Dry-ice blasting our 50 year old Barn Find Pantera
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
- Tom and Brian take the Pantera chassis to a cryo-blaster for some much needed cleaning. The name of the game is preservation not restoration, and there's no better way to preserve the patina of this classic sports car than dry-ice.
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"I'll put it next to my mother's ashes" 🤣
Tom Cotter showing us he has dark humor. Love it!
19:33 Holy crap. Literally.
Fun fact, dry ice does not evaporate but instead sublimates because it goes directly from a solid to a gas, skipping the liquid state.
Yea, what they said!
Anyone know if this would work to clean direct injection valve buildup? Walnut shell is common but it'd sure be nice to know there is no added debris to be concerned about.
@@Mrbfgray good idea, wonder if it's aggressive enough. It would freeze the deposits making them more brittle, so it would be worth a go!
@@rhubarbpie2027 Great point on chilling effect for anything that might be a bit gooey.
@Mrbfgray it does easily
Father and Son spending time bonding over cars - that is love to me!
LIKE THE GLUE, YES?
Oh, how I love seeing some love given to a Pantera.
No doubt! A most underrated car
My sister's new husband in 73' bought a brand new red Pantera! 😊 I was 14!!!! 😮.. blew my mind. He showed me the brochure. Guarantee to go 200! Right out of the box!! My favorite ever since!!
My birth year 73 ❤ .. I fantasize about a 73 Panther of course 😅 .. currently restoring a non-domestic 73 Mercedes d309 bus into a 4WD TD surfari rig. And have a 7.3 4WD going TD 50’s boxvan/LCF mod soon , it’ll have a 70’s-inspired “7.3” racing number on the door .. perhaps one day a birth year pandora will find me 🎉
Really enjoying this Pantera series.
That blue paint looks great
Love this car! Back in 1974 I was at the DMV renewing my tags and was in line behind a guy from the local Ford dealer. He was arguing with the lady behind the counter about why a car that was a 72 was a new car. She just couldn't grasp the concept it took two years to build a car. Ahhh, simpler times.
Could also happen if the car sat on the dealer's lot for a year or more!
Amazing the process. I have seen other videos of this and never get over how nice they come out.
This is one of the best videos. The results are perfect and keeps the original appearance of an intact car. I don't know what it costs but it's a bargain. Instant satisfaction just watching this. Tom you are no doubt so proud of Brian perhaps have him tag along sometime for a video if his schedule allows. I had the same relationship with my Dad too (once car guys always car guys) the dirt in a jar was perfect.... and right next to Mom's ashes... doesn't get much better than that.
Love seeing how the pantera is coming along keep the videos coming
Sarah N Tuned has done cryo on her channel. Her setup is pretty rudimentary, plus she's out in Arizona, but she's borderline OCD about stuff like that, so it's always interesting to watch. The results can be amazing; far more so than I would have believed.
Borderline no, way beyond 😊
😃 Ya beat me to it!👍
That's a beautiful car! So glad to see you're bringing it back to life!
Why do I find watching this kinda thing so therapeutic 😂 👌🏼
I've watched more than several of these blasting videos. The most remarkable ones by far are more modern German cars (like that white Porsche in his shop). From the late 70s and into the 90s, those cars were absolutely caked with Cosmoline for the overseas trip. When they strip that stuff off an old Porsche, it's amazing. Great video. I'd always wondered what a car of this vintage would look like after ice blasting. Enjoying the series very much.
Makes you wonder though, maybe the Cosmoline was the reason they looked so good after 30, 40, 50 years. If you blast it off, does it accelerate the corrosion process? Maybe after blasting these parts a new coating of Cosmoline should be applied.
@@andoletube Of the videos I've watched, there was a replacement sprayed back in its place that was not as thick. Probably something like Boeshield or similar. But, absolutely. I remember when a shipment of Japanese cars were sent over back in the 80s that didn't get the treatment for travel and were all recalled within a year or so. That trip does NASTY things to a car of that vintage.
@@mcseforsale Interesting. Thanks for that.
The dry ice removes oily residue also. A dusting of black trim paint to even out the bare spots will look amazing. I cleaned my engine compartment with a toothbrush, degreaser, and a LOT of elbow grease.
Dang and like that it's over, I could watch this all day. Thanks for sharing.
Totally awesome video. Such a great technology for restorations like this and obviously lots of other genres. Great project to be following along. Never dull and always an education
That's an amazing process that certainly fills a niche in the classic car preservation world.
I'm sure it isn't cheap, but nothing else does what that does.
I just checked, and the one and only place that does it locally here charges $90 per half hour 😳
The next thing I looked up was how much it would cost to get a dry ice blasting machine of my own...
When I was a supplier quality engineer 20 come years ago we started using dry ice blasting to clean steel castings both for rust and also toxic preservatives that some foundries would apply. The beauty of it was there was no chemicals or blasting media to dispose of in landfills. That greatly offset the higher initial cost of the process.
ColdBalsting or Co2 Blasting did a max-great job on our Landrover de-dirting for a rust treatment (Rust originally built in)! thats a great job!
