Progressive ideas and The Strange Death of Europe | Douglas Murray & Amit Segal
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2019
- Progressive ideas and The Strange Death of Europe | Douglas Murray & Amit Segal
Douglas Murray, the British author and journalist and author of the bestselling book The Strange Death of Europe, lectures on how the universalist progressive worldview harms Europe’s ability to deal with deep moral ideas and ultimately believe in its right to exist and the justice of its cause, and on the differences between Europe and Israel regarding nationalism and patriotism, borders and religion.
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The conference was held in the International Convention Center on May 16, 2019
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Douglas Murray is one of the bravest and honest man in Europe
He's one of our crown jewels.
... and he is a gay man, which makes his voice even MORE annoying to radical islam. I LOVE THAT! ASSIMILATE TO OUR WAYS OR FUCK OFF!
I haven't heard any other one to speak out the truth as he does. For me he is the best !
I'm worried about his safety
....hes truthful
I dont think you have to be brave to tell it like it is
I suppose if it's up against hooligans who send death threats,Douglas IS brave
That's why he should have our support,and we need to stand up for what is ours,what our families fought for,for us to continue,and our kids and their kids
Europe had to stop this madness NOW
❤❤it Douglas Murray good man 😊😊
Douglas is an amazing human being and a complete Ninja for advancing Truth fearlessly X God bless
Could listen to Douglas all day.
Douglas Murray speaks with truth, clarity, reason and courage....the western world would do well to heed his words!
Douglas you are so profoundly correct.we need someone with your eloquence and total understanding of realllity in our government.sadly we are never going to be. So fortunate.
Thank you Douglas for your really thought provoking speech.
This guy really makes sense!!! As gutsy and bold as he is, Murray is probably the best intellect of this generation!!!
You probably don t even do reading, no?
@Exiled Viking i really don t know why i have written that. Probably it was for somebody else but they deleted the comment or something. Idk
One of the great minds of our epoch.
I am an immigrant living in Canada,agree with everything this intelligent man is saying. What happened back on my lsnd will happen in Europe and the west
I must agree ; Mr. D. Murray is to me the Gentleman who is as brave as intelligent while emotionally genuine ; I come from Czech republic who has lived in U.K. for 25 years now and Mr Douglas " s views and ideas Wonderously European ; human ; with great insight and capacity of forgiveness and wit. Bravo for such a person & keep well and God bless you ! m.
His comment...." A lot of my friends have been killed for criticising a certain religion." Is a chilling warning to everyone.
The voice of reason and simultaneously the voice crying in the wilderness
Brilliant discussion
Frankly, this makes me, each time, move away from progressivism, and closer to ideas of a classical liberal or neo-conservative style.
Thanks Doug, you are a legal fella.
I admire you very much.
All the best.
Unfortunately progressive politics has become regressive in so many ways. Who would believe that within a generation the right would be holding up MLKs ideals whereas the left focus on skin colour.
Same here. I live in Germany as a Brit. The world has changed so much in ten years. I have become centrist because I just don’t agree with all the new dogma and ideologies.
Douglas Murray give one a feeling of trust in his talks.
Love listening to Douglas. Agree with him too😊
When are people going to stop conflating race with culture and religion? The issue lies with culture and religion rather than race!
מרתק, חזק וברוך
You are always welcome in Israel.
I thoroughly agree with the view that DOuglas Murray is the best intelect 39:36 of this generation. What a pity he is not in the government.
Master of pédagogie Douglas Murray! seems obious what he said but yet for so many people that don't understand that Inmigration should be control because consequances will be dramatic.
I hope that Europe.stops.this madness
This 'conquering '
Douglas Murray for PRIME MINISTER
Members of any nation have responsibility for their nation as the whole, their land and its prosperity. What attitude is that: first don't care, make a mess at home then migrate to other country and bring up the same carelessness and mess. Some reasons for migration should be recognized and justified. In general, migration is the results of people inability to organize their native land and this inability will infect their new place.
The old truth is: if you want to help the people, help them to improve their life in their land. The unrooting them does not do any good to anyone.
The 'plain 'ol truth"❤..
Sounds good. It also sounds a little optimistic. The only way that I can see to succeed in saving Europeans is to get away from the NANNY State and drive leftest from the world. .
Reason and left way of thinking are things incompatible
He raises some important questions, while most Europeans have liberal views and open minds regarding culture and race… Not all people coming into Europe share those values, there are those that are actually closed minded, cultural intolerant and racist themselves (certainly not all but some are and if you just open the door and let everyone in you will inevitably let in racists you shouldn’t be welcoming into your country).
An example was a pole taken off a nameless immigrant group that was polled asking about homosexuality, overwhelming they disapproved and want it to be against the law (against the law and most likely punished). I’ve also read posts from a site that is overwhelmingly of immigrants from Afríca going into Italy, most were people that were incredibly racists against Italians (not all, most notably Ethiopians were incredibly welcoming and open minded), should Italy be bringing in large numbers of racists that hate Italians? Of course not, no country should bring in large numbers of intolerant hate filled racists that see their hosts as inferior and beneath them.
