05:32 on the yelan graph the % are like furinas by mistake Business Mail: gscientist99@gmail.com Twitter: twitter.com/GenshinTgs Discord Link: discord.gg/2PuwsPMV3V
The problems with using Furina in Alhaitham teams is that, her skill will bring all characters at 50% hp, and Kuki only heals active character, second thing is that, only using Kuki and having C0 Furina, its near impossible to get all Fanfare Stacks, and lastly, many people use Harbinger of Dawn 3-star weapon on Alhaitham, its passive won't work if used with Furina Unless we complicate the already complicated Alhaitham Rotations to include Furina's Pneuma and Ousia states and shuffling between characters to heal them back, then do Furina Burst and E
@@a-passerbyu don’t need to reach max stacks and even so, yelan’s buff also takes time to ramp up. And im pretty sure that u or even TGS is forgetting that furina’s buff is teamwide, meaning not only al haitham benefits from the buff, but so does the rest of the team especially furina and nahida who both have amazing personal dmg. (Assuming TGS forgot or just didnt re calc as nahida does 10% of team’s total dmg on both teams which is kind off unrealistic)
@@revy8808 I do know that, TGS does too, well he's TGS, but anyways, Furina won't be doing good dmg without the buff from her passive about characters being above 50% hp, In order to make this team work at C0 Furina, it'll be so much complicated rotation than it already is ( that's what I'm trying to say, At C2+, Furina can easily get max Fanfare, even with just Kuki heals, which would make it easier to manage the rotation and do big dmg ) Nahida will have higher dmg, Furina will too if teammates are above 50% and can get good amount of Fanfare, Kuki get's buffed healing from the same Furina's burst while Alhaitham does increased dmg, but all this will work for one lucky try in abyss after probably retrying 84 times, becoz 1) anyone is ur party can die one shot becoz of no sheilding and 50% hp, Kuki will definitely die everytime if not careful, 2) Rotations will go longer as u would have to do two rotations, one to heal, other to do dmg and 3) RIP to those using Harbinger of Dawn as that passive will never activate in Furina teams, and Building stats on Alhaitham without his sig is really hard ( He needs practically everything, Em, Er, some atk, Crit and Crit dmg! )
@@scarlet_bitch5501 Their is. If you watched the video you would know too much hydro app on alhaithem teams reduces quicken uptime which will also reduce alhaithems personal damage
I’m already seeing this team pop up in speed runs. Off the top of my head there’s one with this same exact team on the golden house which just sends you to UA-cam. I’ve also tried the team myself. I know exactly what you are saying man it literally DOES feel stronger. I think it’s the hydro uptime that really makes it feel good.i wasn’t able to figure that out until you explained it.
Thanks a lot for the updated guide! I read your post a bit about not talking about other non optimal teams, and I wanted to let you know that this focus is what makes your channel better than all other generic guides that tell you any character works anywhere. Keep it up!
@@justlivinglife6315That's completely true. Xinqiu has saved me several time in terms of survivability, especially against those high dmg pokemons some times ago. Dope unit
This. Furina might be great, but dendro is so op, you honestly don't even need to optimise this much, just play comfortably with Xingqiu and you will clear anything
It's crazy to me that there are people who still think furina is overrated when she improved almost every carry in the game, but at the same time praise grass child that is stuck in the dendro ecosystem with transformative reactions.
Some people just like to hate, only reason they say that is cus they don't like furina herself. I myself don't like nahida at all but I cant deny how busted she is
Furina is not necessary at all for team building but nahida, NAHIDA is a core part of every dendro team and even ganyu melt Furina is replaceable with the likes of yelan and xingqiu but nahida is not
something pretty cool here is that alhaitham can actually use furina's signature weapon. i calced it to be the second best option after LoFI when running marechaussee
hm, what do you think about putting baizhu in the nahida spot? there's a ton of dendro app already with alhaitham, and the extra healing would make it so comfy and you get more fanfare from furina with the healing
I also prefer Baizhu in this kind of team due to comfort, plus I have C2 Furina so Baizhu’s extra healing keeps her A4 passive up while maxing her C2 bonus pretty quickly whereas Kuki usually can’t activate the C2 bonus HP until near the end of the rotation
Doesn't really make up for nahida's utility. Nahida provides energy, more dendro application, and a nice em buff with her burst. Baizhu's healing is good, nahida just provides way more.
@@H2OcupI do agree, but you deal 0 damage if you’re dead. If people need the healing from baizhu to survive, then he is better than all the buffs and damage from nahida lol
Combined with Kuki it would be too much healing, so you’d likely want to use skill bot Raiden for the hyperbloom trigger. (Alhaitham, Baizhu, Furina, Raiden)
Missing a comparison to pure Quicken team (at high investment) =[ Also, pre-C4 Shinobu is not enough to keep up with C6 Xingqiu, on my test I could only spot 2 Spread in the rotation (and they were from Nahida). Idk about C4+ Shinobu though, I haven't tested it again after getting her C4.
I use the same Nahida / Furina / Kuki core to on-field Yae as well. Not sure how the math works out but I also use Prototype Amber on Nahida to patch up the team's health from HP drain.
Wow that would be so wild. I would love that. Kuki is one of my all time favorite characters now bc I’m a loyal hyperbloomer lol. Honestly all I even want right now is a 5* Xiphos moonlight.
I love these furina quickbloom teams, and this one in particular is my favourite al haitham team, although I do prefer the variants where you use an electro character on field and build them in a hybrid way, like yae or raiden, it also allows you to use baizhu instead of kuki, which makes the healing much better and gives you a bit or interruption resistance
@Marz333 true, Cyno works pretty well too Although I still prefer and think are better both Yae and Raiden Their off field electro app can maintain good quicken uptime even while switching between characters, have more adaptable rotations, and can build more EM since they need less ER But yeah, it's probably the best feeling Cyno team
Al Haitham team is always my way to go in floor 12, it feels comfy after learning to use it properly but I was thinking about replacing XQ with Furina to see how's feels, I will now thanks for your guide!
Just wanted to say, Kukis healing is usually enough to keep the onfield character at full HP, which will Trigger Furina to do a team wide heal (when you overheal a character) So while kuki does alright single character healing, she also ends up activating Furina for the full party heals
It might be a better team than the yelan version... But I can't get off the xingqiu version cuz of the stagger resistance. Also, I suck very much at the game, so every bit of dmg reduction is good, so furina really doesn't help me in that case...
true, especially that I run alhaitham with harbinger it feels great to play with xq because harbinger is way better than iron sting so the dmg increase is insane
Yea the Xingqiu version still feels best for me since Alhaitham is one of the few onfielders to just have absolutely 0 innate interruption resist or defensive mechanics in his skillset, so it feels almost necessary.
