4:59 okay I never understood this part why people think he's breaking the fourth wall he's merely referencing cliche anytime someone else says something like this it's considered just that referencing the fact that this seems like a cliche however because Deadpool's involved everyone immediately thinks it's breaking the fourth wall this for some reason just made me uncomfortably angry and I'm not yelling at you but I just thought I should bring it up
he's a great example of how subjective and weird alignment can be, and multiple people can disagree while all being correct. I see the argument for him being CN as much as I see one for him being CE
Totally right! I always put that little disclaimer "This is subjective" and I try to include choices saying "If you said it was this...I wouldn't disagree" implying that I am definitely not the end all be all. My little "bit" at the beginning is directed solely at people who dismiss the discussion altogether :) but, this is the internet :) and we're nerds and nerds like to argue :)
2:39 : Is this character still a thing? Answer: No, because Deadpool used Cable's timemachine in Deadpool 2 to go back in time and kill that monstrocity.
"A Wolverine with the humor and personal outlook of a millennial who was exclusively taught comedy through Rick & Morty." I couldn't have said it better myself.
"Casual torture, Chaotic Neutral" I /hard/ disagree with that. Torture, regardless of who it's being done to, is very evil. From your Shrek video, your definition includes "Deliberately harm" and "Dick Moves"
I'd say it's because of the gigantic screw-up Francis did to Wade. Because if that didn't happen, I bet he wouldn't have as much of a reason to beat Francis into a bloody pulp. And that's the epitome of moral neutrality: you do nothing to me, I do nothing to you.
That's true. That's why he's chaotic good, and not Chaotic Neutral or evil. As he, at least in his mind, believes he's going good things. However, I do get your point
@@donniejefferson9554 the alignment is about how the character perceives the world, not the inverse, so if he has good intentions he is good, even if other people think he is bad, that would be his reputation
@@sabin97 that's is semi true. However, while their perception of certain acts are seeing them as good actions, it cannot excuse seriously diabolical acts. For example, look at their video on joker. When the joker for an example of this. E.g. the things with the neighbour ect
I love this format of basically doing a review through character's choices, Currently watching Season three of Castlevania and these kind of videos make me appreciate character's like Isaac and his weird character choices.
The Lady Death would've been interesting, and they even had a moment they could've easily set it up. When Wade "dies" and goes to Vanessa in the afterlife, when she reaches across the barrier that was stopping Wade from moving on, her arm should've turned into a skeleton's arm implying it's really Death. This would've worked especially considering when Wade goes through the barrier, he looks like he did before the Weapon X program.
The way that they talk in his brief moments of "death" in totally how Deadpool and Death talk in the comics, even in the video game where they talk. I thought it was common knowledge it was so blatant.
Agreed, and I didn’t like it, lol. Vanessa was always my least favorite of his love interests, especially because in the comics their relationship is toxic and it drags him down. I would had liked Death to appear, and for her to stay dead and have Cable donX-Force in the next movie and introduce Deadpool to Siryn (the one that made him want to be a better person).
Knowing that you were formerly a teacher, when you said "did you get all that? There _will_ be a test on this," I thought for a brief moment that you were being serious and reached for a notepad and pencil to start taking notes. You still got it, Stuart. ^_^
Great video, I agree with you on most things: Starting a bar fight "for the lols" is Chaotic Evil. He is using other people's pain for gratification. It doesn't matter if it's funny, still evil. You could also argue that manipulating the X-Men to go on an adventure is also Chaotic evil as he is using them for personal gain but eh. Overall, Deadpool is certainly good-aligned!
@@TheLoadingCrew Need to think about the scene the followed the fight... Bartender (forgot his name) checks to see if he was alive... Wade bet on the guy to die, so he could win the deadpool.
@@tomon5598 Torture is only chaotic evil if the reason is evil. Torture so you can find out where the remaining Jedi can be found? Lawful Evil. Torture so you can find out where your kidnapped daughter is? Chaotic Good.
There is one comic run where deadpool stops a girl from jumping off a building and takes her out to see Hamilton and he was texting staff at mental help facility and took there to give her treatment. This version of deadpool is definitely chaotic good.
You know, it's weird, because I almost feel like Deadpool exists just to have character growth with a minimum of prompting in other marvel series. If Deadpool shows up supporting the baddies, you know he's gonna flip at the relative drop of a hat.
the important thing you missed in the beginning is that the reason deadpool can reference alternate timeline info is that he has an ability that allows him to know that he is in a comic/movie/whatever he even knows that ryan reynolds is playing him.
