Stephen A. & Shannon Sharpe ANIMATED over Piston vs. Knicks 'WORST CALL' of the season! | First Take
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Shannon Sharpe and Chiney Ogwumike discuss if the NBA has a referee problem after a controversial no-call late in the New York Knicks vs. Detroit Pistons game left head coach of the Pistons Monty Williams calling for a "Fair game!"
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How do you do wrong by me, admit that you're wrong and then fine me for complaining about it? This is ridiculous
it really is. there is simply a 'dont complain about the refs' rule i guess in the nba. break it and you get fined.
@@varunaX Every big league has that problem. Every big league and their refs have been getting worse year after year. NBA and English Premier League have worst refs in the world.
I'm done watching sports it's a F'n joke
Because it’s entertainment and they actually think they’re in control lmao 😂😂😂😂
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The crazy part is the ref was standing right there and didn't blow the whistle. This was almost as bad as when the refs didn't call out of bounds when KD clearly was a few years ago.
And that same ref said he should’ve called it after the game lol
No because that was an important play-off game while this is a regular season game and Detroit doesn't even need wins
That game was in January
The refs were trying to give the W back to Knicks. The Knicks were robbed of their win vs. Houston a couple of weeks ago.
@@PaidonjokSo I guess they owe Detroit 1 huh..
The NBA has had a referee problem for over 20 years, it’s worse even now with sports betting being legal
And thats why the vegas crew still run the refs
It's been a problem since Jordan started winning.
You mean the fans. The league is just fine with it.
Maybe fire the refs? That can be a suggestion. Just like coach med getting fired because team not thriving. Well refs who not doing the job should be fired🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
It's so bad you can tell the games are fixed.
tim donaghy was right. he wasn’t the only rogue ref, there are plenty of others guys blatantly ignoring hard fouls and whistling players for breathing too hard. there needs to be a league wide fraud watch on them
i was just saying that they blow those whistles for everything else but fouls. I'm still amazed of how yelling & mean mugging get more whistles than the actual fouls itself 🤦🏾♂
There no problem. The NBA is supposed to look completely fake compared to every other professional basketball league on the planet and never foul the top players.
These refs need to be held accountable, we could be witnessing match fixing happening right under our noses
Would be wild if that comes out
@@LastEmcee they'll never let it come out
@@tinomapangela4571we still have 1/2 reefs that took part on that 15 years ago or so
@@GiovanniBallerinii Foster
In the refs defense, the Pistons are going to the lottery anyway. It's not like these are all crucial games that will decide their playoff fate.
That ref getting pay under the table
The refs are letting Detroit know that they are losing their lottery pick if they keep on winning. In a way, the refs helped Detroit.
@@Paidonjokfuck off wemby was already drafted yk how many lottery picks are on detroits roster? Detroit should relocate 🤣🤣
Lol
Refs are out of control this season
NOW U SEE WHAT I SEE RIGHT 👀👍
There needs to be a press conference for the refs after games. They can't keep doing this and getting away unscathed
there is and they said the missed the call
no, he means a press conference just like the players and coaches have after the game. They don't have to sit in front of cameras, at a table and have the media ask them question after question. They're protected. @@jrokkt3147
Even better they should start taking 💰 from them for bad calls like this
These referees be selling the games. Betting is every where now. Referees should be held accountable 💯
There is zero chance that refs aren't involved in sports betting by proxy. Way too much money involved to miss your chance at becoming millionaires.
It's their new pension fund.
This NBA season should be called. "When the script is not given to all the actors involved" 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 they gotta have a scapegoat 🤷🏽♂️
Haha way too loud but so on point!
Bowfinger
Ref didn't wanna mess up his parlays 😂😂😂
Facts
The sports betting is getting out of hand it’s clearly fixed
Years ago a NBA ref got caught betting on games and called the game for his bets. Now with sports betting legal you know the gears are in motion the fix is in.
@@hamhockbeansTim Donaghy was the ref. Also people would have to be extremely gullible to believe he was the only one involved, either then or now
I'm a Knicks fan so I'm happy for that win but not like that. I hate a controversial ending and the pistons deserved to win the game.
Real
Exactly.
Whole nba beat us up on us. I’m sorry that happened but niggas need to get over it …word
The same way Knicks deserved the win in Houston. It happens.