Absolutely brilliant video TGS. My favourite in all your career as UA-camr. Accurate and simple, I agree on everything, but the only thing I would ask is if you used Nahida with prototype amber to offset Furina's self-inflicted harm to the team along with Kuki's meager healing. What do you think about Furina's C2 and Nahida 's C2 in this team? Finally, I think that Kuki at C0 kinda holds this team back a bit due to her lack of sustained healing/application.
nahida can give u some more dmg but i still prefer replacing her with baizhu, more dmg isnt needed cause i can still clear abyss easily with this team and the team feels more comfortable to play
Yes. Furina addition in Alhaitham's hyperbloom is so good! I like using R5 Prototype Amber to help gain stack Furina's stack faster, instead of relying mainly on Kuki's single healing.
If Furina is in team, then its called furina team....no other character replace her, what she did, Ex : Without furina my characters fo DMG of 1 million, and with furina that 1M changes to 2.5 M , thats not joke tbh
This is crazy, I'm only watching this after finding this team for myself and clearing Floor 12 with all stars (along with Raiden national) LMAO. Here's how I set up mine:: - Nahida: Deepwood (EM/EM/Crit) + The Wisdith/Wandering Evenstar; - Alhaitham: Guilded Dreams (EM/Dendro DMG/Crit) + Toukabou Shigure; - Furina: Golden Troupe (HP/HP/Crit) + Dockland's Assistant/Finale of the Deep/Fleuve Cendre Ferryman; - Kuki Shinobu: Paradise Lost (HP/ATK/EM) + Xipho's Moonlight/Iron Sting - maybe my substats aren't optimal here, but this is what I got and honestly, it works pretty damn good as a hybrid healer/electro unit, buffing Furina as well. Crit isn't really needed imo since I would only use her to trigger the Paradise Lost 4 piece effect/Dendro reactions and healing. Great video btw
What if I modify this team so that it consists of Alhaitham, Raiden/Shinobu, Furina, Xianyun? What do you think of this team? How will it fare in terms of damage and comfort, especially from Xianyun's higher healing?
i'm not sure about this one. since Dendro Res is a contributor here, And Plunge Al doesn't look like he benefits alot from plunging. So maybe Yaoyao or Baizhu, or PTA Nahida+Kuki. you can put Full EM deepwood on Kuki and Raiden like i usually do. but when i do that i usually play with double dendro
This was one of the first furina teams i set up when i got her! Its fairly quick swappy and i have a really nice guilded healing bonus circlet for kuki just incase lol
Seems too sweaty for me with the split rotations and glass cannon "just don't get hit", but pretty cool that older teams can still tease out more damage in new ways. In most of the recent Abysses I've actually been going the opposite direction and opting for comfort, just throwing in Baizhu as the only dendro and calling it a day.
Hey! I don't have Nahida yet, but would you say Jean is a better replacement with 4 piece veridescent? And if so should I use deepwood if alhaitham is the only dendro character?
Hello TGS , can you do analysis on wanderer best team after Furina presence in the game?..does marachausse set and Wriothesley weapon worth it when pair with furina? or is it better to just use his classic hypercarry team ?
Not an expert, but I think furina definitely improved wanderer teams. About his weapon, both of them are roughly equal. But if you're gonna use wanderer, you'll also want faruzan. And wanderer without shield feels horrible, you'll need a shielder. And since you're using furina, will the team be wanderer faruzan furina zhongli? No healer for furina. I'm not very sure.
With the units we have rn You'd honestly be better off just sticking to faruzan Bennett Layla U put faruzan and furina in team So last slot will be either mika or baizhu for heals Baizhu gives IR but doesn't rly buff wanderer while Layla can give wanderer cryo infusion for skill Mika can too with atk speed buff but no IR And IR is very important for wanderer With high constellation furina maybe Smtg like faruzan furina Layla That said yet to see calc proving furina buff + dps > Bennett buff Especially when faruzan alr helps with dmg bonus
@@killingtime8652You can throw in faruzan Bennett furina, and give Bennett a fuck ton of hp and healing bonus. You're more frail, but the dmg difference is significant.
good video though old Alhaitham teams before Fontaine are very strong that's a waste to put Furina on the same team better to put her on the other team in my opinion
What other team? Neuvillette C1 does great without her. Furina shines with Alhaitham and Nahida. Wriothesley on the other hand does need Furina for his freeze teams but not everyone has him and ShitTao does well without Furina too.
Hi, good video. Just wanna say youre talking about 2 very diferent teams. One is pure hyperbloom, the other is quickbloom. To increase Hal damage, you reduce hyperbloom damage. Its a trade, not necessarily better. Btw, you didnt talk about how much time takes kuki heal to max Furina ult buff.
He covers that in the video. Shifting the balance towards quicken also increases effectiveness of Furina buff, since she does nothing for hyperbloom damage. The real reason why you might get more damage from this team, however, is that you're "cheating" half a healing slot by using Kuki as your only healer against Furina. This makes the team pretty fragile (his actual advice in the video is to just not get hit, lol), but if you have the skill to pull it off (I don't) then you get rewarded.
i thought you said that kuki wasn't a very good alternative to baizhu in cyno teams because EM build makes her healing "a bit shit", so what's the difference with this team? is it more to do with application rate of different elements? or just that yaoyao was a much better option in that team and we lack a better electro healer for this one so it's the best we can do?
Cyno will trigger most of Hyperblooms by himself if he is played iHB format, so Kuki's role consolidation doesnt really exist in that team, which is the main reason for playing her. With Alhaitham she triggers hyperblooms and allows Alhaitham to spread due to slower hydro app from Furina and Nahida's overhwelming dendro app, and that is along with healing, which is further boosted by Furina's passive. While you wont fully stack Furina, you will have an average of 40-50 stacks which is quite the boost for Alhaitham and Nahida's performance
The difference is the full uptime the skill has on this team compared to that, and the fact you get to swao around with characters more on this team compared to that so more chars receive active heals.
@@TheGenshinScientist thanks, that makes a lot of sense! i guess i was focusing only on hyperbloom damage when you said uptime rather than healing. it's a compatibility issue with cyno's 10/20s uptime/cooldown, and it would probably also be an issue for the shorter alhaitham rotation that most people were using when he first came out. definitely a pitfall to look out for
This is such an awesome video!!!! I was wondering about the best Alhaitham team just yesterday :D 💕 How much DPS would a Nahida (with an on field dps build) team do? Mine does 35k with her skill every 2 seconds, and 43k with furina (but less hyperblooms so in practice both teams perform similarly)
Great video! Ive been trying to look into Furina more as an alhaitham main since I really want to play his teams where he does the bulk of the damage instead of just the hyperblooms. Im just wondering, what weapon would be best weapon for Nahida in this team? Would a dmg-oriented weapon still be better (like kagura, or sacfrag) than something like prototype amber which can help with Furina's stacks?
I had a feeling this would happen lol. Been saving and waiting for Alhaitham/Nahida since I began playing right before 3.8. And been getting Wolf-Fang since it was released, so I'm hopefully going to be prepared by the time Alhaitham comes around. Unfortunately, I only have C1 Kuki, though.
