When Are Your Artifacts Good Enough? | Optimize Artifact Farming in Genshin Impact (Universal Guide)
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Which Genshin characters you should farm artifacts for first? When is your artifact quality good enough? By the end of this Genshin Impact guide video, I will teach you the optimal ways to build any genshin character, the breakpoints for artifact substat rolls, when to use the artifact strongbox, and more! You will have no more troubles optimizing your artifacts main stats and substats in Genshin.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:23 (v3.8) Efficient Artifact Farming Route
0:54 Artifact Main Stat Probability
1:55 Artifact Substats - Mechanics & Probability
4:18 Damage Optimization with Artifact Stats
7:27 Valuable Substats
8:50 Predicting Artifact Substat Rolls - When are artifacts worth rolling?
11:17 Substat Breakpoints and Efficient Substat Farming
12:25 Artifact Strongbox Value
13:33 Perfecting Artifacts
14:44 How long does it take to get optimal artifacts?
16:25 Outro
Calculations: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Follow up videos explaining probability calculations and the substat vs damage gain chart: • Artifact Probability C...
Spreadsheet for relative damage gain per substat: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Music credit:
1. • Sumeru OST - Hustle an...
2. • DKC2 - Forest Interlud...
3. • Life in the Mines (Don...
The rest of the music featured in the video can be found in HOYO-MiX's album, Forest of Jnana and Vidya.
Video assets credit:
genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik... - For the exact probabilities for artifact main stats, substats, and roll chance.
simpact.app/ - Genshin combat simulator. Good for viewing theoretical team DPS and character damage contribution.
Game footage from Genshin Impact.
Artifact optimizer:
frzyc.github.io/genshin-optim...
Random binomial distribution calculator:
homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~mbo...
More Vidmilo educational content: • Genshin Resources (Vid...
Special thanks to:
BB63, for assistance in video formatting and fact checking!
Patrick, for assistance with methodology in calculating initial valuable substat probability!
And, of course, everyone who has supported my UA-cam endeavors :)
This Genshin Impact video was produced by Vidmilo. Consider checking out my other Genshin guides / tutorials / deep dives to expand your game knowledge and hopefully learn something new!
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4.0 Artifact details have been revealed on Genshin's official website!
Golden Troupe: 2p: 20% Skill damage bonus, 4p: 25% skill damage bonus, another 25% if off field (up to 70% including 2p)
Marechausee Hunter: 2p: 15% NA/CA DMG bonus, 4p: 12% Crit rate for every HP change, max 3 stacks (36%), stacks last 5s.
All artifacts released before update 3.0 have been added to the strongbox. Tenacity is a really nice one, since pale flame is an underwhelming set. Include that in the list with Noblesse and VV strongbox. Also, I do want to mention Crimson witch and Thundering fury strongboxes, since they allow you to avoid thundersoother and lavawalker, which aren't BiS for anyone currently. Crimson also has heavy emphasis on substats, so the strongbox helps out in that department slightly. Emblem strongbox also lets you avoid Shimenawa, which isn't always a good set to farm for if you don't have the on fielders that make good use of it, or farmed a different set for them already.
Overall, the new artifacts are very strong, but we currently don't have too many characters that can really capitalize on these sets where it's their definite BiS, apart from Fischl and Lyney. Not sure about Lynette.
The skill set is also decent on Yae and Albedo, but not their definite BiS. Most characters for now don't pack a lot of power in their skill, nor do most change/drain HP frequently enough to keep up Hunter stacks. I'm sure this will change as more Fontaine characters get added. For now, the new domain is not general enough for me to recommend it for everyone. 4p Hunter might end up being a nice casual set since it gives a rarer stat innately, even if the stat isn't stronger than what other sets can give.
If you're playing Lyney or Fischl teams, you can farm the new artifact domain and potentially strongbox emblem pieces for a better chance at improving your existing set. You should no longer farm the Emblem domain for too long, since it's going to save you a lot of trouble if you instead strongbox for higher quality pieces. Deepwood and Gilded is now arguably the most efficient domain to farm for, especially for lower investment accounts.