Tell Thompson to learn how to dribble. his first dribble he actually throws the ball ahead of him and that's how Donte got to it first! Thats's what the ref saw. Sorry not Sorry
I’ve been saying fine the refs 🤷🏽♂️
I agree with you 💯 they should be fined for that game and not get paid for that game 💯
Refs need to be required to speak to the media too, not fair that players and coaches right after the game need to try to guess why these awful calls are made
Facts😤
This is one of the best comment I’ve seen for the NBA probably ever that’s a great idea 👏
The fact that they didn’t call a foul for Ausar, then called a foul on Jalen Duran for going straight up…is crazy
Exactly.
The Referees Are Clearly BETTING On The GAMES
I don't think the refs are personally, but friends and family might be and are in their ear, officiating across ALL sports have been getting progressively worse with the rise of sports betting, and I don't even gamble but it's clearly way more picking and choosing on when to blow the whistle or not, way too much inconsistency across the board
@@Marley11st obviously you’re right
Rigging games will never stop, as long as there is sports betting 😅
It cracks me up at how obviously the refs are inept or corrupt, while at the same time there are betting advertisers every commercial break.
The officiating has been atrocious in the NFL and NBA for the past decade. Why? Too much gambling money involved?
Baseball been just has bad but since 80s. Ump got that ego power trip all the time
Nfl has been bad for a decade you are right but the nba has been far worse, no comparision
6:15 That's literally the rule this year, a successful challenge means the coach gets to have a 2nd challenge to use.
Unfortunately, having a challenge does the Pistons no good in this situation because you can only challenge a call- nothing was called here, so no challenge can be used
does shannon watch the nba lol? first kyrie has no post game then this lol
obviously what shannon meant is that you get to keep it over and over again. currently i think you at most get a second challenge but not a third one
@@optimusprime4263 nah he doesn't watch the game stop watching espn trust they don't watch the games just the boxscores and highlights
I I’m just curious. Is Adam Silver doing anything at all? It seems like he’s just ignoring one of the biggest problems in the NBA right now.
Only when it impacts financials.
@@TopGunZero fair point, but from what I read online and what players say, it seems like it’s pissing a lot of people off. But you’re right. I guess it’s like speed traps on the road. Some are dumb but it’s revenue for the cops. One can argue bad reffing has drawn in so much revenue from fines. I wonder where all that money goes.
only when the sports gamblers complain smh🙄
He's not doing anything for the simple fact him and the rest of the rules committee are actually telling the refs how to ref the games and follow the rules most of the refs are doing what they are told. The real problem is the office same with the NFL
True, but when money is involved, he goes blind.
If James Williams or any of his crew ref a game in Detroit i hope all the Detroit fans focus their energy on them
Its no surprise that in the last season or so, refereeing has been exponentially worse alongside gambling being openly discussed & promoted by the NBA.
Easy fixes:
1. Win challenge = keep challenge
2. Can challenge at any time (e.g. even if there is a no-call). If lose challenge, 1 tech FT + possession to the opposition
3. Give 2 challenges each half, reset at halftime
4. Make challenge process much quicker
And add on top of that referee zoning. Give each ref a zone for calls that make, which is probably already in place, and upon reviewal of games with controversial call(s), if you missed a call or got a call blatantly wrong in your zone, you get a point. Once you get 5 points, you’re suspended for a week. Add that or something like it on top of your suggestions and I’d agree, easy fix
There’s nothing to challenge if there’s no call. Also there’s no stoppage. If the other team goes on a fast break or starts their possession, the opposing coach can’t start a challenge at that time.
Shannon is right. If you request a challenge and you get it right then you should get to keep the challenge.
That's literally how it works
@@juwilballhe means you get to challenge again and again
@@IispjI agree there shouldn’t be a limit on challenges unless you get it wrong
@@juwilballit’s just not how it works right now lol
@@juwilball no, the way it currently works is that you get to keep your time
out that otherwise would have been used. I believe that you should be able to challenge again if you got the first onecorrect.
Step 1. When the last 2-min report acknowledges a bad call, anyone who complains about that call should NOT be fine.
Step 2. Force refs to regular (every few months) educational coursea with re-examinations, reviewing and examining bad calls from the last few months.