My Nilou wants the key. My Furina wants the key. My Kuki wants the key. When is the Nilou rerun? I need more of the key. Even though it's so goddamn ugly.
From what i observed from analyzing after running this team many times is that the seed generation in this team is pretty slow, i find Kuki dealing 25% of the team's damage while Alhaitham stands at around 47-48% after some optimizer shenanigans. Swapping to a healing bonus circlet on Kuki seems worth it tbh, i might as well try 4 pc instructor on her lmfao
i'd say sub dps since on this team nahida's personal damage is a contributor here, though Nahida should go hold PTA here to help keep the team healthier, and don't worry about losing some personal damage since Furina is there.
I'm running alhaitham(HoD) with furina and if your dodging skill is good enough (which should be if you're on HoD)(also former beidou player) it is very viable weapon. Don't let internet discourage you from using furina with alhaitham (HoD) it will work fine
i wanted to test yelan as an onfield dps with simulacra and c1 with xingqui ,kazuha,layla in 2nd team so in first team i didnt had any hydro unit to go with alhaitham so i used furina instead of other hydro applier instead of going quicken , NGL the burst damage with the mix of quicken and hyperbloom it went faster with furina than yelan or xingqui , now imma use this alhaitham furina comp instead
Can u plz make a short video or atleast share your thoughts on whether one should go for Raiden C2 or Nahida C2 and which one would provide better value to the account as a whole. I personally was gonna go for Raiden C2, but after I knew Nahida is coming right after, I feel like I should go for her instead.
nahida c2 will be an upgrade for every dendro team, raiden c2 is great for just her personal dmg but out of the two go for whoever you like the most because abyss is easy enough to be cleared at c0 for these characters
Neuvillette unfortunately made people forget how broken Alhaitham is, they are even starting to underestimate him, saying that Navia is the second best dps in the game, ahead of Alhaitham
@@ahumanperson1638Nah I have Ayaka's premium team. Navia is just better even when I play switch and plug with her different teams. No comments on Hu Tao since I don't have her, but I agree Neuvy and Haitham >>>
So you mentioned this is the best Alhaitham team. Is it better than Nahida xingqui Yelan and Kuki? Would Nahida Yelan furina Kuki be better than that? Also for Alhaitham is Mist Splitter good especially with M hunter artifact set?
@@TheGenshinScientist Do you know or could you test Nahida Yelan and Furina at c2 with Kuki c6 at 1000 base em and everyone with best in slot weapon Vs this Alhaitham team with everyone c2 and Best in slot weapon.
If I run this team should I use prototype amber (r5) on nahida? (For a little bit extra healing, fan fare stacks and comfort) Or will it not be worth it ?(Meaning, will losing nahida damage make the team preform noticebly worse, the extra fan fare u gain with furina not worth it, etc.)Tldr, I usually use fav codex or oathsworn eye on nahida since I don't have many good catalysts and never felt the need to lvl r5 widsth. I can't test anything from my own account since I don't have alhaithm..(at least not yet)
@@cornflakebutsilly unless ur nahida has sig/5 star weap, she aint losing dmg at all, proto amber gives fanfare stacks meaning it negates the dmg loss from swapping of the weapon.
@@TheGenshinScientist thanks for the Quick answer! A other think about Kuki, I just read the passive of the Doghands Assistent and it seems to be better than than Iron Sting in terms of comfort while still giving EM. Is it worth to level it up, or is it just a sidegrade? The end goal for a 4 star weapon will probably still be Xiphos, but this weapons gets no reruns sadly :/
potential for yoimiya with chevreuse that has fischl, beidou or bennet, etc? i'm sure some ppl who either already have yoi or just got her are curious (myself included) since yoi, fischl, beidou, chevreuse are all ranged it negates the problem of stuff being knocked away for the most part
because of the uptime. i'd probably sticked to my deepwood full EM with tons of HP substats kuki which could be helpful for multiwave, i just need dockhand or Key. the blooms are less and usually the difference in damage isn't that big between hyperblooms with GD or Deepwood isn't that big so it wouldn't matter that much, and i could run a more offensive set on nahida or maybe stick to Yaoyao. also it feels kinda scary running this team without fav weapon, maybe Furina can carry it?? i feel like for nahida she needs PTA obviously.
I don’t have kuki so can’t i use raiden instead she does a whole much more of dmg and gives great electro application the only downside is that the only source of healing can be from Furina
I run this in domains a lot but this is a bit difficult to pull of in the abyss especially against heavy hitters. Kuki's heal is not that strong. The only way to heal your party is by taking alhaitham's precious field time, using her pneuma form or by over healing alhaitham. I can over heal alhaitham just fine by dodging but still not enough to cover the whole team.
Im waiting on a off field partywide Electro healer and Geo healer then in terms of Futina synergy, Alhaitham and Itto,Navia somewhat will gain a lotta value and finally be able to use Furina very well.
Navia/Bennett/Zhongli/Furina already works very well and I doubt any geo healer will replace them- Bennett can viably heal the entire team due to Navia’s quick swap/low field time as well.
unless that electro aoe healer can: scales off EM procs Hyperblooms Good ICD/none electro application every 0.6s/1s aoe application polearm user doesnt have ER issues shes not gonna be much of an increase.
i have jade cutter and furina's weapon and i dont have furina. should i give alhaitham furina's weapon or jade cutter ? i didnt see you talking about the weapon on alhaitham
Alhaitham Nahida and Furina feel overkill in one team, should Baizhu replaceble with Nahida? My Furina is c0, so kinda a struggle to get max stack without Baizhu or Jean
The problem with Furina in Alhaitham's team with Kuki and Nahida is to get full buff with Furina's ultimate at C0, but It is a very good option with Furina C2. Personally, I prefer Cyno, Furina, Nahida and Baizhu.
helppppp i am confused. i have kuki, yelan, raiden, nahida. i wanna build a team for our scribe. do i skip nahida? Do i use raiden or yelan? Do i give nahida em or crit?
9:21 do these results change depending on your alhaitham and nahida and investment cuz in my experience i get much better results using instructors on kuki over flop and gilded.
I’d think it would be somewhat worse (at least compared to double hydro hyperbloom, regular aggravate, etc): - Nahida would be solo Dendro, so you lose the EM buff from Dendro resonance and Electro resonance’s ER isn’t doing anything for Kuki and Keqing (although it may mean you can give up one ER substat on Furina) - Keqing’s damage scaling is worse than Alhaitham and therefore she would not benefit as much from Furina - Keqing will trigger many hyperblooms herself which would likely be half the damage of a full EM build’s hyperbloom It would still clear Abyss like any mid-tier team though. (Each member is still contributing rather than being carried.)