Going to add some extra stuff about the video that I missed / cut out. Also, there is a follow up on my second channel overviewing the calculations I did (finally)
First: I accidentally said that +20 artifacts is the "most efficient improvement" you can make. A more accurate statement would be that it's much more efficient than grinding for substats, and about as efficient as talents, weapons, character level. I did say that +20 artifacts followed those things, i.e. came after, but the "most efficient" statement definitely detracted some of the value there.
Second: Some characters have built in dual scaling, meaning increasing one stat boosts another (Nahida's EM boosing crit rate and damage bonus, Alhaitham, etc). This can skew individual characters' damage gain charts in different ways compared to the example I showed with only vaporize and melt for Xiangling. Basically, not all sources of EM have the same form or any real form of true diminishing returns.
Third: I left this out of the video, but you will get off piece artifacts from 2 and 4 piece sets that you can use to make your build stronger. In general, choose the one that gives the largest net increase.
Fourth: A small error, at about 7:11, I wrote crit multiplier instead of crit value for the catch's 12% crit rate increase. A 24% crit value increase translates into a bigger crit multiplier that varies depending on the amount of crit value the character starts with.
Lastly, I accidentally forgot to emphasize the importance of getting specific 4 piece sets, like viridescent venerer, from the strongbox, simply for how strong the 4p effect is.
Remember, having many "subpar" substats (flat stats included!) can still make those pieces stronger than an alternative with fewer, but more valuable substats.
I would also like to mention a tool that you can use to discover what your optimal artifact setup is for specific characters in teams. frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer - this provides pretty much everything you need to get accurate optimizations once you import your artifacts and characters.
Best of luck with your artifacts journey!
Artifact calculations: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vfrKPKe2eyz1dtHJT6u8J1TMBf_x5bbLwhzmJc25-kA
Take them with a grain of salt, these are estimates and won't be completely accurate.
Is it ok to mention when you can consider using a relevant 2pc 2pc instead of a 4pc?
4pc sets have a varying degree of strength and the most notable one is arguably blizzard strayer. It's 12 avg rolls worth of what is arguably the most important offensive stat (i personally feel its er).
I.e. You can go 2pc cryo and 2pc gladiator for roughly similar dmg results when you have 9 extra substats.
Or for 4pc emblem, if your character has 200 er, its fine to go 2pc emblem, 2pc noblesse at 6 extra subs.
I believe strayer is the highest value artifact set in the game so it should average between 4-9 subs between major 4pc vs 2pc/2pc. Unless niche scenarios where character needs the 4pc for a mechanic or support sets. Pale flame might be 3 subs lol
Feel free to remove this comment if you believe its incorrect.
Now personal thought: i dont like the emblem domain. I believe shime 4pc is a very grief set (have yoi and tao) and it shouldnt be used at all. For yoi specifically, it directly competes with her burst, a4, sig bow and c1. 3 of which i believe are quite important, a4 is meh.
@@stelixhyx808 Agreed, well said with the 2p2p versus 4p point, though for some, the deficit can be more costly. I do think 4p shime is a bit more nuanced.
Theoretically it's a set that falls behind, but since it can help better frontload damage, it has the potential assist in clearing waves or abyss chambers in comparable or faster time versus sets with more complete synergy. Even if it isn't always ideal, I still consider the 4p viable or even on par to others in certain situations, but do recognize its downsides. Overall, it's a very selfish set that can either help or hurt a character, depending on a lot of surrounding variables.
Thats some extra stuff
Question
are you an english major?
@@spoiledkid3591 No, going into my first year of college/uni in september (for engineering)
id be sobbing if not for the last two minutes of the video. added a layer of humanity to the monstrosity that is artifact farming.
Insted of sobbing you can be subbing!
It is Indeed a mental torture, this artifact farming.
dw, Xiangling is op even with mid artifacts :D
Meanwhile me: keep on farming the crimsons everyday despite having a 70/256 hu tao
Well you know, its designed to be like this where it can always improve, so it keeps you occupied everyday, even when you have nothing to do 😂 in that regard artifacts served its job very well
This is why the least MiHoYo could do is implement some sort of artifact reset feature. Nothing is more frustrating than getting a great artifact and every single fucking roll goes into flat def..........................................
I'm trying to build xiangling these days and yes, it DOES feel like it's been 530 million years
Same, all I got is a semi respectable sands and feather.
