2023 CFMoto 650 NK Outperforms MT-07
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2023
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What do you think about this bike? More bike reviews here>>ua-cam.com/play/PLC0dZgVosHtsxPvzkIDswjw2YjCVodY6Y.html
I'm not buying a motorcycle with an LCD screen or any kind of screen. If you insist that I have modes, give me a physical switch.
I just can't accept this goofy nonsense.
I own one, i love it. The only thing i would spend money on is with a good suspension tuner.
@@SomeBody-pb7ht I found the modes made no difference.
gauge cluster is suspiciously mv agustaish
drinking game: take a shot every time you hear 'steel braided brake lines'
Ben nsbvjkgwfksdsmv. Sfvnbasjgbsllvn,m cxmvbnsvkbn drunk🥃🫠
You want people to die!?
I’m wasted now. Thanks
I went to one of my local dealerships yesterday to check out this exact bike. They currently have it on sale for only $4,999 BRAND NEW 🤯
Now I’m seeing dealer ads on Facebook for $4250
@@lmunky Wow. Incredible deal.
damn, we have them for approximately 6300$...
I bought one used with a couple hundred miles less than $6k out the door. Absolute monster and comes with GPS and front/back ABS, Perreli tires, and color Tft. Are you kidding me, Chinese are killing the game. This thing will smoke your MT06 and they have a parts distributor in Pennsylvania. Stop being a snob, this thing looks great, feels great, and comes with 2YR factory warranty. Btw, did I mention it looks MEAN as hell !!
How’s your bike? I’m bout to buy one.
Race my fz07 listen to it and tell me this is better 😂
Had both the MT07 and 650NK. The NK rode and handled alot better and felt like it had abit more punch. The only downside was that the NK sounded like ass with an aftermarket exhaust :(
180 degrees always do.
@@Happypillzthere’s a guy near me with a Z650 with a TBR exhaust and it sounds freaking wicked, but i won’t even try to pretend that it wouldn’t sound better with a 270 crank
Was the bike comfortable enough to tour with?
I really love the look of this one! I like the look of the SS/SRS slightly more but I prefer the short exhaust on the NK way more! I'm afraid to visit my local dealer bcuz if they have one, I don't think I'll be able to resist buying it. 😂
You're so right about the brake line insights in the industry and I agree. There's no excuse not to use those parts. The saddest thing I can think of about that situation is that a Busa does not have steel braided lines but inexplicably. A Vespa 150 does have steel braided lines in the front (not on the rear because those are drum brakes because, 150 scooter)
Greg...You're correct......
If the red star special has braided lines
Then all bikes should have them
I'm currently debating between this and their 650 Adventura as a possible next-bike option. Thanks for the review!
I like that it looks fairly chunky compared to some other middleweights. Too often Nakeds under 1000cc look kinda misproportioned and give off strong 'beginner bike' vibes. The NK really appears bigger than it is.
Another good review of what I would call a lessor known, but good brand. Keep it up!
Maybe also test ride their 300NK 2023.5 ????? Competition would be the Honda CB300R, BMW G310R, and a few others 300cc bikes. Cheers!
Bought mine brand new as a holdover from 2022 and it was only 3500. I couldn't say no at that price. I love it so far.
Rode one a few weeks ago after watching this video. It was a fun little bike, but it didn’t have that “it” factor. Not to say it’s bad bike. Far from it. Just left a lot to be desired. Definitely would recommend it for a new rider though.
Try the 700 version very nice power
Genuinely really impressed with the build quality of the new CF Moto bikes. The 800 mt is starting to ge a really common sight on Australian roads now
Shit box
689 cc mto7 is still king
@lucid9099 2-3k difference in price though for MT07 but you do get the Yammie reliability. I'm right near the end of my search. MT07/XSR700/CFMoto 650 NK/Suzuki SV650/RE Interceptor 650 even the new KTM390. So many choices
@@tyronecastillo16 If you're looking for both style and fun, the XSR 700 is the way to go.
I'd only choose the SV650 if I wanted to change the muffler for an aftermarket one (you'll need to change the whole system or cut the existing one on the Yamahas).
It's fun and cute and it's got the RPM assist, but it's not as fun as the MT07/XSR 700.
The 390 is an A2 licence bike and you'll get bored of it early.
The CFMOTO 650NK seems decent but we still don't know anything about its reliability. It's probably not that exciting too.
One thing you should also consider, is the fact that you'll lose a good amount of money if you decide to sell it.
The CLX 700 though...That's a bike I'd test ride and consider, if I didn't have the money for a Japanese or European bike.
