Great video. Just to add - in order to prolong the life span of the axles use low ride height as standard. This has been added to the UI not long ago since they realized medium is killing them.
I picked up a 202 model X LR+ and upon delivery I had this issue. Fast forward 6 months and 3 SC visits, they deem it as “fixed” and normal. Looking to implement the lemon law at this point.
I had the vibration issues, which came from the driveshaft... they replace both left and right on my 2018 100D a few weeks ago and told me they have new shafts which are better. The vibrations are gone now. It seems they have a fix for it now.
Not sure, I had it done under warranty. I believe they said it normally would cost a $400-500, but I am not 100% if that was regarding the drive shafts or something else they fixed. Sorry I can’t be of more help.
@Paul Peelen So your car was pretty new if you got it fixed under warranty. Im looking to buy used modex X 2017-18 year model, so im worried since it will not have any warranty left
@@PerformanceY No, it is a 2018, but I bought it in the beginning of this year directly from Tesla; when buy a pre-owned from Tesla you get 1 year or 20.000km (which ever comes first) of warranty with the car. My car was manufactured September 2018 and first time registered 29 dec 2018.
@@PerformanceY I know you posted a while back. But, I just had to have the front half-axles on my 2017 Model X P100D replaced because the front end shuddering was bad on almost any acceleration. It started around 30K miles. I don't think I should have to pay for their engineering flaw on a car having a problem after that few miles. But, they charged me $2500. I won't be buying another Tesla.
My 2016 MS has had this problem since 26k miles now has 60k. Have taken it to SC 3 times and they say that it is normal. Can’t drive in std and apply more than 100kw of power for it to vibrate
Heads up on that low setting. Having my model x set to always low destroyed the inside tread on all four tires. The camber makes it so that most of the weight of the car is on the inside tread. So basically, your damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. What I have decided to do is, keep my car in chill mode and leave the suspension in standard. When and only when I want to have fun, I lower it for fast acceleration only.
I had this vibrating issue on my 2021 X Model (ludicrous) and I just had the haft shafts replaced on New Year's Eve at the Service Center. They handed me the keys back just as they were closing up for the holidays and told me all was well. Upon driving 60 miles back to my home on the highway, the unnerving vibrations were already back. I didn't even have 24 hours of peace with this extremely expensive vehicle before having to deal with the problem all over again. Like one of the questions asked below, is this a dangerous problem? Can my family drive this vehicle with this engineering defect and still be safe? I haven't heard of any accidents caused by this defect, but I don't want to be the first one.
This vid makes valid points, but the fix isn’t just axles, but also bearings and they have service bulletins for lower control arms (for certain years S/X) But take it back and let them know it’s still happening..
My old boss has a P90DL (2016 or 2017, can't remember). It has 8,900 miles (yes, less than 10k) on it and has this issue. She wants it fixed, so I'm hoping to get Tesla to repair it free, or at least at a discount.
Model Y had that since week one. They took it in and then said that they replaced axle but in records it shows only lubrication of shafts and a lug replaced. And year and a half later I see that one of rear tires is worn out. Could they have shifted alignment?
They may have mistaken the angle-vibration complex, as described here, as an axle/hub slip problem and lubricated the parts as per that break/fix scenario. But in no universe does that correct/mistaken procedure, or the material discussed in this video, alter alignment in some way as to prematurely wear tires with incorrect alignment… notwithstanding human-error-levels of “oopsieeee I fucked up A while fixing B” lol Seriously tho I’d guess you or your SO curbed a wheel or hit a New Jersey pothole before suspecting that. Doesn’t take much to wear a tire down over time.
@@EvolutionAutomotiveLLC I'm actually surprised the shaft angle is that much more than the S to cause a problem. After how many miles does this tend to show up?
I'm told Tesla has a new design for the Model X half shaft parts. If you are under warranty, a Tesla SC should replace both up front for free. If you expect to accelerate quickly, make sure you are in the LOWEST suspension setting as doing so limits the angle and reduces stress on the half shafts.
Team Balmert they aren’t good, but I don’t believe them to be dangerous. The vibrations accelerate wear on the components of the driveline, and there is the increased possibility of catastrophic failure, but I don’t believe it will cause issues with anything critical for safety (suspension, brakes, etc). It may break a motor mount or axle, but I truly don’t believe it will break anything necessary to keep the vehicle rolling down the road.
Thanks for explaining something so complex in a very simple layman’s way. Glad to stumble upon your video
The front axle is a design overlook? This is why engineering should come before tech
Great video. Just to add - in order to prolong the life span of the axles use low ride height as standard. This has been added to the UI not long ago since they realized medium is killing them.
Thank you, Evolution!
I have the same problem with my Tesla Model X Raven 2020 which is a month old and the service center wants to charge me.
I picked up a 202 model X LR+ and upon delivery I had this issue. Fast forward 6 months and 3 SC visits, they deem it as “fixed” and normal. Looking to implement the lemon law at this point.
Any luck with the lemon law? I have the same issue going on 4th visit
I had the vibration issues, which came from the driveshaft... they replace both left and right on my 2018 100D a few weeks ago and told me they have new shafts which are better. The vibrations are gone now. It seems they have a fix for it now.
How much did it cost to fix?
Not sure, I had it done under warranty. I believe they said it normally would cost a $400-500, but I am not 100% if that was regarding the drive shafts or something else they fixed. Sorry I can’t be of more help.