"he's not chaotic neutral" half the video is him describing desdpool's actions as chaotic neutral. Not to mention some of those neutral actions could be argued are actually evil. I do agree he's more good than bad at the end though, so chaotic good makes sense, but I feel like he went easy on some of his actions just so it leaned a little more towards good.
The Vanessa character in shares a name with a character in the comic called Copycat a shapeshifter. So she might actually have power if not now then down the road
Ok I respect your opinion of deadpool 2. I disagree as I think it gives him more development and has some hit jokes but I can entirely understand your view. Also I want to say I love the channel, your description of the alignment system is what infuse for my games.
He's always been chaotic good in my mind, he's out there trying to solve his own problems like we all do, except occasionally and often unknowingly he rolls over some good guys and some bad guys alike. It happens when you're as resourceful as he is. He doesn't go out of his way to hurt the good guys unless they're hindering his personal goals, and often tries to rationalize with them first.
His cancer is why his healing factor is through the roof and why he looks like a “radioactive sharpei bit Ryan Renolds” (he said that line in the comics a few minutes before he was slurped up by Cable).
He's still Chaotic Neutral because he routinely does evil shit as well. Yes, even in the movies. "Chaotic Good most of the time but does Evil semi-regularly" is still Chaotic Neutral. Whether he does Good or Evil actions varies based on how it benefits him, how he's feeling at the time, and which side he thinks has the most to offer or deserves to get fucked with the most. That is textbook Chaotic Neutral. Even if he leans towards Good more than Evil the fact that he's not opposed to doing Evil acts when it suits him means he *cannot* be Chaotic Good.
so on the continuity issues with Xavier, I always took that as he read Logan's mind and that's why he "remembers" events from the first timeline I could be wrong but this was my take also Deadpool seems to be aware of anything the audience might know do to his ability to break the fourth wall
Comics Deadpool is lawful evil first (the original Deadpool was just an assassin) going to chaotic good to chaotic neutral. Film Deadpool is never evil, just chaotic neutral to chaotic good.
Umm... chaotic neutral. A lot of What he does is based on how he feels about the person he's protecting/hired to do a job for. When he's doing stuff for himself/by himself he's very chaotic neutral.
If you seen Deadpool Wolverine, I would debate this definition. I can’t spoil it here, but there’s definitely some growth in the Deadpoolian way. His family means a lot and it wasn’t a lie it was an educated wish 😂😂😂
I am going to say this right now. Since no one other than Deadpool mentioned the timelines, that could just be a simple fourth wall break and not anything affirming a specific timeline so it's perfectly safe to consider it self contained.
He goes from chaotic neutral to chaotic good. When both sides are kinds scumy he'll betray them both for his own gain but Deadpool is smart enough to see the bigger picture sometimes and will generally fight the badguys.
Before watching this video I got an ad for some mobile game a bunch of Marvel characters are fighting and Deadpool Captain America says "Tony - shield refraction" and Iron Man shoots an energy beam and Captain America uses his shield to redirect it. Deadpool, impressed by this, throws a grenade at some scrub and shouts "New guy grenade refraction" dude blows up of course and Deadpool rushes over calls for a medic only for the guy to retort I am the medic.
I don't think the timeline for X-men is quite as confusing as you think. Days of Future Past didn't retcon everything from the original timeline, it just prevented the Sentinel program from gaining traction. Everything else probably still happened. At the end of the past portion of DOFP, Logan was hurled into the water, where he was picked up by the Weapon X program, and setting everything in motion to align with the original timeline, except where things are directly contradicted by other movies.
Going on a more mild interpitation of Evil there Evil is Selfishness, Deadpool is Chaotic Evil. It just so happens that his Chaotic Evil intreasts align with being a Anti-hero
I actually think it all depends on the writer/story/day of the week, sometimes he's chaotic neutral, sometimes even, fairly often he's straight up good aligned. I think this is why i'd argue he ultimately lines up as Chaotic Neutral. Because he so often flip flops between the two extremes. It's just rather than being a consistent Chaotic Neutral his alignment shifts alot thru the three chaotic alignments with rampant abandon as different aspects of his shattered mind take center stage, making him extreamly unpredictable. What's interesting about Deadpool is that he is one of the few morally ambiguous characters I actually like, not because he is "Huhu funny man", but because he's a tragic clown, a man who sometimes desperately wan't to do good, but is ultimately overcome and possessed by impulse, he's morally ambiguous done right in this regard, he isn't trying to pretend his evil acts are just, like so many other morally grey characters he's a man who is unable to control his impulse, except he and his writers know it.
