It Begins - Exploring The Parts Pile And Preparing For Shipping - Detomaso Pantera

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  • @Number27
    @Number27  Рік тому +25

    Join me LIVE Wednesday 22 Nov - 8PM GMT - to discuss my Pantera project in more detail and to find out more about the future direction of the channel.. ua-cam.com/users/liveYBvlqqDUgsw

    • @theblackhand6485
      @theblackhand6485 Рік тому +2

      'Future direction of the channel'...? Well what about two channels? This one where you test all rarities. And one just for the Panthera: 'Number27 - The Rebirth of the Panthera DeTomaso.'

    • @theblackhand6485
      @theblackhand6485 Рік тому +1

      'Future direction of the channel'...? Well what about two channels? This one where you test all rarities. And one just for the Panthera: 'Number27 - The Rebirth of the Panthera DeTomaso.'

    • @aussieausdeutschland4245
      @aussieausdeutschland4245 Рік тому +1

      £20,000 all up I reckon Jack. Because come on we all know what happens when we say "it'll only take X amount $$$" to finish it...
      Yeah riiiigght double that 😂😂😂😂

    • @thefleecer3673
      @thefleecer3673 Рік тому

      Please don't radically change your channel its great. The variety between resto projects and test drives is great!😎👍

    • @twcmaker
      @twcmaker Рік тому

      How about another channel then. Number 27 and number 27/2. You could easily get 60-70 of subs to follow the second channel. Double your money in a year and get an assistant to help edit.

  • @GTAjedi
    @GTAjedi Рік тому +72

    Chuck and Mike are real troopers.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому +15

      Absolute legends, really I could not have asked for more. I'm actually quite embarrassed about how much these guys have helped me out!!

    • @MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik
      @MilosBrajkovic-rc3ik Рік тому +3

      Esprit de Corps!

    • @davidthomas1424
      @davidthomas1424 Рік тому +1

      What amazes me most about the US, is just how built up and congested everything is. Just like the DTP's engine bay, there's just no space anywhere! 😉 👍

    • @JonathanWiese-o9w
      @JonathanWiese-o9w Рік тому +2

      You mean troupers! Not troopers. Common mistake.

    • @GTAjedi
      @GTAjedi Рік тому +3

      ​@@JonathanWiese-o9w a reliable and uncomplaining person.
      "he was a real trooper for going on while he was feeling less than his best". So no, I mean troopers.

  • @Czechbound
    @Czechbound Рік тому +59

    What friendly fellas ! Americans really are so welcoming and generous with their hospitality. That looks like a great trip ! Wouldn't it be great that when the project is finished, Chuck and Mike could visit you in the UK for the big unveiling !

    • @ThomasDoubting5
      @ThomasDoubting5 Рік тому +2

      Some are , but not all Americans are like them .

    • @mrkd4126
      @mrkd4126 11 місяців тому +3

      @@ThomasDoubting5 You mean .. like every other country.

    • @thepixalator6758
      @thepixalator6758 11 місяців тому

      They'll be getting a bung off the old dear thats why!

    • @Czechbound
      @Czechbound 11 місяців тому

      @@thepixalator6758 I don't follow. Explain "bung" and "old dear" please

    • @ThomasDoubting5
      @ThomasDoubting5 11 місяців тому

      @@mrkd4126 no mean like every country .

  • @chriswilkinson1991
    @chriswilkinson1991 Рік тому +31

    I see this turning into a bigger project than first thought

    • @throwback19841
      @throwback19841 Рік тому +4

      literally all car projects ever

    • @hondaman6918
      @hondaman6918 Рік тому +2

      But he won’t get killed with hi priced parts like he would with Ferrari or Lamborghini

  • @jimmypratt6450
    @jimmypratt6450 Рік тому +28

    We all know the build go far beyond the calculated costs but thats just the way it is . Good luck Jack .

  • @clivemillington8452
    @clivemillington8452 Рік тому +1

    Gonna luv this build , as I always luv the Pantera 👍👍👍

  • @grahamtipping4891
    @grahamtipping4891 Рік тому +19

    Have to say although I enjoy your car reviews it's a joy to look forward to another interesting car re build/restore.