@@shishi2177 If you do that (Keqing, Furina, Baizhu), you’ll be running another variation of on field electro quickbloom. It would be similar to a Cyno team except Keqing is the main electro.
imo “.”Furina’cuz using skill(close to enemy) +ult will almost guarante to activate the Key passive’but make sure u have enough ER on our queen Furina💗or if u need more healing(: use it on kuki cuz overall the dmg diff kinda smillar
At 4:22, after Alhaitham Q, the NA was physical dmg for a few hits then turned into dendro dmg. I thought he only gets dendro infusion with E but not Q? I don't have him though that's why I'm not sure. Also, is it better to switch nahida to baizhu for more healing = higher furina buff?
burst gives his mirror (which gives infusion) after few seconds and yes, it might be better off switching baizhu for furina. Plus less interruption for alhaitham
Getting a Raiden and Baizhu for Alhaitham + Furina teams is better than buying a Key of Khaj-Nisut for a 4 star character. Plus your Nahida gets to be free for another team.
I don't have Nahida so I use Alhaitam, Kuki, Yelan and Furina. And is my strongest team even tho my Alhatiam has the Iron sting (And no one with dendro shred). I wanted to pull for Nahida but honestly my team is already plenty strong and will most likely pull for CR for my Xiao.
Kuki healing feels so bad to me... Id have to run Kuki with 2pc2pc healing bonus and or HB circlet to maybe feel better, or would I be losing too much HB damage? With Nahida buffing it seems fine. Since above 1k damage increase from EM falls off
2pc2pc is not too bad but you do want as close to 1000 EM as possible so HB circlet is a bad idea. The EM Kuki teams do require better dodging in Floor 12 than even Bennett teams so it's quite a high skill team. Use Alhaitham Baizhu Furina Raiden if Kuki is too hard to play. Other ways to make it better - replace Furina with XQ or give protype Amber to Nahida (both less damage loss than giving Kuki less EM)
My Alhaitham is with mist splitter and Yao Yao c1 So My total dendro dmg bonus is about 110% Should I replace Dendro cup with EM cup to play with Furina?😅
I mean this sincerely and not dismissively: run an optimizer. There are general guidelines but there is no way of knowing unless you make calcs with buffs and your own artifacts in mind. (For example, my alhaitham runs an atk sands and it better than my EM sands 😅)
05:32 on the yelan graph the % are like furinas by mistake
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The problems with using Furina in Alhaitham teams is that, her skill will bring all characters at 50% hp, and Kuki only heals active character, second thing is that, only using Kuki and having C0 Furina, its near impossible to get all Fanfare Stacks, and lastly, many people use Harbinger of Dawn 3-star weapon on Alhaitham, its passive won't work if used with Furina
Unless we complicate the already complicated Alhaitham Rotations to include Furina's Pneuma and Ousia states and shuffling between characters to heal them back, then do Furina Burst and E
@@a-passerbyu don’t need to reach max stacks and even so, yelan’s buff also takes time to ramp up. And im pretty sure that u or even TGS is forgetting that furina’s buff is teamwide, meaning not only al haitham benefits from the buff, but so does the rest of the team especially furina and nahida who both have amazing personal dmg. (Assuming TGS forgot or just didnt re calc as nahida does 10% of team’s total dmg on both teams which is kind off unrealistic)
@@revy8808 I do know that, TGS does too, well he's TGS, but anyways, Furina won't be doing good dmg without the buff from her passive about characters being above 50% hp, In order to make this team work at C0 Furina, it'll be so much complicated rotation than it already is ( that's what I'm trying to say, At C2+, Furina can easily get max Fanfare, even with just Kuki heals, which would make it easier to manage the rotation and do big dmg )
Nahida will have higher dmg, Furina will too if teammates are above 50% and can get good amount of Fanfare, Kuki get's buffed healing from the same Furina's burst while Alhaitham does increased dmg, but all this will work for one lucky try in abyss after probably retrying 84 times, becoz 1) anyone is ur party can die one shot becoz of no sheilding and 50% hp, Kuki will definitely die everytime if not careful, 2) Rotations will go longer as u would have to do two rotations, one to heal, other to do dmg and 3) RIP to those using Harbinger of Dawn as that passive will never activate in Furina teams, and Building stats on Alhaitham without his sig is really hard ( He needs practically everything, Em, Er, some atk, Crit and Crit dmg! )
@@revy8808id rather have my alhaitham dmg increased by 30-35% with yelan than 25-30% increase (100-150 ff stacks. tbh, u mostly get
great video as usual. but I'll continue my spread team.
Al Haitham + Raiden + level 40 yaoyao + Zhongli
I love the interrupt resistance that Xingchu provides Alhaitham is so nice, makes it a lot more comfortable for me.
Same but my XQ is c6 so his hydro app is too much so I'll just use his E and less of his Q
@@miranolastname2366there’s never too much hydro
@@scarlet_bitch5501 Their is. If you watched the video you would know too much hydro app on alhaithem teams reduces quicken uptime which will also reduce alhaithems personal damage
@@scarlet_bitch5501There is!
I’m already seeing this team pop up in speed runs. Off the top of my head there’s one with this same exact team on the golden house which just sends you to UA-cam. I’ve also tried the team myself. I know exactly what you are saying man it literally DOES feel stronger. I think it’s the hydro uptime that really makes it feel good.i wasn’t able to figure that out until you explained it.
Thanks a lot for the updated guide! I read your post a bit about not talking about other non optimal teams, and I wanted to let you know that this focus is what makes your channel better than all other generic guides that tell you any character works anywhere. Keep it up!
Another easy solution to the healing issue would be to just pull for C6 Furina and use EM Raiden instead. Very simple!
Easy solution😂😂😂
yes very easy and simple solution. i wonder is someone could do that to my broke ass account 😅
Joke aside if you have healing isue just use yao yao, i use yao yao furina kuki and alhaitam and it is a very comfy team,
Baizhu and Yao Yao easily solves the issue
@@loreyxillumina "Bailu" wrong game bruddah
Thanks for answering the question, Sir Scientist (my not-friend).
The team itself is stronger but the Xingqiu variant just feels much smoother to play+the cooldowns line up perfectly so I prefer that
Xingqiu interruption resist is so underrated
Alhaitham specifically needs it for his team so furina doesn't feel as good to play with
This! I have both Furina and Xingqiu built, and from my experience, playing Alhaitham / Xingqiu / Shinobu / Nahida is just so much more comfortable.
Furina makes his team glass cannon, usually not worth it
@@justlivinglife6315That's completely true. Xinqiu has saved me several time in terms of survivability, especially against those high dmg pokemons some times ago. Dope unit
This. Furina might be great, but dendro is so op, you honestly don't even need to optimise this much, just play comfortably with Xingqiu and you will clear anything
In the current abyss the healing is not an issue, when we get the constipated beasts and the heralds freeze combo again then it will matter
It’s still a Furina issue my friend, you won’t get much from her fanfare stacks if you don’t build for healing
@@senelclark101 That's true, even if this team is the best Alhaitham team it still wastes Furina's buff, honestly I'll just pair her with Neuvillette
It's crazy to me that there are people who still think furina is overrated when she improved almost every carry in the game, but at the same time praise grass child that is stuck in the dendro ecosystem with transformative reactions.
