What D&D Alignment is Broly (Ft. Masako X of Team Four Star)
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Today we look at Broly from Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball Super and determine what alignment he would be in Dungeons and Dragons
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Now there's a roller coaster of moral ambiguity.
Hyperdimension neptunia characters
When are you gonna release the DnD 5e version??
Broly's true alignment is Good Boi.
Well said.
in super
only super
@@mashed5560 well Broly from DBS is canon, DBZ Broly is not canon,
@@kuzurihanma5963 yeah ik but if you called z broly a good boy he'd probably eat you
They didn't do Bio Broly, so I will!
Bio Broly is a plant: Chaotic Plant.
Done.
Nope. He is a turd. a big old turd.
@@cavareenvius7886 so his aligment is chaotic turd
@@somebodywantscakesometimes4604 crappy Turd. That is the best I can offer
I think he is more of a:
Large plant, unaligned.
@@internetlurker1850 Fact.
I’d actually argue that most occasions between him and his father as lawful neutral, because he either does it out of fear of being electrocuted or out of sheer obligation. Broly respects Paragus because he is his father and nothing more, you can see this after he is called to kill the beast before they leave vampa. Without any hesitation, broly sends it flying with ease and nothing more, and that tells me this same scenario has played out plenty of times, so it’s not because he truly loves and cares for his father, but only because paragus IS his father and tells him to do so
It was a Vampa Beetle, and I make this statement because there’s only two native species on Vampa, Vampa Beetles and Vampa Beasts, Baa is the latter. I’m not going to argue the rest of your comment, but I think that Broly has some empathic powers, and that is why he reacted the way he did when he saw Vegeta, Broly was feeling Paragus’s anger and hate as if it was his own.
@@kuzurihanma5963 that is a neat detail I hadn’t noticed
@@thepriorstone4064 the one about the vampa beetle and vampa beasts? Or my theory about Broly, because that’s just my head canon, unless it’s explained otherwise by Toriyama or Toyotaru? And it makes sense when you remember that both Vegeta and Goku have displayed telekinesis, and Goku has shown telepathy to varying degrees.
I love how it’s basically a genetic anomaly among saiyans. Every saiyan has that gene to turn into the super saiyan, but it’s so rare to naturally use this form(thus the 1,000 year comments) but they all have that ability to activate it. Saiyans like Broly are just born strong enough to reach this level with little to no training
He's probably one of those mutants established in the Namek arc. You know, just like Freeza and the entire Ginyu Special Force.
If you wanted us to forget the first Broly Masako, shouldn’t have done the April Fool’s What If.
Without even watching the video:
Chaotic Neutral. An argument could be made for Chaotic Evil, but the reality is that OG Broly just does whatever the fuck he wants. He is driven by pure rage. Even his seeming enjoyment of making others suffer stems from the fact that he is just so overwhelmingly pissed the fuck off about everything.
I'd argue that is only true for his second movie outing. In the first movie he was only pissed about goku and spent a massive majority of it quiping and torturing others completely unrelated. You could say his sadism was related to his rage, but he didn't seem in any way mad when he crushed his father to death. Broly only really seems mad at goku and his transformation seems to have very little connected to his emotions, beyond the fact that he yelled while powering up. Sure paragus's story tries to connect his actions to his hatred and rage, but he doesn't actually even focus on goku while free instead just hurting whatever is in front of him. Second movie onward? probably just neutral evil, he loses all the sadism and just goes straight into random rage.
I knew it. Lina Inverse IS depicting the Chaotic Neutral part of the circle.
I'm kinda sad it wasn't Chandra Naalar, but I guess Lina fills the alignment better
Now I just need to find out who the True Neutral character is. I know the rest.
@@Horatio786 I am almost 100% sure that True Neutral is Haku from Naruto. The masked Ninja from Hidden Mist and the student / partner of Zabuza.
@@Horatio786 who is the lawful neutral character?
@@FlowerGirlFrowerPowe Judge Dredd
I don't think I've ever seen this chart not move so little.
4:31
I mean...if you think about it A LOT...from a psychological perspective it KINDA makes sense. A LOT of horrible and traumatic things happened to Broly that day, starting with the crying, before someone stabbed a dagger through him and he was left in a slag heap on an exploding planet. He probably associates Goku's crying with ALL of that, giving him a deep hatred of him.