@Paul Peelen
So your car was pretty new if you got it fixed under warranty. Im looking to buy used modex X 2017-18 year model, so im worried since it will not have any warranty left
@@PerformanceY No, it is a 2018, but I bought it in the beginning of this year directly from Tesla; when buy a pre-owned from Tesla you get 1 year or 20.000km (which ever comes first) of warranty with the car. My car was manufactured September 2018 and first time registered 29 dec 2018.
@@PerformanceY I know you posted a while back. But, I just had to have the front half-axles on my 2017 Model X P100D replaced because the front end shuddering was bad on almost any acceleration. It started around 30K miles. I don't think I should have to pay for their engineering flaw on a car having a problem after that few miles. But, they charged me $2500. I won't be buying another Tesla.
I have this issues despite having my 2020 X LR+ set to always be in low. Is this something that replacing the CV would fix, at least temporarily?
My 2016 MS has had this problem since 26k miles now has 60k. Have taken it to SC 3 times and they say that it is normal. Can’t drive in std and apply more than 100kw of power for it to vibrate
@@precisionautotinting They replaced my half shaft and now just 3k miles later it's doing it again. I may take it back with the lemon law.
@@chadever87 let us know how’s turn out for you
Heads up on that low setting. Having my model x set to always low destroyed the inside tread on all four tires. The camber makes it so that most of the weight of the car is on the inside tread. So basically, your damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. What I have decided to do is, keep my car in chill mode and leave the suspension in standard. When and only when I want to have fun, I lower it for fast acceleration only.
@@chadever87 any update on this issue? were they able to fix it?
When accelerating I’m experiencing vibration and clunking noise coming from front on my Model S 2021 Dual Motor. I’m guessing this is to blame?
I had this vibrating issue on my 2021 X Model (ludicrous) and I just had the haft shafts replaced on New Year's Eve at the Service Center. They handed me the keys back just as they were closing up for the holidays and told me all was well. Upon driving 60 miles back to my home on the highway, the unnerving vibrations were already back. I didn't even have 24 hours of peace with this extremely expensive vehicle before having to deal with the problem all over again. Like one of the questions asked below, is this a dangerous problem? Can my family drive this vehicle with this engineering defect and still be safe? I haven't heard of any accidents caused by this defect, but I don't want to be the first one.
This vid makes valid points, but the fix isn’t just axles, but also bearings and they have service bulletins for lower control arms (for certain years S/X) But take it back and let them know it’s still happening..
Does this happen on the Model 3? And do the clicks eventually reoccur every 10,000 miles?
no
I bought lowering links for my Model X and adjustable camber arms for the front and back. I plan to install them as soon as I get my car.
did you? how is the experience?
they've been great. N2itive was the company.@@gutmanu123
Links on where to buy this stuff?
will it break eventually?
Expensive to fix?
My old boss has a P90DL (2016 or 2017, can't remember). It has 8,900 miles (yes, less than 10k) on it and has this issue. She wants it fixed, so I'm hoping to get Tesla to repair it free, or at least at a discount.
2018 X...2024 Aug - left front suspension squeaky noises on hot days...finally tesla replaced half drive shafts
Model Y had that since week one. They took it in and then said that they replaced axle but in records it shows only lubrication of shafts and a lug replaced. And year and a half later I see that one of rear tires is worn out. Could they have shifted alignment?
They may have mistaken the angle-vibration complex, as described here, as an axle/hub slip problem and lubricated the parts as per that break/fix scenario. But in no universe does that correct/mistaken procedure, or the material discussed in this video, alter alignment in some way as to prematurely wear tires with incorrect alignment… notwithstanding human-error-levels of “oopsieeee I fucked up A while fixing B” lol
Seriously tho I’d guess you or your SO curbed a wheel or hit a New Jersey pothole before suspecting that. Doesn’t take much to wear a tire down over time.
I have a model S When turning I have the CV joints clicking in a hard acceleration
Lower the suspension when doing hard acceleration.
JRP3 of course, but as the car ages, you will still have issues when it uploads the front suspension under hard acceleration.
@@EvolutionAutomotiveLLC I'm actually surprised the shaft angle is that much more than the S to cause a problem. After how many miles does this tend to show up?
JRP3 I haven’t seen consistency, and there doesn’t seem to be an average time. Some happen on brand new cars. Some don’t happen at all.
@@EvolutionAutomotiveLLC Wonder if adjustable suspension cars are more at risk? Or maybe just a quality control issue with the CV supply.
Does this affect performance or safety?
Im having to drive my model x at the lowest drive height to avoid the noise
I'm told Tesla has a new design for the Model X half shaft parts. If you are under warranty, a Tesla SC should replace both up front for free.
If you expect to accelerate quickly, make sure you are in the LOWEST suspension setting as doing so limits the angle and reduces stress on the half shafts.
real culprit is axle angle is off.. need to slam the suv.. suspension its design for model s but raise for model x lol obviously
Are these vibrations bad for the car?? Safety issue? Dangerous? Or no effect on car? Car remain safe? Nothing going to snap off? Ha...
Team Balmert they aren’t good, but I don’t believe them to be dangerous. The vibrations accelerate wear on the components of the driveline, and there is the increased possibility of catastrophic failure, but I don’t believe it will cause issues with anything critical for safety (suspension, brakes, etc). It may break a motor mount or axle, but I truly don’t believe it will break anything necessary to keep the vehicle rolling down the road.
I have this exact problem on my 2018 model X it’s like Chinese water torture
Completely wrong