Thank you for this display! Have seen this used in a manufacturing setting but didn't ever think about the other possible uses of the technology!
NOICE!!!!!!! Been waiting for an update on this rebuild!!
An amazing process especially using it for interior restoration. Thanks for sharing
Amazing process. Saw @Dennis Collins highlight this on @Coffee Walk a few months back.
Super excited to see this car being restored.
Fascinating look at the process and results. I'm amazed at the various uses. Thank you ~ Chuck
Cryoblasting is pretty versatile - I've seen people use it to remove mould from the framing in an attic. And because the dry ice sublimates, it makes clean up pretty easy.
Dry ice .What a great way of cleaning. I like the original look and finish of the under parts. Cheers!! Tom.
I hope that you re-chrome the bumpers; they don't look like they will just buff clean and shiny. The rest of the body came out remarkably nice.
Wow very cool!!
Looks fantastic!!
Love how you guys just cleaned the original!!!
Very cool!!
I've been waiting for this, thanks for posting!
These videos are so satisfying. They use dry ice here where I live for pot grow ops to get rid of the mold. Seen it done once all dressed up for it . Awesome job looks new
I really appreciate you bring us along on this journey. I cannot wait to see the end. Then hopefully you guys will revisit that 72 Grand Torino. But for now, please keep it coming.
Great process, and terrific photography too!
Awesome Thanks for sharing Hagerty😍😍😍
Special Thanks to Tom you don't know how much I love this series😍😍😍
Stay Safe Guy's👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
We used dry ice blasters 20 years ago. Worked for a roofing company and all the tar built up on roof cutters and electric tools was a mess. Freeze and blast the tar off was the best way. Could blast all the electrical motors too with no damage.
That is simply amazing !
Amazing cleaning process... same exact machine and medium used for the suspension, undercarriage, and drive train is the for the interior and soft rubber parts.
No superfund site aftermath. Just a broom.
I work as a project superintendent building dry ice manufacturing plants nationwide. They have all been built next to ethanol plants with a pipeline from their fermentation tanks to supply the CO2. The CO2 is cleaned pressurized and liquefied then released to make "snow". The same thing that comes out of fire extinguishers. It's 109 F below zero. From there it goes to a press for blocks or to a row of pellet machines.
This is perfect for a preservation restoration. I don't think I could leave the undercoating on there, but I understand what level of restoration he is looking to do. This will make an amazing driver.
Conveniently omitted downside to dry ice cleaning mentioned in other comments. Were this a "real" job, I wonder what the cost to customer would be. Looks like they used the entire thousand dollar hopper full, maybe more. Spraying what looks like a dime sized pattern, a very tedious and time consuming process, probably taking operator an entire day to complete. So, out the door $1500. - $2000.? Seems it would be far cheaper to start in the driveway with a pressure washer removing up to 90% of dirt and grease, particularly if you're willing to jack the car up, lie on your back and spray upward. THEN go through dry ice cleaning, including interior, cutting cost significantly.
Nice job....getting the dirt in the container was pretty good....great content and thanks
I always enjoy your episodes.
...what a cool process!
Fantastic!
Beautiful post
I had a '73 - same color - and many years ago had a year-long restoration by Pantera Performance in Aurora, CO. The car was waaaay better than new when I got it back! One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was selling it. :(
The Pantera would be a great car for Ford to remake.
I hope you also took the opportunity to clean the interior with Dry Ice. It's great for the dashboard, seats and carpets.
GREAT Car - Great Content - everyone should clean their Barn-Find this way!
an amazing job on the cleaning of the car
As a college freshman back in 1974, i was driving by the local ford dealer
when I saw the sharpest looking car I'd ever seen. It was a "74 Pantera painted in a dark green. Damn, what neat car! Seems like the price was above $14,000. Is that how much they were?
Tom Tjarda masterpiece 😘
Great job 👏
dry ice blasting is really an amazing method of cleaning a vehicle when the dirt and grime are too severe for ordinary methods to clean without risking damage to the underlying paint. It's also a great way to refurbish certain plastics and rubbers. The only downsides are that it's (a.) expensive to get the equipment, (b.) time consuming because the spray pattern is quite narrow and there's basically no splash effect so it only cleans precisely where you're spraying it, (c.) it cannot remove anything beyond the mildest surface corrosion, and (d.) you need to wear the appropriate bunny suit with full mask and you need strong ventilation since the dry ice sublimates into carbon dioxide and can cause the operator to suffocate if there is insufficient air flow.
If you use a diffuse nozzle and appropriate particle size, you can actually use dry ice blasting on automotive paint. The only thing you need to be careful of is to make sure you don't have detaching paint because it'll take it off once you get the paint embrittled by the cold and get that pressure and media under it. But if your paint is in good condition then you can dry ice blast it with the right settings and get a very good result. It basically functions by embrittling, shrinking, and detaching all of the dirt and grime off of the surface along with the topmost layer of any plastics that have become powdery. It's not ideally suited for particularly brittle plastics, disintegrating rubbers, and glass. But when it comes to dirt that's been caked on by grease or any other oily or waxy substance, there might not be any better cleaning method out there for getting it off while preserving the underlying finish and not making your shop an irredeemable wreck.
