This a very helpful idea to all viewer of DIY (Do It Yourself). It means if don't have any carbs you can the idea from Vladimir again. So next time do not throw you old carburetor. Again thank you very very much Vladimir the Great. Hope the conversion kit manufacturer will not get angry from you. I already use my gen set with LPG gas without the conversion kit withe help of your other videos. Gasoline cannot be stored for several months but LPG wow ready to fire your Gen-set any time even after few months. Thanks a lot and God Bless
Great job! Vlad. Serves the purpose exactly. There are always risks. But you have covered the theory fully. Way more than most could dream of. Can everyone operate this safely? Probably not, and that’s because most of those people don’t really understand basic physics and if it’s not a turnkey operation, they’re up the creek without a paddle. Thank you for sharing.
This was just my very first discovery about natural gas and air mixture. I did improve this invention by installing automatic throttle inside the pipe which I made from nickel and little shaft from old carburetor and it worked perfectly for me every time I used it. Then I had someone interested in it so I sold it. I believe the generator was safe to use, it just needed more permanent gas hose. And it does not need to be a big hose. 10 HP engine doesn't need large supply of gas.
I'm impressed. Only problem is you need the valve on the pipe open to allow it to mix air with natural gas. If left and unattended and it stalls, the propane will come out of that valve as you have no automatic shut off.
That's pretty good but the problem is that there is no governor to handle different loads automatically. You are the governor. It's too bad they don't sell the carb conversion for the Briggs. I bought a tri fuel carburetor for my small Chinese engine on e-bay for $38. Took only 4 or 5 minutes to install and I was good to go. And you are right about the hose size. I use a hose on my 3.6KW generator that has an inner diameter of about a 1/4 inch. I cringe when I see these guys buy these large and very expensive hoses just to run a small engine. They are spending more on the conversion kit and hose than I spent on my brand new generator and carb conversion.
Deucealive75 I think with this gentleman is trying to show is in a pinch with a little ingenuity you can survive,,,we had straight-line wind a while back in my area that pulled electric poles up out of the ground for miles no one had any electricity in our little village for right around three weeks one year and it was 98° and more outside,,,, I had two big generators(one for my mother and myself) I had to drive to the next county to buy gas for them because nobody in our area had electric not even the gas station,,, it cost me $68 a day to run those two generators $68 every 24 hours,,, I was starting to run out of money gas was pretty high back then,,,learning how to use natural gas in an emergency situation like this saved my 🥓 🥓 bacon,,,I was running Kohler engine oil 10W-30 And I ran them 24 seven shut them down to check the oil every two days,,,,I had a great big giant yellow mcCalla from tsc (it had a 11 hp Honda clone what they call a Chonda 5700 W generator down at at my mothers place and a 4000 W generator from Menards(Chinese job) down here at my place and we got by all right,,, I think God we both have natural gas grills it was very easy to run off of that into the generators,,, we had those gas grills installed years ago and they work out rather well themselves,,,, since then I have installed a little bit of solar I still have my big giant generators however I also bought a 2000 W champion digital inverter generator much smaller uses much less fuel and I also bought a Honda EU 2000 digital inverter again uses much less ⛽️ fuel.......
Hey! Kindly want to ask, what prevents the natural gas from escaping through the air inlet control vent? Do you have any valve there? I have made something similar... and I notice that the natural gas is also escaping out from the air inlet. Thanks for your response.
I have 3/4” pipe w/shut off valve how far can I run 1/2” hose from house so my 420cc generator 8750/ 7,000 running watts will get enough NG? I was planning on 1/2” hose about 25 to 30 feet let me know how far I can go with hose size. Thanks
This would actually work, just by holding the tubing next to the intake. Of course that is impractical. My concern would be; a backfire of the engine would put momentary excess pressure on the meter and the house appliances. Not sure how that would work out. Nice demo, thanks.
This is a good idea, but only if you are missing a carb. No one should take their carb off of a motor for this. With a direct connection like this, you force flow to a certain degree only to keep engine running. If a load hits the generator, you would have to run out to genset, increase gas, and adjust at the air. Then when load inceased you would have to do everything in reverse. So while neat, no cigar.