Step 3. Hire external independent evaluators for referees.
Betting is making it crazy crazy😂😂😂😂
It’s been this way goofy
@@dbutta2496it’s obviously worse with modern technology. Dont be dense
Thompson really could've gotten hurt on that play
That one referee do look like Gucci Mane I knew I wasn’t buggin 😂😂
I love the purple the crew is wearing. It looks great!!!
What?!?! YOU R TALKING ABOUT WHT THEY WEARING. G.T.F.O.H HOW SILLY CAN U B
@@madmaxizcool4599 mad max stop hating because the First Take crew is looking Fresh. I talk a lot of Sports all the time.
@@madmaxizcool4599how much of a weirdo are you
There’s been a referee problem for years since KD got to save the ball while being out of bounds in that game vs the rockets a while back
This crew gets style points for the pink/purple coordination going on here.
HE TACLKED THE MAN HAHAHA
Adam Silver told me all i need to know during all star break, when asked about the refs he essentially said its up to the players and refs to figure it out. We all know these refs and everyone above them are making bank on these games
Wow, they look sharp in these purple variations!
wardrobe definitely did their thing with the color coordination
Purple looks good on chocolate 🍫 people
🤣 🙈
It’s a royalty color
With online gambling at its peak this constantly happening doesn’t surprise me the purity of sports is dead and fanduel killed it.
It means literally nothing when you come out and admit your mistakes, yet they keep happening.
NBA should fine refs if they make a bad call. Watch them start making good calls.
Agree fine them and take that money for that game 💯
love the new background looks unreal
Just like last year .. remember Tatum fouling Lebron but no call 😅
Pat Bev with the camera 😂
Yep.
6:12 does shannon not know this is a rule already? lol
that's what I was thinking haha
@@jroc828no if the challenge is successful, you get an additional challenge
@@jroc828Dude you don't know what you are talking about. They changed the rule to be if a challenge is successful, then they get a second challenge. The reason they changed it was because coaches werr holding it until the last few minutes of the game. How about using Google correctly next time or ... watch a NBA game
Looking like Easter Sunday up in that studio. I see y'all 👀
The fact that more and more players and coaches are coming out directly after games and blasting refs on clear misses or bad calls should be a red flag to Adam Silver. It becomes a point when there is way too much smoke to not call the fire department
I'm a knick fan and was SPAZZING OUT thinking a call was coming. That was crazy but also probably a pay back for the Houston game.
Dude did a football tackle and no call is craaaazy...
I finally agree with yall with everything yall said
“What more can we do coach?”
“How bout win more than 10 games”
the knicks been dealing with bs officiating like this for the last 20 years so idc if we won like that, feels nice to be on the other side for once
it depends on the angle you watch the play ... in one angle, it looks like ball was loose at another it looks like one player had his hands on it ... at full speed, can't blame ref on a bang bang play
The raps getting these ref treatments from far so long
🗣️FROM COURT STROMING TO BAD REFEREE WITH BAD CALLS 📞... LIKE WOW IS THIS NOT SCRIPT 😢😅😂😢
The call from Houston was worse. Donte dove for a loose ball. Pistons never really had possession of the ball.
Ever since the implement of the challenge rule, the ending of nba games has slowly gotten worse each season. Before the challenge, the last 2 minutes of a game was under a microscope but the draw back that ppl had for it was it made the game screech to halt in pace. A game with the challenge rule in the last 2 minutes could feel like it takes about 5 minutes to get to the end of the game, but pre challenge rule it could feel like 10 minutes which can definitely upset fans for a games last 2 minutes to go. Since the plays of a game can’t be reviewed in the last minutes it has led to more mistakes on the refs and while I like the challenge system that has been a weakness it has
“Come On Gucci!” 😭😭
This was a great segment for Stephen A.
I remember one Celtics x Lakers game in the Garden that LeBron was driving to a layup in the final seconds, Tatum hits LeBron’s arm in the front of the ref and was a no call, absolutely one of the worst officiating that I have seen live.
The fix is in, Detroit wasn't supposed to win and the refs made sure of it. James Williams was a foot away and acts like he missed it. James Williams is Tim Donaghy 2.0
He had the best angle in the entire arena
How does ESPN regularly have typos in its thumbnails? You spelled “problem” wrong lol.