I wondered where the lift came from... An underground lift... Cool, reminds me of my part time job at the service station in High School....
There's a spray lubricant protection after. The ice gets done . Makes it shine
I was an electrical engineer for a tire company. When we would upgrade tire building machines we would dry ice blast the machines before tear down. We used a 2” screw auger inside the dry ice tote to fill the blaster hopper. Make sure you use a vacuum while dry ice blasting. All the oil and grease quickly melts onto everything.
LEGEND!!
Not going to lie, the Pantera is one of those cars I wish I had bought back in the day. Love these cars.
Very cool!!!
Wow! I need one also. Just think what you could do with that.👍
Meu irmão Parabéns pelo seu trabalho..que belo carro. 🇧🇷👍👍
I know dry ice cleaning from Tavarish, it's an amazing technology! 😎✌
But I have to say: Brian's bright smile reminded me a lot of Paul Walker. Just an observation... 🤘🤘
Holds up tubular shaped dry ice pellet "It almost has a tubular shape to it..." lol
@17:53 'You can come over any time' cracked me up
for the aluminum stuff you should try out the slurry blasting process. you can make it look like new again
I'm 69 years old and I would work for these guys and they wouldn't have to pay me. The satisfaction of doing this to a classic would be enough.
Literally my dream car! This video will be the closest I will get to having one considering my "winning the lottery" has yet to pan out...
Does not evaporate it sublimates (goes directly from a solid state to gas in this case CO2 for the few that don't know this)
What a fantastic job. The car is in really good condition. I was expecting rust.
When 911 prices went through the roof during Covid, I took a long hard look at the 993 C4 in my garage. I worked out that selling would give me 15 years of driving, maintaining and repairing a 911 for free.
I had it dry ice blasted and put it on the market, the prospective buyer had it inspected at a local Porsche specialist.
When it was up on the ramp, the mechanic looked at it and then took off his gloves.😉
Although it was high mileage, it sold immediately for my asking price.
Minute 4:27 the sheet metal looks banged up around that half shaft. I have repaired a Pantera that looked alot like that.
This has been used to clean telescope primary mirrors for decades. Vary gentle on substrates
That's crazy cool 😎
Vapor honing is another great way to clean without damaging
Tom,, I have seen this proces and it is generally quite good. To get that rusty radiator stain from the engine bay use contentrated chemical detergent. Spray it on with a trigger pump,, leave for 10 min and blast off with a pressure washer, it will come up better. That rad stain will wash off. Near 50 years of detailing cars in house. Possibly use the detergent then dryice off. The gearbox came up better with brake clean. Though glass bead it and it will come up new. But keep the glass outside only!!
That is one helluva business opportunity !
Looking forward to seeing the big Cleveland engine go back in and getting that sexy Italian back on the road.
You are very lucky! A no rust chassis!
If there is rust, can the dry ice make more damage, or is it safe to use without further damage?
The results look amazing. 👌🏻
In 1975 my girlfriend’s older brother had a yellow Pantera. It made a lasting impression on me.
Highly recommend getting the underside and exposed areas sealed with paraffin wax next.
One of those rear brake rotors looks like it's hella grooved.
Looks like it's a win,win, father an son,along with its ashes, family united I'd say
Must be completely satisfying
They use this process in mold removal in houses like on rafters and floor joists.
Imagine having a car that could do 175 mph in 1972, with all the dirt roads everywhere. lol
Hey...when did you do the detaliling and polish of the car? That has not benn aired, right?
Great work. Such a cool technique and no excess mess. BTW, that is an awesome floor-buried garage lift. Who makes that system?
There are many different blasters available on the market. Just Google dry ice blaster...
Dennis Collins used it on the carpet and it came out like new
Saw a clip where they used to get the dirt off the paint, is it also possible with this to remove the carbon deposit off 30 year old paint?
WOW
Dry icing definitely works...
That red plastic clutch hydraulic line is now old and brittle. When they fail, your clutch is gone instantly. It’s worthwhile to replace it with a braided stainless flex hose, which many of the Pantera parts vendors sell with all the correct fittings etc.
That dry ice will take your breath away
So I saw an odd looking trailer that very much looked like this one in the south SLC area a few days ago. Now im wondering what was inside.
I really wanted him to say it was a blast.
What does it do to lubricants parts? Anything that is supposed to maintain a coating of grease? Bearings, etc.
Soda blasting is the right way for aluminium parts. Afte rtheya re like new, brite one. Soda also leave protecting film on them. Need to wash off if painted.
We use lasers to do the same thing….operational cost is zero compared to Co2 gas consumption cost….two different process’s with different results on the substrate…🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Had the under coating been sprayed with black (paint?) at some point [well after manufacture]? I note black spray on the aluminum ID Plate. Maybe the entire under coating had been sprayed black at some point in the car's history. OR--is the under coating really factory?