076 - F-15E Strike Eagle
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2020
- 'F-15 Month' concludes with an in-depth look at the two-seat strike-fighter Eagle variant. Whereas the A-D models profess to not have a "pound for air-to-ground," the Boeing F-15E Strike Eagle was designed to sling mud from the get-go. And it does it exceedingly well!
On this episode, a F-15E pilot and WSO crew, Lieutenant Colonel Richard "TAC" Turner and Captain Mark "Smack" Smith, both active duty U.S. Air Force, tell us all about the mighty "Mud Hen" including how one scored an air-to-air kill with a laser-guided bomb. Read how the Strike Eagle and Super Hornet compare in this article:
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Bumper music by Jaime Lopez / announcements by Jim Hendershot. Artwork adapted from original photography by Rich Cooper. This episode produced by our friends at The Muscle Car Place Podcast Network. - Наука та технологія
Your tireless efforts and steadfast dedication to this podcast has somewhat saved a miserable month. I thank you for the all the hard work. Stay Safe!
Thanks, MrShado, will do!
The Mud Hen is my favorite variant of the F-15. Spent late nights 20 years ago flying the Jane’s F-15E! 😍
Rich Concepcion old school!!
I loved that sim as a kid.
I'm in the Jane's F-15 Club, too, Guys!
@@manuelgreil4306 386... Specifically the Intel 80386. Took over from the 80286. That, was after the 8088 and 8086.
I still play Jane's F15E
The F-111 replacement contest was called the Enhanced Tactical Fighter program which pitted an F-15E v the F-16XL!
I loved the F-16XL. That airframe would have been far superior for the USAF F-16 mission profiles and never need EFTs, while carrying a lot of ordnance in a more efficient manner. At the time, it didn't have the power to carry the weapons load like the F-15 did. I'm not sure what its turn rates were compared to the regular Viper, but it had better combat radius and payload, which are what the USAF really cares about more anyway.
Awesome Pod cast as always.
Thank you for your work !
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I beg you Razbam pls pls pls f15e
that's how you know that their module is gonna be good
i'm stationed at seymour-johnson as an avionics maintainer
proud to call these jets my own! it is an honor to work on them!
Thanks for what you do!
WSO seems like the perfect position for my personality. Honestly, I’d really dig that role
Get after it!
Thank you for your service 👍👍👍
Holy crap, I went to elementary school with Mark Smith for 3 years! Small world! We were only K-2nd grade but even back then, he was a stand out kid. He is living the dream that I couldnt since I'm color blind! Good job bud!
The most beautiful thing ever designed by man.
I like the Lisa Tronic 2000.
Just wait till we have realistic sex bots
ARIXANDRE bold statement!
@@EEEEEEE354 Hello! Lisa Tronic 2000.
After the F-14 😁
I worked with the WSO who hit the Hind. He was a character for sure and I remember one launch where he lowered his seat all the way down and basically disappeared in the backseat. He was joking around acting like he disappeared.
Thanks,great guests,show
As a prior 17 year -15E maintenance dude, good to see the strike getting a little love. We've been a part of almost every major combat event, deployed basically 24/7 since Oct '01.
And dude left out our drone kill...so we have 2. Same tail number has both ;) Yes, it was our drone...but so what...kill is a kill. :)
Great interview gents! The first Strike Eagle was a TF-15A (aka F-15B serial number 72-0291). I remember all this at Edwards from the time when they configured it. I think it was painted up in one of the European 1 or 2 paint schemes. The F-15C brought on the FAST packs, which were later called CFTs, and Iceland-based F-15C Fighter Intercepter Squadrons flew with the CFTs regularly due to the mission profile intercepting Bears over the North Atlantic. My dad did initial JDAM integration on the F-15E at Edwards, and my best friends' dad did propulsion on the F-15 Combined Test Force as well. I didn't know it for a long time, but there are different squadrons with different power plants in the Mud Hen, some having the F100-PW-229, while others have the PW-220. Strike Eagles have provided a substantial portion of the CAS in OEF and OIR, far more than the A-10A or C.
thank you for all that you do
You're welcome. 🤩
I meant to comment before, but while the US's versions of the F-15A-D don't act in air-to-ground, the Israelis have adapted it to be extremely good, and these are "normal F-15A-D, not the Strike Eagle which they also operate.
Also, there was something called "FASTpacks, or something like that, which were basically conformal fuel tanks, that also added various capabilities, depending on which "tank" was installed. Some could be used for air-to-ground, others could be "cargo carriers", and so on. While they ended up being cancelled for the US, Israel apparently adopted them, to some degree.
FASTpacks are used by all USAF F-15E, as mentioned in the interview at 32:10.
