I have decided to return home to Asia because I can't stand and accept the racism I have encountered in that western country. No matter how much we have contributes to the country. Our contributions were never be appreciated. Bedside, we will never be accepted as one of them. We are always treated as outsiders, as second class and treated unfairly. I am glad I am home now. Home sweet home.
To be honest, Chinese people usually treat foreigners in China in the same way. And do you know a single foreigner who was granted Chinese citizenship?
@@astroganov Solomon Adler - Economist Ai Hua (Charlotte MacInnis) - Chinese television presenter Elijah Coleman Bridgman - Protestant Christian missionary Frank Coe - United States government official Erwin Engst - advisor to the People's Republic to China Joan Hinton - nuclear physicist William H. Hinton - farmer and prolific writer Dayyan Eng - feature film director Isabel Ingram - tutor of Wanrong, Empress and wife of the last Emperor of China Kaiser Kuo - Musician and Baidu employee[18] Henry Luce - journalist and businessman Stephon Marbury - basketball player American McGee - game designer Gideon Nye - diplomat, art collector, and merchant Manya Reiss - Founding member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) Sidney Rittenberg - journalist, interpreter and scholar Glenn Duffie Shriver - Studied in Shanghai, arrested in the United States for attempted espionage, to which he pleaded guilty Agnes Smedley - journalist and writer Edgar Snow - journalist Mike Sui - comedic actor Anna Louise Strong - journalist and activist John Leighton Stuart - First President of Yenching University Gerald Tannebaum - humanitarian and actor
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@@gregwong2132 you should normalize it by number of Chinese living in the US and number or foreigners living in China. And Racism in China is different, but it is as strong as it could be. Don't even try to deny it. It's just a simple truth.
It's difficult to live in a country where there is a lot of hostility directed towards you. It doesn't matter how much money or what kind of position you have, your quality of life will be affected negatively.
Would anyone accept living and working in a country where Racism and Hate are against them even though they are naturalise citizens, wealthy, high posts etc when they can find a different country to live a more peaceful and harmonious life?
My father was born in Taiwan, has a PhD in Electro-Optics Physics as well as Masters in Engineering and Theoretical Physics from US Universities and worked as a research scientist for a semiconductor firm in the US. Although he is Taiwanese/Chinese American, he said he was not allowed to attend many meetings. In many of the companies he worked at, there were people who would call him "Chinaman." (For those who don't know, "Chinaman" is a derogatory term in the US) This saddened me as my father is a kind man, and as an inventor, contributed to the defense of this country through his research. This was not something that happened in the 1970s but up to the days in 2015 when he retired. So it's not about discrimination as a result of being "communist" as some racists like to justify their racism, but these people knew he was from Taiwan and still were racist towards him. Separately, my father earned his undergraduate Physics degree from National Taiwan University, the "Harvard/MIT" of Taiwan or the "Tsinghua" of China. Many of his undergraduate classmates also came to the US for their graduate studies and worked in high tech, but a number of them who went back, went on to start major, world class high tech firms in Taiwan or China--many of these names are companies you have heard of. For my relatives that stayed in Taiwan, their lives were professionally and financially better than ours. Sadly, what my father failed to calculate was that Taiwan economy would grow so much faster than US economy with more opportunities minus the racism. If he could give the younger generation advice, it would be to think carefully about coming to the US.
Thanks to the Trump administration. Secondly, the rise of alternative media and citizen journalism in the West and elsewhere reaching Chinese internet and social media (providing accurate translations and context) where alternative news not seen in legacy mainstream media over the decades.
I hope this continues. We treat foreigners, ESPECIALLY white people soooo well. And whites treat Asians so very poorly. Well, not every Asian experiences obvious racism from white people. But holy sh*t is it extremely common for white people to feel genetically and morally superior to Asians, especially Asian men. Dude....it's fking common. And these guys successfully project their own racism on easy target, naive Asians. They swear Asians are so racist when white people racism manifests itself 100000000x worse. I just want Asians to wake up, we are very bad at understanding race dynamics. And white guys are extremely advanced at these race wars. They the GOATS at it tbh
I'm not even from China I'm Chinese American born and raised in California. Went to Stanford. Worked in SF for the past 20 years as an engineer. I grew up visiting family in China every summer. But in recent years, I have been going more and more often. My family and I are exploring a permanent move to China.
@@user-tz9jh6pv2j Cool man, you should. Contributing to China will feel much better for you, although I can't vouch what working like is for engineers there. But China is home of Chinese, always. Personally I don't fk with Chinese/Asian Americans.... something about Anglo Saxon societies neuters us. I hear SF has a lotta these Asians
Racism against Chinese is so rampant. I felt sorry for it happens and increases in this country. I observed even a cashier in a grocery store would give attitude towards Asian looking customers!
I'm setting up my new home in China for retirement. Though it's kind of irrelevant to today's subject, but I would share my thought. I feel the potential threat to my safety. If the POTUS decided to go to war with China for a fabricated reason, all for solving his/her own domestic problem, I might be targeted by the white locals. On top of that, I could see a huge financial problem in the collective west in the near future. There is an old saying which goes like, a wise man doesn't stand beside a dangerous wall. Ever since I experienced the new China, I think I made the right call.
If they started a war with China for fabricated reasons why would you even go to the warzone??? 😂. Try a neutral country like Thailand first, wait out the chaos then go to China once things are peaceful.
Getting your catalytic converter stolen is pretty common throughout the country. There are ant-catalytic converter devices that you can install to prevent it from being stolen.
In contrast, the baker in Yichang, where I am visiting, yesterday had 10-20 of their products displayed on a table outside their shop front. Every piece was in place; not one piece was missing at 5.00 pm. To me, this is the highest form of safety. I am a tourist from Malaysia currently living in Australia. I can tell you that such cakes and bread products placed outside a shop front unmanned, with hundreds of people walking pass a day, will not be safe in either Malaysia or Australia. China is a high trust society.
What i like about Kevin is his love of the USA , despite the dreadful mistakes it makes. Yet he doesn't blame or hate China! Instead he wishes that US and the west would learn from China. We need a lot more people in this world who can accept their failures without blaming everyone else. Pity he's not running for president!!!
*100 years ago it was understandable why many Chinese were moving to the US despite the blatant racism and unfair treatment. Nowadays is a different story.*
Even though China is much more collectivist than America, when I'm in China/Asia I feel more like a human. More respected, ironically more like an individual. If I make an ass out of myself I'm just one person, I didn't represent all Asians in that moment. Know what I mean? Tired of how common it is white people feel superior to Asians, especially Asian men
I remember a few years ago I was working as a research intern in one of the largest and most prestigious cancer research institutes/hospitals in the United States, if not the world. Almost every single professor and adjunct, from the top floors in epidemiology and statistics, to the basement wet labs, was of Chinese origin and some didn't even speak English lol.
Those folks you thought didn't speak English? You'd be surprised by how fluent some of them might be in reading and writing scientific papers and reports, in EXCELLENT English. The way English is generally taught in China (exam-oriented), coupled with nearly non-existent use for spoken English at home and at work (for why would they need it?), means many well-educated Chinese STEM undergrads went abroad with terrible English speaking skiils. Most of them are at least passable in conversation by the time they return home though.
@@edukid1984 oh definitely their writing from what I could read was absolutely clear, i figured they had no issues in scientific communication or reading comprehension at all.
@@edukid1984I noticed that Chinese in China learn English from teachers whose native language is English, that's why their accent is good. Not the case for some countries. India for example
@@jeanlaikan8400 Yea the situation has improved a lot in that top quality training resources for spoken English is now easily accessible online (for those willing to put in the time, effort and $$$). They don't always end up in STEM fields though.
🧡 US / America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question... Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * 2014 - 2022 - 9 countries yet to verify. Pakistan 2022 * Haiti 2022 * Niger 2023 Haiti 2024 Congo 2024 *
Average Americans have no clue of the seismic changes happening in geopolitics due to our American Foreign advisors leading our country for decades into ruin.
Pretty much. The elites succeeded in dumbing down the sheep to the point they wouldn't notice. But the really stupid ones are the elites...they will turn this place into another Mexico, a lawless open air insane asylum where they cannot roam about without brigade-level security details. It takes incredible stupidity to think that's a better way to live than the way we had it in the past. Meanwhile most of the 3rd world will have risen to where we were 50 years ago and laugh at our collective stupidity.
If you're Marxist, it's like revolve of peasants to their overlord! "American Dream" goal is to lure the rest of the world talents here to "serve" America! Although the Chinese government upmost goal is stability within its border, no color revolution will be allowed. On the other hand, it's also its goal to move up the value chain and had plenty of money to achieve it by giving incentives to work for or start a company in China, just look at Hwawei or EVs! Chinese understand Sun Tzu tatic of winning a war without fighting and letting the USA keep up their way. Eventually, US will bankrupt itself to the abyss!