    • @twcmaker
      @twcmaker Рік тому

      Me too. Too much flipping on UA-cam lately and we want to see the real nitty gritty.

  • @andrewgurney6019
    @andrewgurney6019 Рік тому +14

    Gutted to see the Influenzo go but dam this is going to be some amazing project, what a lovely car.

  • @barryhall7
    @barryhall7 Рік тому +3

    Whatever was under the paint has de gassed.
    This should be a great series 👍🏻

  • @brendangeraghty8865
    @brendangeraghty8865 Рік тому +4

    I love Panteras. The best place for 351 Clevo parts, mods etc is Australia, the Falcon GT and GTHO came with them. Oiling issues were the big problems racers ran into. There are lots of GT/GTHO shops that offer parts in Aussie to check out.

  • @peterwarner8541
    @peterwarner8541 Рік тому +1

    New to the channel but great car. Make sure that the transporters/handlers take photos and video of the car at each step of the journey. I bought my defender back to the UK from NY with no damage and then the guy who delivered it to me scraped it 100 yards from the house….

  • @owenmorgan857
    @owenmorgan857 Рік тому +2

    Amazing anywhere you go, car guys become friends

  • @FxtrotOscrRmeoDelta
    @FxtrotOscrRmeoDelta 11 місяців тому +1

    Be careful with the 1/4 windows; they are very expensive. Also, take care of that trunk insert, as they are in rare supply in that good of condition.
    Wilkinson Pantera, Pantera parts connection, PI Motorsports, and Hall Pantera should have most of what you need.
    Also, should you need deck lid lifts. SACHS SG314005 is the part number for some, which last spring were about 10 dollars compared to the 200 dollars most places charge.
    My dad has a 73 we just finished refreshing the trim and body panels and painted them in Bullitt Dark Highland Green.
    Good luck to you.

  • @gazzafloss
    @gazzafloss Рік тому +10

    On the move Jack,
    I'm pretty sure that the preparation for paint and the paint application has not been done real well.
    The large section inside the engine bay that's peeling is only "tip of the iceberg" stuff. Paint applied in way too heavy coats, this is probably the same reason for the wheel arch surface cracks shown in your first video. Big project, I hope it doesn't break the bank.

  • @benzinapaul7416
    @benzinapaul7416 Рік тому +7

    Glad you've got a Pantera, I remember going to the DTOC track days back in the late 80s and 90s with my old man and the De Tomaso owners were such a friendly bunch as you are discovering with the kind help of these 2 gents in the US.

  • @jeffreyoldham55
    @jeffreyoldham55 Рік тому +8

    Congratulations on your acquisition! You must have really charmed Anita to convince her to release the Pantera to you, and allow it to travel outside of the States. Seeing you beside it outside the garage, I thought: "Now *that's* a proper Jack car!". Your Black Panther is sure to produce loads of great content, and shall be a perfect fit for your garage, and your channel. Bon voyage! See you back home.

  • @RecycledSoul
    @RecycledSoul 2 місяці тому

    That's my dreamcar from that era. I'd love a restomodded Pantera with updated suspension and an engine pushing 700bhp. That seems to be the sweet spot where usable horsepower meets insanity. I love Panteras so much❤

  • @mwaynem
    @mwaynem Рік тому

    One of the most beautiful cars ever built. Not best built or most reliable but definitely beautiful.

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 Рік тому +1

    What lovely people to know, and hope friends for life Jack. Great video, but I kinda like the wheels.

  • @nigeljames1109
    @nigeljames1109 Рік тому +3

    Great project. If the gearbox needs attention Hardy Engineering in Leatherhead used to look after the ZF 5DS 25/2, which as you probably know is what yours is, that I raced in an Chevvy engined Ultima some years ago. Also may I suggest that you do not run the car with chrome plated suspension springs, a very American thing, as they can snap because of hydrogen embrittlement.

  • @Wolfson47
    @Wolfson47 Рік тому +14

    Love these stories where an "average guy," relying on his own skill and gumption, creates something as desirable as anything a rich man can write a check to own.