The initial FAST Pack concept never materialized beyond CFTs. There were plans for buddy-tankers, internal weapons, and reconnaissance pods that never saw the light of day. F-15C squadrons out of Iceland actually flew with CFTs regularly since they had to cover a lot of water over the Atlantic. They hung AIM-7Fs and Ms off of them IIRC, even as early as 1980.
@@LRRPFco52 at 34:40 TAC said that two bags of tanks are less draggier than CFTs. Is taht the reason why F-15Cs dont usually cary FAST packs?
@@Anderson_Hwang You can't jettison CFTs and the CFTs provide 12 additional weapons stations for the Mudhen.
Because of area ruling, the CFTs limit some of the supersonic weapons employment and BVR evasive tactics that are the Grey Eagle's bread and butter as well. It's more difficult to accelerate through Mach with CFTs.
@@LRRPFco52 Thanks for the answer
Btw, are the pylons on the CFTs removable?
Cuz in every Strike Eagle photo, theres always pylons attached to the CFT even if they're not carrying any ordnance
Great episode!
I've heard that F-15E Strike Eagles have actually done more CAS missions in Afghanistan than A-10s, I'm not sure if this statement is completely true or not, but nevertheless, Eagle drivers are the heroes!
It's true. A-10 can't get to the fight fast enough, especially emergency CAS or last-minute changes to the calls, but there are a lot of platforms available for CAS at any given time, including MQ-9 Reapers, which are another heavy-lifter in the CAS mix.
You know what they say, "never let the truth get in the way of a good story."
Lack of targetting pods and precision weapons are the main reasons why Warthogs didnt participate as much as Strike Eagles in Afghanistan
Especially in the early 2000s where most of the missions are conducted by JSOC and SOCOM during nightime, F-15E’s LANTIRN pod make them much better for CAS during nightime.
After A-10s have upgraded to the C version, that’s when they start kicking Taliban’s butts real hard
@@Anderson_Hwang A-10C is best, most capable A-10. It could really use more powerful motors like the Su-25 has to up its time-to-TGT rates, climb rate, and minimum take-off distance with stores. The helmet-slaved Sniper or Litening pod, night-capable, data-linked Warthog with SDBs and GBU-12s is a different airplane.
As an Infantryman, would prefer A-10C, but will take what we can get. Even had a B-1 do CAS for us in Afghanistan.
working on getting my Licenses and I must say.. I'm pumped to find this podcast. my pops served in the AF. So proud of him.
Cool. Welcome, Andrew.
Great stuff man , hearing these stories is just cool always had deep interest as becoming a fighter pilot just never made that happen alot of regrets but you live and learn. The podcasts are very uplifting hearing this from great Americans especially as this time in our country. Keep up the great work.
For sure.
Thanks for this, this is keeping me sane in the isolation.
You're welcome, Rob. That's the hope.
As always Jello, a great podcast and I love how they came up with the E variant for this bird. I also can't wait for It to come into DCS I'll be all over It and referfering back to this for notes ;)
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Popping a chopper with a bomb - just when you think the Strike couldn't get any cooler !
Keep giving it heaps, Anonymous! Powerful stuff.
Awsome as always, great interview, keep up the fantastic content.
Thanks, Eric. 👍
Great show BTW! Congrats
Thanks. 😎
Y’alls intos are getting better and better! I really felt the hype this time
Thanks, B_C!
The Fighter Pilot Podcast haha no problem
It’s amazing how old this thing is in terms of technology that changes so much every year. Yet it’s still so effective.
I agree. It should be easier to upgrade the avionics etc.
Love the intro love the music love the show Awesome.
Cannot wait for this plane I'm DCS! We are so close!
AP was here. Awesome show
This is was great.
Just with your conversation about “passing the time” on a cross country at 12min, I remember a long flight back from NTC with a young captain and having that same kind of 80s rock moment. I managed to find an AM radio station with the ADF playing classic rock and it was a great 30-40 min of radio reception to break up a long flight
It's the little things, ya know? 😎
Great work as always Jello!
Thanks, John.
Crazy, Chaotic, and Uncertain sums up the current coronavirus situation pretty well!
Wish I could like this a 1000 times!
You can here! www.patreon.com/ftrpltpdcst
DMS upgrades were in the late 90s but yes the cartridge is old and antiquated considering whats available today. For the times and what was used prior it was an amazing upgrade.
We actually have 2 other strike eagles here at lakenheath as of recently with air to air drone kills (: acft 97-219, and 96-135
It is amazing
Awesome bird!
Loved being a WSO/EWO in the AF.
They sound like a good crew.