Some people just like to hate, only reason they say that is cus they don't like furina herself. I myself don't like nahida at all but I cant deny how busted she is
she's just too fucking good. The ability to also changes forms kinda removes the need for healer in overworld
Furina is not necessary at all for team building but nahida, NAHIDA is a core part of every dendro team and even ganyu melt
Furina is replaceable with the likes of yelan and xingqiu but nahida is not
You can praise furina without slandering nahida you know they're both in top5 5 stars
Do you about that dendro mc?
Why I prefer to use xingqiu in this team is because of the interruption resistance
I've been DYING for you to cover this team thank you so much
something pretty cool here is that alhaitham can actually use furina's signature weapon. i calced it to be the second best option after LoFI when running marechaussee
hm, what do you think about putting baizhu in the nahida spot? there's a ton of dendro app already with alhaitham, and the extra healing would make it so comfy and you get more fanfare from furina with the healing
I also prefer Baizhu in this kind of team due to comfort, plus I have C2 Furina so Baizhu’s extra healing keeps her A4 passive up while maxing her C2 bonus pretty quickly whereas Kuki usually can’t activate the C2 bonus HP until near the end of the rotation
Doesn't really make up for nahida's utility. Nahida provides energy, more dendro application, and a nice em buff with her burst. Baizhu's healing is good, nahida just provides way more.
@@H2OcupI do agree, but you deal 0 damage if you’re dead. If people need the healing from baizhu to survive, then he is better than all the buffs and damage from nahida lol
Combined with Kuki it would be too much healing, so you’d likely want to use skill bot Raiden for the hyperbloom trigger. (Alhaitham, Baizhu, Furina, Raiden)
Missing a comparison to pure Quicken team (at high investment) =[
Also, pre-C4 Shinobu is not enough to keep up with C6 Xingqiu, on my test I could only spot 2 Spread in the rotation (and they were from Nahida). Idk about C4+ Shinobu though, I haven't tested it again after getting her C4.
I use the same Nahida / Furina / Kuki core to on-field Yae as well. Not sure how the math works out but I also use Prototype Amber on Nahida to patch up the team's health from HP drain.
I'm missing a healer... I have alhaitham, furina and kuki I don't have anyone to put on 4th place
If you have Ayato this Team also works, also we need a 5* Kuki
Wow that would be so wild. I would love that. Kuki is one of my all time favorite characters now bc I’m a loyal hyperbloomer lol. Honestly all I even want right now is a 5* Xiphos moonlight.
@@ctran1955 Xiphos is such a blessing on Kuki, sadly just have one at r2, but it helps a ton with ER
@@user-ue7gt6cr1v same I have 2, but I have it on Kazuha and rn Kuki is just holding umbrella sword for Aesthetic. R5 Xiphos moonlight would be nuts 😭
I love these furina quickbloom teams, and this one in particular is my favourite al haitham team, although I do prefer the variants where you use an electro character on field and build them in a hybrid way, like yae or raiden, it also allows you to use baizhu instead of kuki, which makes the healing much better and gives you a bit or interruption resistance
Cyno too that’s literally his core team and is better in that role than anyone else besides Alhaitham ofc
@Marz333 true, Cyno works pretty well too
Although I still prefer and think are better both Yae and Raiden
Their off field electro app can maintain good quicken uptime even while switching between characters, have more adaptable rotations, and can build more EM since they need less ER
But yeah, it's probably the best feeling Cyno team
@@AlejandroBravo0yeah these days it’s mostly about preference because most dps are pretty good now other than poor dehya
baizhu furina core is so comfortable to use
Another banger vid by Tgs! An he properly explained my favorite team in the entire game 👍.
Al Haitham team is always my way to go in floor 12, it feels comfy after learning to use it properly but I was thinking about replacing XQ with Furina to see how's feels, I will now thanks for your guide!
damn that alhaitham looks cracked ngl
Just wanted to say, Kukis healing is usually enough to keep the onfield character at full HP, which will Trigger Furina to do a team wide heal (when you overheal a character)
So while kuki does alright single character healing, she also ends up activating Furina for the full party heals
Which is not enough to counteract Furina’s hp consume on off field teammates lol.
When I use this team I use Nahida on a P. Amber
@senelclark101 probably a good way to do it, 3 different sources of healing rather than one powerful teamwide healer
I love the videos, I just think its insane that we theory craft for a game that doesn't give us end-game
It might be a better team than the yelan version...
But I can't get off the xingqiu version cuz of the stagger resistance.
Also, I suck very much at the game, so every bit of dmg reduction is good, so furina really doesn't help me in that case...
true, especially that I run alhaitham with harbinger it feels great to play with xq because harbinger is way better than iron sting so the dmg increase is insane
Yea the Xingqiu version still feels best for me since Alhaitham is one of the few onfielders to just have absolutely 0 innate interruption resist or defensive mechanics in his skillset, so it feels almost necessary.
Absolutely brilliant video TGS. My favourite in all your career as UA-camr. Accurate and simple, I agree on everything, but the only thing I would ask is if you used Nahida with prototype amber to offset Furina's self-inflicted harm to the team along with Kuki's meager healing. What do you think about Furina's C2 and Nahida 's C2 in this team?
Finally, I think that Kuki at C0 kinda holds this team back a bit due to her lack of sustained healing/application.
nahida can give u some more dmg but i still prefer replacing her with baizhu, more dmg isnt needed cause i can still clear abyss easily with this team and the team feels more comfortable to play
Yes. Furina addition in Alhaitham's hyperbloom is so good! I like using R5 Prototype Amber to help gain stack Furina's stack faster, instead of relying mainly on Kuki's single healing.
If you need more heals, prototype amber nahida does the job perfectly fine with kuki
If Furina is in team, then its called furina team....no other character replace her, what she did,
Ex : Without furina my characters fo DMG of 1 million, and with furina that 1M changes to 2.5 M , thats not joke tbh
i tried this team in abyss too, but not with nahida since I don't have her. Alhaitham-Furina-Kuki-Yaoyao/Baizhu feels as strong too and extra comfy!
This is crazy, I'm only watching this after finding this team for myself and clearing Floor 12 with all stars (along with Raiden national) LMAO. Here's how I set up mine::
- Nahida: Deepwood (EM/EM/Crit) + The Wisdith/Wandering Evenstar;
- Alhaitham: Guilded Dreams (EM/Dendro DMG/Crit) + Toukabou Shigure;
- Furina: Golden Troupe (HP/HP/Crit) + Dockland's Assistant/Finale of the Deep/Fleuve Cendre Ferryman;
- Kuki Shinobu: Paradise Lost (HP/ATK/EM) + Xipho's Moonlight/Iron Sting - maybe my substats aren't optimal here, but this is what I got and honestly, it works pretty damn good as a hybrid healer/electro unit, buffing Furina as well. Crit isn't really needed imo since I would only use her to trigger the Paradise Lost 4 piece effect/Dendro reactions and healing.