Casual torture is CE... CN is disrupting others and sometimes antagonizing people for fun, but not to the extent of torturing or killing them without a good reason. I would also argue that killing can't be good, but can be Ln-Cn.
I...I really think the only way to describe Deadpool is "Chaotic Crazy." I mean...sometimes he quite honestly surprises himself with what he's doing...by which I mean ALL THREE VOICES IN HIS HEAD HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IS HAPPENING.
um the reason Charles knows about the future time line is that he probs read logan's mind a couple of times to modify events, its kinda odd but it could work
I feel like your stance on lawful good is a bit too lax and that most of his LG actions should have been NG, but for the most part i agree. Still feel like CG should have been the end result
@@TheLoadingCrew Eh it was a good video but definitely sloppy by your other video's standards. You did have that bias going in with the second movie so it probably affected your ratings.
Before watching the video (and having only seen Deadpool 2): Chaotic Good. While he is a merc, he doesn't seem to be truly "evil", although perhaps Neutral Evil.
Minor personal differences in opinion, I would have started him fully chaotic neutral at the beginning of his story. And the scene where he is waiting to die in prison I would call lawful neutral rather than chaotic neutral as he is not intentionally stirring up any trouble and is simply keeping his head down and following rules.
I disagree on the starting alignment. I would argue he is Chaotic Good who is trying really really hard to come off as Chaotic Neutral. Why? He does not kill anyone, he donates his contract payment to charity, he could have killed his contract but chooses not to, he walked away from an underage girl who tries to flirt with him, and his deep past is alluded to later in the movie that he was special forces and seemed to get along with his squad mates. I don't see any evil there and I see a lot of good there.
UMM is deadpool secerty chaotic good well atleast in the movie in the comic chaotic netural seems way more fair with a small tap of good but i will say he did touture which is chaotic evil
@theloadingcrew I just blew your timeline confusion wide open. Xavier does have memories from the previous timeline because he does a mind meld with himself so that new xavier has the confidence and power to continue the fight (woah maybe that's why he develops alzheimers as well, but that's super speculative)
Maybe Venessa could be like Chloe from Life is Strange. Deadpool keeps trying to save her which causes a whole lot of increasingly bad things. Eventually he has the choice to keep doing this or let her go.
Professor X. Could know about the old time line because he can read Logins mind. Then as he gets older he starts confusing his memories and logins memorizes from the old time line.
I agree with a lot of people saying a lot of the "Chaotic Neutral" moments should have been some type of Evil, but all that really changes in the final alignment is how far over the line between "Neutral Good" and "Chaotic Good" he is, he still rides that line, though.
In my opinion, Deadpool character is designed to be chaotic neutral. A person that acted purely on his mood with no good or evil values as his guideline. But still its a fictional character. People could rewrite it anytime and anyhow they want. It wont surprise me if one day Deadpool become a lawful good.
@@TheLoadingCrew the argument can be made that killing humans is always evil, even if they're "bad guys". Also having selfish motivation and no apparent remorse don't help.
@@TheLoadingCrew i did watch that video, but it's been a while. I tend to think alignment is overrated anyway, so I don't mean to say my take is more right than yours. Also i only just realized you're the person who made the video so clearly my opinion isn't that significant
your opinion is valid. just because I slapped some nonsense together doesn't make my opinion more valid :) just trying to show my evidence is consistent
I have not watched a single x man movie and im not quite through the rant yet but wanted to say that in logan prof x kinda doesnt controll his powers that well. he is a world class mind reader meaning he COULD be accidentally remembering wolverines past and then filling in gaps to justify it
He's a lot more grounded in the movies and his character is a more traditional protagonist than in the comics, so yeah, being more on the good spectrum is expected when just looking at the movies.
I agree with the original rating and the final designation of chaotic good, but I think Wade deserves a slightly more evil score. While the prisoner transport fight was necessary due to Cable’s arrival I don’t think DP knew he’d attack the transport in the middle of the city and deserves some evil points. The highway fight in the first movie was, I believe, was an act of neutral evil. He CHOSE to have a big ol’ punch/shoot-em-up on a highway in daytime, where and when there’s sure to be many drivers. I mean, legally speaking, if a non-combatant bystander died it’d absolutely count as depraved indifference murder. His actions in that fight cuts (literally) against the morality behind depraved-heart laws, he even took actions in order to ENSURE crashes. Furthermore, I personally always consider torture to be an evil act. Not that good characters/people can’t or even shouldn’t commit evil acts in the name of good causes, but I still consider it to be inflicting unnecessary pain on another person to further your goals. On a side note: Why no good points for National Woman’s day? Submitting to a pegging for your girlfriend, especially since he CLEARLY wasn’t enjoying it, is the APOTHEOSIS of generous love. GIVE THAT MAN AT LEAST 5 POINTS!!!