Like one professor at MIT who was accused of spying. Despite the charge was eventually dropped due to lack of evidence, the emotional damage will never heal!
Under Adolf Trumpler reign, a racist bill against the Chinese was passed. As a result, many top Asian workers (professors of Universities, researchers and scientists of private sectors) were arrested and jailed for espionnage, no matter they were originated from another country than China. After many years, they were relaxed, because there was no evidence of any spy activities. They lost their job, their relatives and friends. Unfortunately, the Covid worsened the Asian community fate. Many of them suffered from violence due to the wrong belief which was the Asians were the vector of the disease.
Western countries don’t trust the Chinese scientists who worked there. They have no choice but to leave. The anti Chinese and racism is a big factor. USA is still attracting a lot of poor Chinese that want to try their luck in business in USA. The movement of talent is amazing….. China had shown that it is a free country.
Western countries just don’t believe that anyone not looking like them can be good enough, irrespective of how much you prove the contrary. Glad I left Europe for Africa
I am a Chinese living in the US for 50+ years now. I have encounter my share of racism and kindness. I have also encountered ppl where they are nice up front but wants nothing to do with me because of my race. There are all kinds. Majority of the ppl in the US are decent, they just want to raise a family and live in peace. It's a shame the politicians here amplified the negatives.
Like you, I live in Canada over 50 yrs. We have to watch over our shoulders from time to time. Pity me, even I am in a good decent neighbourhood. who knows what will happen in the next minute.
Who wants to study Shakespeare when chinese have thousands of great minds to study from in their long civilization? Tom cotton's bad grade must have been affacted by the good grades of his chinese classmates back in the day, a reason for his xenophobic.
Does this mean PRC companies will finally suspend or at least reduce their rampant technology espionage? Figure things out for themselves, rather than steal the hard-earned experience of others and copy/improve it on the cheap? What happened to American Superconductor, for example. Ever since Mao decimated the ranks of educated people of his country, China (outside of Taiwan, where innovation flourishes) has had a quantity-vs-quality problem. A chip analyst recently estimated that three-quarters of the capital which the CCP is throwing at ICs is unproductively deployed, i.e. wasted.
@@marcmcreynolds2827 Your Western self righteous supremacy is showing. The truth was that the Western Corp. agreed to terms with China where Western Corp. had to have a Chinese partner to do business in China. Western Corp. gets 90% profit + low labor while the Chinese companies gets IPs of Western Corp.. There was no 'stealing'. They did copy 'legally'. Show me where did Chinese hack American companies to get IPs?
@@marcmcreynolds2827 Hurr durr Chynha stealing our techs even though it's actually the corporations handing it over voluntarily. Get over yourself, the US isn't actually going to manufacture it here when it can be done cheaper, faster and better over in China.
Majority of Chinese are the same as other people. They want a good living environment. If the USA is better, then they will stay in USA. If China is better, they will go to China. People value safety and money.
@@web3out yawn. Gangsta 1 George Washington Gangsta 2 Thomson Jefferson Gangsta 5 Abraham Lincoln Gangsta 10 Alexander Hamilton Gangsta 20 Andrew Jackson Gangsta 50 Ulysses S. Grant Gangsta 100 Benjamin Franklin
And social harmony greatly. Who wants to walk around the streets or parks or country side where everyone is angry and resentful. This is the culture the Western Gov's has brought apon themselves. They go on an on about discrimination But Western countries with their cultural marxist obsessions are discriminating against the european founders and builders of those States. This cultural marxism entered in the Uni system is the 50's and metastasised into DEI and HR departments and Gov bureaucracies. You add to this the economic disparity between rich and poor and the cost of living. This is not a harmonious society. As the sages say When the chickens are stressed they peck each other.
LOL US deputy secretary of state Cambell publicly dissauade Chinese student from studying STEM in USA, while he encourages Indians to do STEM. So Americans can still have tons of Indians. NO worries, right?! good luck
Little does he know that STEM means different things for Indian students looking to game the visa system abroad : Subway TimHortons ExpressPizza McDonalds
As a Chinese American working in Silicon Valley as high level management, there are many interesting differences between Chinese engineers/scientists and Indians. Indian are far more motivated by money and power. When an Indian takes a higher position, he/she feels very comfortable to promote/recruit other Indian fellows, even less qualified. I seldom see Chinese doing this because it is against Chinese meritocracy tradition. As a result, Indian engineers/scientists look for shortcuts for their own careers and Chinese are more interested in developing technologies and products which sell and/or making impacts to the society.
In 1973 , just 20 years old I visited the US, the land of the endless possibilities, a shame they have let this happening, now its the land of unexpected problems. Everything for Wall Street, then this is what you get.
Older Chinese goes back to China because US health care is broken. You have to wait for weeks to see a cardiologist. And the health insurance rates are getting out of hand.
I don’t think we come back cuz of the health care. Most of us came back cuz we see more opportunities back here, and frankly the glass ceilings. (Albeit it has gotten better)
The Chinese value safety as one of their top priorities, and also the Western societies have been going through economic and social decline, when a Chinese tech talent can get paid the same wage in China but enjoy the safety, modern infrastructure and lifestyle (major Chinese cities are as developed as any Western major city in most cases more so), then it is a no brainer to work and live in China, and not to mention the anti China sentiments in the West is making the lives of ethnic Chinese very difficult. I am already hearing many second/third generation overseas Chinese want to come and settle back in China.
People with high ability in an area of expertise want to make use of their talents. The US isn't the place to do that anymore. It used to be, but not now. You know that "American technological edge" you've heard about? Who do you think came up with all that stuff? If they leave, America is all set to... build bowling alleys or something equally awe inspiring.
No choice this is US lawmakers' mindset from both sides of the aisle having feel so insecure of a rising China. You can slow down China's growth technologically but you cannot stop it. The reason is obvious, China population is 4 times more than US. They will be able to produce more young talents pools in core technologies in next 10-20 years to come.
China's human capital is immense and colossal given their prowess for the STEM sector. Such influx of Chinese graduates returning to the US after acquiring a Western degree. China has extraordinarily prestigious universities such as Tsinghua or Peking who bring incessantly youthful and gutsy talents to the job market every single year.
Just finished reading the local news in my state, California, and I am horrified how dangerous it has become - 74 year old woman pushed into an oncoming train in San Francisco, and another 69 y/o woman walking out of a shopping mall bookstore in Orange county, gets robbed and run over by the criminals - this happens way too often today in America and the government just gives a few words and do nothing - absolutely nothing
The reality for many of us is that we have first hand experience with these hate crimes. I was rolling a small luggage on the sidewalk near a BART station in downtown San Francisco around 10am one day. An on-coming big black guy in his 20's via close and kicked my luggage when we passed each other for no reason. He stopped and looking for any escalations. I kept my head down and focus on putting some distance between the two of us. He had clean clothes and looked just like the next Joe. But the incidence showed me, the hate is thick and is everywhere, and sadly, it is not the same country I came to study some 30+ years ago.
Lets see TSMC is composed of Chinese owners, scientists and engineers. nVidia, again Chinese owners, scientists and engineers AMD, Chinese owners, scientists and engineers. If you think China can't develope (or already has) advanced chips, you're sadly mistaken.
Before the chip restriction, it didn't make any financial sense for China to invest in R&D for chip development when it could easily import it from the west. It's funny how people perceive this as China not having the capability and know-how to produce said chips. Don't forget China graduates 5x more S.T.E.M graduates a year compared to the US.
Most Americans just think Taiwan isn’t China and therefore ppl living there isn’t Chinese even though they are exact same Han ethnicity. 😂 Racism and Copium go hand in hand.
As China's industries upgrade, more R&D and high-paying jobs will be provided in the future, and there will be more opportunities to retain high-tech talents.
Even if you are paid half in China for the same kind of job and duty of what you are getting in the US. You still live better in China nowadays. You pay less tax and everything is cheaper by 50% or more in China.
The literal definition of a "virtuous circle" : a chain of events in which one desirable occurrence leads to another which further promotes the first occurrence and so on resulting in a continuous process of improvement.
@@JohnDorian-j7x so? US won again because (1) it has less citizens good at STEM so has to allow more foreigners than ‘in rare circumstances’ into US DoD, (source: published US DoD recruitment document in 2013)? and (2) it falsely accused minority American (also we don’t know if the Chinese neighbor of OP is Chinese American) employees, by set up or just racism, after the employees passed DoD security test + DoD should have been administrating everyday security rules. Bravo?