I've been trying to EM on kazuha for weeks and I keep getting laughably bad substats, or perfect substats (em, exchange, cr/cd) with hp/def/or healing bonus.
Depending on team comps, you can lower your requirements for stats on Xiangling. I often pair my Xiangling with Bennett so her Atk and ER isn't as important as EM, dmg bonus and crit since I can battery Xiangling and snapshot Bennett's huge atk buff.
Personally, I find Xiangling to work perfectly even with low investment or poor stats as long as you play well since a lot of stats she gets free from Bennett. She's a really f2p-friendly character.
This is everything a player needs to know in one nicely packed video. You’re one of the only people who mentions the fact that you can only get certain stats on certain types of pieces, and the low-high rolls. Awesome work!
bro i dont understnad anything 😭
It's basically don't aim for the best, aim for low to mid artifact value after getting the main state u want pretty much
This is the very very simplified explanation
Way too complicated imo
Literally everyone mentions the stats and rolls dude. Who have you watched that doesn't?
This video made me feel better about lacking double crit pyro and hydro goblets for the 2 years I’ve been playing
I got a double crit hydro goblet that rolled well the other week and it felt like I was looking into the face of god
oh so its like that. I thought Its just me having a insanely hard time without those goblets :/
I got 2 pyro goblets about 40cv, one of them is shimenava but don't have any hydro with cr, my best hydro got 13cd😂
Yeah I’m doing fine everywhere but pyro pretty much
all my three pyro cups are 20cv and i use XL and hu tao but then i got 45cv dendro goblet and no one to plan to use it on 😭
Just wanted to point out that if you use characters which main DPS or Support is from their burst, always focus on ER it makes game so much more fun and just after you have enough ER then you can think about DPS main or substats. For example Xiangling with 70/140 CR/CD but with low ER feels way worse than 50/100 CR/CD and enough ER.
How much ER do you use on Xiangling usually? I use something like 230 ER, and that feels like a bit too much.
@@arjunmuruganandam3373 depend on the team innit? I like 250 ER on team like Melt ganyu but only 150-180 on rational and 200 for general use so I just let it stay on about 220 with the catch so that I could use her anywhere without worry even if it does feels too much sometimes, at least I don't need to change her artifact too often
This is also why I'm glad I have been playing since release since now I have almost enough artifact for all my character (35+ that I'm using) so I can just plug and play without having to manually change their artifact everytime I want to change team
@@arjunmuruganandam3373 I have right now 210 ER with my Xiangling in international team, and it feels barely enough.
If you have no other pyro units in team to funnel energy to her you definetaly need more.
Also it depends on if you using Favonious weapons on other characters in team.
Disclaimer - I am very casual player have no idea how to do good rotations and using Zhongli almost everythere to avoid dodging, so if you can funnel energy to Xiangling perfectly every time - you need less ER.
@@MrWorldOfQuests If youre using her in national try to always use guoba and bennett e when you can, to generate pyro particles, doing it like that youll always have her burst ready every rotation. Also, do rotations like this: Raiden e, xing 2e q (if you have sacrificial to do 2 e), bennet burst e, then xiangling e q, then raiden q. That way, all team benefits from all the particles xingqiu generates, and xiangling will benefit from the particles of bennett when you switch to her.
SO TRUE i used to get my yelan 80 and 160 but had almost no er now its abit less 70 140 but er is 230 and it does less damage but i always have my ult
He is so kind, he even caculated the time to grind perfectly.
I don't know how people achieved 54.4 crit-value artifacts.
me with a 52.2 cv cryo cup so close
@@ryanm9257 I have a 49.9 (or .8, don't remember) geo goblet, but it's ~21 crit rate, 6 crit damage, 6.6% def and ER. can't ask for more, each stat is perfect, only the rolls aren't (they're hella good though so it's still a win)
Luck. A pure fkin luck
@@ryanm9257i got 11.3cr, 19.4cd, 9.9atk%, 4.5er on cryo dmg bonous
hehe
I truly, with my whole being, envy them. I've been playing since day one and I don't have anything beyond ±42 CV 😭
*Me getting ready for a 500 million year grind*
"And that's why you shouldn't bother with getting perfect artifacts with all crit rolls"
oh..