I like Chine on!! Great analysis and warm presence
They trolling the Pistons at this point.
Bro how long did it take for them to do this on a serious note. No the did allot of dirt the last 2 years,I’ll never forget it ,especially during playoffs and tossing people for emotions. Refs need to be checked this year before playoffs
That was OUTRAGEOUS
The only embarrassment is that the Knicks beat the worst team in the NBA by just two points. sports betting needs to end for everybody nationwide. fans, athletes, coaches, officials, everybody.
Nobody played except j
That missed call was so wild even Brunson stopped for a moment cause it obvious lmao
*Problem.. Go home ESPN, you're drunk.
Players: "More can we do coach?"
Monty: "Find a coach that wants to coach you."
6:24 .......do they know that's the way the challenge rule currently works? If you're right, you get it back. If anything, it should be extended to non-calls like this, where you can have a call retroactively reviewed.
The visual is better with the color coordination 🫡
I blame sports betting and the Refs have too much power. If you say anything against them you’re fined. I blame Adam Silver for ruining basketball. The refs act like people come to see them😂😂💯
You essentially need a neutral party involved, especially in video review.
I miss the old school days damm
I like this trio can we keep them.
Please have a 4 to 5 referee's right now in the NBA😤😤😤
Where’s the New York media now 😬
Ref was literally stood 3 feet away
NBA and MLB have a ref/ump problem. Both sports ejecting players over nothing and missing blatant calls
Old school physical game at the end of
that was wild, looks like dudes trying to tackle Derrick Henry
Using Mea Culpa in a sentence and not being aware of that movie dropping recently with that word as the title is a level of legendary wordplay that im not willing to accept as a coincidence
The ref was standing right there 😭how do u not call that? He stood 2 feet away and watched dude get tackled 😂😂
Not to mention Jalen Duren getting mugged under the basket with no call
This was a problem in soccer and they added VAR and now it rare that they blow a call! All plays and be replayed
i feel like being able to challenge no calls might be interesting, idk how it would be incorporated but sometimes the worst calls are no calls and you just cant challenge it
I decently agree..this play couldn’t be challenged but a way to challenge no calls needs to be implemented
Lmaooo .. Rasheed Wallace been trynna tell y’all this since 02 .
I remember 2006. There’s always been a problem
Dallas vs lakers early 2000’s kings lakers🥱been rigged
That Miami vs Dallas finals pissed me off.
The Trio Color!
All of a sudden Shannon Sharpe's favorite word to use is "egregious" i think kat Williams taught him a new word to sound smarter on tv ha
It also has a lot to do with how the nba has changed rules and calls and made it so hard to officiate today. There is so many ticky tack fouls and so many rules now that you can’t officiate the same way you did just 10 year ago
Yes! The worst thing to me ia their bad calls get a reaction from the players, and they give them a technical foul. 🤦♂️. Monty Williams "It's ridiculous, and we're tired of it".
we can all agree the reffing in the nba have been questionable the past few seasons
Absolutely these refs need to be held accountable, even though I am glad that my New York Knicks won the game last night there is no way that they can’t call a foul on Dante DiVincenzo that late in the game and that was absolutely quite noticeable
I think we need maybe sharper referees with perhaps more intense training where they get tested by their accuracy of calls. I don’t know what kind of training they go through but perhaps it’s not good enough or not the newest
Protest until it's routine and change will routinely happen. If at 1st you don't succeed, try again! Change & effort is a marathon & relay race ✊🏾
Yes, the answer is yes. Big market teams, ratings and "Stars" all play into it. The NBA is BIG business.
Yes
The NBA is having a VAR problem 🤣
The problems is mostly the restriction on Reviews. The NBA needs to do what the NFL does. Make all plays under 2 minutes reviewable at the review center. They could signal to the referee the play needs to be looked at. This would have prevented a lot of the problems weve see lately. There is still a massive inconsistency issue because so much of Basketball in general is subjective.
Maybe they should have the players association be in charge of hiring and disciplining officials.
Its not a ref problem its a gambling problem
Uh, so there’s an issue that correlates with the Refs 😂
THAT LAVENDER SUIT SLAPS