Ssj Bread the ridiculous part is how broly remembers goku’s crying since he didn’t even look at goku
But like, could he realistically remember all that stuff happening? He seemed pretty young at the time, somewhere between a newborn and like 2-3 years. Unless sayian memory is way better than humans there should be no way he even remembers the planet he was born on, let alone his failed assassination attempt with an extremely thin link to Goku
@@theSparkyDub it would be in his subconscious regardless, and traumatic enough memories can last. I remember when my house burned down when I was less than a year old.
This has been my running theory for years, glad to see someone else bringing it up. Traumatic memories have a way of burning themselves into your brain one way or another and triggers for that memory can be all over the place.
Okay, but do you really think the writers thought of that?
I don't know who Broccoli is at all other than he's a really buff saiyan.
He screams a lot and beats up carrot boi good
He's basically like the Hulk of Saiyans.
That’s his character. THICC SAIYAN
You think he was an attempt to get kids to eat more broccoli?
Loved that movie, and frieza's act was so perfect. I'd love it if they gave the rest of the movies the same treatment.
Not saying everyone has a heel face turn like broly, but the depth. Frieza shows us we can still have bad bad guys...
Japan said it so its canon.
Man, it was really jarring hearing my voice at the start of this, lmao. Great video!
lol it's really jarring to see the voice actor comment on my video! hahah thanks for the comment my dude
@@TheLoadingCrew Absolutely! D&D is one of my favorite pasttimes, and this series is very interesting! My voice was the last thing I expected to hear though lol
this week zuko should be coming out then next week is Dio Brando ^^
you killed it in the abridged. Good on ya mate.
Old Broly? Not evil chaotic but Insane Chaotic
Canon broly? Good chaotic
I don't think you understand alignments my guy
Bruh
you lost me when you called Super Broly "canon"
I walked out the door with "Good Chaotic" 💀
Hey, a suggestion for a character for analysis: solid snake
The two I would like to see is Nebula from Guardians of the Galaxy, and Billy from Shazam
SAME
Hes probably starts true neutral, ending in Chaotic Good
Akira talking to Broly: Just because you're bad guy. Doesn't mean you're a bad guy.
Paragus didn't buy a mind control thing from a merchant, he had it created.
Alright, you know what would be amazing? On the other end of the cartoon spectrum, try a character about as unlike Broli as you can get. Scrooge McDuck! I'd love to see your alignment thoughts on that greedy fowl.
I'd say lawful neutral, leaning a bit towards neutral good. He's proud to have accumulated his fortune through hard work and not more treacherous ways, thus I'd say he's lawful, but when he gets blinded by greed he'd be tempted to use more dirty tricks. He's too driven by greed to be completely good, but he's shown to really care about his family.
This brings joy to me I have been trying to make broly in dnd and now you have gave me this thank you
don't forget to check out the pathfinder PDF on the website ^^
@@TheLoadingCrew dnd
Do barbarian totem warrior, or use the new dnd book for saiyens
I like the idea of Broly being a Divine Soul/Berserker Barbarian
At this point, I truly believe that the only time I've ever seen that big purple dude punching Broly and NOT heard a rubber duck squeak put over it was when I saw the movie in the theater.
After this rewrite of Broly, he's now one of my favorite characters.
Broly has got to be my all-time fav DBZ character hands down, always has. I love how they especially fixed his back story to death but I gotta admit I prefer his old look to the new one.
"here's a pathfinder homebrew if you want a saiyan in your dnd game, a completely different system"
Jason Melton “completely” is a stretch, but I get what you mean. They do use the same alignment system.
@@GarthTheMighty sure but I'm not gonna use a class made for Pathfinder with DND because "the alignment system is the same"
"dnd campaign" flows better in a script than "tabletop campaign". I knew it was wrong when I wrote it but went with it anyway
Also, Pathfinder can easily be adapted for DnD 3.5.
I wonder if anyone noticed when goku was about to transform into super saiyan blue you can hear a little evil snicker from broly followed by a grin
God I half forgot how beautiful Dragon Ball Super: Broly is to look at. I love it’s art style so much.
Armor class 40 : the return
You know what i wanna see? "What D&D Alignment is Bardock" that is what i wanna see!
also, the original broly still has the more terrifying transformation, his body literally can't hold the power of the legendary form and explodes into it, i also kinda think the original paragas is better only because he didn't torture broly
I could imagine New brolys transformations are the result of his S-cells being at a higher count almost like anakin had in star wars had a really high mediclorian count.
Nice video man
Honestly, I personally disagree with Broly being the saiyan of prophecy being brilliant.