Hold up methodically torturing someone and finding hilarious humiliating and painful ways to kill someone is chaotic neutral but stiffing the cab ride is chaotic evil?
I think he’s chaotic good he’s a good dude except for all the murder and other bad things but if we’re going on dnd alignment I think that fits chaotic good pretty well I don’t remember him killing very many innocent people he might have killed a few (explosions don’t count) he mostly seems to be doing bad things for good reasons which is basically how I describe chaotic good
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So does that mean for once your doing a straight up villain in one of your alignment videos! SICK! (Even though i would have liked it to be Kefka.)
@@jackattacktron1000 I got a few villains lined up
Ok now I want to see a video on cables alignment.
4:59 okay I never understood this part why people think he's breaking the fourth wall he's merely referencing cliche anytime someone else says something like this it's considered just that referencing the fact that this seems like a cliche however because Deadpool's involved everyone immediately thinks it's breaking the fourth wall this for some reason just made me uncomfortably angry and I'm not yelling at you but I just thought I should bring it up
he's a great example of how subjective and weird alignment can be, and multiple people can disagree while all being correct. I see the argument for him being CN as much as I see one for him being CE
Totally right! I always put that little disclaimer "This is subjective" and I try to include choices saying "If you said it was this...I wouldn't disagree" implying that I am definitely not the end all be all.
My little "bit" at the beginning is directed solely at people who dismiss the discussion altogether :)
but, this is the internet :) and we're nerds and nerds like to argue :)
A legend in front of another
A meeting of 2 D&D champions
He’s nether he’s just the embodiment of chaos to call him anything else means he’s predictable and that he is not
Dumb Guide to Alignments when?
Chaotic. Not neutral, not good, or evil. Just Chaotic.
Yup that is the best way to describe him
Chaos,Chaos!
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I’ve described a character named Nagito like this before. I have no idea where to put him besides just chaotic. Or insane.
That is comic Deadpool. Movie Deadpool is Chaotic Good, though.
Yep.
I'm going to go with CC... Chaotic Chimichangas.
Obviously
How is this even debatable?
ROTFLOL!
He actually prefers enchiladas, he just likes saying chimichanga. He’s that chaotic.
@@mitchryan257 I thought it was pancakes?
2:39 : Is this character still a thing?
Answer: No, because Deadpool used Cable's timemachine in Deadpool 2 to go back in time and kill that monstrocity.
Literally?
"Killing MAPs is always Neutral Good."
can't argue with that.
I would argue calling them that instead of a Pedo is neutral evil.
"A Wolverine with the humor and personal outlook of a millennial who was exclusively taught comedy through Rick & Morty."
I couldn't have said it better myself.
I got a couple jokes i'm pretty proud of in this :) that one was one of them
the other one I liked was "chronological incest"
Or does Rick & Morty exist because a millennial grew up on Deadpool 🤔
@@mitchryan257or or is Deadpool a Rick and Russel his Morty? In an alternate universe timeline lol.
"Casual torture, Chaotic Neutral"
I /hard/ disagree with that. Torture, regardless of who it's being done to, is very evil.
From your Shrek video, your definition includes "Deliberately harm" and "Dick Moves"
I would if it wasn't for revenge on a bad guy specifically. in hindsight I do kinda agree with ya tho. doesn't change terribly much in the long run
I'd say it's because of the gigantic screw-up Francis did to Wade. Because if that didn't happen, I bet he wouldn't have as much of a reason to beat Francis into a bloody pulp. And that's the epitome of moral neutrality: you do nothing to me, I do nothing to you.
He doesn’t feel pain so is it still evil?
No action or power is innately evil. Just as saving a life is not innately good torture is not innately evil
@@quincyking010 Yeah, that in part explains the law vs chaos spectrum. And also the philosophical perspective of "there's no real evil."
Chaotic good probably. He is insane, and will kill anyone, but he has good intentions a lot of the time.
This was written before watching all of it.