You can't use them as politicians capitals demonizing them and expect them to stay in the US to contribute. It has never been easy for Chinese to move up the corporate ladder in the US. This is why most Chinese Americans prefer to have their own businesses or becoming doctors and dentists since this has nothing to do with politics and the racism as much. And while US ignore the atrocities committed by Israel, China would be offending US even if it is breathing the same air. It is a no brainer those can go back would go back.
I'm an American-Chinese for 3 generations and have taught my daughter that if the US becomes too racist, leave. What happened to the Jews in one example. How Americans reacted to the Japanese-American imbalance in the 1970s and then the China-US imbalance recently shows the racism that can recur in the US. Even as Trumpsters, my brothers and I also have concerns about the elements in the Far-Right that would be racist to Chinese even like ourselves.
If times are good you are "tolerated" if times are bad you're the scapegoat. How it was since the beginning and nothing's changed. Many just have been living through the good times lately and thought there was progress.
Many of these big brains in the US don't go into the sciences field and do researcher because the money and opportunities are limited. Instead they go into finance so they can develop algorithms that can beat the market.
In 1978 when Deng Xiaoping visited Singapore to learn about how Singapore achieved success in the economy, he was impressed and shortly after started sending batches and batches of Chinese officials to learn from the Singaporeans. Lee Kuan Yew, the founding Prime Minister of Singapore subsequently visited China on a regular basis. In one of his later visits, Lee Kuan Yew said China will not be coming to Singapore to learn. Instead we (meaning Singaporeans) will be going to China to learn. That is the reality of the situation. The students have turned teachers and former teachers and professors have to learn from their former students to keep up. This is what the rise of China is all about!
And what did he say about the prospects of Australia in Asia and those of India? The CIA tried to bribe him with a meagre US$3.3 million. Bong Bong is looking at a $5 billion windfall, at least, for selling out his country. The Armenian President was paid...
You are right! Many Scientists & engineers were subjected to hostility, injustice, false accusations, unfairness and discrimination so they leave! Many students don’t come because they are not welcomed. There are also opportunities in China!
Here in Canada as well I often wonder why these people migrate here not only to be looked in with suspicion But to be hated as immigrants pushing up home prices by the regular folk
@@DW-op7ly *The only advantage which the US and the west in general have over China nowadays are higher value currencies and the false perception of the white people being superior.*
What is concerning is that as American continues to enter into harder times because of lack of its competitiveness, and as China continues to expand its dominance in many areas, the number Chinese scientists leaving the US will accelerate.
Oh, that's only something they SAY! I have seen cartoons about this. There's a DILBERT comic about this, it turns out that Human Resources come in around sixth, after office supplies.
Perhaps there is a passage in the book they want to use to make the distinction between them and the Chinese and Asians and their treatment thereof. Bad Ham. - the boogeyman.
There was something similar in NZ and Australia.... if I'm not mistaken 5th and 6th generation NZ born Chinese didn't have the right to vote until the late 1950's. Australia of course has its White Australian policy still partially intact. 😊
It’s weird how white invade a land of color folks aka Australia and Americas and then proceed to claim they are native while discriminates against the color folks.
After the geopolitical issues started, there are stories of Scientist and students being rejected at immigration and did not get visa approval. The environment became hostile of Chinese Scientists and Students. Hence they fled.
@@annamorning just google it as I did and here it is: "It is a quotation from Episode Three of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio series by Douglas Adams. This is a comedy, the phrase, as used there, is to signify that Dolphins are more intelligent than humans. In the story, Earth is destroyed, the dolphins knew this was coming and left the planet."
If you go to any top universities, you will see that there are so many chinese professors that make up the medical, math, science, engineering fileds while Chinese/asians only make up around 2% of the USA population.
I worked in the US during the 1990s, returning to Hong Kong in 1997 to take up a teaching post at the University of Hong Kong. I had many great friends in the US, people very important and dear to me. It is sad to see the ruling elites and the Western media provoking so much animus between people. Cooperation between the two countries has produced so many important advances for mankind, but this will soon be history.
I am glad to find this channel for short summaries on how asleep the US is when it comes to China. Regarding racism, I wonder where and what type of racism they experience. There's the usual stereotyped view that Asians are out of place if they are not in Asia, but there's also been an increase in anti-China rhetoric from every politician as they ridiculously talk about "containing China" lol! Moreover, in response to rising crime against asians the past few years, a lot of people say "Stop Asian Hate!" without identifying *who's actually doing the hating.* I think one look at crime stats in major metropolitan cities tells a lot about why Chinese finally got fed up with the situation and are leaving. Finally, I suspect American university administrators and tenure boards are biased against Asian professors. They enjoy having them around for diversity scores, but when it comes to putting them ahead of their familiar colleagues, the bias sets in. One thing you did not mention was the reality that if a Chinese researcher ever accepts any payment or grant from the federal government, he stands a good chance of getting charged with spying if he later goes and works for a Chinese company. This is supposedly to stop spying, but the reality is it's meant to intimidate Chinese researchers from working anywhere but for the feds. As you might expect, many of them have had enough. I don't blame them, and I welcome the alliance with other nations to do without the bullying from Uncle Sam. We've had this coming for a while now.
This is very good. The drain. Chinese ppl leaving the US, less Chinese students coming to the US. It is on par with US politics. And also on par with the general view of the American, not liking or trusting ppl with Chinese heritage. All of it expressed in a Racistic way, as you state in this excellent episode.
How many "US University" publications have Chinese Nationals as the lead author(s)? The recent "US Win" in the World Mathematics Olympiad was with an entirely Chinese team - they even accepted the award in Mandarin. Just because those publications came from "US Universities" means nothing.
This is precisely my observation from Hong Kong as well Kevin. Having lived and worked in Hong Kong for over 18 years, Hong Kong is also experiencing a similar trend. We are seeing more and more overseas educated and trained Mainland Chinese and Hong Kong professionals, returning from overseas and settling into the economy in Hong Kong, which is contributing to Hong Kong’s economic growth and strength. Your observations and reporting is so accurate and true compared to the false and delusional mainstream Western news media!
I remember how Microsoft treated Kai Fu Lee. Let his experience be a Cautionary Tale. I am a 4th generation Chinese-American. I have been attacked and beaten twice, I do not think at my advanced age, I will survive another physical attack.
You do a great job of showing what mainstream media in the U.S. does not. Some of the rhetoric has been over the top. It is no wonder that some students and researchers from China or some Chinese Americans would have had enough. In addition, placing sanctions on high end semiconductors was also a bad idea. It was never in the better interest of either U.S. companies or the U.S. to reduce selling to their most important market.
I was pondering the racism quotes. In my neighborhood, we have all races and ethnicities; we live harmoniously. Then I remembered that woke-ism treats Asians with the same racism as White Americans, particularly White males. I would leave this sinking ship if I were them too. Fortunately for me, I am a retired old guy and my son is well established in his career.
As you said, the harmony was in your neighborhood. To feel safe only in a safe neighborhood, but having to worry about gun violence, racist attacks and constant harrassment by a McCarthyian government everywhere else, is not acceptable to most Chinese.
I don't think it's comparable. I doubt white males get randomly attacked in the streets as much as Asians and there isn't a glass ceiling for whites as compared to Asians. I mean, if you had the choice, would you rather be born white male or asian male in the US?
At this point in time it's not a question that Chinese universities are much more focused on proper STEM education than the West. Another major issue Western universities currently struggle with is securing their research IP. That would be a non-issue if we could all find a way to live in peace and just compete economically.
Beijing's Thousand Talents Plan, launched in 2007 to recruit top talents to China, was not so successful. Finally, it's the Western leadership who has helped Beijing accomplish this plan, which may exceed Beijing's original goal.
@@iWantPeace838 In fact, the policy approaches of both Trump and Biden have inadvertently helped China - Trump's focus was on the industrial side of development, while Biden's approach was financial means.
Hmm, a repeat of Germany and Italy in the 1920s-30s with intellectuals and the professional class fleeing to UK, France, USA and the USSR. Makes yah think.
Do you notice that chinese in US rarely get to top level of management compare to Indian? If it merely because of skill, then why is it more chinese company can compete globally compare to Indian. I couldnt think of any reason but racism..
This is exactly what I observed as well. I think it is more to do with politic. I am sure there are some kind of things going on behind the scene between the US gov and indian gov.
Most Chinese I know tent to focus on productivity and practicality. They dislike politics for various reasons and don't like talk more then they need to in a role. Its just their generalized natural personality. When big politics of companies take hold, productivity, innovation and cohesion suffers.
American unis can readily source talents from other populous countries friendly to them like: India, Indonesia, Philipines, etc. What’s the big deal here? Except that… if those had been viable sources of talent, American unis wouldn’t have been that dependent on the Chinese😂🤣.