  • @desmondmccarthy6408
    @desmondmccarthy6408 Рік тому +1

    You've got to love American car culture, beautiful garages with all the toys, guys who can pull and rebuild engines, spares and upgrades galore. Over here if you can change a wheel you're in the top 2%!!!

  • @resnonverba137
    @resnonverba137 Рік тому +2

    Partly inspired by your channel, I have bought a brand new, fully assembled and warranted car. Thanks Jack!

  • @drewmartinezart
    @drewmartinezart Рік тому +7

    Looking forward to seeing it on the road. I always liked the early Pantera's simple clean design.

  • @malcholden5357
    @malcholden5357 11 місяців тому

    Looking forward to it Jack. Glad you’ve got another exotic project.

  • @SkotiM
    @SkotiM Рік тому

    Its lovely to see two such nice men giving up their time an knowledge to help Jack.

  • @jkk244
    @jkk244 Рік тому

    I am old enough to remember riding my bicycle past a Lincoln/Mercury dealer about 1972 and seeing a brand new Pantera sitting on the showroom floor amongst the chrome-laden big Lincolns and huge Mercury sedans. The Pantera looked so out of place next to those other cars. But those Lincoln/Mercury dealers must have been so happy to have some that exotic to sell (and to generate showroom traffic too!). Too bad the experiment didn’t last longer.

  • @ianhoyle8459
    @ianhoyle8459 Рік тому +1

    Incredible work shop facility, I wish I could walk around my garage, car, bike, like that!

  • @johanbjork1650
    @johanbjork1650 Рік тому +6

    Good Luck with the project.
    In my humble opinion: the Pantera is the original roadgoing version of the GT40.
    All the best with the channel. Looking forward to every episode.

  • @dieterkutz9756
    @dieterkutz9756 Рік тому +2

    Funny to see you so excited about finding bolts at the hardware store. ACE Hardware is my go too, they have it ALL. Good luck

  • @itiejim
    @itiejim Рік тому +2

    Great project, love the car and what fantastic support from your American friends. Got to say though, that I reckon they've kindly underestimated what that will cost you to complete 🤔

  • @DGT73
    @DGT73 Рік тому +1

    Pleeeease get ITB’s, it will sound even more incredible and you’ll have stand-alone too!👌

  • @MrSimplesimon007
    @MrSimplesimon007 Рік тому

    You have two great mentors there Jack, jesus how many people wish their local store had a collection of nuts n bolts etc like that, and yes, you have alot to do, and will probably have issues, it's to be expected when you think

  • @jarrodmegraw6033
    @jarrodmegraw6033 Рік тому

    Absolutely beautiful car! The moment you first saw the car and realised it could be yours must have been one of those top 5 moments in your life. Congrats!! I am excited for you.

  • @matthewrooke386
    @matthewrooke386 Рік тому

    Absolutely loving this DeTomaso project, get a stroker kit for the 351cui engine to get a 427cui motor with 4x 2 barrel THROTTLE BODIES, that Le Mans spec gearbox deserves a muscular Le Mans type engine. 😊

  • @HEKTIC458
    @HEKTIC458 Рік тому

    These look absolutely stunning in black

  • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
    @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 Рік тому +6

    I think Chuck meant $12k without paint and I reckon it won't be far off.

    • @gldstone
      @gldstone Рік тому +1

      that's what I was thinking. I have no idea why except it always ends up costing over 2x what you thought😂

  • @FridgeProductionsLtd
    @FridgeProductionsLtd Рік тому +3

    Satin black "undercoat" could be UPOL Raptor. Popular in the US for a hard wearing truck bed paint, and used elsewhere. I did the underside of my Esprit with it, and chassis.

  • @anthonyknox1493
    @anthonyknox1493 Рік тому +1

    Looks like a stonechip/truckbed coating inside the engine bay; that would reject most paint coatings.

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool Рік тому +4

    What a car. You have some great friends there Jack.

  • @sainta2667
    @sainta2667 Рік тому

    Such a pleasure to see this Jack. Fun, real fun! Love this car!

  • @UberLummox
    @UberLummox Рік тому +1

    Very cool the gauge/radio panel is shaped like the T in DeTomaso.