The issue with that is it assumes that good intentions make him good. Someone can have good intentions and do a lot of really bad stuff
That's true. That's why he's chaotic good, and not Chaotic Neutral or evil. As he, at least in his mind, believes he's going good things. However, I do get your point
@@donniejefferson9554 the alignment is about how the character perceives the world, not the inverse, so if he has good intentions he is good, even if other people think he is bad, that would be his reputation
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by that logic pretty much every villain ever is good.
because in their own view they are the hero of the story.
@@sabin97 that's is semi true. However, while their perception of certain acts are seeing them as good actions, it cannot excuse seriously diabolical acts. For example, look at their video on joker. When the joker for an example of this. E.g. the things with the neighbour ect
I love this format of basically doing a review through character's choices, Currently watching Season three of Castlevania and these kind of videos make me appreciate character's like Isaac and his weird character choices.
The Lady Death would've been interesting, and they even had a moment they could've easily set it up. When Wade "dies" and goes to Vanessa in the afterlife, when she reaches across the barrier that was stopping Wade from moving on, her arm should've turned into a skeleton's arm implying it's really Death. This would've worked especially considering when Wade goes through the barrier, he looks like he did before the Weapon X program.
The way that they talk in his brief moments of "death" in totally how Deadpool and Death talk in the comics, even in the video game where they talk. I thought it was common knowledge it was so blatant.
Agreed, and I didn’t like it, lol. Vanessa was always my least favorite of his love interests, especially because in the comics their relationship is toxic and it drags him down. I would had liked Death to appear, and for her to stay dead and have Cable donX-Force in the next movie and introduce Deadpool to Siryn (the one that made him want to be a better person).
Knowing that you were formerly a teacher, when you said "did you get all that? There _will_ be a test on this," I thought for a brief moment that you were being serious and reached for a notepad and pencil to start taking notes. You still got it, Stuart. ^_^
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"Chaotic Neutral"
**shows Lawful Neutral**
thank you kind stranger
Great video, I agree with you on most things:
Starting a bar fight "for the lols" is Chaotic Evil. He is using other people's pain for gratification. It doesn't matter if it's funny, still evil.
You could also argue that manipulating the X-Men to go on an adventure is also Chaotic evil as he is using them for personal gain but eh.
Overall, Deadpool is certainly good-aligned!
the xmen I was so on the fence about. that was probably the trickiest one of all
@@TheLoadingCrew Need to think about the scene the followed the fight... Bartender (forgot his name) checks to see if he was alive... Wade bet on the guy to die, so he could win the deadpool.
Darren Older The torture was also Chaotic Evil
Also being a contact killer is not lawful
@@tomon5598 Torture is only chaotic evil if the reason is evil.
Torture so you can find out where the remaining Jedi can be found? Lawful Evil.
Torture so you can find out where your kidnapped daughter is? Chaotic Good.
UA-cam just broke for me..... I think Deadpool did it. Only that THING could break the 4th wall so hard it breaks youtube.
There is one comic run where deadpool stops a girl from jumping off a building and takes her out to see Hamilton and he was texting staff at mental help facility and took there to give her treatment. This version of deadpool is definitely chaotic good.
You know, it's weird, because I almost feel like Deadpool exists just to have character growth with a minimum of prompting in other marvel series. If Deadpool shows up supporting the baddies, you know he's gonna flip at the relative drop of a hat.
Ahh yes. Crisis on infinite red bull. That was my favorite comic book issue. Glad to see you giving it a shout out.
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Stuart: It's being disruptive, Chaotic Neutral.
The screen: I don't think so.
the important thing you missed in the beginning is that the reason deadpool can reference alternate timeline info is that he has an ability that allows him to know that he is in a comic/movie/whatever he even knows that ryan reynolds is playing him.
"he's not chaotic neutral" half the video is him describing desdpool's actions as chaotic neutral.
Not to mention some of those neutral actions could be argued are actually evil.
I do agree he's more good than bad at the end though, so chaotic good makes sense, but I feel like he went easy on some of his actions just so it leaned a little more towards good.
The Vanessa character in shares a name with a character in the comic called Copycat a shapeshifter. So she might actually have power if not now then down the road
I am pissed that it hasn’t come up yet, but people get mad at me for being a “gatekeeper” or whatever they call it. Screw ‘em.
3:30 sounds about right Deadpool does what he wants
DP is a chaotic good character pretending to be chaotic neutral.
This exactly.