This situation is so hilarious. Soon it will be a security threat to have foreign students coming to study in the West.😂 The global south suffered for years from the brain drain on top of plundering of their natural resources by the West. Everyone pointed fingers at the poor third world countries and offered "aid" most of which went to pay expensive expatriates from the west that drove big cars and lived in luxury. This is poetic justice....
It's not even about security threat. Chinese are leading in STEM, so why do they need to go to foreign education? Why are not Americans flocking to be educated in China? If they are so smart, they can make their own lithography machines and produce 3nm chips for their electronics.They can use all those graduates and put their minds to use. This is what happens under communism. No one seeks to invent because subsidized technology in that economy is full of deception. If you never admit you are behind, you never have a reason for citizens to support costs and expenditures. Just keep keyboard warriors on every video. It's a waste of resources and time. Even this message was a waste of time.
It already is a security threat. The "south" is ruled by oligarchs who are more than happy to hand over their resources to the global marketplace in exchange for keeping their pitiful little fiefdoms intact, don't kid yourself otherwise.
This is what happens when we turn our backs on the model minority. We get rugged by the very folks who drove innovation for us at a fraction of the costs locally.
This helps China a lot when moving up the value chain of manufacturing. Good to see, people should have a look how many percent of AI talents are Chinese in US. You will be shocked.
Like yourself,even the talented from around the world are going to China. There are many youtubers showing PhD. students from around the world in China.
Kevin, what you say about Chinese students staying in-country to study is the key here. It's largely because American higher education is worthless now. Beyond the emphasis on DEI, the quality is just plain in the toilet. The few who do come over here are 2nd or 3rd tier. Children of CCP workers that will not be the makers and shakers over there. 'murica just cannot attract the best of the best in the US or overseas.
@@greatman-k9h This is the insanity of the magaites, DJT will fix it all. No. Our universities cannot even produce engineers anymore. Our refineries are hopelessly out of date. Nothing changes overnight. Folks just don't get that.
The elites of India completed their studies and stayed in Europe and America, while many Chinese chose to return, even when China was still very backward. For example, Qian Xuesen, one of the founders of the famous JPL (the predecessor of NASA).
There is not much to learn in western universities that you cannot learn locally, technology-wise. Returning graduates actually have to accept discount in compensations. It make sense to recruit and invest in Indian graduates to work in American technology firms. They are less likely to leave when they become successful. Do they have a better place to go??
USA tried to exploit a country with cheap labor, then repatriate the products and sell them to home consumers at greater profit. Capitalism at both ends. . NOW those over whom they tried to Capitalise (The country) are "returning the favor"... in spades.
Either you are low pay or very high pay, you are just one of the slaves working for capitalists. Your goal is to keep enjoy living above the average. That is not good enough to the talented workers or employees.
Top 5% of Chinese students study in China, the one missed out a placement at any Chinese universities go aboard. Chinese students get paid to study in China, so go aboard?
My experience with the Chinese is that they are very pragmatic people who will go to the best place for themselves and especially their children. They are not emotionally attached to a country, including their own. What is very important for them is money and quality of education. It is not surprising that with income levels catching up Chinese people are less likely to pack up and leave China and some who have left are contemplating returning. The Japanese, I find, have traditionally been much more attached to their own country. But how things are changing. It was once very rare for Japanese to study abroad. They are now going in greater numbers, especially at the post-graduate level.
they're going back to China is because they're having trouble completing their final year of study as one case where the student wasn't allow back into the state. Another is now there are plans of discouraging or restricting mainland Chinese from taking STEM study in the states
Well skin colour has always been a hurdle for advancement in the west. Coupled with political influence the masses will follow suit. Already universities like in UK are banding Chinese from applying to certain subjects, so why bother to go abroad? Besides, racial attacks in US on the rise, would U risk your only child there?
not only will they return to China at greater rates ... I think you will see tons of young Western males flee the diversity dystopias that the Boomers have left them with for the amazing architecture and culture of China
They don't like where the US politics are going and see a decline in economics and their level of associates that they deal with.. They see the BRICS as opportunity and the people tht they will deal with in this BRICS environment is more stimulating. They want to go forward, not be pigeonholed in a sudo-legal cage. Also they like Chinese food.
I have decided to return home to Asia because I can't stand and accept the racism I have encountered in that western country.
No matter how much we have contributes to the country. Our contributions were never be appreciated. Bedside, we will never be accepted as one of them. We are always treated as outsiders, as second class and treated unfairly.
I am glad I am home now. Home sweet home.
To be honest, Chinese people usually treat foreigners in China in the same way. And do you know a single foreigner who was granted Chinese citizenship?
@@astroganovlol, list the racist incidents in China and compare them to the racist incidents in the US
@@astroganov Solomon Adler - Economist
Ai Hua (Charlotte MacInnis) - Chinese television presenter
Elijah Coleman Bridgman - Protestant Christian missionary
Frank Coe - United States government official
Erwin Engst - advisor to the People's Republic to China
Joan Hinton - nuclear physicist
William H. Hinton - farmer and prolific writer
Dayyan Eng - feature film director
Isabel Ingram - tutor of Wanrong, Empress and wife of the last Emperor of China
Kaiser Kuo - Musician and Baidu employee[18]
Henry Luce - journalist and businessman
Stephon Marbury - basketball player
American McGee - game designer
Gideon Nye - diplomat, art collector, and merchant
Manya Reiss - Founding member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA)
Sidney Rittenberg - journalist, interpreter and scholar
Glenn Duffie Shriver - Studied in Shanghai, arrested in the United States for attempted espionage, to which he pleaded guilty
Agnes Smedley - journalist and writer
Edgar Snow - journalist
Mike Sui - comedic actor
Anna Louise Strong - journalist and activist
John Leighton Stuart - First President of Yenching University
Gerald Tannebaum - humanitarian and actor
Is because your people in history is the causes of it the word racist is come form your people and didn't your Europe people is more racist that your religion is part of the thing that cause all of this so don't talk to us like that why your people is more racist than us but 👎👎👎😑😑😑
@@gregwong2132 you should normalize it by number of Chinese living in the US and number or foreigners living in China. And Racism in China is different, but it is as strong as it could be. Don't even try to deny it. It's just a simple truth.
It's difficult to live in a country where there is a lot of hostility directed towards you. It doesn't matter how much money or what kind of position you have, your quality of life will be affected negatively.
Fully agree.
Would anyone accept living and working in a country where Racism and Hate are against them even though they are naturalise citizens, wealthy, high posts etc when they can find a different country to live a more peaceful and harmonious life?
only a bunch of suckers would
they don't even accept their own people let alone an official enemy
My father was born in Taiwan, has a PhD in Electro-Optics Physics as well as Masters in Engineering and Theoretical Physics from US Universities and worked as a research scientist for a semiconductor firm in the US. Although he is Taiwanese/Chinese American, he said he was not allowed to attend many meetings. In many of the companies he worked at, there were people who would call him "Chinaman." (For those who don't know, "Chinaman" is a derogatory term in the US) This saddened me as my father is a kind man, and as an inventor, contributed to the defense of this country through his research. This was not something that happened in the 1970s but up to the days in 2015 when he retired. So it's not about discrimination as a result of being "communist" as some racists like to justify their racism, but these people knew he was from Taiwan and still were racist towards him. Separately, my father earned his undergraduate Physics degree from National Taiwan University, the "Harvard/MIT" of Taiwan or the "Tsinghua" of China. Many of his undergraduate classmates also came to the US for their graduate studies and worked in high tech, but a number of them who went back, went on to start major, world class high tech firms in Taiwan or China--many of these names are companies you have heard of. For my relatives that stayed in Taiwan, their lives were professionally and financially better than ours. Sadly, what my father failed to calculate was that Taiwan economy would grow so much faster than US economy with more opportunities minus the racism. If he could give the younger generation advice, it would be to think carefully about coming to the US.
What a country
for tasting the dream of freedom and human rights..which is non existent.
Racism - Finally, many mainland Chinese realised and woke up from the illusions.
Thanks to the Trump administration.
Secondly, the rise of alternative media and citizen journalism in the West and elsewhere reaching Chinese internet and social media (providing accurate translations and context) where alternative news not seen in legacy mainstream media over the decades.
I hope this continues. We treat foreigners, ESPECIALLY white people soooo well. And whites treat Asians so very poorly. Well, not every Asian experiences obvious racism from white people. But holy sh*t is it extremely common for white people to feel genetically and morally superior to Asians, especially Asian men. Dude....it's fking common. And these guys successfully project their own racism on easy target, naive Asians. They swear Asians are so racist when white people racism manifests itself 100000000x worse.