All in all, one thing's for sure. You can't beat the CP2 reliability and torque.
Almost went cfmoto but i hear about too many issues and they dont seem to have strong support after purchase. I went mt07
Can't go wrong with Japanese mate 👍, Yamaha will hold its value more too.
Good move dodging this Chinesium garbage
@DB-sd3cw Oh look a xenophobe.
@@beaulunawolf1198
Old mate is just calling it out for what it is, junk.
@@fredorico41 While everyone has a right to their own opinion. the fact is the components used to build them are definitely not junk.
Everybody acts like "Brembo" means more powerful brakes when all it is is a brand with a good reputation. Any other company could make massely powerful brake components and several DO its all a matter of specifications piston number and size of hydraulics and how well it is all matched together and with a bike it is just silly to treat the name Brembo like it is an instant step up from anything else....it might be all depends it also might be lack luster all depends Same thing with brands of just about anything it all has to be judged case by case NOT by abrand name alone
could you name any of same good as brembo? - i would like to test them
would u pick the 650nk or the 700clx? i cant decide lol
All Chinese brands are copies of the original. For decades now there has been exact copies of Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha motorcycles built in China factories for the Asian black market.
I’m not going to reward any company that uses this route to undercut the brands that have served us riders well since the 1970’s!!
"Asian black market" bruh Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, KTM, BMW, MV Agusta, etc have their parts and engines made in China. If you even know a thing or two of Japan's current economy, they wouldnt be able to price their bikes well enough to sell due to extremely high labour cost and not enough economy of scale. Brands charging you the brand tax for Chinese manufacturing costs. Y'all talk as if things haven't changed since the 80's.
@@hexadecimal1517 are you referring to the factories solely owned by Honda, which are located in China, or a Chinese owned factory contracted to produce items for Honda?
I wonder how much of that runs through your mind while actually riding…
@@marcustaylor3528 none of it, I don’t ride Chinese motorcycles
They’re partnered with those brands so technically not a copy 🤷🏾
I really like the phrase be intentional. Should be in the manual. Love the vids dude!
i have had the 650nk for more then a year now since it came to the states and other then the after market parts rolling out slow i think this bike is amazing daily bike for anyone at its price rage ...i was close to getting a new mt07 but wen i saw the 650nk and saw everything it came with i was sold saved about 3k
Ditto! I saved at least 3k really nice bike!
Thanks for sharing I'm very interested in this bike or the 800cc I currently ride a fz-09
Think you could travel with the nk650?
It's very tempting to get one of these however I would be concerned about resell value and how well they're holding up. Currently riding a 2008 GSX650F with zero issues. Only the usual wear & tear items.
How is this compared to the Z650? I’m looking to get my first bike and I want to make sure I’m picking the best. I trust your judgement.
lol those are NOT upsidedown forks!
This bro has some really good eyesight must say😂
Lol that’s all you got out of it, huh??
@@marcustaylor3528 ahhh come on, it’s just a reply with reference to this comment, just having a bit of laugh, chill out bro I watched the whole thing.
@@marcustaylor3528 honestly there was very little to take away from it except “nothing negative to say”. No idea how he comes to the conclusion that this is better than the mt07 and I doubt he would actually buy it over the mt07 after riding both back to back.
The dash and the brake lines & the springs???? Seriously???? the dash is the only thing you can’t fix overnight and iirc the mt07 has a new dash since he bought anyway. Like he said this is all about first impressions, so there’s not exactly a ton to take away. The only detail that really appplies to actual riding is the comfort level but given that’s just about the front end even that is fixed with a cartridge kit on the mt07. The 450 video was a much more compelling argument about how it compares to competitors. The only 650’s I would take this over is the royal e field and the kawisaki
It’s the new upside forks. Since every bike has upside Down forks these seemed upside down to him. Lol.
Can't wait for the 450SS video, Same weight and power as ninja 400 but with R7 sound
Actually has more power than a ninja 400 😁
@@RandySoWavvy It's a fair bit heavier too. I reckon the power to weight ratio is about smack on.
@@kleinbottled79the 450SS and Ninja 400 ABS weight difference is negligible, 4 lbs…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 You know - You seem to be right. I could swear I heard a reviewer say it was like 415 lbs or something but other sources echo the 370lbs figure.
(I also wouldn't be surprised if when someone actually puts it on their own scale, that 370 ends up being a bit optimistic - as it often is with Italian bikes - But there is no evidence of that yet that I can find.)
Ninja with full tank is way lighter than 450sr.
