science. Like anything featuring high voltage you need to respect it, wear the right protective equipment and preferably have someone standing by with an insulated hook. The good news - the times you have to deal with the full voltage of the pack are few and the typical 350-400V range of EVs does not require linesman level safety gear.
@@mondotv4216 If you've seen someone blown across a room by a high voltage panel you'd recant on it not being rocket science. Overcharge a 4 farad cap and you can even witness it reach apoapsis.
Most of the time you wouldnt even need to get in contact with bare conduits. Everything can be connected using Plugs. You drop it in and all the 400VDC Connections can be made plug n play. While the rest of the 12V system can be wired just like we are used to.
“Electric mustang” let’s be honest it’s really an electric explorer
should've included Louis Rossman in this, he's at the forefront of right to repair
As a guy who likes to fix and repair his own cars; Ford and Chevy offering their electric motors as a crate motor is wonderfully encouraging! I have been hesitant to be okay, at least mentally, with going electric because that might mean giving up something I love to do. This makes me more willing to embrace EVs. Now, if they can make EV motors paired with manual transmissions then I would go electric.
But I still love my gasoline Accord. 😀
but at the same time, all the big car companies has sued people for 3D printing their own caps to replace old ones.
only ford approved plastics are legal for ford cars
Which is why we gotta push 4 Right to Repair so that they won't screw us over
My biggest problem with this is that not only would you need to buy a crate motor, but an ev battery thats compatible with it and has enough range, a charging input, an inverter, a new transmission, I mean at that point you're building a new car.
Is this the same one that Rich from RichRebuilds
I think so, the url is the same. the logo is the same. I though Rich was the CEO
@@aquual1462 that's what I thought, given he opened the first garage
Came here for this comment, I was like wait.. that’s not Rich.
Tesla is saving the environment by forcing customers to replace parts rather than repair them. Revolutionary.
"Tesla is 'saving the environment' by forcing customers to pay THEM to replace parts rather than giving them the right to repair it themselves. Revolting..." (Fixed your comment...)
As far as I'm concerned once you make your final payment on a car. The manufacturer should be obligated to give you software. That helps you tackle electrical issues, full diagnostics, access/read/disable all the modules, programming and of course key duplication.
Also a complimentary bag of the specialty tools needed for repairs would be nice.
If a manufacturer decides that they're not going to produce a particular part anymore they should open up support for third-party companies.
Any person has ever owned a Mercedes and experienced an "All keys lost" or had a Skreem (a part they don't even make anymore for the old switchblade keys) malfunction knows exactly what I'm talking about.
So much better than those eccentric futuristic designs!
I’ve been saying car manufacturers have been needing to do this for years man
There is also a French company called "Transmission One" which are planning a very interesting cheap/basic EV conversion for cars. They are basically just inserting an electric motor + custom gearbox. Once done, you can still shift gears! :o
These issues are the reason why companies like Tesla annoys me so much… and why I won’t ever get a vehicle like that until right to repair is across the board, a good idea is to mate a motor like that to a manual transmission :D
While walking out of south Africa, Brazil, Australia and India.
Thanks ford
To see FORD(!) of all companies taking the lead on this is very encouraging. The specs on this little unit are very nice, and the price is too. This feels like the beginning of something special.
Yeah but with the e crate motor, it’s no more complicated than dropping in a modern efi crate motor in an older car. As someone who’s dropped an LS inside a a 1970 VW beetle, the amount of wiring, ecu programming, esc and abs programming, and fuel system manipulation is analogous to what you’re looking at that you’d need to do if you’re gonna drop a Mach E crate motor in an older chassis.
It’s just a matter of time until someone in the market starts selling software packages to program these electric motors for specific applications analogous to downloadable ECU tunes. They’d make bank.
"What up Hogboss, wanna race!"
😂🤣
Great video and topic. I know a guy who built a 57 Porsche Roadster replica EV in 1998. Won races and competitions all over the place. I always wanted to do it to a classic Ford. Factory Five has an amazing Cobra replica and I am curious as to the possibility of the Mustang EV system in that.
Becca you knocked this one out of the park! Kudos
Nice seeing "Electrified Garage" on here!
Thank you for this, Becca
Wtf? A good Verge video? This cant be real. I must be dreaming.
The best video I’ve seen from the verge in a long time
I don't like any American automotive company, especially Tesla, but I have to admit that what Ford is doing is very good to see.
Tesla did what Ford wouldn’t for 120 years. Now Ford has to go all electric.
I don't get why electric cars are supposed to be hard to work on, they are made of fairly simple electric and electronic parts. There is nothing ground breaking about them.
Thank you for making this video!!!
Jerryrigeverything should be a part of this video
I will not buy ANYTHING that i cannot work on myself.