I just want Asians to wake up, we are very bad at understanding race dynamics. And white guys are extremely advanced at these race wars. They the GOATS at it tbh
I'm not even from China
I'm Chinese American born and raised in California. Went to Stanford. Worked in SF for the past 20 years as an engineer. I grew up visiting family in China every summer.
But in recent years, I have been going more and more often. My family and I are exploring a permanent move to China.
@@user-tz9jh6pv2j Cool man, you should. Contributing to China will feel much better for you, although I can't vouch what working like is for engineers there. But China is home of Chinese, always. Personally I don't fk with Chinese/Asian Americans.... something about Anglo Saxon societies neuters us. I hear SF has a lotta these Asians
Racism against Chinese is so rampant. I felt sorry for it happens and increases in this country. I observed even a cashier in a grocery store would give attitude towards Asian looking customers!
We're getting tired of the mud flood, bud.
I'm setting up my new home in China for retirement. Though it's kind of irrelevant to today's subject, but I would share my thought. I feel the potential threat to my safety. If the POTUS decided to go to war with China for a fabricated reason, all for solving his/her own domestic problem, I might be targeted by the white locals. On top of that, I could see a huge financial problem in the collective west in the near future. There is an old saying which goes like, a wise man doesn't stand beside a dangerous wall. Ever since I experienced the new China, I think I made the right call.
Wise move.
If they started a war with China for fabricated reasons why would you even go to the warzone??? 😂. Try a neutral country like Thailand first, wait out the chaos then go to China once things are peaceful.
its not "might", its a definite with 100% certainty
呵，精致的利己主义者，改革开放后没有建设国家，出海享受先发展国家生活，现在攻守之势异也，你也回来了，这就是人性吗
不这么认为，任何人都需要和社会进行价值交换，并不存在平白无故享受的事儿。
Safety is a big issue for me. My parents live in a good suburb in San Jose, and dad got his catalytic converter stolen twice. Like wtf.
My suv was broken into in Las Vegas. 3 luggages stolen. The cops just say "you know we can't be everywhere".
Well, WE don't want out Police anymore, we honor our Criminals and Illegals, so, yeah.
@@Nietzscheablebeing racist won't save you nazi. Blaming black people won't help you. Supporting genocide won't help you
Getting your catalytic converter stolen is pretty common throughout the country. There are ant-catalytic converter devices that you can install to prevent it from being stolen.
In contrast, the baker in Yichang, where I am visiting, yesterday had 10-20 of their products displayed on a table outside their shop front. Every piece was in place; not one piece was missing at 5.00 pm. To me, this is the highest form of safety. I am a tourist from Malaysia currently living in Australia. I can tell you that such cakes and bread products placed outside a shop front unmanned, with hundreds of people walking pass a day, will not be safe in either Malaysia or Australia. China is a high trust society.
What i like about Kevin is his love of the USA , despite the dreadful mistakes it makes. Yet he doesn't blame or hate China! Instead he wishes that US and the west would learn from China.
We need a lot more people in this world who can accept their failures without blaming everyone else.
Pity he's not running for president!!!
Also i came back to China because I am taxed like hell in Western countries as well as the racism.
*100 years ago it was understandable why many Chinese were moving to the US despite the blatant racism and unfair treatment. Nowadays is a different story.*
Even though China is much more collectivist than America, when I'm in China/Asia I feel more like a human. More respected, ironically more like an individual. If I make an ass out of myself I'm just one person, I didn't represent all Asians in that moment. Know what I mean? Tired of how common it is white people feel superior to Asians, especially Asian men
I remember a few years ago I was working as a research intern in one of the largest and most prestigious cancer research institutes/hospitals in the United States, if not the world. Almost every single professor and adjunct, from the top floors in epidemiology and statistics, to the basement wet labs, was of Chinese origin and some didn't even speak English lol.
Those folks you thought didn't speak English? You'd be surprised by how fluent some of them might be in reading and writing scientific papers and reports, in EXCELLENT English. The way English is generally taught in China (exam-oriented), coupled with nearly non-existent use for spoken English at home and at work (for why would they need it?), means many well-educated Chinese STEM undergrads went abroad with terrible English speaking skiils. Most of them are at least passable in conversation by the time they return home though.
@@edukid1984 oh definitely their writing from what I could read was absolutely clear, i figured they had no issues in scientific communication or reading comprehension at all.
@@edukid1984I noticed that Chinese in China learn English from teachers whose native language is English, that's why their accent is good. Not the case for some countries. India for example
@@jeanlaikan8400 Yea the situation has improved a lot in that top quality training resources for spoken English is now easily accessible online (for those willing to put in the time, effort and $$$). They don't always end up in STEM fields though.
cancer treatments are a bigger scam than selling snake oil out of the back of a covered wagon.
🧡 US / America calls it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question...
Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
2014 - 2022 - 9 countries yet to verify.
Pakistan 2022 *
Haiti 2022 *
Niger 2023
Haiti 2024
Congo 2024 *
Iran (!953) was an especially "Interesting" one since it led to many of the others?
Bottom line, China is a much better place to live, clean, brilliant infrastructure, friendly people, low crime, high standard of living and cheap.
Something tells me you don't live in the USA
@@Antiquated-Ether Our suburbs don't compete with their suburbs. Our cities ESPECIALLY don't compete with theirs.
@flyrodmike yeah they don't want the jews to sell their daughters online unlike yt people. No Chinese son will die for ben shapiro or Netanyahu 😊😊
lol, is this a parody? Are you making fun of China?
That is true. China is now a very attractive place for many people now to settle, including more and more Americans.
Average Americans have no clue of the seismic changes happening in geopolitics due to our American Foreign advisors leading our country for decades into ruin.
At the same time they are indoctrinated by the msm propaganda
Pretty much. The elites succeeded in dumbing down the sheep to the point they wouldn't notice. But the really stupid ones are the elites...they will turn this place into another Mexico, a lawless open air insane asylum where they cannot roam about without brigade-level security details. It takes incredible stupidity to think that's a better way to live than the way we had it in the past. Meanwhile most of the 3rd world will have risen to where we were 50 years ago and laugh at our collective stupidity.
This there only back up plan lets hope God has mercy on us.....THREADS
If you're Marxist, it's like revolve of peasants to their overlord!
"American Dream" goal is to lure the rest of the world talents here to "serve" America!
Although the Chinese government upmost goal is stability within its border, no color revolution will be allowed. On the other hand, it's also its goal to move up the value chain and had plenty of money to achieve it by giving incentives to work for or start a company in China, just look at Hwawei or EVs!
Chinese understand Sun Tzu tatic of winning a war without fighting and letting the USA keep up their way. Eventually, US will bankrupt itself to the abyss!
ŰȘ govt run by lawyers controlled by lobbyists.
Why would they work in the US and get discriminated or accused of a crime.
Like one professor at MIT who was accused of spying. Despite the charge was eventually dropped due to lack of evidence, the emotional damage will never heal!
Under Adolf Trumpler reign, a racist bill against the Chinese was passed. As a result, many top Asian workers (professors of Universities, researchers and scientists of private sectors) were arrested and jailed for espionnage, no matter they were originated from another country than China. After many years, they were relaxed, because there was no evidence of any spy activities. They lost their job, their relatives and friends. Unfortunately, the Covid worsened the Asian community fate. Many of them suffered from violence due to the wrong belief which was the Asians were the vector of the disease.
Exactly 👍
All because of insecurity and paranoia
Also the damage to his reputation.
Western countries don’t trust the Chinese scientists who worked there.
They have no choice but to leave.
The anti Chinese and racism is a big factor.
USA is still attracting a lot of poor Chinese that want to try their luck in business in USA.
The movement of talent is amazing…..
China had shown that it is a free country.
Western countries just don’t believe that anyone not looking like them can be good enough, irrespective of how much you prove the contrary. Glad I left Europe for Africa
The extreme surveillance methods used in China are used here, but I would say we are, by very very far, more free than China is.
@@ibrahimkuyumcu2649well at least they don't have to worries about NSA collecting their phone data anymore 😂😂😂
unfortunatedly the only Jobs are Uber and door dash just enough to LIVE ON YOU CAR!!! if You Lucky enough to AFFORD ONE!!!
@ibrahimkuyumcu2649
Keep Copium with your disinformation
I am a Chinese living in the US for 50+ years now. I have encounter my share of racism and kindness. I have also encountered ppl where they are nice up front but wants nothing to do with me because of my race. There are all kinds. Majority of the ppl in the US are decent, they just want to raise a family and live in peace. It's a shame the politicians here amplified the negatives.
"Anti-Social Media" is DANGEROUS in a land of "Headline readers" with Politicians exploiting that resource.
I think it is true of most people everywhere. The problems are usually stirred up by elites and bankers etc.