(Just for clarification, I don’t know the percentages of how many immigrants going into Europe are welcoming and how many are racists themselves. All I’m saying is every country should know who they are letting in)
That's funny, because Europe is the most racist, intolerant, supremacist, violent, pedophilic, genocidal, imperialist, expansionist continent of all time. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.
@@almostafa4725 That’s a lot of accusations without stating why you feel that way. I never said I was against immigrants at all, in fact we all were at some point in history. We should however, know who we are letting in. An example would be, would you leave your door open at night to let anyone in (and hope they have good intentions)? I hope the answer to that is no, you’d want to know who is coming in.
You made a lot of accusations, yet most European countries before the influx of letting everyone in had some of the lowest violent crime rates in the world. As for racist and supremacist, you would have an argument speaking historically (for some countries) but today? You can’t seriously say countries that open the door to help so many are racist today (the push back you see from some in Europe today is in large part due to violent crimes increasing).. That’s absurd if you believe Europeans are racist or are you just ignoring the hate and intolerance from some that are migrating to Europe?
So much of what you said is filled with hate and pointing fingers while ignoring atrocities that are going on around the world. There are literally over 40 mil people that are slaves today, many of which are in Africa and Asia. The Pedo comment, again there are men in Asia that believe they will stay young if they have sex with virgins and they look for young girls (it’s actually a serious problem in some countries). In other countries young girls are forced to get married to middle aged or older men (this happens mostly in the Middle East & Africa; on occasion in also Asia). Yes, there are men from all over the world that travel to foreign countries for sex (and have looked for females that are too young), but suggesting that’s strictly a European or western issue; that isn’t true. I’m not saying, all Europeans are great, but saying that all are (fill in the blank from your long list) is also absurd. Just as it is true there are issues in all those places I mentioned…There are also truly great people in every one of the places too (like Asia, Africa, the Middle East, the Americas, great people can be found everywhere on this planet).
Al Mostafa, I hope that you don't live in Europe then, it must be painful in such a horrible place with such horrible values 😁. But if you do, feel free to put an end to your misery and go live in deliciously tolerant places like muslim theocracies.
@@almostafa4725 you will never 100% eliminate these things bud. Stop trying to control others FREE WILL. you are a bigot by doing this.
Well done Sal. Very well put indeed.
British culture is based on The Ten Commandments , cultures without those give us a problem, we value life.
The only events Europeans are proud of their countries are football games and Eurovision
douglas murray in israel - great person in a great place!
It's nice to see such a nice reception for Douglass' speech in Israel.
I usually see only leftist Jews and I sometimes wonder whether all benevolent, rational-thinking Jews are in Israel.
One criticism though, this "nativism for me but not for thee" is very hypocritical.
Iv met the same folks you mention and somone said about them that a lot of them are people that replaced judaism with the religion of progressivism, though there are plenty of reasonable jewish folks outside israel , they usually dont get proper media attention.
Most of Israel are simple people on the right wing ,most of us actually nervous about the situation in Europe ,but your leftists media will only show what Israeli leftists media show's and Ower leftists media will show how happy the Europeans with the immigrants and how racist the Israelis are.
Well, that's the problem with Israeli media, it's full of Lefties.
@@ashley-fk6dp Yeah, but people with a vastly disproportional power in my own country wouldn't.
Imagine if Chinese came into your own country and started steering it towards more and more mass immigration, which lowers your own sovereignty and (ultimately, when brought to its logical conclusion, given enough time) brings about demographic and cultural destruction.
It is hard to 'take' so much sanity after hearing so much stupidity from far too many.
Engkand needs to move fast
So does the rest of Europe
ראיון חשוב מאין כמה.חבל שאין תרגום.לא כולם יודעים אנגלית
תפעיל את התרגום של יוטיוב.
@@arktana תודה מקרב לב
@@haronderi2314 בכיף!
EUROPA RISES
Omg 4years ago and spot on. Love Douglas.
I’m glad you said it because people will probably listen. The difference of being white British has gone from roughly 98% in the nineteen seventies to 35% today. It’s the biggest cultural shift in any capital cities history. It should be rewarded and applauded. Nothing else, I have no problem with the change of demographic.
Also, you can’t argue that people have changed their minds because they haven’t. That’s what makes the UK the most multi cultural place in the world. If you disagree do you own research and let me know. I am glad that it has been said by somebody with more reach than I have, also someone I admire.
Sweden occupied Finland for 600 years and only ceded its hegemony after it lost a war against Russia in 1805. I'd say that was colonial.
But they were white, and therefore it doesn't matter.
What international ''progressivists'' only care is about non-white minorities. They literally aren't able to think out of this low-resolution parameters. They don't care about historical facts and nuances.
What Douglas Murray was saying is that Sweden, like other scandinavian countries don't owe any ounce of guilt to the rest of the world since it didn't engage in the only type of colonialism leftists care about.