Crisis on Infinite Redbulls
There's either a parody, or an add behind that
if only I could get any advertisers on my channel.../sigh
It’s both Nightwolf. It’s both.
torture is specifically listed as an evil act and will shift your character's alignment in my campaign
Ok I respect your opinion of deadpool 2. I disagree as I think it gives him more development and has some hit jokes but I can entirely understand your view. Also I want to say I love the channel, your description of the alignment system is what infuse for my games.
thank you so much :D and I don't mind disagreement my dude. lots of people disagree. thank you for being so polite about it tho :)
I would move him a bit more towards CG but I do agree with the ending alignment, I was even thinking “he’s CG” at the beginning.
He's always been chaotic good in my mind, he's out there trying to solve his own problems like we all do, except occasionally and often unknowingly he rolls over some good guys and some bad guys alike.
It happens when you're as resourceful as he is.
He doesn't go out of his way to hurt the good guys unless they're hindering his personal goals, and often tries to rationalize with them first.
His cancer is why his healing factor is through the roof and why he looks like a “radioactive sharpei bit Ryan Renolds” (he said that line in the comics a few minutes before he was slurped up by Cable).
Before the video: I bet he’ll end up chaotic good but leaning to neutral.
Edit: after the video, “knew it”
I like how Deadpool and Wolverine fixes the timeline by just saying “fuck the timeline”
He's still Chaotic Neutral because he routinely does evil shit as well. Yes, even in the movies. "Chaotic Good most of the time but does Evil semi-regularly" is still Chaotic Neutral. Whether he does Good or Evil actions varies based on how it benefits him, how he's feeling at the time, and which side he thinks has the most to offer or deserves to get fucked with the most. That is textbook Chaotic Neutral. Even if he leans towards Good more than Evil the fact that he's not opposed to doing Evil acts when it suits him means he *cannot* be Chaotic Good.
The bar scene i feel was ce but agree with u other wise
Also killing people in dark ways also seems ce
And Torture is also a evil act
so on the continuity issues with Xavier, I always took that as he read Logan's mind and that's why he "remembers" events from the first timeline I could be wrong but this was my take also Deadpool seems to be aware of anything the audience might know do to his ability to break the fourth wall
Counter-argument on him referencing Origin despite not knowing about it: This is Deadpool
Beyond that video was great and can't wait for more please take of yourself in these troubled times
Chaotic good *this is from the beginning* can't wait to see what he ends out being
You keep taunting me with that sora... we need an hour long Sora alignment
Comics Deadpool is lawful evil first (the original Deadpool was just an assassin) going to chaotic good to chaotic neutral. Film Deadpool is never evil, just chaotic neutral to chaotic good.
I agreed with the general classification, though in my calculation he ended up slightly more neutral and chaotic.
Tried jumping in halfway through the premier. Going to watch it from the start.
Umm... chaotic neutral. A lot of What he does is based on how he feels about the person he's protecting/hired to do a job for. When he's doing stuff for himself/by himself he's very chaotic neutral.
If you seen Deadpool Wolverine, I would debate this definition. I can’t spoil it here, but there’s definitely some growth in the Deadpoolian way. His family means a lot and it wasn’t a lie it was an educated wish 😂😂😂
I am going to say this right now. Since no one other than Deadpool mentioned the timelines, that could just be a simple fourth wall break and not anything affirming a specific timeline so it's perfectly safe to consider it self contained.
I’d say his characters can range from chaotic evil-chaotic good, definitely depending on who writes him
He goes from chaotic neutral to chaotic good. When both sides are kinds scumy he'll betray them both for his own gain but Deadpool is smart enough to see the bigger picture sometimes and will generally fight the badguys.
He's Lawful Chaotic. You can't tell me otherwise.
Before watching this video I got an ad for some mobile game a bunch of Marvel characters are fighting and Deadpool Captain America says "Tony - shield refraction" and Iron Man shoots an energy beam and Captain America uses his shield to redirect it. Deadpool, impressed by this, throws a grenade at some scrub and shouts "New guy grenade refraction" dude blows up of course and Deadpool rushes over calls for a medic only for the guy to retort I am the medic.
He is Chaotic Chaotic. I can never believe or trust he can be good, neutral or evil. He is the chaos himself and he is crazy AF.
Don't forget, in Deadpool 3 he will be waving hello in the MCU AND talk about all the other timelines.
I don't think the timeline for X-men is quite as confusing as you think.
Days of Future Past didn't retcon everything from the original timeline, it just prevented the Sentinel program from gaining traction. Everything else probably still happened.
At the end of the past portion of DOFP, Logan was hurled into the water, where he was picked up by the Weapon X program, and setting everything in motion to align with the original timeline, except where things are directly contradicted by other movies.
Timeline 1 to 2:
"Hay. Have you ever heard of wincest?"