Trumps needs to get votes by blaming China for everything
Teach your kids how to speak Mandarin. They will need it someday. 😊😊😊
Like you, I live in Canada over 50 yrs. We have to watch over our shoulders from time to time. Pity me, even I am in a good decent neighbourhood.
who knows what will happen in the next minute.
Tom Cotton, the man who did not appreciate Shakespeare himself but wanted to restrict Chinese students to only study Shakespeare, would be happy now.
Who wants to study Shakespeare when chinese have thousands of great minds to study from in their long civilization? Tom cotton's bad grade must have been affacted by the good grades of his chinese classmates back in the day, a reason for his xenophobic.
Cotton is absolutely one of the worst ... the guy is a fascist.
and he can't even differentiate between singaporean and Chinese.
@@cashmerecat9269 he is one stupid person.
@@cashmerecat9269can he read?
China graduates over 4 million engineers and PhD's every year, With greater manufacturing output than the US & Europe combined.
Does this mean PRC companies will finally suspend or at least reduce their rampant technology espionage? Figure things out for themselves, rather than steal the hard-earned experience of others and copy/improve it on the cheap? What happened to American Superconductor, for example.
Ever since Mao decimated the ranks of educated people of his country, China (outside of Taiwan, where innovation flourishes) has had a quantity-vs-quality problem. A chip analyst recently estimated that three-quarters of the capital which the CCP is throwing at ICs is unproductively deployed, i.e. wasted.
@@marcmcreynolds2827ip only matters to capitalists.
@@marcmcreynolds2827 Your Western self righteous supremacy is showing. The truth was that the Western Corp. agreed to terms with China where Western Corp. had to have a Chinese partner to do business in China. Western Corp. gets 90% profit + low labor while the Chinese companies gets IPs of Western Corp.. There was no 'stealing'. They did copy 'legally'. Show me where did Chinese hack American companies to get IPs?
@@marcmcreynolds2827 copium is free
@@marcmcreynolds2827 Hurr durr Chynha stealing our techs even though it's actually the corporations handing it over voluntarily. Get over yourself, the US isn't actually going to manufacture it here when it can be done cheaper, faster and better over in China.
While the Americans and Europeans are still thinking they are the world, and thousands are moving to the west.
Millions are moving to the east.
They do not think that, they simply live it.
Majority of Chinese are the same as other people. They want a good living environment. If the USA is better, then they will stay in USA. If China is better, they will go to China. People value safety and money.
It's not just about Chinese. USA and the West is attacking all Asians and Asian Americans when they go after Chinese. The racism don't really care.
@@web3out yawn.
Gangsta 1 George Washington
Gangsta 2 Thomson Jefferson
Gangsta 5 Abraham Lincoln
Gangsta 10 Alexander Hamilton
Gangsta 20 Andrew Jackson
Gangsta 50 Ulysses S. Grant
Gangsta 100 Benjamin Franklin
True
And social harmony greatly.
Who wants to walk around the streets or parks or country side where everyone is angry and resentful. This is the culture the Western Gov's has brought apon themselves. They go on an on about discrimination But Western countries with their cultural marxist obsessions are discriminating against the european founders and builders of those States. This cultural marxism entered in the Uni system is the 50's and metastasised into DEI and HR departments and Gov bureaucracies.
You add to this the economic disparity between rich and poor and the cost of living. This is not a harmonious society. As the sages say When the chickens are stressed they peck each other.
*The only advantage America and the west in general have right now are higher value currencies, nothing else.*
LOL
US deputy secretary of state Cambell publicly dissauade Chinese student from studying STEM in USA, while he encourages Indians to do STEM.
So Americans can still have tons of Indians.
NO worries, right?!
good luck
Little does he know that STEM means different things for Indian students looking to game the visa system abroad : Subway TimHortons ExpressPizza McDonalds
Indians are desperate to leave India
@@sammygit9486lol not the tim Hortons 😂😂lol canada is a shit show
So basically what you said has just prove that indian talent is just a myth.
As a Chinese American working in Silicon Valley as high level management, there are many interesting differences between Chinese engineers/scientists and Indians. Indian are far more motivated by money and power. When an Indian takes a higher position, he/she feels very comfortable to promote/recruit other Indian fellows, even less qualified. I seldom see Chinese doing this because it is against Chinese meritocracy tradition. As a result, Indian engineers/scientists look for shortcuts for their own careers and Chinese are more interested in developing technologies and products which sell and/or making impacts to the society.
In 1973 , just 20 years old I visited the US, the land of the endless possibilities, a shame they have let this happening, now its the land of unexpected problems. Everything for Wall Street, then this is what you get.
US is now the land of unlimited self destruction.
Corp/Fed/Banks/lobby$ > govt. = oligarchy colonization
Older Chinese goes back to China because US health care is broken. You have to wait for weeks to see a cardiologist. And the health insurance rates are getting out of hand.
In the land of fees and home of the depraved, you're just one bad luck health problem from living under a bridge
@@sammygit9486almost all people with bad credit scores are because of health-care bills.
Canada is even worse, it takes months just to schedule an appointment with your family doctor
@@ftu2021 How come? Every day thousands of doctors and engineers are crossing your border...
I don’t think we come back cuz of the health care. Most of us came back cuz we see more opportunities back here, and frankly the glass ceilings. (Albeit it has gotten better)
The Chinese value safety as one of their top priorities, and also the Western societies have been going through economic and social decline, when a Chinese tech talent can get paid the same wage in China but enjoy the safety, modern infrastructure and lifestyle (major Chinese cities are as developed as any Western major city in most cases more so), then it is a no brainer to work and live in China, and not to mention the anti China sentiments in the West is making the lives of ethnic Chinese very difficult. I am already hearing many second/third generation overseas Chinese want to come and settle back in China.
On the other hand, millions and millions of even more talented Indians are prepared to go to America to help make America great again !
@@verypleasantguyyep, Indians are desperate to leave India
@@verypleasantguyIndians for America.MAGA
As a Caucasian Canadian, I would love to move there, too, if I wasn’t 72 years old.
@@verypleasantguy Yes more Indian STEM "talents" : Subway TimHortons ExpressPizza McDonalds
People with high ability in an area of expertise want to make use of their talents. The US isn't the place to do that anymore. It used to be, but not now. You know that "American technological edge" you've heard about? Who do you think came up with all that stuff? If they leave, America is all set to... build bowling alleys or something equally awe inspiring.
No choice this is US lawmakers' mindset from both sides of the aisle having feel so insecure of a rising China. You can slow down China's growth technologically but you cannot stop it. The reason is obvious, China population is 4 times more than US. They will be able to produce more young talents pools in core technologies in next 10-20 years to come.
China's human capital is immense and colossal given their prowess for the STEM sector. Such influx of Chinese graduates returning to the US after acquiring a Western degree. China has extraordinarily prestigious universities such as Tsinghua or Peking who bring incessantly youthful and gutsy talents to the job market every single year.
Just finished reading the local news in my state, California, and I am horrified how dangerous it has become - 74 year old woman pushed into an oncoming train in San Francisco, and another 69 y/o woman walking out of a shopping mall bookstore in Orange county, gets robbed and run over by the criminals - this happens way too often today in America and the government just gives a few words and do nothing - absolutely nothing
Typical day in U.S. major w
cities
That’s when you know that the empire declining days are numbered.
The reality for many of us is that we have first hand experience with these hate crimes. I was rolling a small luggage on the sidewalk near a BART station in downtown San Francisco around 10am one day. An on-coming big black guy in his 20's via close and kicked my luggage when we passed each other for no reason. He stopped and looking for any escalations. I kept my head down and focus on putting some distance between the two of us. He had clean clothes and looked just like the next Joe. But the incidence showed me, the hate is thick and is everywhere, and sadly, it is not the same country I came to study some 30+ years ago.
@@buyer8631yes black lifes matter
Lets see TSMC is composed of Chinese owners, scientists and engineers.
nVidia, again Chinese owners, scientists and engineers
AMD, Chinese owners, scientists and engineers.
If you think China can't develope (or already has) advanced chips, you're sadly mistaken.
Before the chip restriction, it didn't make any financial sense for China to invest in R&D for chip development when it could easily import it from the west. It's funny how people perceive this as China not having the capability and know-how to produce said chips. Don't forget China graduates 5x more S.T.E.M graduates a year compared to the US.
Most Americans just think Taiwan isn’t China and therefore ppl living there isn’t Chinese even though they are exact same Han ethnicity. 😂 Racism and Copium go hand in hand.
@@inkbold8511 Taiwanese still get beaten up for being too c h inky though
@@inkbold8511 Taiwan and China are both different legal jurisdictions, regardless of shared ethnic ancestry.
@@kc2213
*Even the US STEM graduates are majority Chinese origin.*
As China's industries upgrade, more R&D and high-paying jobs will be provided in the future, and there will be more opportunities to retain high-tech talents.