Great video btw
you forget to show nahida and furina builds, would also like to know sands to circlet main stats. 😅
What if I modify this team so that it consists of Alhaitham, Raiden/Shinobu, Furina, Xianyun? What do you think of this team? How will it fare in terms of damage and comfort, especially from Xianyun's higher healing?
i'm not sure about this one. since Dendro Res is a contributor here, And Plunge Al doesn't look like he benefits alot from plunging. So maybe Yaoyao or Baizhu, or PTA Nahida+Kuki. you can put Full EM deepwood on Kuki and Raiden like i usually do. but when i do that i usually play with double dendro
i like using baizhu here rather than nahida, without xq RTI is so important to me
Definitely agree, interruption resistance+ damage resistance/heal is very important.
I find the team with Furina, Raiden and Baizhu to be better instead of Kuki variants
This was one of the first furina teams i set up when i got her! Its fairly quick swappy and i have a really nice guilded healing bonus circlet for kuki just incase lol
Cant wait for Alhaitham rerun, I want his weapon
Same, that is an insane weapon
Why did i feel called out when you brought up 180 wishes for Key 🙈
Really like your choice of bg music
Seems too sweaty for me with the split rotations and glass cannon "just don't get hit", but pretty cool that older teams can still tease out more damage in new ways.
In most of the recent Abysses I've actually been going the opposite direction and opting for comfort, just throwing in Baizhu as the only dendro and calling it a day.
Hey! I don't have Nahida yet, but would you say Jean is a better replacement with 4 piece veridescent? And if so should I use deepwood if alhaitham is the only dendro character?
i would say use dendro mc instead
Hello TGS , can you do analysis on wanderer best team after Furina presence in the game?..does marachausse set and Wriothesley weapon worth it when pair with furina? or is it better to just use his classic hypercarry team ?
Not an expert, but I think furina definitely improved wanderer teams. About his weapon, both of them are roughly equal. But if you're gonna use wanderer, you'll also want faruzan. And wanderer without shield feels horrible, you'll need a shielder. And since you're using furina, will the team be wanderer faruzan furina zhongli? No healer for furina. I'm not very sure.
With the units we have rn
You'd honestly be better off just sticking to faruzan Bennett Layla
U put faruzan and furina in team
So last slot will be either mika or baizhu for heals
Baizhu gives IR but doesn't rly buff wanderer while Layla can give wanderer cryo infusion for skill
Mika can too with atk speed buff but no IR
And IR is very important for wanderer
With high constellation furina maybe
Smtg like faruzan furina Layla
That said yet to see calc proving furina buff + dps > Bennett buff
Especially when faruzan alr helps with dmg bonus
@@killingtime8652You can throw in faruzan Bennett furina, and give Bennett a fuck ton of hp and healing bonus. You're more frail, but the dmg difference is significant.
Oh wow im in the video lmao
Would nahida prototype amber be better in this team or would her normal weapons suffice?
They suffice but u can use PA if you want
good video though old Alhaitham teams before Fontaine are very strong that's a waste to put Furina on the same team better to put her on the other team in my opinion
What other team? Neuvillette C1 does great without her. Furina shines with Alhaitham and Nahida. Wriothesley on the other hand does need Furina for his freeze teams but not everyone has him and ShitTao does well without Furina too.
Not rly ive tried both and the dmg difference is so little i use yelan and xq more
6:53 ahahhahhaa that joke really made my day, amazing video as always 👍
This team is cracked.... just tried it with C0 Al, C2 Furina, C3 Nahida, C4 Kuki
Baizhu, furina, raiden/kuki variant vs nahida, xq/yelan, kuki variant. Which one is better?
what would be more worth it in terms of hyperinvesting in this team, nahida c2, furina cons, or al haithams weapon?
Furina cons => Nahida consts > foliar
@@TheGenshinScientisttyty, i’ll be aiming for those cons on her rerun
Hi, good video. Just wanna say youre talking about 2 very diferent teams. One is pure hyperbloom, the other is quickbloom. To increase Hal damage, you reduce hyperbloom damage. Its a trade, not necessarily better. Btw, you didnt talk about how much time takes kuki heal to max Furina ult buff.
He covers that in the video. Shifting the balance towards quicken also increases effectiveness of Furina buff, since she does nothing for hyperbloom damage.
The real reason why you might get more damage from this team, however, is that you're "cheating" half a healing slot by using Kuki as your only healer against Furina.
This makes the team pretty fragile (his actual advice in the video is to just not get hit, lol), but if you have the skill to pull it off (I don't) then you get rewarded.
quickbloom is a fancy name for double dendro or double electro hyperbloom team. thats all. they are all hyperbloom teams
i thought you said that kuki wasn't a very good alternative to baizhu in cyno teams because EM build makes her healing "a bit shit", so what's the difference with this team? is it more to do with application rate of different elements? or just that yaoyao was a much better option in that team and we lack a better electro healer for this one so it's the best we can do?
Cyno will trigger most of Hyperblooms by himself if he is played iHB format, so Kuki's role consolidation doesnt really exist in that team, which is the main reason for playing her.
With Alhaitham she triggers hyperblooms and allows Alhaitham to spread due to slower hydro app from Furina and Nahida's overhwelming dendro app, and that is along with healing, which is further boosted by Furina's passive.
While you wont fully stack Furina, you will have an average of 40-50 stacks which is quite the boost for Alhaitham and Nahida's performance
The difference is the full uptime the skill has on this team compared to that, and the fact you get to swao around with characters more on this team compared to that so more chars receive active heals.
@@TheGenshinScientist thanks, that makes a lot of sense! i guess i was focusing only on hyperbloom damage when you said uptime rather than healing. it's a compatibility issue with cyno's 10/20s uptime/cooldown, and it would probably also be an issue for the shorter alhaitham rotation that most people were using when he first came out. definitely a pitfall to look out for
Hey TGS, I just want to know if R1-2 WF is better than R5 HoD for Alhaitham?
This is such an awesome video!!!! I was wondering about the best Alhaitham team just yesterday :D 💕
How much DPS would a Nahida (with an on field dps build) team do? Mine does 35k with her skill every 2 seconds, and 43k with furina (but less hyperblooms so in practice both teams perform similarly)
C6 Nahida with C6 Furina is hitting 180k Tri Karmas for me. (Bennett and C4 Raiden in it)
@@ElegantHysteria woahh that’s amazing!!! 💗💗🥳🥳 mines are only C0 OwO
Great video! Ive been trying to look into Furina more as an alhaitham main since I really want to play his teams where he does the bulk of the damage instead of just the hyperblooms. Im just wondering, what weapon would be best weapon for Nahida in this team? Would a dmg-oriented weapon still be better (like kagura, or sacfrag) than something like prototype amber which can help with Furina's stacks?
I had a feeling this would happen lol. Been saving and waiting for Alhaitham/Nahida since I began playing right before 3.8. And been getting Wolf-Fang since it was released, so I'm hopefully going to be prepared by the time Alhaitham comes around. Unfortunately, I only have C1 Kuki, though.