Chaotic. Just chaotic. No neutral, good or evil. Just chaotic period.
Going on a more mild interpitation of Evil there Evil is Selfishness, Deadpool is Chaotic Evil. It just so happens that his Chaotic Evil intreasts align with being a Anti-hero
I was thinking Chaotic good at the beginning of the film, now imma watch the video
Someone pay Stuart 900 bucks to put deadpool in pokemon tabletop
I actually think it all depends on the writer/story/day of the week, sometimes he's chaotic neutral, sometimes even, fairly often he's straight up good aligned. I think this is why i'd argue he ultimately lines up as Chaotic Neutral. Because he so often flip flops between the two extremes. It's just rather than being a consistent Chaotic Neutral his alignment shifts alot thru the three chaotic alignments with rampant abandon as different aspects of his shattered mind take center stage, making him extreamly unpredictable. What's interesting about Deadpool is that he is one of the few morally ambiguous characters I actually like, not because he is "Huhu funny man", but because he's a tragic clown, a man who sometimes desperately wan't to do good, but is ultimately overcome and possessed by impulse, he's morally ambiguous done right in this regard, he isn't trying to pretend his evil acts are just, like so many other morally grey characters he's a man who is unable to control his impulse, except he and his writers know it.
Before video: CG...he's got a heart of gold.
Casual torture is CE... CN is disrupting others and sometimes antagonizing people for fun, but not to the extent of torturing or killing them without a good reason. I would also argue that killing can't be good, but can be Ln-Cn.
Starting at True Neutral because it's the best alignment.
Come at me.
Its ok not to like deadpool 2.
I did cause its a great laugh and his chaotic good won me over.
I...I really think the only way to describe Deadpool is "Chaotic Crazy." I mean...sometimes he quite honestly surprises himself with what he's doing...by which I mean ALL THREE VOICES IN HIS HEAD HAVE NO CLUE WHAT IS HAPPENING.
Xavier prolly just read wolves mind for his knowledge. On his own past memories
Deadpool is just plain Chaotic.
um the reason Charles knows about the future time line is that he probs read logan's mind a couple of times to modify events, its kinda odd but it could work
At least the X-Men timeline isn't
the Toho Godzilla movies timelines
How running someone over with a zamboni or torturing someone is chaotic neutral but stiffing someone on a tip is chaotic evil i dont know
deadpool was killing bad guys and wouldn't have done so if they weren't
stiffing dopinder on the bill is a purposely dick move.
@@TheLoadingCrew This statement is what proves the Karens of the 80's right. Too much violence in our movies desensitizes certain people.
I feel like your stance on lawful good is a bit too lax and that most of his LG actions should have been NG, but for the most part i agree. Still feel like CG should have been the end result
check the shrek video :) it explains how my alignment system works. also check mandalorian as a follow up :)
thank you for the comment :)
@@TheLoadingCrew Eh it was a good video but definitely sloppy by your other video's standards. You did have that bias going in with the second movie so it probably affected your ratings.
Before watching the video (and having only seen Deadpool 2): Chaotic Good. While he is a merc, he doesn't seem to be truly "evil", although perhaps Neutral Evil.
I thought Deadpool could break the forth wall, so he knows things but only so he can make a joke
i honestly think even comic deadpool is chaotic good
Minor personal differences in opinion, I would have started him fully chaotic neutral at the beginning of his story. And the scene where he is waiting to die in prison I would call lawful neutral rather than chaotic neutral as he is not intentionally stirring up any trouble and is simply keeping his head down and following rules.
I disagree on the starting alignment. I would argue he is Chaotic Good who is trying really really hard to come off as Chaotic Neutral. Why? He does not kill anyone, he donates his contract payment to charity, he could have killed his contract but chooses not to, he walked away from an underage girl who tries to flirt with him, and his deep past is alluded to later in the movie that he was special forces and seemed to get along with his squad mates. I don't see any evil there and I see a lot of good there.
mmm....ya know. that's a real good point
UMM is deadpool secerty chaotic good well atleast in the movie in the comic chaotic netural seems way more fair with a small tap of good but i will say he did touture which is chaotic evil
Dude you have to realize this is Deadpool were talking about. He basically takes the fourth wall and drives a wrecking ball through it.
yeah. but the rant was funnier
@theloadingcrew I just blew your timeline confusion wide open. Xavier does have memories from the previous timeline because he does a mind meld with himself so that new xavier has the confidence and power to continue the fight (woah maybe that's why he develops alzheimers as well, but that's super speculative)
oh dang. that's actually a really good theory!