Even if you are paid half in China for the same kind of job and duty of what you are getting in the US. You still live better in China nowadays.
You pay less tax and everything is cheaper by 50% or more in China.
Way safer than the US Diverse big cities also
@@deemen7132 , that is for sure.
Cost of living in China is so much lower.
The literal definition of a "virtuous circle" : a chain of events in which one desirable occurrence leads to another which further promotes the first occurrence and so on resulting in a continuous process of improvement.
⚠️ have a Chinese neighbor wanting to work for DOD in the US. He will be setup and be blame for spying.
Lee Harvey Oswald Lee. 😮
@@believein1😂
Can an American work for the DoD in China?
Yes@@JohnDorian-j7x
@@JohnDorian-j7x so? US won again because (1) it has less citizens good at STEM so has to allow more foreigners than ‘in rare circumstances’ into US DoD, (source: published US DoD recruitment document in 2013)? and (2) it falsely accused minority American (also we don’t know if the Chinese neighbor of OP is Chinese American) employees, by set up or just racism, after the employees passed DoD security test + DoD should have been administrating everyday security rules. Bravo?
Mr Walmsley is literally narrating the collapse of the American Empire on a daily basis.
You can't use them as politicians capitals demonizing them and expect them to stay in the US to contribute. It has never been easy for Chinese to move up the corporate ladder in the US. This is why most Chinese Americans prefer to have their own businesses or becoming doctors and dentists since this has nothing to do with politics and the racism as much.
And while US ignore the atrocities committed by Israel, China would be offending US even if it is breathing the same air. It is a no brainer those can go back would go back.
They are the self anointed, self appointed ones. 😊
I'm an American-Chinese for 3 generations and have taught my daughter that if the US becomes too racist, leave. What happened to the Jews in one example. How Americans reacted to the Japanese-American imbalance in the 1970s and then the China-US imbalance recently shows the racism that can recur in the US. Even as Trumpsters, my brothers and I also have concerns about the elements in the Far-Right that would be racist to Chinese even like ourselves.
Chinese American are considered perpetual foreigners even though European aka white Americans isn’t a native to this land either.
If times are good you are "tolerated" if times are bad you're the scapegoat. How it was since the beginning and nothing's changed. Many just have been living through the good times lately and thought there was progress.
Many of these big brains in the US don't go into the sciences field and do researcher because the money and opportunities are limited. Instead they go into finance so they can develop algorithms that can beat the market.
Many of them will be far richer than Elon Musk. 😂😂😂😂
Oh, and become a lawyer 😂
In 1978 when Deng Xiaoping visited Singapore to learn about how Singapore achieved success in the economy, he was impressed and shortly after started sending batches and batches of Chinese officials to learn from the Singaporeans. Lee Kuan Yew, the founding Prime Minister of Singapore subsequently visited China on a regular basis. In one of his later visits, Lee Kuan Yew said China will not be coming to Singapore to learn. Instead we (meaning Singaporeans) will be going to China to learn. That is the reality of the situation. The students have turned teachers and former teachers and professors have to learn from their former students to keep up. This is what the rise of China is all about!
And what did he say about the prospects of Australia in Asia and those of India?
The CIA tried to bribe him with a meagre US$3.3 million. Bong Bong is looking at a $5 billion windfall, at least, for selling out his country. The Armenian President was paid...
You are right! Many Scientists & engineers were subjected to hostility, injustice, false accusations, unfairness and discrimination so they leave! Many students don’t come because they are not welcomed. There are also opportunities in China!
Creative Chinese engineers and scientists suffer discrimination in US UK and Australia
It's very depressing to live in a place where lies about your mother land run rampant.
Here in Canada as well
I often wonder why these people migrate here not only to be looked in with suspicion
But to be hated as immigrants pushing up home prices by the regular folk
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*The only advantage which the US and the west in general have over China nowadays are higher value currencies and the false perception of the white people being superior.*
*It seems the younger Chinese are getting smart*
smart Chinese have more opportunity in China compare to america.
What is concerning is that as American continues to enter into harder times because of lack of its competitiveness, and as China continues to expand its dominance in many areas, the number Chinese scientists leaving the US will accelerate.
downward spiral of a declining power
Half of my Chemistry class went to China, that was 82
they say the most important asset in any organisation is your human resource. i think they mean only white human resource.
Oh, that's only something they SAY! I have seen cartoons about this. There's a DILBERT comic about this, it turns out that Human Resources come in around sixth, after office supplies.
So, what else in new? The Chinese Eclusion Act was enacted in 1882.
Perhaps there is a passage in the book they want to use to make the distinction between them and the Chinese and Asians and their treatment thereof. Bad Ham. - the boogeyman.
There was something similar in NZ and Australia.... if I'm not mistaken 5th and 6th generation NZ born Chinese didn't have the right to vote until the late 1950's. Australia of course has its White Australian policy still partially intact. 😊
It’s weird how white invade a land of color folks aka Australia and Americas and then proceed to claim they are native while discriminates against the color folks.
Thank you! I always look forward to your posts!! 👏👏
After the geopolitical issues started, there are stories of Scientist and students being rejected at immigration and did not get visa approval. The environment became hostile of Chinese Scientists and Students. Hence they fled.
I love your work
"So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Curious, what does this mean?
@@annamorning just google it as I did and here it is: "It is a quotation from Episode Three of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio series by Douglas Adams. This is a comedy, the phrase, as used there, is to signify that Dolphins are more intelligent than humans. In the story, Earth is destroyed, the dolphins knew this was coming and left the planet."
Read the book . Watch the movie and enjoy
If you go to any top universities, you will see that there are so many chinese professors that make up the medical, math, science, engineering fileds while Chinese/asians only make up around 2% of the USA population.
I worked in the US during the 1990s, returning to Hong Kong in 1997 to take up a teaching post at the University of Hong Kong. I had many great friends in the US, people very important and dear to me. It is sad to see the ruling elites and the Western media provoking so much animus between people. Cooperation between the two countries has produced so many important advances for mankind, but this will soon be history.
Thank you for your honest assessment, Since the 1950.s I have held a warm spot in my heart for the chinese people! with many posative experiences
I am glad to find this channel for short summaries on how asleep the US is when it comes to China. Regarding racism, I wonder where and what type of racism they experience. There's the usual stereotyped view that Asians are out of place if they are not in Asia, but there's also been an increase in anti-China rhetoric from every politician as they ridiculously talk about "containing China" lol! Moreover, in response to rising crime against asians the past few years, a lot of people say "Stop Asian Hate!" without identifying *who's actually doing the hating.* I think one look at crime stats in major metropolitan cities tells a lot about why Chinese finally got fed up with the situation and are leaving. Finally, I suspect American university administrators and tenure boards are biased against Asian professors. They enjoy having them around for diversity scores, but when it comes to putting them ahead of their familiar colleagues, the bias sets in.
One thing you did not mention was the reality that if a Chinese researcher ever accepts any payment or grant from the federal government, he stands a good chance of getting charged with spying if he later goes and works for a Chinese company. This is supposedly to stop spying, but the reality is it's meant to intimidate Chinese researchers from working anywhere but for the feds. As you might expect, many of them have had enough. I don't blame them, and I welcome the alliance with other nations to do without the bullying from Uncle Sam. We've had this coming for a while now.
Sensible comment, Herb.
This is very good. The drain. Chinese ppl leaving the US, less Chinese students coming to the US.
It is on par with US politics.
And also on par with the general view of the American, not liking or trusting ppl with Chinese heritage.
All of it expressed in a Racistic way, as you state in this excellent episode.
Excellent reporting!
I am not chinese but I understand that
Sad western society going down the drain - it is not easy for us to admit both US /Canada countries are going down big time very sad
How many "US University" publications have Chinese Nationals as the lead author(s)? The recent "US Win" in the World Mathematics Olympiad was with an entirely Chinese team - they even accepted the award in Mandarin. Just because those publications came from "US Universities" means nothing.
Indians win spelling bee contest.
This is precisely my observation from Hong Kong as well Kevin. Having lived and worked in Hong Kong for over 18 years, Hong Kong is also experiencing a similar trend. We are seeing more and more overseas educated and trained Mainland Chinese and Hong Kong professionals, returning from overseas and settling into the economy in Hong Kong, which is contributing to Hong Kong’s economic growth and strength. Your observations and reporting is so accurate and true compared to the false and delusional mainstream Western news media!
Racism, crime, politics and policies will not cause people to leave... People leave because of better prospects at the destination.
I remember how Microsoft treated Kai Fu Lee.
Let his experience be a Cautionary Tale.
I am a 4th generation Chinese-American.