Not enough healing in this team via Kuki to offset the HP loss from Furina. Would rather stick with Yelan.
Would this team still be good if my Alhaitham was running HoD?
it can but it's gonna be harder to maintain above 90% HP even with PTA and Kuki.
My Nilou wants the key.
My Furina wants the key.
My Kuki wants the key.
When is the Nilou rerun? I need more of the key.
Even though it's so goddamn ugly.
From what i observed from analyzing after running this team many times is that the seed generation in this team is pretty slow, i find Kuki dealing 25% of the team's damage while Alhaitham stands at around 47-48% after some optimizer shenanigans. Swapping to a healing bonus circlet on Kuki seems worth it tbh, i might as well try 4 pc instructor on her lmfao
Would you recommend a more EM heavy supportive Nahida (eg Sac Frags) in this team, or a subdps one with smth like Widisth R5?
i'd say sub dps since on this team nahida's personal damage is a contributor here, though Nahida should go hold PTA here to help keep the team healthier, and don't worry about losing some personal damage since Furina is there.
@@usmanya5110 sac is still better than that crit dmg weapon even for sub dps and sac has overall more value anyways
@@eee2107 hmm... you have a point though since Widsith is RNG esque and the only thing Nahida doesn't want is the atk%.
I'm running alhaitham(HoD) with furina and if your dodging skill is good enough (which should be if you're on HoD)(also former beidou player) it is very viable weapon. Don't let internet discourage you from using furina with alhaitham (HoD) it will work fine
Hello tgs. Which one would be better? This team or Yelan c2+aqua instead of furina c0? others are also at c0 and Alhaitham has Foliar
I have played this team, and it does feel a lot more comfortable... Now I know why!
Hey TGS! I would just like to ask if Alhaitham can use an EM goblet with the Furina team or is Dendro DMG% still better?
Dendro dmg
Dendro DMG. He's not triggering the hyperblooms and you won't get max fanfare that fast with Kuki's single target healing
@@yuyue605 Thank you very much!
dendro is better but EM is not far off if u got better stats on EM goblet build.
i wanted to test yelan as an onfield dps with simulacra and c1 with xingqui ,kazuha,layla in 2nd team so in first team i didnt had any hydro unit to go with alhaitham so i used furina instead of other hydro applier instead of going quicken , NGL the burst damage with the mix of quicken and hyperbloom it went faster with furina than yelan or xingqui , now imma use this alhaitham furina comp instead
Now that Nahida is just around the corner, we just need an Alhaitham rerun and it'll be perfect
Can i use splendor on Alhaitham? Bcause i see that mirror damage is counted as ES damage and he can get the stack easily with Furina in the team
Can u plz make a short video or atleast share your thoughts on whether one should go for Raiden C2 or Nahida C2 and which one would provide better value to the account as a whole.
I personally was gonna go for Raiden C2, but after I knew Nahida is coming right after, I feel like I should go for her instead.
nahida c2 will be an upgrade for every dendro team, raiden c2 is great for just her personal dmg but out of the two go for whoever you like the most because abyss is easy enough to be cleared at c0 for these characters
furina c2 gives the best value
Neuvillette unfortunately made people forget how broken Alhaitham is, they are even starting to underestimate him, saying that Navia is the second best dps in the game, ahead of Alhaitham
she's not even Top 5 lol, this feels like a strawman
Nilou, Alhaitham, Hu Tao, Neuv, even Ayaka all better
@@ahumanperson1638 Nilou... DPS?
@@beaniemaveTeam dps
@@ahumanperson1638Nah I have Ayaka's premium team. Navia is just better even when I play switch and plug with her different teams.
No comments on Hu Tao since I don't have her, but I agree Neuvy and Haitham >>>
Ah yes the delusional navia mains
Hey @TGS, could you show of your Alhaitham Artifacts for this team or tell the ER requirements for him?
in my experience, i have 110% er but im still rocking fine bcs of nahida.
I personally use Haitham/Baizhu/Yae/Furina.
is it better or worse?
Worse
So you mentioned this is the best Alhaitham team. Is it better than Nahida xingqui Yelan and Kuki? Would Nahida Yelan furina Kuki be better than that? Also for Alhaitham is Mist Splitter good especially with M hunter artifact set?
I like it more than both honestly. And yea that setup works
marechaussee is a dps loss compared to 4pc gilded , EM is as important as crit dmg to alhaitham.
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz that’s not what the video said to my understanding so where is your source?
@@dakotadawes2893 ingame testing bozo
@@TheGenshinScientist Do you know or could you test Nahida Yelan and Furina at c2 with Kuki c6 at 1000 base em and everyone with best in slot weapon Vs this Alhaitham team with everyone c2 and Best in slot weapon.
If I run this team should I use prototype amber (r5) on nahida? (For a little bit extra healing, fan fare stacks and comfort) Or will it not be worth it ?(Meaning, will losing nahida damage make the team preform noticebly worse, the extra fan fare u gain with furina not worth it, etc.)Tldr, I usually use fav codex or oathsworn eye on nahida since I don't have many good catalysts and never felt the need to lvl r5 widsth. I can't test anything from my own account since I don't have alhaithm..(at least not yet)
Proto amber is worth it imo, Nahida does like 10% of the team's dps. Losing some damage on her isn't significant at all.
@@cornflakebutsilly unless ur nahida has sig/5 star weap, she aint losing dmg at all, proto amber gives fanfare stacks meaning it negates the dmg loss from swapping of the weapon.
ahh lmao I've been using this team since furina dropped. it just felt nice to use.
How to build Nahida on this team, EM DB EM or EM EM Crit? What is her best weapon outside of kaguras and her sig?
Em db em
Sacrificial fragment works fine
@@TheGenshinScientist thanks for the Quick answer!
A other think about Kuki, I just read the passive of the Doghands Assistent and it seems to be better than than Iron Sting in terms of comfort while still giving EM.
Is it worth to level it up, or is it just a sidegrade?
The end goal for a 4 star weapon will probably still be Xiphos, but this weapons gets no reruns sadly :/
@@weiseklinge yea it's p good!
potential for yoimiya with chevreuse that has fischl, beidou or bennet, etc?
i'm sure some ppl who either already have yoi or just got her are curious (myself included)
since yoi, fischl, beidou, chevreuse are all ranged it negates the problem of stuff being knocked away for the most part
Rn as a chev team is seen as pretty Gud
Overall tho can't rly think of a reason you'd use not use other units/team for them
been running this same team with Tighnari instead, it's great
because of the uptime. i'd probably sticked to my deepwood full EM with tons of HP substats kuki which could be helpful for multiwave, i just need dockhand or Key. the blooms are less and usually the difference in damage isn't that big between hyperblooms with GD or Deepwood isn't that big so it wouldn't matter that much, and i could run a more offensive set on nahida or maybe stick to Yaoyao. also it feels kinda scary running this team without fav weapon, maybe Furina can carry it?? i feel like for nahida she needs PTA obviously.