Of course the Strike is so good, it's only based off the best flight capable platform known to man at the time!
would be like to hear a OH58D Kiowa Pilot
I heard Red Flag Alaska is cancelled due to covid 19 too. Right gonna sit back with my coffee and check this out. I live in England not far from RAF Lakenheath so really excited about this. Love the show
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When you refill mid air can you fill the drop tanks too?
Yes.
If I had to choose between F14 TC or F15E I would go with the F15E. The cockpit is just awesome. Way better than F14 cockpit
Love the podcast. Had a big smile tonight. The call from St. Louis mo.
Long time listener first time caller!
Iam from Hillsboro mo. Lol B&T
Jello, The South Korean variant of the F-15E plays a staring role in the South Korean movie "R2B: Return to Base", its actually a pretty entertaining movie
Only recently became aware of it--may have to check it out!
It's a F-15K then huh
1:05:50 that jet is tail number 487 aka "Lucky", assigned to the world's greatest fighter squadron, and The World's Leading MiG Killers (218.5 to date): The 335th FS Chiefs. That jet also is the highest hour Strike Eagle with 13-14000ish hrs, and her left engine oil pressure tends to be lower than her right, but still well within limits.
Wampum!
I think these are so kool. Strike Eagle..
Hi may I ask, is there an episode talking about GCI? (Ground Control Interception) Well sure its not a fighter pilot position but don't they somehow help each other? Just curious. Also hi from Malaysia! 😄
Not yet. This is as close as we've come to that:
ua-cam.com/video/D7qkP_wF0cw/v-deo.html
These are so great to listen to man....thanks screw who ever thumbed down
(Probably the pilot of that helicopter that got bombed.)
Talk about improvise adapt and over come hey lol thank you for your service sir. Keep up the honest accurate work. Peace....somewhere
I'm Only 10min in and Thank You!!! I'm going to Finish my Power Plant FAA Exams and finally my cert. Then Get my Wings!+! 🦅
I absolutely love your podcast but I have a one question does the f-15e have a similar mission to the a-10 because when one of the guests said “it’s not about us, it’s about the 18 year old on th ground with a gun.” The reminded me from when the pilot from the a-10 episode said the same thing. I love your podcast and the strike Eagle
Air Force 1 the Strike Eagle is a multi-role fighter, and one of those roles is Close Air Support, which is the primary mission of the A-10. So that’s where the overlap is, and why they’d say similar things. The Hornet and Viper pilots would probably the same thing since they both perform CAS as well.
Tac and Smack, I like it
But not forgotten! MO 12/76-1/82 Big D Bomb Nav.
Ps. Five pound lunch box? Just think of the F-111F tape load.
Putting warheads on foreheads for many years to come...best jet in the Air Force
That lunch box is the keys to the fighter jet 😉
Top 👍👍
That Hind kill is straight out of Hollywood..❤️❤️❤️
Let's hope someone in Tinseltown takes note!
@@FighterPilotPodcast well I believe with DCS and CGI if we have some sponsors to do a movie. Why not....
Yes! Diversions are good! Have they ever done A2A F15E vs. F35?
I'm sure they have somewhere, but I'm not familiar with the results.
They specifically have done several tactical exploitation exercises generally associated with Red Flag or in the Nevada Test Range areas with the F-15E vs F-22 and F-35, since the F-15E has advanced FLIR that can be used to attempt to detect airborne targets. From my understanding, the IR signature reduction is so superb on the F-22 and F-35, and F-22 and F-35 sensors are so omniscient, that they are watching anybody from way out anyway, while the F-15E is still a target throughout these scenarioss. The Strike Eagle folks that have done it can't share details of course, but their general response is that they would have been dead long before they knew anyone was out there every time. The DAS and EOTS on the F-35 is pretty game-changing, especially since it's fused with the AESA and about 2 dozen RF antennae distributed throughout the F-35's skin.
One of the main concerns has been threat IR system detection ranges, so they're always gaming that angle as A2A IRST sensors evolve. Most of the discussions I've seen promoting threat IRST or competitor IRST systems assume a standard 4th Gen fighter IR signature, not taking into account the extensive and impressive IR sig reduction measures incorporated in 5th Gen fighters. If you ignore the RF reduction for a bit and start to look closely at the Raptor and JSF, they spent about as much effort in that department as well, with full systems integration dealing with that spectrum. The exhaust on both fighters is covered by a very high volume stream of cold air, for starters. The F-35 has heat exchangers built into the initial fan stages of the F135 motor as well, and some pretty ingenious things have been done with cooling, heat mitigation, and thermal signature management that I overlooked for years.