I have been attacked and beaten twice, I do not think at my advanced age, I will survive another physical attack.
THANKS for THE INFO.
PLUS THE NUMBERS DOES NOT LIES
🥂👍👍.
China is attracting talents not just "Chinese" talents. A typical geek would love to work for/with Huawei for example.
You do a great job of showing what mainstream media in the U.S. does not. Some of the rhetoric has been over the top. It is no wonder that some students and researchers from China or some Chinese Americans would have had enough. In addition, placing sanctions on high end semiconductors was also a bad idea. It was never in the better interest of either U.S. companies or the U.S. to reduce selling to their most important market.
What you have observed is true. 🎉
It gets too funny. This guy is complaining that the Chinese are leaving USA, when the truth is that USA kicks out the Chinese !
I was pondering the racism quotes. In my neighborhood, we have all races and ethnicities; we live harmoniously. Then I remembered that woke-ism treats Asians with the same racism as White Americans, particularly White males. I would leave this sinking ship if I were them too. Fortunately for me, I am a retired old guy and my son is well established in his career.
As you said, the harmony was in your neighborhood. To feel safe only in a safe neighborhood, but having to worry about gun violence, racist attacks and constant harrassment by a McCarthyian government everywhere else, is not acceptable to most Chinese.
I don't think it's comparable. I doubt white males get randomly attacked in the streets as much as Asians and there isn't a glass ceiling for whites as compared to Asians. I mean, if you had the choice, would you rather be born white male or asian male in the US?
Most graduates in China are engineers and technologies whilst in America, lawyers etc.
At this point in time it's not a question that Chinese universities are much more focused on proper STEM education than the West. Another major issue Western universities currently struggle with is securing their research IP. That would be a non-issue if we could all find a way to live in peace and just compete economically.
Beijing's Thousand Talents Plan, launched in 2007 to recruit top talents to China, was not so successful. Finally, it's the Western leadership who has helped Beijing accomplish this plan, which may exceed Beijing's original goal.
Won't be sending Biden a X'mas card though.
@@iWantPeace838 In fact, the policy approaches of both Trump and Biden have inadvertently helped China - Trump's focus was on the industrial side of development, while Biden's approach was financial means.
Hmm, a repeat of Germany and Italy in the 1920s-30s with intellectuals and the professional class fleeing to UK, France, USA and the USSR. Makes yah think.
Oh no, whatever will they do without the judeo-bolsheviks!
Wow, great info. Thank you.
Iraqi scientists are next to leave. Only Indian scientists will left steering US tech. e.g. Boeing
Those "talented" indian will cause US to collapse even faster. Lol
Do you notice that chinese in US rarely get to top level of management compare to Indian? If it merely because of skill, then why is it more chinese company can compete globally compare to Indian.
I couldnt think of any reason but racism..
This is exactly what I observed as well. I think it is more to do with politic. I am sure there are some kind of things going on behind the scene between the US gov and indian gov.
Chinese dont know how to spin..indians spin better than locals
Says who?
Says statistics
Most Chinese I know tent to focus on productivity and practicality. They dislike politics for various reasons and don't like talk more then they need to in a role. Its just their generalized natural personality. When big politics of companies take hold, productivity, innovation and cohesion suffers.
American unis can readily source talents from other populous countries friendly to them like: India, Indonesia, Philipines, etc. What’s the big deal here?
Except that…
if those had been viable sources of talent, American unis wouldn’t have been that dependent on the Chinese😂🤣.
This situation is so hilarious. Soon it will be a security threat to have foreign students coming to study in the West.😂 The global south suffered for years from the brain drain on top of plundering of their natural resources by the West. Everyone pointed fingers at the poor third world countries and offered "aid" most of which went to pay expensive expatriates from the west that drove big cars and lived in luxury. This is poetic justice....
It's not even about security threat. Chinese are leading in STEM, so why do they need to go to foreign education? Why are not Americans flocking to be educated in China? If they are so smart, they can make their own lithography machines and produce 3nm chips for their electronics.They can use all those graduates and put their minds to use. This is what happens under communism. No one seeks to invent because subsidized technology in that economy is full of deception. If you never admit you are behind, you never have a reason for citizens to support costs and expenditures. Just keep keyboard warriors on every video. It's a waste of resources and time. Even this message was a waste of time.
It already is a security threat.
The "south" is ruled by oligarchs who are more than happy to hand over their resources to the global marketplace in exchange for keeping their pitiful little fiefdoms intact, don't kid yourself otherwise.
Chinese tech experts had helped develop the microprocessor industry in the US and now they are going home to where the new opportunities flourish.
Not "New" opportunities, but "better" and certainly "SAFER"
Thats the failure of the melting pot....
"The Melting Pot" isn't the failure.
It's the Failure to ACCEPT the Melting Pot.
Not really a melting pot… more like a bento box
@@rogerstarkey5390 Diversity was never a strength, and never will be.
This is what happens when we turn our backs on the model minority. We get rugged by the very folks who drove innovation for us at a fraction of the costs locally.
reversed BRAIN DRAIN😂
This helps China a lot when moving up the value chain of manufacturing. Good to see, people should have a look how many percent of AI talents are Chinese in US. You will be shocked.
Like yourself,even the talented from around the world are going to China.
There are many youtubers showing PhD. students from around the world in China.
Kevin, what you say about Chinese students staying in-country to study is the key here. It's largely because American higher education is worthless now. Beyond the emphasis on DEI, the quality is just plain in the toilet. The few who do come over here are 2nd or 3rd tier. Children of CCP workers that will not be the makers and shakers over there. 'murica just cannot attract the best of the best in the US or overseas.
exactly
*Even the 2nd and 3rd tier students from China are like 1st tier in the US.*
@@greatman-k9h This is the insanity of the magaites, DJT will fix it all. No. Our universities cannot even produce engineers anymore. Our refineries are hopelessly out of date. Nothing changes overnight. Folks just don't get that.
The elites of India completed their studies and stayed in Europe and America, while many Chinese chose to return, even when China was still very backward. For example, Qian Xuesen, one of the founders of the famous JPL (the predecessor of NASA).
Too much AI scientists from China is overcapacity 😅😅
There is not much to learn in western universities that you cannot learn locally, technology-wise. Returning graduates actually have to accept discount in compensations. It make sense to recruit and invest in Indian graduates to work in American technology firms. They are less likely to leave when they become successful. Do they have a better place to go??
USA had free land, and free labor for a long time. That's all 😊
USA tried to exploit a country with cheap labor, then repatriate the products and sell them to home consumers at greater profit. Capitalism at both ends.
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NOW those over whom they tried to Capitalise (The country) are "returning the favor"... in spades.
Either you are low pay or very high pay, you are just one of the slaves working for capitalists. Your goal is to keep enjoy living above the average. That is not good enough to the talented workers or employees.
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bár munkádon más keres,
dolgozni csak pontosan, szépen,
ahogy a csillag megy az égen,
úgy érdemes.
Top 5% of Chinese students study in China, the one missed out a placement at any Chinese universities go aboard.
Chinese students get paid to study in China, so go aboard?
your presentation is great.
My experience with the Chinese is that they are very pragmatic people who will go to the best place for themselves and especially their children. They are not emotionally attached to a country, including their own. What is very important for them is money and quality of education. It is not surprising that with income levels catching up Chinese people are less likely to pack up and leave China and some who have left are contemplating returning. The Japanese, I find, have traditionally been much more attached to their own country. But how things are changing. It was once very rare for Japanese to study abroad. They are now going in greater numbers, especially at the post-graduate level.
Great insights. Thank you
they're going back to China is because they're having trouble completing their final year of study as one case where the student wasn't allow back into the state. Another is now there are plans of discouraging or restricting mainland Chinese from taking STEM study in the states
Another very informative video.
Well skin colour has always been a hurdle for advancement in the west. Coupled with political influence the masses will follow suit. Already universities like in UK are banding Chinese from applying to certain subjects, so why bother to go abroad? Besides, racial attacks in US on the rise, would U risk your only child there?
Human envy is at the core of many of these human issues. Envy is the #1 evil destroying the human condition.
Seven Deadly Sins, of which Envy is just one.
Many years ago, American colleges drew me away from Hong Kong.
Times have changed!
100000000 percent on point
Anyone who lives in China knows why, its just a superior place to live all over.
按贊。
not only will they return to China at greater rates ... I think you will see tons of young Western males flee the diversity dystopias that the Boomers have left them with for the amazing architecture and culture of China
Great discussion!
They don't like where the US politics are going and see a decline in economics and their level of associates that they deal with.. They see the BRICS as opportunity and the people tht they will deal with in this BRICS environment is more stimulating. They want to go forward, not be pigeonholed in a sudo-legal cage. Also they like Chinese food.