I don’t have kuki so can’t i use raiden instead she does a whole much more of dmg and gives great electro application the only downside is that the only source of healing can be from Furina
I run this in domains a lot but this is a bit difficult to pull of in the abyss especially against heavy hitters. Kuki's heal is not that strong. The only way to heal your party is by taking alhaitham's precious field time, using her pneuma form or by over healing alhaitham. I can over heal alhaitham just fine by dodging but still not enough to cover the whole team.
Will this HB team be stronger than my current Haitham team (C2R1 Haitham, R1 Yae, Nahida, Zl/Kuki)?
Im waiting on a off field partywide Electro healer and Geo healer then in terms of Futina synergy, Alhaitham and Itto,Navia somewhat will gain a lotta value and finally be able to use Furina very well.
Navia/Bennett/Zhongli/Furina already works very well and I doubt any geo healer will replace them- Bennett can viably heal the entire team due to Navia’s quick swap/low field time as well.
Unless the geo healer gives more buffs than zhongli does I doubt it'll do much for Navia unless 4 star option
unless that electro aoe healer can:
scales off EM
procs Hyperblooms
Good ICD/none
electro application every 0.6s/1s
aoe application
polearm user
doesnt have ER issues
shes not gonna be much of an increase.
i have jade cutter and furina's weapon and i dont have furina. should i give alhaitham furina's weapon or jade cutter ? i didnt see you talking about the weapon on alhaitham
Is Nahida significantly better than Baizhu that it’s worth playing her over getting better sustained heal?
Nahida with a Yelan/Xingqiu C6 is always better than Baizhu with Furina this video is only majorly talking about keeping Kuki and forcing furina in.
how good is Furina's weapon on Alhaitham?
Alhaitham Nahida and Furina feel overkill in one team, should Baizhu replaceble with Nahida? My Furina is c0, so kinda a struggle to get max stack without Baizhu or Jean
Somebody who understands how good she is on this team finally
The problem with Furina in Alhaitham's team with Kuki and Nahida is to get full buff with Furina's ultimate at C0, but It is a very good option with Furina C2.
Personally, I prefer Cyno, Furina, Nahida and Baizhu.
Me, with C6 Furina, C6 Nahida and C4 Raiden in my backpack:
My husbandos deserve the best suppports, so they get the bestest.
helppppp i am confused. i have kuki, yelan, raiden, nahida. i wanna build a team for our scribe. do i skip nahida? Do i use raiden or yelan? Do i give nahida em or crit?
9:21 do these results change depending on your alhaitham and nahida and investment cuz in my experience i get much better results using instructors on kuki over flop and gilded.
Yeah
how good does the team perform with keqing in al haithams slot, as compared to keqing aggravate?
I’d think it would be somewhat worse (at least compared to double hydro hyperbloom, regular aggravate, etc):
- Nahida would be solo Dendro, so you lose the EM buff from Dendro resonance and Electro resonance’s ER isn’t doing anything for Kuki and Keqing (although it may mean you can give up one ER substat on Furina)
- Keqing’s damage scaling is worse than Alhaitham and therefore she would not benefit as much from Furina
- Keqing will trigger many hyperblooms herself which would likely be half the damage of a full EM build’s hyperbloom
It would still clear Abyss like any mid-tier team though. (Each member is still contributing rather than being carried.)
@@studiesinflux1304 would the team be better if baizhu was used instead of kuki? (and maybe some more em subs than usual on keqing)
@@shishi2177 If you do that (Keqing, Furina, Baizhu), you’ll be running another variation of on field electro quickbloom. It would be similar to a Cyno team except Keqing is the main electro.
For this team, would it be more beneficial for the key pf kajnasut to used on a 28k hp kuki or a 41k hp furina?
imo “.”Furina’cuz using skill(close to enemy) +ult will almost guarante to activate the Key passive’but make sure u have enough ER on our queen Furina💗or if u need more healing(: use it on kuki cuz overall the dmg diff kinda smillar
Is it worth using furina's "healing tech" to help kuki with the healing? (Swap to furina, charge attack, E, Q, charge attack=2 healing ticks on her)
With extending rotation that much
And losing out of particles
Shouldn't
At 4:22, after Alhaitham Q, the NA was physical dmg for a few hits then turned into dendro dmg. I thought he only gets dendro infusion with E but not Q? I don't have him though that's why I'm not sure.
Also, is it better to switch nahida to baizhu for more healing = higher furina buff?
He gets infusion when he has mirrors, E Q and CA give him mirrors
burst gives his mirror (which gives infusion) after few seconds
and yes, it might be better off switching baizhu for furina. Plus less interruption for alhaitham
is nahida replaceable with baizhu? and kuki with fischl/raiden?
I play this exact team with Tighnari. It's amazing.
Is raiden instead of kuki better? I mean alhaitham, raiden, nahida furina?
kuki is a must, because she helps build Furina's fanfere (her skill that damages herself,also gives stacks)
@@johnmichaelpurba6523 what about this team?: haitham, raiden, furina/yelan, baizhu.
Getting a Raiden and Baizhu for Alhaitham + Furina teams is better than buying a Key of Khaj-Nisut for a 4 star character. Plus your Nahida gets to be free for another team.
I don't have Nahida so I use Alhaitam, Kuki, Yelan and Furina. And is my strongest team even tho my Alhatiam has the Iron sting (And no one with dendro shred). I wanted to pull for Nahida but honestly my team is already plenty strong and will most likely pull for CR for my Xiao.
if youre using al in this team you would switch his dendro dmg goblet to atk since he gets some off his ascension and furina right?
EM goblet*
@@irena4929 he gets a lot of em from nahida not enought atk since he has em sands
@@divinedividing6764It balanced out when u swap to mare hunter on him
@@irena4929 mare hunter doesn't give atk only cr and normal and charge attack dmg
@@divinedividing6764 yes its 72cv bro and he doesnt care about atk as much as em anyway
Kuki healing feels so bad to me... Id have to run Kuki with 2pc2pc healing bonus and or HB circlet to maybe feel better, or would I be losing too much HB damage? With Nahida buffing it seems fine. Since above 1k damage increase from EM falls off
2pc2pc is not too bad but you do want as close to 1000 EM as possible so HB circlet is a bad idea. The EM Kuki teams do require better dodging in Floor 12 than even Bennett teams so it's quite a high skill team. Use Alhaitham Baizhu Furina Raiden if Kuki is too hard to play. Other ways to make it better - replace Furina with XQ or give protype Amber to Nahida (both less damage loss than giving Kuki less EM)
Use prototype amber on nahida instead of making kuki heal more.’
My Alhaitham is with mist splitter and Yao Yao c1
So My total dendro dmg bonus is about 110%
Should I replace Dendro cup with EM cup to play with Furina?😅
I mean this sincerely and not dismissively: run an optimizer. There are general guidelines but there is no way of knowing unless you make calcs with buffs and your own artifacts in mind. (For example, my alhaitham runs an atk sands and it better than my EM sands 😅)