Gonna need a lot of Redbulls for this one
The presentation of the information is absolutely stellar! ✨ Can't believe you've only made three videos as the quality is fantastic. Thank you so much for your work, I have learned a lot. 😊
I must disagree, some tables are extremely confusing and not clearly labeled or too brief, while the surrounding text only adds to the confusion with far too many abbreviations or omissions
extremely well presented! you've expressed and communicated these concepts that I've intuited after playing for nearly 3 years, but struggled to put to words myself. especially just how absurd it is to chase quality substats at high investment after already having arts with a high quantity of usable substats
this is pure perfection. thanks for giving what I was looking for keep it up
I've only been playing Genshin for about 4 months and I finally understand wtf I'm doing now that I'm in the artifact farming stage thanks to this video. They say if you can teach a beginner a complex topic and they come away with more understand than they started with, you're an amazing teacher.
Bravo!
seriously, your videos are so interesting. Really makes me have another completely different perspective to artifact farming. A big thank you for the great content
Wow, this has to be the best artifact video here on youtube, I mean, through the data on the genshin wiki and from playing I figured out a decent way to farm artifacts so far. But this video goes above and beyond on setting expectations for your artifacts. Thank you very much, this will definitely help me and a ton of others grind out artifacts more efficiently. Instant sub.
Dude I love your probability content it really shows your work with your graphs keep up
Clear and concise and extremely professional. Straight up, this is one of those rare perfect guides
very cohesive, informative and helpful! thank you!! feels like a lecture and i'll be rewatching later to get a better grasp
As a long-time Genshin player, this video was a great in-depth look at artifact math and I really appreciated it! You must have put a lot of work into it. However, I'd love to see in the future shorter, more simplified version of this video aimed at casuals. I'd love to link this to some of my more casual Genshin friends who'd love to know how to optimize better, but I know they won't watch it, because as soon as you start talking about math and charts, their eyes glaze over.
Even as a 1.0 player, this an extremely handy guide to have. Just the sheer amount of information and data packed here is useful as hell. Great job on the video!
is it tho? 😅
Good work Milo, you've done some amazing analysis.
Again, concise, informative, and useful for players of all experience.
thats the type of guide im always looking for. With very fancy animations and circles around specific things you are talking about at that time(like if you'd be explaining stuff to an ape). Ty for the great work
Already know it's about to be an informative banger 🔥🔥
This is the best video I've seen on genshin in a while, I've been fed up with mindless entertainment for a ehile that something as well made and informative as this is nice change of pace. I hope you keep making more videos like this. And wishing you good luck on your journey in life
Excellent video summarizing what you would intuitively pick up only after years of playing and hours of mixing/matching different combinations on the Optimizer.
This is probably the best video i would recommend to every single Genshin player that has some interest in theorycrafting and artifact optimization... cause it has insane quality, very good editing, easy explanation and some graphs accompanied by some good examples! Best video in the category (imo)
I never knew I needed a video like this but damn I did. Thanks for your hard work man, keep it up!
wow, everything from the script, your editing, and voice - so good! I had no clue what to invest my resin into for a long time now because everything in my account already felt good enough. At least your video has provided me with much needed direction.
Subscribed yesterday, was really sad to see there were only 2 videos. Just to have another drop the next day. Ty for your work!
Hope you enjoyed! More content is on the way!
@@Vidmiloo I sure did, I just started a fresh account after a 2 years break, your videos will be a huge help for me to optimize my primos/resin.
This is a very impressive, informative, and well done video 👏🏻 Pacing, visuals, and narrative are high quality. I hope this video gets the traction it deserves. Well done!
Finally, the video we all needed but no one was willing to make
Thank you sir!
this is amazing editing and I got to learn a lot more about the game now, thanks
Great video I was just looking for a good artifact farming guide, I have been playing this game for almost 1.5 years and still I learned a lot of new things.
I already know all of this and am still watching,the vid is really well made and addressed a few very key points
I love your UA-cam Channel and I'm so glad I found it! I love analysing and perfecting all the aspects of a game I play and I'm a huge fan of probabilities. So your videos are very enjoyable for me, thank you!