+David VanMeter I think I do have video of final product but I didn't share it since there was not much interest in it. It was still running with out the gas regulator, I just adjusted the gas and air flow with medium load on it and the throttle was doing the rest of the job. It was actually working pretty good if I didn't have any big power surge. It started very easy when it was cold but I had hard time to start it when it was hot, no idea why. This small Husky gen I just converted is running like champ any time. You can see it in other video. I got into these conversions because of lot of problems with carbs and gasoline. Also water will accumulate in gas tank if you don't keep it full all the time because of the humidity here. So if you don't use the gen very often it is much better to run it on nat. gas or propane.
Great idea, but just feed the natural gas into the dry carb's large vacuum hose and use the carb as a throttle body. That way you won't need 7 extra hands to get the fuel mixture right every time lol.
@@tysesty, I've seen this done with the carb in place. You put a gas valve like you're using on the engine close to the carb, then pipe it with a flexible BBQ gas line from a shutoff at the house to the generator. then you have all the controls next to one another. I never said you had the carb, just said it was a better idea.
@@tysesty For that matter you can run a gas engine with a rag that's damp with gasoline using your hand to carburete the air-fuel mixture. I'm not a moron, just prefer talking about the details of how something works.
@@tysesty, I got that, but still, it doesn't make it very practical when most people do have a carburetor on their generator. I figured you'd be done hashing over this by now. Although I can play the game well, I'm not at all interested in slinging passive-aggressive insults back and forth. Enjoy your creation, I was just adding to a more realistic way lol.
do you have idea how to make variable choke? I am thinking how to swap my gasoline motorbike to gas and need to find better way to increase/decrease gas opening. it is great video, thanks for sharing! :)
Vladimir TySesTy Thanks for sharing That looks good but how do you control the engine RPM Under load if that engine is not spinning at 3000 RPM you will usually burn out the coated wiring on your stator.but looks good
not something I would attempt without my conversion kit, but it's smart. Is it as safe as using a regulator from a conversion kit? I'm also surprised it can run with such a narrow fuel hose. Cool video.
good job man. dont listen to all these idiots that have no mechanical sense whatsoever. it works and its practical. and if he has a regulator valve it want explode.
I converted a briggs and stratton engine to run on propane and it worked brilliantly until something fucked up. The ignition system still works perfectly, I have taken the engine apart and nothing is damaged. It must have been cursed.
Not a good idea no governor to prevent over revving the engine which would cause the engine to blow up and then natural gas would be administered to the atmosphere if your neighbor let his barbecue grill to cook you have an explosion
One big problem, respectfully,..you don't know or understand properly how a generator works. Allow me to explain, these types of mobile gasoline generators have governors that are linked to the carburetor and for good reason. These generators are made to run at a constant speed of 3500 r.p.m,... why ? because at 3500 r.p.m that is where the generator will efficiently produce 110 AC Volts @ 60 herts(VAC) ( many models also have 220 volt outputs) There is also a AVR, Automatic Voltage Regulator in the generator to help control the voltage. When you plug something into the power outlet socket of the generator it will obviously draw power, different appliances, lights, tools etc that you plug into the generator require the same voltage of 110 but will require different Amperage (Amps) Example: a power tools such as a circular saw will draw a higher amperage than a 40watt light bulb even though they both run at 110 volts, the circular saw will put a higher strain/load on the generator and want to slow down the engine r.p.m and thus this is where the GOVERNOR will automatically increase the power (throttle) of the engine to keep it running at 3500 r.p.m. So ,...whoever removed the carburetor along with the governor linkage that was connected to it you also remove the possibility to control the engine r.p.m at a constant 3500 r.p.m, and that will prevent the voltage outputs to stay at a constant 110 volts. They sell generator LP gas kits that you simply bolt on to the carburetor and come with a LP gas regulator, this way you keep the governor intact and you have a stable engine running @3500 r.p.m. also you will have the capability of running on either gasoline or LP (Liquid Propane) This method you show is not advised, it is dangerous and does not keep the engine running at a constant 3500 r.p.m for proper voltage depending on what is plugged into the generator. Oh, one last thing,,,, your set-up the way it is connected at the moment in this video to the main house natural gas line is 100% illegal in all 50 states !! there is a proper way to connect it to the main line, but not how it is in your video.
That is very good explanation, thank you. Would you be so nice and explain also why is there short rubber hose between filter box and valvecrankcase? Thank you.