When you say ''colonialism'' they don't think of Muslim Empires having european, african or hindu slaves, they think about europeans as the only culpable actor in history and everyone else as the automatic victim.
I've literally heard people trying to say that the Sami are the ''true indigenous'' north-europeans, as if all the other scandinavians are automatically foreign and invaders of their own countries just because of the color of their skin.
This is an ideology that could be thought out by a race-obsessed lefist kid of 6 years of age.
Nationalism for me but not for thee
THE WORLD IS STAGE EVERYONE PLAYS HIS ROLE AND RECEIVES HIS PART
ראשון! 😀
תודה על ההעלאה! אפשר בבקשה להעלות את שאר הכנס גם כן? קשה לשמוע אותו בפייסבוק עם התרגום מעליו
רוב הסרטונים הועלו. מוזמנים לצפות
@@HerutCenter תודה רבה! מצפים כבר לכנס הבא.
The state is the entity, the organization, the social construct, the product of work of many generations of group of the people called nation. In essence migration deny that. The migration as the process is disruptive and negligent.
10:05
האם הגירה הורסת לאומים? האם הגירה לאירופה היא דבר טוב בכלל? ובעצם הורסת את אותם ערכים לאומיים?
במדינות שלא היו כאלה מלחתחילה
האם לדעתך בגלל המהפכה הטכנולוגית החשיבות של לאום יורדת?
בנוסף לאגירה
26:00
מה החשיבות לדעתך של אותם רשתות חברתיות כאשר מנסים להעביר את אותם אגנדות?
45:00
היכן בעיית ההגירה נתקלת למה היא בעייתית?
Siem reap and other places like that , I want to go 2 because so different to what I grew up seeing . “Be thankful for where you are born “ as in a democracy, developed, rule of law .. we are made by the left , by our society, media , and those born in less fortunate societies, to feel guilty about it ..
Yes, the democrats are like amoeba, shapeless. They fit into any spot at any time. They appeal to those without definition. To demos. The conservatives have structure and spines. And shape. And that difference is fundamental.
He speaks in paragraphs
16:45 Selbstvermessenheit des Eigenen.
He is so sexy😅
A gentleman.
The immediate post War transformation of Europe included massive population transfers that brought shared-language peoples together in an ethnic reshuffling. So borders were informally bolstered, and not by statesmen, but on the local level, by neighbor on neighbor violence. German minorities throughout central Europe were expelled and made their way to Germany. Others too. It's another explanation for border anxiety than reluctance to join another fight over Alsace-Lorraine or the Saar.
Susan Stebbing, in her philosophy book, "Thinking to Some Purpose," has some surprising things to say about mid-century English political discourse. It portrayed English politics as more sentimental and not nearly as statesman-like as a first impression (Pitt, Disraeli, Gladstone, Churchill) would impart.
As for religion in Europe, it's too subtle a topic for me as an American to put forward any ideas. Here in the US, I'd say that fragmented sectarianism is a business model. Unlike past eras, religious affiliation is no longer a comfort for the downtrodden, but a luxury good. Consumer marketing has appropriated the methods once used by religion and has crowded it out.
The one instance I've seen of young people in Europe turning to religion in recent years is in the Pussy Riot Manifesto. It was a very well thought out argument that unabashedly drew upon Gospel sources to explain and inspire. Of course it was from the part of Europe where churches were recently supressed.
We don't make constructive disagreement part of education in USA or Europe. We leave it to attorneys and politicians. Training on the high school debate team won't serve. There are ways to disagree without being disagreeable.
There's a lot we in the West would have to get right to benefit from Murray's insights.
I agree with much of Douglas Murray's views, but his whole lecture is pregnant with the irony that he's in a country that's governed by mass migrants, and etched by 20th century European guilt.
It was Jewish centuries before Christianity and Islam were created! The Jewish land was invaded by many Empires, most Jews were chased! As promised they returned home! Arabs want to steal Jewish history; archeology, the bible and land!
sure it will be trapped like sinkhole
It's telling a lot that he is in Israel, which represents the colonialism of Europe and its Apartheid outcome.
Doesn’t that just make it all the more relevant?
He judges political corectnes being political correct about circumcision himself :-/ this is not an unimportant issue and he's such a hypocrite here.
Why is he actually wining about Europe in Isreal? Incomprehensible to me.
All sane people oppose circumsition for religious reasons.
He is f..n progressive.
Meanwhile, Israelis are immigrants in Palestine, lol.
No. They are NOT. There is no such country as "Palestine" whereas Jews have occupied the region for Millennia.
@@drwhatson stop lying
@@almostafa4725 stop breathing
@@igaltalianski1976 Come on, both of you - this isn't Twitter!
Another idiot that doesn't know history
As always Douglas thumbs up m8..... but weren't you a little bit apprehensive sitting next to a Jew - thinking you are communicating with an intelligent person...... " If A Man Lies With A Man ................ Choose ur m8s carefully.