As always, your content, whether training, riding or reviews, are exceptional and appreciated, very curious to know whether the CFMOTO 800MT, an adventure style motorcycle. is available in the USA and if so what your opinion would be if you did get a chance to ride and review.
Which CF Moto bike would you recommend? The CF Moto 450nk or the 650nk?
Thanks MotoJitsu because of your video on the MT 09SP I was able to contact Del Amo Motosports of South Bay and get the bike. Also Thanks for the gift card the bike is awesome
Glad you did a review on this bike, In Australia MT07 is a gold standard for learners. But this one looks to have way more features and so a serious competior for the learner plus market.
The problem is reliability. That's the only reason I went for a Japanese bike instead of an aprilia, for example.
I have no idea if these bikes will be reliable, only time can tell, but I wouldn't bet my 5 bucks on them
@@ricardog4459nk650 had been around for years with basically the same mechanicals, they’re a pretty robust unit.
@@ricardog4459CFMoto and KTM have a tie up if I'm not wrong
When i was looking at bikes a few years back (late 2019) there was 3 or 4 nk650s for sale that were about 2 years old for sale. They were all about half the new price or less (so resale was terrible) and i think 2 of them were listed at about $2000 because they had an electrical fault causing a warning light on the dash. Both ads said the same old thing about it being a simple and cheap fix. So this made me think that it must be a common issue and for neither person to have fixed it i figured that either its not cheap/easy to fix, or that the part availability isnt great. Things may well have changed since them but it was enough to put me off. A few months back i saw a newer one for sale that mention having had the dash upgraded to the newer tft screen because it was replaced under warranty. Which made me think that if i ever bought 1 I'd only buy new then sell it once the warranty ran out. But you lose a bunch more money selling them second hand than a mt07 (especially a lams model). Buy a second hand lams mt07 and you can sell it a few years later for almost what you paid for it.
@@TH3R1D3RL1F3cfmoto apparently build some of the ktm models. However that doesnt necessarily mean they build the cfmoto bikes to the same quality. The workmanship might be the same but the quality of materials may vary. The nk650 motor is an old kawasaki motor design (its apparently virtually identical to the motor in the er6n) and the nk650 even has hints of that bike (such as the rear shock being mounted to the side), but as i said, that doesnt mean the motor is built with the same quality parts.
I dont think people realize this bike has been out years all over the world. Its only the Chinese stigma here in the US that is this bikes problem, not the reliability or function. 99% of the things you own is already made in china, and most of your bike parts on any said bike and or your car.
Americans are very insular and think this bike was just slapped together in a backyard Chinese factory last year and imported through dodgy dealers to make a quick buck before disappearing. Its funny that I've got a 2014 650 yet I keep reading comments like 'it won't last', 'its just rubbish' etc. Bike has been as reliable as any Japanese bike I've had, even if it has had some strange little niggles I've had to fix. It's never not started though
@@chrispekel5709 I have a 2022 650NK and it's buttery smooth. The fit and finish is nicer than most bikes that are thousands more. Steel Braided brake lines standard. ABS standard. TFT standard. Plus CFMOTO makes parts for almost every brand on the planet. Most likely you own any bike and it's got parts made by CFMOTO in it. People don't mind their 1000 apple smart phone made in China so I'm confused when people complain.
For their model year 2023.5 I'm not sure why they thought it was a good idea to move the front turn signals so low. If you drop the bike even at a slow speed you will snap it off. Other than that ....looks nice. On their website no accessories listed; screen, bags, etc.
Bikes are not made to be dropped … learn to ride before u dump a Ching Ching bike
@@connorc4914 Oh. Sorry. I was assuming everybody knew the definition of the word 'accident'. My mistake.
Gauge clusters look good on camera. Real world I'd rather have analog. Had a 23 Peterbilt 579 which went this route and it was very hard to read when ya needed it
There’s a reason you see MT-07s everywhere around the world being stunted. There’s also a reason you don’t see CFMoto…
There's plenty of bikes I never see as stunt bikes, not sure what your point is. Here in Sydney these bikes are pretty common on the street
Lol these just got imported clown boy mad this bike cheaper better then your fz 😂
I work with a woman with the exact same body as those things from the 5th element. I’ve been telling my wife about her for 2 years now.
Engine and rear suspension looks a lot like a ninja 650. If its around the same power as a ninja 650 then it no wear near a mt07 killer. Ive had both bikes and the mt07 is a fun torque monster. More HP and more torque. This bike power wise is more on par with the ninja 650 which is a good bike just seemed to be lacking 10hp to really make it fun. Also this bike has 180 degree crank just like the ninja. the MT07 has 270degree crank. much different in sound and power. Skip this model and jump up to the 800 it has the KTM790 engine. So much fun!!