@@VladFredK The following link is a invention ; yours is a experiment, just clearing that up for you. Could be a language thing. Thanks for your service. It is worth what it cost. Not trying to give you hard time. Just helping you see its a hack not a invention. www.amazon.com/Hutch-Mountain-EU2200i-Gasoline-Generator/dp/B07BHBLFN4?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
@@transformed613 actually your link would be a hack also, I don't see much difference here except my is home bench made and their is factory made....... So this is a hack too right ua-cam.com/video/7q0T28k90T0/v-deo.html because is home made. Let me explain to you why I called my conversion invention. I came up with it on my own, I did't copy anyone, I just experimented until I made it work. No hard feelings, just explaining my self. Time for a beer ... cheers
You gotta love this guy's ability to think outside the box. I'm glad I don't live next door however: collateral damage and all that :)
This a very helpful idea to all viewer of DIY (Do It Yourself). It means if don't have any carbs you can the idea from Vladimir again. So next time do not throw you old carburetor. Again thank you very very much Vladimir the Great. Hope the conversion kit manufacturer will not get angry from you. I already use my gen set with LPG gas without the conversion kit withe help of your other videos. Gasoline cannot be stored for several months but LPG wow ready to fire your Gen-set any time even after few months.
Thanks a lot and God Bless
Great job! Vlad. Serves the purpose exactly. There are always risks. But you have covered the theory fully. Way more than most could dream of. Can everyone operate this safely? Probably not, and that’s because most of those people don’t really understand basic physics and if it’s not a turnkey operation, they’re up the creek without a paddle. Thank you for sharing.
This was just my very first discovery about natural gas and air mixture. I did improve this invention by installing automatic throttle inside the pipe which I made from nickel and little shaft from old carburetor and it worked perfectly for me every time I used it. Then I had someone interested in it so I sold it. I believe the generator was safe to use, it just needed more permanent gas hose. And it does not need to be a big hose. 10 HP engine doesn't need large supply of gas.
Needs an air filter though.
@@theautodan7095 only if it's working in a dusty environment
That's really creative. "Heath Robinson" as the saying goes! Just good old down to basics.
Great idea. I understand the risks, if I needed power and couldn't get gas, I would do this in a heartbeat.
Thank you for teaching me how to build this in the most Epic way.
I'm impressed. Only problem is you need the valve on the pipe open to allow it to mix air with natural gas. If left and unattended and it stalls, the propane will come out of that valve as you have no automatic shut off.
Nice job Vladimir, very creative.Thank you
That's pretty good but the problem is that there is no governor to handle different loads automatically. You are the governor. It's too bad they don't sell the carb conversion for the Briggs. I bought a tri fuel carburetor for my small Chinese engine on e-bay for $38. Took only 4 or 5 minutes to install and I was good to go. And you are right about the hose size. I use a hose on my 3.6KW generator that has an inner diameter of about a 1/4 inch. I cringe when I see these guys buy these large and very expensive hoses just to run a small engine. They are spending more on the conversion kit and hose than I spent on my brand new generator and carb conversion.
just curious, who sales this carburetors? can you send a link to it?
Thanks.
Deucealive75 right no governor means engine will not do as it is made to do
Deucealive75 I think with this gentleman is trying to show is in a pinch with a little ingenuity you can survive,,,we had straight-line wind a while back in my area that pulled electric poles up out of the ground for miles no one had any electricity in our little village for right around three weeks one year and it was 98° and more outside,,,, I had two big generators(one for my mother and myself) I had to drive to the next county to buy gas for them because nobody in our area had electric not even the gas station,,, it cost me $68 a day to run those two generators $68 every 24 hours,,, I was starting to run out of money gas was pretty high back then,,,learning how to use natural gas in an emergency situation like this saved my 🥓 🥓 bacon,,,I was running Kohler engine oil 10W-30 And I ran them 24 seven shut them down to check the oil every two days,,,,I had a great big giant yellow mcCalla from tsc (it had a 11 hp Honda clone what they call a Chonda 5700 W generator down at at my mothers place and a 4000 W generator from Menards(Chinese job) down here at my place and we got by all right,,, I think God we both have natural gas grills it was very easy to run off of that into the generators,,, we had those gas grills installed years ago and they work out rather well themselves,,,, since then I have installed a little bit of solar I still have my big giant generators however I also bought a 2000 W champion digital inverter generator much smaller uses much less fuel and I also bought a Honda EU 2000 digital inverter again uses much less ⛽️ fuel.......
That is pretty ingenious and simple.
Marty Marsh
Except if the engine stops BOOM goes the house.