It's part of a bias of mine, but I find the concepts of prophecy/fate/destiny to be bullshit. It's why I like the fact that we had a Super Saiyan Bargain Sale, it was basically laughing at the idea of "Once every thousand years blablabla super saiyan blablabla pride"
Especially when you combine it with Freeza basically being a greek tragedy, how is fear of the legend ended up biting him in the ass.
That stuff loses some impact when they go "Oh no wait, the prophecy actually did come true, separate from the rest of the stuff"
see. I kinda like that. prophecy is a great tool when your characters interpret it wrong :D it's like an aversion of "one often meets his destiny on the road to avoid it". it's the characters wanting to achieve something they think is a benefit but instead release a flood gate of problems
@@TheLoadingCrew As a literary tool, they certainly can be great. It's mostly how they're treated in story that tends to be the stem of the problem.
Like, Self-fulfilling Prophecies vs Foregone Conclusions.
Well I admit Videl might of had that coming since she slapped Goten and made him cry, inadvertently triggering Broly to wake from his coma in the first place.
Classic Broly. Choatic* Neutral. This alignment literally means, said character can do what ever they want for whatever reason, or lack of reasons, they care. He is not good or evil and can go either way if he ever cares to.
Broly (Super) = Principled Neutral. This version of Broly is fundamentally a good guy but does not quite yet know how to be a good guy. Being "principled", he simply is his actual alignment with is neutral. This alignment is a function of his story and contingent on his relationship with Cheelai and Lemu.
*I know what I said. TTS 4 LIFE!
I appreciate that Slayers reference, it was my first anime as a kid, I'd love some videos on the main cast.
"Have fun Freeza!" was my favorite moment.
Think you would do an alignment video on a live action tv character? Like a kamen rider or power rangers
vote here
twitter.com/LoadingCrew/status/1259126520741838850?s=19
Lina Inverse, thanks Stuart
Taking a qoute from TFS "OH MY GOD HES SO. GODDAMN. COOL."
4:14 This backstory always irks me because it easily could've been less stupid if they just did this one simple rewrite: when Broly cries in response to Goku, his power should suddenly flare up and only then should the saiyans discover that his power level is a whopping 10,000, that way it makes King Vegeta trying to kill him more valid than just jealousy/stupidity and gives Broly a slightly more valid thing to blame Goku for
Looking good also Ki warrior for 5E? Excellent
Oh yeah! I forgot about the Japan-Mexico spat due to the screenings of DBS! But to be fair, Dragon Ball is practically worshipped by almost every millennial man in Mexico that an event like this would have naturally occurred. Apparently, a way Mexico fought the Cease and Desist from Toei was by having bars, strip clubs, and any similar place where watching sports on a tv outside your home would be normal, and announced it like it was a boxing match to get clients to come watch the finale
Havent even seen the video jet already loving this haha
Are we going to see Slayers stuff??? HELL YES!!
There is no Bio-Broly. Moving on.
It's nice to see prestige classes on a D&D video... even if it's for Pathfinder, 3.5 and 3rd deserve more acknowledgement than they get.
OH wait, a lina Alignment? I love anything Lina.
the REboot made Broly Awesome
So, the interesting thing about Broly’s Control Crown is that it’s seemingly a reflection of Sun Wukong’s own crown, which served a similar purpose.
good point!
I like the old brolys lssj personality
And now, for the other Broly! B)
Broly goad’s gohan and Goten into a beam/Ki clash, causing Goten to actually become a character and creates one the most wholesome and badass moments the “Son” family will ever have.
Chaotic good and Nat 20 scene -Stuart and/or masako in the bloopers, probably
hahahahahah! oh man, we should have
I wish we could see more of browly I would love to see his gentle giant's adventures with chely and lemo
I completely agree with Vageta, the original Broly’s backstory was so dumb lol 😂
Man do I miss Vic Broly. Fun video though.
I love that he can keep up with ssg
I'm assuming this is going to be both Z movie and Super movie versions I think Bio Broly is a different character it's been a long while since seen the Z Broly movies, I'm predicting Z is pretty Chaotic Natural because he's a pure berserker with very little character. Super Broly is probably going to be somewhere between the area of True Natural , Natural Good and Chaotic Natural. Super Broly grew up on a planet where he have to kill the wild life for food and stuff which is an Natural act. Befriends one of them witch is Natural Good, and is taught manners and how how to respect people by his father and tries his best to do so witch makes him a little Lawful Natural as he does what he is told.