@@LRRPFco52 Cool! T.Y. I like that we have operational awareness from a distance in F22 and F35. I remember when the Russian 'Meatball' IR sensor first showed up on their fighters. That thing must have ruffled some feathers...
@@bartofilms We had IRSTs, TISEOs, and TCS on several fighters dating way back, including the F-101B Voodoo, F-106A (retractable), and the F-4C/D/E. F-4C/D had TISEO under the radome, whereas they put one on the port wing leading edge just above the stores pylon on the F-4E since the M61 Vulcan took the space away from the chin-mounted TISEO. Many F-14As got the TCS, but not all. Most/all of these were radar-slaved so you could get a visual ID from longer range once the TGT came down the radar scope to within a certain distance. F-15A pilots who converted from the F-4E started mounting rifle scopes to the sides of their HUDs, and bore-sighted the rifle scopes on the ground using the boresight symbol in the HUD to zero the scope to, so they would have a reference point for scanning the sky in that area after clinging the Target Designate box with the boresight cross. When the IRST showed up on the MiG-29, it was reminiscent mostly of the 1950s/1960s F-101 and F-106 arrangement on top of the nose just in front of the wind screen. The F-15's APG-63 had some game-changing PID capabilities already in the 1970s that are still tightly-guarded, and it was only upgraded and made more capable over the years. The latest AESA version of the APG-63 is an entirely different animal. F-22 and F-35 have things in another generation ahead of that.
@@bartofilms Same thing for the Helmet-Mounted Sight. That started as a US Navy F-4B Visual Target Acquisition System (VTAS) and AIM-9G Sidewinder Expanded Acquisition Mode (SEAM) in the late 1960s/early 1970s. Russians take credit for it, even though they copied the Honeywell VTAS avionics components down to the shape of the box that was meant to fit inside the F-4B's avionics bay.
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And, if we are very fortunate - we will soon have a DCS F-15E ....
1:02 I’m obsessed with this music. I’ve searched Jaime Lopez but haven’t found anything other than some Latin stuff. Anyone know of any place to find Jaime’s music, or this song specifically?
Email the show and I'll connect you with him.
@@FighterPilotPodcast wow thanks so much for the rapid response. Email sent!
@@NickYoung22 received. Will respond soonest.
You should have various ground crew types on. Be a take that most have never heard.
I’m not a pilot, I do wonder if the planes flown wings folded, do you add flaps to provide the missing lift?
Flaps and/or thrust.
How come this episode is released here, but not as a podcast, or avalible on the FPP homepage? I much prefere to listen while out on a walk to listening here on youtube. edit: Spelling.
We released the episode early on UA-cam. It will be out as scheduled on March 23rd.
Kind of related to F15. After the F4 Phantom it seemed the canopies of modern fighters provided great visibility. Now the F35 seems to have limited visibility. Thoughts?
Limited how?
I've never sat in an F-35 but there is a lot more sensor fusion in the latest & future jets. For example, you can have the camera feed from the bottom of the aircraft projected onto your visor so it feels like you are staring straight through your aircraft.
@@RKW1138 Okay, but I don't see how that relates to limited canopy visibility.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Hi Jello, not sure if you meant to respond to my comment. I was simply making the point to the original poster that the amount of polycarbonate is not as important now as it once was. From pictures of the F-35 the natural visibility looks great to me, similar to AV8B.
@@RKW1138 Oh, gotcha. Apologies. Saw this as a stand alone thread. No worries!
I live across the street from NAF El Centro. The Blues performed earlier in the month for people who were willing to watch from a distance, like me. Great food and drink and GREAT, GREAT FLYING!!!
Sleep shall have to wait, cheers Jello!
Seahorse enjoy!
Actually 62 of the F15S are going to be retrofitted to SA in house by alsalam aviation company
For notoriety in media, the F-15E is the signature aircraft of Ace Combat 6.
Good to know. 👍
Blue Tornado was a movie about the Tornado starring actor, Dirk Benedict. Remember Face, of The A-Team, the ‘80s TV show?
I do indeed!
Wasn't Dirk Benedict also the actor who played Starbuck in the original Battlestar Galactica?
Wow. That email was just outstanding. CW Lemoine has a You Tube channel and that's all he talks about.Never give up.
Maybe not in hollywood ... our ENEMY certainly knows of, respects and fears the F-15x
We're they talking about F-15E version equipped with F100-PW-22 engines with regards of 1.6 Mach performance limit?
Maybe someone else can weigh in here because I do not know.
Is the episode not showing up on anyone else’s podcatcher, or is it just me?
The episode aired early here on UA-cam. You should see it on all podcast apps now.