Hey! Kindly want to ask, what prevents the natural gas from escaping through the air inlet control vent? Do you have any valve there? I have made something similar... and I notice that the natural gas is also escaping out from the air inlet. Thanks for your response.
It’s only escaping when you overfeed it
Pretty fucken creative man. Good work.
That's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing.
good Idea, so you don't have to keep refilling gas tanks with unleaded (petrol).
I wonder if there would be additional wear to the cylinder due to less lubrication vs. using gasoline.
There’s a different type of oil available for top of cylinders
Very good !!!
I have 3/4” pipe w/shut off valve how far can I run 1/2” hose from house so my 420cc generator 8750/ 7,000 running watts will get enough NG? I was planning on 1/2” hose about 25 to 30 feet let me know how far I can go with hose size. Thanks
OMG i felt like my own house was going to blow up just by watching this video!
😂😂
This would actually work, just by holding the tubing next to the intake. Of course that is impractical. My concern would be; a backfire of the engine would put momentary excess pressure on the meter and the house appliances. Not sure how that would work out. Nice demo, thanks.
Jim Key that's why you should put a check valve inline to stop any back pressure.
Thank you
This is a good idea, but only if you are missing a carb. No one should take their carb off of a motor for this. With a direct connection like this, you force flow to a certain degree only to keep engine running. If a load hits the generator, you would have to run out to genset, increase gas, and adjust at the air. Then when load inceased you would have to do everything in reverse. So while neat, no cigar.
This was the first atempt. If you red my comments you would know I have already improve this primitive carb. But thanks anyway :)
You may have said you improved it, but that is not evident here. I said I went to the moon, but in reality I did not.
+David VanMeter
Okay, you win.
I was not trying to win I was trying to see the revision. But I guess sense you sold genset that will be not possible.
+David VanMeter
I think I do have video of final product but I didn't share it since there was not much interest in it.
It was still running with out the gas regulator, I just adjusted the gas and air flow with medium load on it and the throttle was doing the rest of the job. It was actually working pretty good if I didn't have any big power surge. It started very easy when it was cold but I had hard time to start it when it was hot, no idea why.
This small Husky gen I just converted is running like champ any time. You can see it in other video.
I got into these conversions because of lot of problems with carbs and gasoline. Also water will accumulate in gas tank if you don't keep it full all the time because of the humidity here. So if you don't use the gen very often it is much better to run it on nat. gas or propane.
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Great idea, but just feed the natural gas into the dry carb's large vacuum hose and use the carb as a throttle body. That way you won't need 7 extra hands to get the fuel mixture right every time lol.
That is a great idea, why didn't I think of that??? ....Hmmmm, maybe because I don't have the the carburetor
@@tysesty, I've seen this done with the carb in place. You put a gas valve like you're using on the engine close to the carb, then pipe it with a flexible BBQ gas line from a shutoff at the house to the generator. then you have all the controls next to one another. I never said you had the carb, just said it was a better idea.
@@tysesty For that matter you can run a gas engine with a rag that's damp with gasoline using your hand to carburete the air-fuel mixture. I'm not a moron, just prefer talking about the details of how something works.
@@ColettaHughes The whole idea behind this is how to run the generator with out a carburetor just in case you didn't get it.
@@tysesty, I got that, but still, it doesn't make it very practical when most people do have a carburetor on their generator. I figured you'd be done hashing over this by now. Although I can play the game well, I'm not at all interested in slinging passive-aggressive insults back and forth. Enjoy your creation, I was just adding to a more realistic way lol.
Good invention.Please what is the BRAND NAME and BRAND NUMBER of the regulator used above.I thank you....
I did make governor later from old carburetor.
do you have idea how to make variable choke? I am thinking how to swap my gasoline motorbike to gas and need to find better way to increase/decrease gas opening.
it is great video, thanks for sharing! :)
+Curiosity84
not exactly sure what you mean by variable choke
I mean I want to easily speed-up and speed-down the speed, but no idea how to do it.
sorry bad english :)
Vladimir TySesTy Thanks for sharing That looks good but how do you control the engine RPM Under load if that engine is not spinning at 3000 RPM you will usually burn out the coated wiring on your stator.but looks good
watch my other video where I added throttle control.
Your correct
Pretty good
if youe generater stops working , you have nothing that stops the flow of the gas,.... good luk
Pretty cool 😎
Legend
Nice
not something I would attempt without my conversion kit, but it's smart. Is it as safe as using a regulator from a conversion kit? I'm also surprised it can run with such a narrow fuel hose. Cool video.