Side note, I want to suggest doing a video on Ghost in the Shell's Major Motoko Kusanagi because I just go done watching SAC 2045 and was like hey that's a classic anime character a lot of people know and likes in a series all about human choices. Since the SAC series is well it's own series I can see that version of Motoko getting her own video. But I can see the 1995 movie, the ARISE OVA and the Live action movie being lumped together in one video. You could even try adding the Manga version.
mayonaise
@Mean Bob yeah good point I guess I was assuming he was in a blind berserk rage and wasn't responsible for his his actions. but if he knew what he was doing.
@Mean Bob Untrue, kind of. A chaotic neutral doesn't just kill people without motivation. If your going for the true expression of chaos sort of character, then the dice has to roll towards good some times. Its actually why in dnd demons are allowed to be chaotic neutral and, yet not neutral evil until pc special snowflakes and special exceptions by dm's for storylines got involved.
There's also meaning behind Broly. He represents the ideal Saiyan. Goku defeating him represents the new ideal of a good Saiyan overtaking the ideal of an old Saiyan.
Masakox should hella do a universe 13 campaign dnd 5e on his channel. With his story telling it would go hard.
Change step 2 to make him a bean and then it's perfect
I’ve heard theories that broly doesn’t actually hate goku for crying, but he has PTSD from everything that happened, such as getting stabbed, the planet getting blown up, and other things. And goku crying reminds him of that time, so he goes into pretty much attack mode when he sees goku. I thought that this was cool, and adds a lot more depth to broly.
maaaaaaan. that would be much better if it were true....too bad it isn't but PTSD triggering super saiyan. wow
Non-canon Broly: Chaotic Evil.
Canon Broly: Neutral. Just plain Neutral.
You know I thought I would hear "there is no fake namek moving on"
LOL unfortunately we couldn't fit it in
Hey, I was just wondering if you could anaylze Yami Yuugi/Atem from Yugioh. Specifically the manga, because whoooo, boy, this boy goes through some things. Thank you for all the amazing analysis and I hope you have a nice day.
Chaotic Swol
that gave me a chuckle lol
Jam lavis been bulking up
holy shit. this be crazy
Hi I’m a big fan of the d&d alignment videos I think they are cool and interesting and they’ve been helping me on my home brew campaigns and I was wondering if you could look into Better Call Saul and do an alignment Video on him Jimmy McGill (Saul Goodman).
it's getting very difficult for me to keep up doing long series for this. especially when it's a series I have no familiarity with. I'm having to delay john wick a full week because I had to research stuff for it. i've seen most of breaking bad but doing better call saul on top of it might take a while. the two longest parts of this are research and editing
Broly was only put in danger due to Cheelai... She may be less "toxic" then Paragus but at least he understood his son is so dangerous that he could destroy everything...
paragus also only saw Broly as a weapon and would keep him on a leash. I personally would like to have seen a redemption for him as well but he's still a plot device
1:45 Yo I fucking love Saint Seiya I wish TeamFourStar do an abridged series to that anime.
i'd like to point out that when goku first tried to talk broly down, broly actually looked like he was gaining some self awareness back(meaning he would've possibly stopped) before his rage took hold again
Technically speaking. In pathfinder terminology, which is the only system I'm familiar enough with the make such a guess. I'd say Broly is a True Primitive Barbarian with some sort of unique template.
His alignment is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
We talking DBZ Intel: 2 Dex: 5 Strength: 13 (Gains 2 strength and loses 1 intel per turn)
or DBS Intel: 4 Dex: 7 Strength: 20 (Gains 1 Intelligence after each turn)
YOU BROUGHT MASAKO THE MUFFIN MAN!!!!!!!!
he's actually an old mainstay on the channel. he was in our pathfinder campaign for a while
oh, thank you for telling me! That's really nice of you
OG Broly acts a lot like a D&D murder hobo.
BROLEH BROLEH BROLEH
HOW'D YOU GET SO STROWNG
YOUR POWAH LEVEL IS TWICE AS HIGH
AS YOUR SAIYAN HAIR IS LOWNG
i won't ever forget the first broly, he still kinda scares me because of how strong he was shown to be, super saiyan can affect him, cell felt the hits from super saiyan, then there's the second movie where the only thing that stopped him was trunks distracting broly in the last bit of the fight, bio broly if they hadn't gone the way they did it could've been better
Biobroly is chaotic evil end
the og broly and toriyama broly are basically different versions of a character
If that is true thank you Mexico
Z Broly movies are awesome.