Maybe Venessa could be like Chloe from Life is Strange. Deadpool keeps trying to save her which causes a whole lot of increasingly bad things. Eventually he has the choice to keep doing this or let her go.
Maybe chuck picked something from Logan's memories, he is psychic.
It was this moment i found out who all the charaters on his alignment chart it, chaotic neutral took me awhile
Professor X. Could know about the old time line because he can read Logins mind. Then as he gets older he starts confusing his memories and logins memorizes from the old time line.
Willfull torture is always evil, you give waaay too many neutral points
It's a quest to regain his looks need I say more
go watch the shrek video first
I agree with a lot of people saying a lot of the "Chaotic Neutral" moments should have been some type of Evil, but all that really changes in the final alignment is how far over the line between "Neutral Good" and "Chaotic Good" he is, he still rides that line, though.
In my opinion, Deadpool character is designed to be chaotic neutral. A person that acted purely on his mood with no good or evil values as his guideline. But still its a fictional character. People could rewrite it anytime and anyhow they want. It wont surprise me if one day Deadpool become a lawful good.
He's chaotic, just chaotic.
I still can't understand which character is depicted as chaotic neutral on the alignment chart
this mosaic style makes it unrecognizable
I show who it is in the broly video
Oh stop deadpool 2 rocked
I feel like you're giving him good points for murder too often
he killin bad guys tho. he's just doing it selfishly
@@TheLoadingCrew the argument can be made that killing humans is always evil, even if they're "bad guys". Also having selfish motivation and no apparent remorse don't help.
not sure if you have seen my shrek video but I explain alignment more specifically there. mandalorian is a good follow up
@@TheLoadingCrew i did watch that video, but it's been a while. I tend to think alignment is overrated anyway, so I don't mean to say my take is more right than yours. Also i only just realized you're the person who made the video so clearly my opinion isn't that significant
your opinion is valid. just because I slapped some nonsense together doesn't make my opinion more valid :) just trying to show my evidence is consistent
I have not watched a single x man movie and im not quite through the rant yet but wanted to say that in logan prof x kinda doesnt controll his powers that well. he is a world class mind reader meaning he COULD be accidentally remembering wolverines past and then filling in gaps to justify it
He's a lot more grounded in the movies and his character is a more traditional protagonist than in the comics, so yeah, being more on the good spectrum is expected when just looking at the movies.
Crisis on Infinite Redbulls is a fantastic name.
I agree with the original rating and the final designation of chaotic good, but I think Wade deserves a slightly more evil score. While the prisoner transport fight was necessary due to Cable’s arrival I don’t think DP knew he’d attack the transport in the middle of the city and deserves some evil points. The highway fight in the first movie was, I believe, was an act of neutral evil. He CHOSE to have a big ol’ punch/shoot-em-up on a highway in daytime, where and when there’s sure to be many drivers. I mean, legally speaking, if a non-combatant bystander died it’d absolutely count as depraved indifference murder. His actions in that fight cuts (literally) against the morality behind depraved-heart laws, he even took actions in order to ENSURE crashes. Furthermore, I personally always consider torture to be an evil act. Not that good characters/people can’t or even shouldn’t commit evil acts in the name of good causes, but I still consider it to be inflicting unnecessary pain on another person to further your goals.
On a side note: Why no good points for National Woman’s day? Submitting to a pegging for your girlfriend, especially since he CLEARLY wasn’t enjoying it, is the APOTHEOSIS of generous love. GIVE THAT MAN AT LEAST 5 POINTS!!!
Xavier referencing something only Logan should have memories of isn’t a plot hole. He’s a fucking telepath.
His cancer is the mutation and he then he got extra powerful wolverine powers
Please do a D&D alignment about the Punisher Netflix series! Frank Castle is such an interesting and compelling character!
to be fair, deadpool can get away with such references cuz his most modern incarnation is experienced in the art of meta refferences
Well the Fate series has the alignment just perfect for him: Chaotic Insane.
Hold up methodically torturing someone and finding hilarious humiliating and painful ways to kill someone is chaotic neutral but stiffing the cab ride is chaotic evil?
Calling it chaotic good, calling that before we go further into the video
I think he’s chaotic good he’s a good dude except for all the murder and other bad things but if we’re going on dnd alignment I think that fits chaotic good pretty well I don’t remember him killing very many innocent people he might have killed a few (explosions don’t count) he mostly seems to be doing bad things for good reasons which is basically how I describe chaotic good