Think of LPG conversion on a car engine of 50+hp, just a quarter inch hose to the intake manifold.
What are the chances that thing backfires?
50/50
good job man. dont listen to all these idiots that have no mechanical sense whatsoever. it works and its practical. and if he has a regulator valve it want explode.
matthew lee what about varrying speed due to varrying load which is governed by governer???
I like it :)
boy i am concerned for you and your house,don't explode it, you need a bubbler in line for backfiring!!!!
Is it legal
No air filter‽ .You can use your generator inside a dust free enviroment only
If you're thinking about doing this get a demand regulator.
And the air filter?
Hey, the air we breath is clean around here ( so does government said ) so I don't need air filter
Where is the air cleaner? You still will need clean air going to the motor...good idea, I use propane instead..
Tom Reyes I also trying
Get a sharpie and make some marks for optimum settings
I converted a briggs and stratton engine to run on propane and it worked brilliantly until something fucked up. The ignition system still works perfectly, I have taken the engine apart and nothing is damaged. It must have been cursed.
some briggs &Stratton have problem with key way on flywheel and spark timing goes out won't start but still has spark
No governor
especially since I don't have carburetor
And when the engine dies,natural gas will pour through the yard and neighborhood just looking for an ignition source.
Not a good idea no governor to prevent over revving the engine which would cause the engine to blow up and then natural gas would be administered to the atmosphere if your neighbor let his barbecue grill to cook you have an explosion
This is wrong on so many levels. I wonder if the neighbors know what's going on?
One big problem, respectfully,..you don't know or understand properly how a generator works.
Allow me to explain, these types of mobile gasoline generators have governors that are linked to the carburetor and for good reason. These generators are made to run at a constant speed of 3500 r.p.m,... why ? because at 3500 r.p.m that is where the generator will efficiently produce 110 AC Volts @ 60 herts(VAC) ( many models also have 220 volt outputs) There is also a AVR, Automatic Voltage Regulator in the generator to help control the voltage. When you plug something into the power outlet socket of the generator it will obviously draw power, different appliances, lights, tools etc that you plug into the generator require the same voltage of 110 but will require different Amperage (Amps) Example: a power tools such as a circular saw will draw a higher amperage than a 40watt light bulb even though they both run at 110 volts, the circular saw will put a higher strain/load on the generator and want to slow down the engine r.p.m and thus this is where the GOVERNOR will automatically increase the power (throttle) of the engine to keep it running at 3500 r.p.m. So ,...whoever removed the carburetor along with the governor linkage that was connected to it you also remove the possibility to control the engine r.p.m at a constant 3500 r.p.m, and that will prevent the voltage outputs to stay at a constant 110 volts. They sell generator LP gas kits that you simply bolt on to the carburetor and come with a LP gas regulator, this way you keep the governor intact and you have a stable engine running @3500 r.p.m. also you will have the capability of running on either gasoline or LP (Liquid Propane) This method you show is not advised, it is dangerous and does not keep the engine running at a constant 3500 r.p.m for proper voltage depending on what is plugged into the generator. Oh, one last thing,,,, your set-up the way it is connected at the moment in this video to the main house natural gas line is 100% illegal in all 50 states !! there is a proper way to connect it to the main line, but not how it is in your video.
That is very good explanation, thank you. Would you be so nice and explain also why is there short rubber hose between filter box and valvecrankcase? Thank you.
Hello sir i need to talk u
okay, talk.
regulator
This is hack not a invention ok
you must be Mister Perfect
@@VladFredK The following link is a invention ; yours is a experiment, just clearing that up for you. Could be a language thing. Thanks for your service. It is worth what it cost. Not trying to give you hard time. Just helping you see its a hack not a invention. www.amazon.com/Hutch-Mountain-EU2200i-Gasoline-Generator/dp/B07BHBLFN4?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
@@transformed613 actually your link would be a hack also, I don't see much difference here except my is home bench made and their is factory made.......
So this is a hack too right ua-cam.com/video/7q0T28k90T0/v-deo.html because is home made.
Let me explain to you why I called my conversion invention. I came up with it on my own, I did't copy anyone, I just experimented until I made it work.
No hard feelings, just explaining my self. Time for a beer ... cheers
Je suis maintenant Haïti, je besoin un carburateur popane3 comment vas-tu aider moi à trouve