I like the look of this bike but I'm not sure if it has steel braided brake lines
I wonder if you could do a review of a Triumph Tiger 900 Gt Pro. Would be nice.
I have the 400cc version of this. 400NK V3. good for learning and weight training for big bike entry, its heavy as 650NK 206kg😅
Still love my 2022 CLX "heritage" But I'm looking at this one.
Work mate has one
Kept up with me easy on my 2015 Yamaha Stryker
Was actually telling him to buy the Vulcan 650 s but this things just as good if not better
Definitely have to unrestrict mine ( wife's) to find out
In love with the 450SS awesome looking bike ✅ great tech ✅ abs ✅ reasonably priced ✅ what more could you want? 😁
Wondering if you could do a review of the Kawasaki versys 1000
the price is a + ,but 22 kg ~ 50 lbs more than the mt09 is a NO for me.
yes yes still not too heavy, BUT
-206 kg ~454 lbs and 41,5 kW ~ 56 hp out of 649 cm³
compared to the mt07 with
-184 kg ~ 406 lbs and 54 kW ~73 hp out of 689 cm³
not a killer rather an alternative as budget beginner bike imo.
in short all competitors are more expensive, but also better in alsmost evry regard. if they catch up the price will moste likely have to also catch up like the 450sr/ss to the ninja 400.
well handled in this video, but others labeled it sluggish compared to the competitors.
again, not what i call a "killer".
am i wrong here?
4 year warranty with cf moto you can't argue 😂
Why get this over a two yr old sv650 or something? Resale has to be a nightmare with these....I would think Parts?
I have had no issues with my CFMOTO yet but their customer service is fast and looking to make people take notice. I needed some bar ends that were torqued to hard and they sent them over night, called me to see if I needed assistance, and called again and thanked me. I'm quite happy with the purchase I'll run it to the ground
@thomascasey1044 people have had there sv no issues for 10 plus years no need to call anyone
. Get the part for a few bucks. Fix it
Fuck China or whatever bullshit ktm fuck em
What was the total price ?
I swear to God if this dude says steel braided brake lines one more FN time lmfao I'm gonna lose my mind
CF is really doing it, I like the way this bike looks so much like a bigger version of the Bajaj NS line real beautiful. I am not a fan of rider modes but I do hope you get to ride their lower cC bike that I think is either a 250bor 300 and I also love how that master cylinder looks like mine, good times👍👍👍👍
I'm 6'3. 300ish pounds. Do you think it would be strong enough to pull me. It would be my first bike
Interesting. The Japanese will have to drop there prices to compete. Love my Taiwanese AK550 maxi scooter with standard cruise control, brembo double discs with braided lines (all standard in 2023).
how much is out the door price for this bike?
I wouldn't say it outperforms MT-07 but can't beat the price right now for MSRP $4600
I have a 650nk currently but will most likely be switching to the yamaha mt07 there are a number of drawbacks with the 650nk. Great bike for learning. But yamaha is way more refined hence the price difference. Espescially here in australia where the cf motos are hampered by the torque management in the ecu stopping them from doing wheelies 90% of the time even on the 800nk they have that problem
Please review British bikes as well like triumph
Make a video of 300nk as well
Is the price difference worth the questionable difference in reliability and higher depreciation? I have my doubts...
Id rather spend 2500-3500 more & have a place I can take it to get fixed and or serviced. That stocks parts. Lol.
Brembo brake company bought J.Jaun company, which are known for their high quality brake lines and that is what comes on this bike . The Bosch fuel injection on these CFMoto NK series bikes is very nice, and the power band comes in around 5000 to 6000 rpm, and that's when it really comes alive. The other nice thing about these bikes is the slipper clutch and 6 speed transmission and the eco and sport modes, which you can tell a difference in both .
No you can't lol it's stupid hard to tell a difference if there even is one
I went on the CF Moto website & didn't see this bike. Not sure why they would drop this so soon. Seems like it would be very popular.
Can you do a review on Cf Moto 450ss
It's already done he'll post it tomorrow I assume.
Am sorry, in which way are these upside down forks?
I bought a nk650 and I can't use the front brake, I can't squeeze the front brake cause just a little bit squeeze and it brakes 100%
their 2023 450 engine is *CROSSPOANE* ❤❤❤❤
so do you think this would be a good first bike an im 6ft as a first bike
Could be...or something similar.
You should try Hornet CB 750, i think it is better than mt07 and CFMoto 650
If I understood you correctly, you said it has an upside-down fork, but it seems that it doesn’t.