Love the video my guy, really helped alot. Been a year and a bit since I've played and now this is what I needed back then but no one had. Cheers!
I keep coming back to this video for the specific parts but your music choice is so good I usually just let the video play out.
Amazingly done video! Saved and sent to some friends! Hope to see more in the future!
i can't believe you dropped the most informative videos on the platform and just dipped
the genshin fans have a the ability to be the most inteligent people in the planet but instead they just do maths on how to rolls artifacts👺👺
this is basic math
Which is an intellectual activity? I fail to see the point.
This is EXACTLY what I needed rn awesome!
Great video! I made my own math breakdown of artifact farming in a notepad app in my phone last year to determine how good my artifact stats are and decide whether to keep farming for a specific piece/set. From now on I'll refer to this since this is much cleaner and way more comprehensive.
I swear to God this is the greatest video I’ve ever watched on the game the amount of knowledge you have given me ❤❤❤
I am a fairly new player with only one and a half good teams (hyperbloom/nilou bloom, so there is overlap), so the advice on getting a more focused spread of artifacts that may not be BiS but see broad use is INCREDIBLY helpful. I want to be able to try out a variety of teams, so having a more resin-efficient way of gearing means I can divert more resources to leveling/ascention for new characters. Thank you so much!
Now this is the quality Genshin content I wish for. Great video man 🎉
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD VIDEO!! THE VISUALS LIKE, I CANT IMAGING HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT YOU PUT IN TO ORGANIZE ALL THE DATA AND PLACE IT IN A NICE AND COMPRESSED VIDEO. THANKS YOU VERY MCUH FOR THIS VIDEO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!
Extremely concise and informative. Very well put together. Thanks for the amazing video! Subscribed!
I was waiting for this video for agess ..
Thanks for updating me
Well explained!
I love the way you put things into perspective
I'll definitely refer those who need advice to this video
Thank you!
very good presentation of information! thank you so much for making this video!
Quite informative! I would love to see more videos like this. 👍🏻😃
Extremely well put together video for the more meta player. This is very useful.
This video was very well made and informative, thanks milo, keep up the good work ❤
Great video! Really nice quality and presentation of the information.
The presentation was so so so good
Well researched
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This was extremely well done thank you soo much genuinely.
Really good video. Very educational and easily understandable. Easiest sub of my life.
this is so in depth i just cant not sub, real quality explanation right there
This video is just perfect! Thanks for all the hard work.
Amazing video! I know for a lot of players the numbers are the fun part of the game. I’m more in it for the characters and story, but obvs love a good big number as much as the next person. This video explains the stats in such an easy way even a maths dummy like me can understand! Thank you!
I think this is the first video of yours I've seen, but I have to subscribe for this kind of quality. Amazing video!
This hurt my brain but it gave me SOME insight now.
Im subbing, and liking, and sharing it with friends given how much effort was put in this.
Thank you 💖💖💖
Thank you, this was much needed
that's what I call a good guide, thanks man
This video prooves once more that we need to get rid of the resin system once and for all
keep up the awesome work, these vids have tremendous detail in unexplored topics!
Oh hey! I've been watching your guides for a while, and really appreciate the thoroughness of them, awesome to see you here!
Hope you enjoyed :)
@@Vidmiloo yep I did enjoy it! I made a vid recently showing my acc and character builds. I wonder what the farming odds are on my hu tao since she has stacked artifacts 😅
Rarely commenting and liking videos but I really appreciate the effort behind your's so here I am
Subbed brother. All three videos you've put out are concise, very informative and I've even learned a couple things more concretely because of them. I say this having played since the game came out, so I didn't really expect to learn anything new going into it as I do a bit of maths/researching myself, but the way you present the information is very well done.
I am a long time genshin player but this video is so good and there is so much work in it I watched til the end even tho I know all of it. Thank you for making such a video looking forward for more but dont overdo it.
Stay save and healthy and you gained another follower❤
This content is what every player what is 45+ needs. So compact but so informative keep it up homie👍🏽
i've played a bunch of rng substat game and i can definitely say this is a great vid esp for people who's new to this kind of game and is having trouble deciding where and how to start and improve their gear
This video made me realise that my futile grinding of "perfect" pieces is....... futile(in a good way).