  • @russellhammond4373
    @russellhammond4373 Рік тому

    Great friends are making the first stage of the project relatively easy. England here we come.

  • @marknelson8724
    @marknelson8724 Рік тому

    With that silhouette, and especially those door handles, the car reminds me of a Javelin from American Motors Company back in the 1970s.

  • @martinhogg5337
    @martinhogg5337 Рік тому +7

    Quite amazing project Jack! Looking forward to the series with that fantastic car.

  • @draincctv8659
    @draincctv8659 Рік тому +2

    Hats off to Mike & Chuck for their expertise & friendship in helping Jack with this most fantastic of projects. I'm pretty sure Mike has been on an episode of Jay Leno's Garage talking about Pantera's.

    • @576103
      @576103 Рік тому +3

      Yup, that’s me, nine years ago before I had to wear glasses… 🤓

    • @rallycrosscraig
      @rallycrosscraig Рік тому

      @@576103great to see you helping Jack this will be such an interesting project for us all to watch, and so nice the car has moved from a family who clearly loved that Pantera to someone who is going to give it the same love. Looking forward to next updates on this such a rare car in the U.K.

  • @knoxyish
    @knoxyish Рік тому +1

    i remember as a car mad kid of 16 going for a walk around the west end of London with a friend and seeing a pantera in black with 4 big exhausts hanging out the back ! this was1973 i still love the pantera and this will be in black when finished a stunning car well done jack cant wait to see the rebuild !

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому +2

      I can't wait to get it started!!

  • @edwinblank58
    @edwinblank58 Рік тому +1

    Very nice project car, good luck!

  • @Goc67
    @Goc67 Рік тому

    A dream car. I visited the light blue DeTomaso factory in Modena when working in Italy and helped a colleague to source some parts. They had a nice little show room of their racing cars from smaller formula 2 and 3 I believe. The factory looked rather dodgy though.

  • @MegaCountach
    @MegaCountach 6 місяців тому

    Beautiful car Jack! Cheers, Doug

  • @nigelbullock9039
    @nigelbullock9039 Рік тому

    Jack. Brilliant video. What a trip and a great project.

  • @willo300
    @willo300 7 місяців тому

    Looking forward to seeing how the restoration goes on this. I hope you bought those guys a couple of pints at least, very friendly helpful chaps they were!

  • @perjanuschas8050
    @perjanuschas8050 Рік тому

    I would recommend ANSA (Italian of course) mufflers. Nothing I've ever heard sounds as good. It's not extreme in any way, just very good and satisfying. Not at all noisy at cruise or normal driving, and creates the most wonderful roar at high rpm. A sound that if you could bottle it, it'd sell like hotcakes. Also drop the crap American intake and carburetor. Get real Webers, just for the sheer looks, if not to mention the absolutely spine tingling intake roar they make. As an alternative, get injection disguised as Weber carbs. Since the get air served the same way as the carbs, they sound much the same, but are easy to tune, and problem free since their electronically adjusted and computer controlled. A great restomod imhop

  • @backyardprojects9945
    @backyardprojects9945 Рік тому +1

    About the same time that this vid was posted, Hagerty posted the tear down of their Pantera engine project. Great for Pantera fans.

  • @vidfletch
    @vidfletch Рік тому +3

    Those odd paint areas have me worried. Have you gone round it all with a magnet???

  • @Vinttro
    @Vinttro Рік тому

    Wow, Jack this is going to take your Chanel to another level. We love it. All the best Vint-tro

  • @bigboy9693
    @bigboy9693 Рік тому +1

    A bigger project than you think as you should include repainting the car as what happened in the engine bay will happen else ware.

  • @glendonhorne7196
    @glendonhorne7196 Рік тому

    I certainly hope you sorted those two lovely fellas out with a few beers for all their help! Great stuff, looking forward to seeing your progress back home 👌🏼👍

  • @PeterG-m6p
    @PeterG-m6p Рік тому

    US fan. Great episode. Love the US connection. More importantly, love the featured vehicle. Long live hybrids.

  • @markbennett6658
    @markbennett6658 Рік тому +1

    It definitely needs painting again and probably taking back to bare metal. Hopefully the horrors beneath won’t be too bad once it’s stripped back!