Front turn signals is a no for me. Off they come if and when you lay it down. Cool lookin bike tho.
Nice Bike.👌
Oh snap the got the cf moto in already
How would you rate the 650NK vs. the 700CLX?
theyre almost the same only with the only difference of clx having cruise control on the technology and looks
@@Jubelyxand a bit more power. It's a different chassis too, the rear shock is in a different spot, rear swingarm different. Wider rear tyre
Been waiting for decent reviews of CF Motos and am pleasantly surprised. Once you get over the bike snobbery thing (which applies to other manufacturers including Royal Enfield etc), I think the big boys need waken up! ATVB
I like it the cfmoto line of bikes but I’m wondering the reliability long term?
Some Chinese steel mills are producing better steel, some still produce crud.
There's no benefit to buying a CFmoto aside from paying less up front.
They've been the motorcycle of the Mexican police for years now, I've seen bikes with a lot of km's, Chinese bikes are proving their worth
The Engines on C-F Moto are Licenced from. Kawasaki
ER 650. a well proven Engine ..
It's The Spares that would Concern me...but I live in
England & my Nearest Dealership is C-F Moto.
They also make Bikes for KTM
Engine was fine electronics were garbage, Kick stand switch, fuel sensor switch went with in 2500 km. The fit and finish was garbage.
Wait WHAT!?!??! Wow. Consider me f’n SURPRISED.
Easy to shift but felt heavy. suspension was harsh1
Well, it's sure cooler looking than the MT07.
Now try the 800nk, the king
Quiero esa moto, al costo de ahora es ina ganga, $133.000 pesos, nada se le compara
I want this bike, the price it's so damn good, $6,500 USD, notting compares.
Saludos desde Cancún.😅
I want to see the long time review on this bike.
Yamaha it’s always better !
And never heard CF moto before but thanks for sharing
I wish you could report some of the scam ads that get played on people's videos. You can get demonetized because the ads don't want to play on your content. Well it should work the other way too.
I have one with the 400.3cc Nk400 hehe
Is the throttle twitchy at low speeds?
mine is a little.
I went with the GSX-8S.
Super smooth throttle.
I raced one of these in my 2022 mt07 I guess they had a 22 or 23 sc exhaust I straight smoked that shit every time literally no match
Sure you did clown
Fz-09 is the best naked bike ever built but these look interesting
WTH?
My eyes must be going I dont see upside down forks ....well I mean nowadays everything has em so maybe they will start calling old style upside down? lol
So does this have a quick shifter for shifting up in gears with no clutch?
you can shift any bike up without the clutch
It looks like an MT-07. I don't like as far as looks is the cell phone for the instrument panel, however. haha
Just bought one a few months ago. I love it. The built in tracker also helped recover my bike after some meth heads stole it. Was gone for a while 2 hours 😂
How did they steal it were forks not locked? No pick proof rotor lock?.....small things like that matter.
@@JessicaSimonson1976 I had just gotten home from a long ride with some buddies and knowing i had to work I left it in the front without the forks locked. Long story short woke up to piss noticed it was gone. Called PD and told them where it was. Now there's a couple meth heads in jail for theft. My bike actually helped the PD recover a bunch of stolen items too.
@@tyrant1178 great about the app. Is that can use it to find your bike.
Funny how CFMoto seems to leave the brake levers up high like that.
I reckon that's got bad-ways forks, if I'm correctly mistaken. A slip of the words, I assure you.
Strangely I sometimes think more wind comes at me on my scooter opposed to my zero. Definitely louder wind noise in videos on scooter. The windshield flows air to face and over head.
You can get this bike Out the Door around 6.5k while an MT-07 10k, I rather take the 650NK with all the techs
firstly it doesn`t have up side down forks
secondly how can it be better than the MT-07 when it has the same butt slightly detuned engine from the Kawasaki Z650
In the uk when you buy a CF Moto you get 4 years warranty...unlike Japanese brands you only get 2, seriously considering getting one of these as a commuter
i think the clx 700 should be the one to compare with the mt 07
What is the REAL difference between a Yamaha Mt-07 and a Chinese CF Moto motorcycle that people don't realize. Resale value.
Don’t really see a point of buying one of these over a Kawasaki z650 which I feel is more comparable than the mt07, everyone chooses the mt because the engine is best in class regardless of the lack of electronics
It's a fair bit cheaper that's why
Alright cool cool, but could have a cooler same
I was ask you about it before
nice intro, and nice motto (shut up and practice)
Say steel braided brake lines five times fast.
Those forks are down side up, not upside down
I thought you just bought a mt 09sp