The Fighter Pilot Podcast roger that sir. It is indeed up. Thank you very much
GBU-15, AGM-130 with data link pod
Hmm, I was in the belief that a helicopter is an easy target for a radar because of the spinny thing on top. I guess in 1991 radars weren't yet as good as I assumed especially close to the ground.
EF-111 did not have flight controls for the EWO
Wait... Is that Spudnocker??
The most badass name for the Eagle is the Slam Eagle.
How do you guys evade incoming missiles fired at you ?
There are multiple different ways. One is to simply out run them, like the SR-71. Another is to decoy it. Our you can out-maneuver it.
...and of course, sometimes none of those work.
Ideally you just avoid it, stay outside of it's kinematic WEZ.
If pilot and WSO where the same, they would totaly be TIC-TAC
As an F-14 fan, hearing those so called experts say the "2 man crew" was a thing of the past.. apparently they were wrong. The F-14 was so far ahead of its time in fact that it would just now be coming into its own.
Funny the only time economy of scale is relevant to the military industrial complex is when they are selling huge trillion dollor boondoggles; their pitch always mentions huge cost savings over time and their reasoning: economy of scale. When they want to get rid of a successful program simply in need of upgrades "it's WAAAY too expensive" .
Everyone is, of course, entitled to their opinion.
The F-15K is prominent in the Korean film RTB
Listening from 2 years in the future. Yes COVID does finally start to fade, but it’s gonna take a while so get comfortable!
*CHAFF AND FLARES DISPENSING*
Jane's F-15 brought me here...
Seems odd that they have everything integrated except HARM... Strike Eagle would be an ideal SEAD platform, to my mind.
Perhaps they figure the F-16CJ has that covered.
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Please Video yourself. Please! "My uncle flew F-15s John "SOUP" Campbell. I always ask him for a story!!! So its great to have a story any time I want.
Jell-O, does the NAVY always take off the pylons on aircraft which are not used ? When is that done ?
No, quite the opposite--maintenance usually resists removing and reinstalling pylons because it's time consuming and things sometimes break or bend.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Can you share examples of what situations necessitate a pylon removal?
@@samivwow The only situation I know of that "necessitates" pylon removal is induction into major overhaul. Day-to-day, the only reason to take them down or put them up is based on operational and maintenance needs / desires.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Thank you for the answers!
I mean, why fly the 15 when you've flown the Tomcat?
Few have flown both.
What a story haha . A-A kill with a GBU10
Didn't mention the F-15J of the Japanese Air Self Defense Force. Also, the Royal Australian Air Force just retired their F-111s only 9 years ago in 2010, where as the final USAF versions (EF-111A) were sent to the boneyard in 1998.
The F-15J is a single-seat fighter. This episode is about the F-15E Strike Eagle.
Lord. These guys are stiff
My SU 34 FULLBACK is similar to F15 E STRIKE EAGLE
Captain Marvel wasn't entirely good press for the F-15. Didn't insult F-15s, but it wasn't a great movie.
Crew chiefs made it happen🤟
Which part?
The Fighter Pilot Podcast The part where the jets fly.
@@wyattcresswell2499 Okay, sure. And so did the fuelers, airfield management, ops, safety, tax payers... it takes the whole team, no dispute there.
Dude... I don't understand how any pilot on earth doesn't see F-15E as the absolute cream of the crop. F-22/35 are far slower, A-10C carries the same amount of weapons and is WAAAAY slower... F-15E has to be the best plane on earth. You get to fly an F-15 and also protect your brothers and sisters on the ground... I'm not a pilot but F-15E could run rings around F-16/18/117/A-10/F-35. You're the luckiest men on earth, sirs.
F-22 is absolutely faster in *any* relevant configuration. F-35 might even be too, though with less payload.
F-22 and F-35 are faster than the Mud Hen combat configured for all. F-35 carries a typical load that the F-15E carried in Desert Storm on opening night, then can carry a similar load externally if needed while not needing External Tanks. The F-15E can't reach Mach 1.6 with weapons, only CFTs. F-35A can do 1.6 with multiple internal weapons, including 2x 2000lb JDAMs. Even with external tanks, the F-16 will run rings around the F-15E. If you removed the CFTs from a PW-229 equipped F-15E, then it would be an absolute beast in A2A, but they never fly them that way other than Functional Check Flights after phase level maintenance. The F-15E has its place, but remember it's a pretty old aircraft conceptualized in the late 1970s, built in the late 1980s-1990s.
All aircraft have their niche, The Rocinante. But personal presences are always valid!
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@@FighterPilotPodcast hahansorry I was so enthusiastic, I was just so jazzed up on the Strike Eagle the other night hahah