What a well put video, keep making more of these man 👏👏👏
thank you for this clear and thourough presentation, I was looking for that it is a really good guide
also... the math in this is unhinged and this is exactlly what I needed
Subscribed. A lot on important information on artifact farming.
hm your so organized! i appreciate that very much. ty for the info.
Heyyyy finally
I was waiting for this for a long time
Your guide was extremely well-made and educational. And the choice of donkey kong country music just goes to show how good your taste is.
this was a great video! congratulations
I hope you're still making videos! I love these guided since I'm trying my best to remove myself from too much needless grind and enjoy more characters. So these guides help a lot❤
Yep, the next video should be coming very soon! I've just had a lot less free time lately, but I've been working on this next one (along with a few other projects) for a couple months now. I hope you find them useful once they come out :)
How are the Projects going?
Wow. This is the most efficiently this has ever been explained
Finally someone who produced a helpful min max guide for artifacts. A lot of times I'm note certain which artifact to prioritize based on highest upgrade chance. But with the baseline rolls for base, high and peak investment I can easily filter this out now and go for the artifact with the highest upgrade chance.
I've been searching for this kind of guide for a while now. Finally, someone made it right
I'm only 1 minute in and I'm so amazed by the quality of the video. It's so easy to understand, concise and well put together. It feels almost illegal to watch this for free xd
Dang, while I was watching I thought this was made by some huge or otherwise well known UA-camr. I did not expect you to have only 6k subs! Great video, and subbed. Please keep making these! Maybe a video on elemental gauge theory?
Best video on this topic.
Great presentation to teach the playerbase.
Unlike those theory crafters out there who just talk and talk and talk and talk without bothering to learn proper presentation skills , video editing skills and how their target audience would learn.
Looks like for all the brains these other theory crafters have , they don't have common sense to have empathy for how people view their content.
You got a well deserved sub from me.
Edit : another note, on average most popular videos would get 1-2% likes to views ratio. You got a healthy 7.5% like ratio. well done.
One must imagine genshin players happy.
Actual instant sub. Fantastic content - so helpful to bridge the gap between a casual and a tryhard.
This channel needs more recognition
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Amazing content, I forgot I was subbed since I saw the first video lol. This is another gem for data driven gamers like me, thanks!!
I like these kind of videos. i think you would do nice if you make a category of videos on how to build a character depending on what they would substats would be best for them depending on their kits.
Yes this video! Hope it will make my artifact grind more efficiently
bro ure so underrated, keep it up bro, looking forward for u on the top. god bless!
Incredible content. Keep up the good work
Fantastitc Video. I will watch it again another time. This is so well researched and should be bookmarked by everyone who wants to get the most out of their account.
that was awesome! thank you so much
This is an extraodinary video that highlights all the data analytics behind artifact farming, presented in digestible stamps. I think a follow-up of great value would a dedicated video on the main rules of thumbs and concepts in a team use-case. It would be tremendous to see that workflow live.
Perhaps start with a team, identify the heavy hitters and their valuable substats, and demonstrate the returns on upgrading artifacts in your value buckets. It would be great to see what is the MVP for Abyss clears in terms of which characters own artifacts in certain buckets.
When you eventually get burned out and can't possibly keep doing the domain without losing your mind, that's when you just accept what you have as good enough and move on
This is awesome. I just wished you had spent a little more time on how the increased damage potential on improving artifacts falls off and the breakpoints at which you should spend your resin on other things. One problem that's come from watching a lot of content creators is that a large population of players almost exclusively use their resin on artifact domains at high investment on characters when increasing talents or even character level would be a bigger increase to their damage. It also kind of throws off the game's economy and makes it seem like the game doesn't give you enough resources to invest into characters.
Its better for entertainement as it is basically gambling with huge potential. Getting a deep wood EM helmet with 4 BiS subs sounds more hype than getting 2 golden talents books.
While one is more likely to happen than the other, you know why desperate odds makes the gamble more exciting as well as the payoff.
I think it is also because the highest artifact domains gurantee a 5star
While talent books don't
@@Grim_Bud usually youtubers or streamers invest already some money at least on BP which helps more with Talent Books and reduce the upgrade process before artifact farming. That's why I guess they also have talent materials bundles.
great video dude, you're talented