  • @salamander5703
    @salamander5703 Рік тому +1

    Please be careful of that clutch. Maybe the friction plate wasn't well aligned but you should never need to use the bolts to pull up the gearbox or tighten one side when the other is still 1/2" or more away as at 3:48 onwards. Use a trolley jack to support the gearbox and if it doesn't slide nicely on, check the clutch plate is centralised and the bush or roller bearing between the crank and input shaft is right size and correctly installed - forcing the gearbox on when misaligned will damage it!!

  • @ciscoytube5352
    @ciscoytube5352 Рік тому

    So jealous. This looks like an amazing project.

  • @friederichgerlach9825
    @friederichgerlach9825 Рік тому

    Phantastic projekt! In Amerika they don't wash cars, they shower them in pain i always say. So don't worry about the paint as long as everything is rost free!

  • @anthonywatkins2783
    @anthonywatkins2783 Рік тому

    Really look forward to this restoration, lovely looking car . 👌👍

  • @kentmckean6795
    @kentmckean6795 Рік тому +4

    Not including paint, it's gonna be a lot closer to $20,000 USD.

  • @benjames6929
    @benjames6929 Рік тому +2

    Down the Rabbit hole you go!
    Top project though. Kudos ✌️

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому

      thanks..i'm sure there is much more missing than what's listed here...

    • @benjames6929
      @benjames6929 Рік тому

      @@Number27 there always will be more and more until, finally you break or are broke but left with one fine, bad ass pantera 👌🏼

  • @timwood7808
    @timwood7808 Рік тому

    Good luck, Jack. Really looking forward to following this 👌🏼

  • @ebahapo
    @ebahapo Рік тому +1

    If you think that the Influenzo was more trouble than it was worth, you’ll miss it after this custom Pantera. I propose nicknaming it Enojado DeTomaso.

  • @carlosbonilla1637
    @carlosbonilla1637 Рік тому

    Can’t wait for the “Pantera series” to begin. Well done.

  • @erwinzeeland9390
    @erwinzeeland9390 Рік тому

    Ever considered crowdfunding? I wouldn't be surprised. At least you've got me glued to your channel again.

  • @steffydog
    @steffydog Рік тому +1

    Better you than me, that sounds like a nightmare, I’ll happily watch and keep my fingers and toes crossed for you🤞

  • @jbar100
    @jbar100 Рік тому

    looks beautiful Jack only a little concerned you can steer the car thru the windshield until I realized you must be a God

  • @truebluemiata
    @truebluemiata Рік тому

    My "poster on the wall" childhood dream car! You could walk down to your local Lincoln Mercury deal, plunk your 10k 1970 dollars and buy the dream. A lot in those days but not far off from the Lincoln Continental luxo boat sitting next to it.

  • @kayerickatson4814
    @kayerickatson4814 Рік тому

    I’ve loved Number 27 since the get go, now I love it even more, I’m going to be glued to your channel as you build your Pantera! Wow, this is great stuff!

  • @f.k.3762
    @f.k.3762 Рік тому

    The car has wonderful lines. Looking forward to see the puzzle solved

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Рік тому +1

    Fun new series. Looking forward to the next episode. Keep up the good work.

  • @thethirdman225
    @thethirdman225 7 місяців тому

    Haha! Excellent choice of music, for those who know it!

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg7843 Рік тому

    Thank you for this video! It's very educational, and better than a lot of car restoration stuff on TV.

  • @2702simmo
    @2702simmo Рік тому

    Exciting times Jack
    Commercially I think you’ve struck gold with the Pantera and the content it will provide
    Lovely motor

  • @MarcosCodas
    @MarcosCodas Рік тому

    Still assembling his car for shipping but already wearing the shirt with the company logo. You really are one of us.

  • @dmcars147
    @dmcars147 Рік тому

    I guess $18K without paint...of course this is based on my own car resurrection fumbles! This should be a rewarding project, excited for you!!

  • @mariopizzamanmario8563
    @mariopizzamanmario8563 Рік тому +2

    Well, Ghia badges are Ghia badges, so you could just snatch some of an old Granada...