True Neutral.
You should do D&D Alignment to Kratos (God of War) and Dante (Devil May Cry).
DND 5e already has a Qi Master subclass (basically), Sun Soul Monk.
Just grab a ring of flying and you're sorted.
Maybe some boots of haste too.
which is why I did pathfinder first
Saint Seiya Yeah that's my boy. Keep your dragon balls I'm grabbing me some Bronze Armor
I suggest Juan Johnny Rico from starship troopers the novel
Masako should try a dbz/dbs esc campaign he could even call it what if saiyans were in dnd/pathfinder personally I would give them a more well defined culture and an actual pantheon like yamoshi the god of all good saiyans or sadalis the first true saiyan, oninis god of war and conquest, pepsa goddess of family honor and hospitality, and finally brolis the first legendary super saiyan think of him like the guy before broly but hey if anyone else wants to expand the pantheon and culture be my guest
Nah nah see, what you guys don't understand is when Z Broly shows up, everyone in his presence are catching hands. The reason was because his less controlled state is being a menace and a bully. He WAS an obstacle. You all just skipped the good bits like him threatening the slave aliens and just cut to him blowing up the moon. While most of the stuff he does is chaotic evil (obviously. He is a villain from the 90s.) There is clear bias with y'all rushing through and later calling them "the bad Broly movies" Not even a "Nat 20" for him killing the fuckin sky when he transforms
If you don’t mind me asking, how’s the conversions for the Saiyan race and Ki Master Class for 5e coming along? I bought the original document awhile back and really liked it, so I’ve been hyped for awhile for the 5e one.
next time I do a DBZ video. i'll have it ready...I think I charged too little for this packet...I see most people charging 9.99 for theirs...and they're not very good...
@@TheLoadingCrew Honestly, I’d say you could pull off having it be expensive. Most I’ve seen like you said aren’t all too good. The best I’ve seen is one my friend made, and that was for a version of DnD’s gameplay entirely to fit DBZ, so I wouldn’t really count it.
I thought old broly hated goku because he saw his death at goku's hands in a vision as a baby wile next to baby goku
A history spanning over three years huh?
pretty sure I said 30
@@TheLoadingCrew I dont know.... it sounded like 3, and the auto generated captions said three.....and those NEVER lie XD
Original broly Definitely has ptsd of some sort
Being stabbed as a baby while having to listen to goku scream probably caused that. And the issues that'd stem from being shanked as a child. Alongside his legend anger issues and such.
Yeah this guy is a deeper character than most think because of oversimplification of his character and his motivations.
He's evil, but for more than one reason
He's literally a baby when he was stabbed. He wouldn't remember any of that by the time he was an adult. And you can't really convince anyone that a baby crying is a suitable motivation to hate someone. Like everyone says, if Broly needed to hate anyone, it should've been Vegeta
@@eryvac0074 fair. But anime alien logic
@@XaeXPK Goku didn't remember anything from when he was a baby, though. Why didn't Broly crying also give him PTSD, since he was crying, too
@@eryvac0074 we did see that kid goku's head trauma helped with him not remembering. As it quite litterally suppressed his Saiyan nature in both the anime and manga. And in the manga only rn(cause it hasnt been animated) the memory of his parents in the manga.
Which admittedly has it's issues cause goku is shown as a toddler before he's sent off and a baby when he gets to gohan. Though the point still stands
I hate how everyone just focuses on the crying thing but skips the stabbing, planet destruction, manipulation of his father, MIND CONTROLE by his father... and just goes "he upset because "WAH""
DBZ fans can accept a lot. I think they're mostly angry because it's the thing that defines his character so much. the other stuff is just a means to an end
@@TheLoadingCrew Agree to disagree, I feel (as a dbz fan) that everything ties to his char and mentality, first movie Broly was always sympathetic for me because of all that. And the second movie is him with a broken mind possibly from brain damage.
Z Hulk/Doomsday , Dbs Tarzan
When do you think you will be releasing the 5e conversion so i know to order it?
not for a bit. working on other things. just super busy all the time....i'll drop a video when I do
I still Love the Original Broly...
Came back from the Hercules video from comments... Still no idea who lawful neutral is.. If I had to guess, I would say the main Character from Dead Space?
Do one for Garou from one punch man
You should make a hollow knight dnd system.
Chaotic evil