  • @65283impala
    @65283impala Рік тому +1

    Very nice car. I've seen a couple of Panteras here in Canada and I think they all had that matte black finish in the engine bay.

  • @Louie2309
    @Louie2309 Рік тому

    Looking at the cracking around the flares and the paint peeling in the engine bay, I needs to be stripped and painted again. Looks like a backyard spray job.

  • @philtucker1224
    @philtucker1224 Рік тому

    I had one as a Revell model back in the early 70s I just loved the name it is such a mouthful! 😁🙏

  • @philiptidmarsh
    @philiptidmarsh Рік тому

    It is going to be a great project with a fantastic car at the end of it. Those guys that helped you out with it all were brilliant and just shows that old cars do bring us together across the world !

  • @minissima570
    @minissima570 Рік тому

    Envy, Envy! That said, I'd go with EFI and throttle bodies. The sheer convenience and lack of fuss once installed and set up is worthwhile! And that doesn't stop original kit being reinstalled if wished ...

  • @Lumber_Jack
    @Lumber_Jack Рік тому

    Great video and great to see Chuck and Mike involved. It took a lot of work to piece things back together loosely but I bet it was an enjoyable project for you three. This car is well on the way back to glory.

  • @kelstra1997
    @kelstra1997 Рік тому +1

    I have no doubt that this will ultimately be a lovely car. The only thing I don't like is the colour. If it has to be repainted you can paint it any colour you like.

  • @davidhamilton82
    @davidhamilton82 Рік тому

    Fantastic video and story. So exciting 😊

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 Рік тому +1

    Congratulations again! Bet you can’t wait to get her home. Chuck and Mike were amazing - such helpful, kind chaps!

  • @rushinbought2937
    @rushinbought2937 Рік тому

    I agree Jack, get it on the road, work out the bugs, then paint later.
    Put 3500 miles on mine in 2023

  • @stephenricketts7764
    @stephenricketts7764 Рік тому

    It is quite easy to look at a project and think it is nearly done but when you dig deeper you find things missing. That is not a reflection on the late previous owner (Jim) it is just how we all tend to do projects, put together what we have and then source the rest of the parts which is exactly what you are doing Jack. As for the paint work I have been thinking more about it and I came to the same conclusion as you. Although I am not an expert I did spend a short time working in a body shop when I was younger. It wouldn't be right to speculate as to the quality current finish but you are always at the mercy of the paint shop. Do remember that you know of a very good paint shop here in the UK so there should be no worries there. Thanks to Chuck and Mike for all there help and to you Jack for filming as much as you could. 👍👍

  • @markwootton7482
    @markwootton7482 Рік тому

    I have a 1974 GT4 I rebuilt after a fire and know your journey, you will find a 6al ingnition system will pump up the power and crispness

  • @GRfourfun
    @GRfourfun Рік тому

    Absolutely loving this, what a stunning car and a great project. I have a friend in Arizona who is just as nice as these guys and he even let me drive his 650 bhp Camaro ZL1 to dinner. I thought you’d messed up selling the influenzo but now I’m just looking for more content on this beauty.

  • @stephenwarhurst6615
    @stephenwarhurst6615 Рік тому

    The blistering cracks in the paint job is from body filler. It happens from extreme temperature changing in the weather making the body metal expand and shrink result is body filler cracking under the paint job. do the fridge magnet test to see how thick the body filler is if the magnet don't stick to the car means very deep damage was done to the car

  • @S2000Y
    @S2000Y Рік тому

    What a project this is going to be. At least a year of videos out of this. Bring it on .

  • @EconoboxGarage
    @EconoboxGarage Рік тому +1

    Really looking forward to the rebuild on the Pantera. It has been a favorite of mine for a long time.

  • @michaelpegasiou4531
    @michaelpegasiou4531 Рік тому +1

    Good luck with it all,take as many spares as you can use your suitcases etc.Can I throw in a name for it,Thomas 😊

  • @tedzehnder961
    @tedzehnder961 11 місяців тому

    From the factory I think it was flat black and where the paint bubbled, underneath is what it should look like.
    How a bubble that big came to be, is mind boggling.
    I think it would look better body color instead of black IMO.