Douglas Murray and Brian Lee Crowley: In Defence of Western Civilization
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2024
- A thought-provoking discussion in downtown Vancouver, organized by the Macdonald-Laurier Institute: in this exclusive event, Douglas Murray, esteemed author and journalist, engaged in a captivating armchair conversation with Brian Lee Crowley, MLI Managing Director, on the theme of the defence of Western civilization
Douglas Murray, renowned for his incisive commentary and unwavering defence of Western values, is the author of several bestselling books, including most recently, The War on the West, to the forefront. Murray's compelling narrative seeks to dismantle the unfounded criticisms levied against Western culture, highlighting its enduring contributions to humanity. - Розваги
Being an Israeli Douglas Murray is a light shining in the darkness of ignorance and hate against my country. I’ll be forever grateful 🙏❤
The level headed people stand by Israel. The others are just very loud and very organized when it comes to protesting. But yes Israel and all that is good in this world needs people like Murray. I love that he is relentless in his pursuit and defence of truth as well as fight against woke and leftist destructive ideologies. We stand with you.
@@KaspA781 - For many the same reasons I admire Israel I hold the Netherlands in deep regard.
@@KaspA781 I read about Pim Fortuyn years ago. I greatly admire who he was. He was right, and Europe should have listened to him.
Maybe they would have a bit more if he hadn't gotten ass*ssinated.
The good ones always seem to get ass*sinated.
@@jamesjameson4303 I am surrounded by the "progresssive", 'pro-Hamas' types - although they say 'pro-palestinian'.
I would love to dialogue with them, but haven't had much of a chance.
I wonder WHY have so many people gone into lefty nutter land?
Out of 960 Nobel price holders 234 were Jews. This is 100 x more than regular population.
Gaza produced hate, chaos, rockets and tunnels..
I'm thrilled to see one of the contemporary world's greatest public intellectuals speaking in Canada!!! No country needs to hear his frank, unapologetic defense of Western Civilization more than Canada, as this country has been so immersed in "progressive" dogma and indoctrination since roughly 2015. Vancouverites are very fortunate to have been exposed to Douglas's insight, honesty, and wisdom. Hopefully, audiences in Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal will also have an opportunity to learn from exposure to his ideas, as the residents of these woke-infested metropolises desperately need to hear his clear-thinking message.
Glad for Canada too. I live in a very "progressive" area in the U.S. I don't think any of my friends, or anyone around me have even heard of Douglas Murray. And they wouldn't watch him even if I recommended him.
Quite the sad state of affairs.
Terry - For a real treat find the Munk Debates episode from (I think) Nov. 2022 when Douglas and Matt Taibbi were intellectually pitted against the puffed up Malcom Gladwell and the vapid chick from the New York Times (sorry I can't remember her name).
In fact, I've saved that podcast in my favorites and periodically go back to enjoy it all over again.
@@TTFN55 Thanks, but I've seen it before. In fact, I watched it live at the time. Her name is Michelle Goldberg.
Terry - P.S. The chick's name is Michele Goldberg. Douglas literally mentions the debate in the last few minutes of this appearance.
I reference it anytime someone attempts to invoke the work of Malcolm Gladwell in a debate... Shameful he was.@@TTFN55
Every time I listen to Douglas Murray is utter pleasure. So smart, so well spoken. 👏
Exactly my thoughts!!
And such a hero on Israel’s side
Once you have got rid of Hate, whats next, avarice? Sloth is on the table. LMAO!!!!!
More people need to listen to Douglas Murray. You don’t need to agree with everything he says, but you can learn a lot from him.
it is fairly difficult to disagree with him, can i ask out of interest, which particular points you disagree with ?
@@maidsubrenaI don’t disagree with him, I think he’s a modern-day Cassandra.
My comment was geared towards those who do disagree with him, they’re the ones who need to challenge their views by listening to people they disagree with (like Murray).
How about his rabid zionism. He mentions glee from hamas on Oct 7. I never saw that. Must have been the video with the 40 babies and all the saxophoneviolins. The video that doesn't exist.
Of course, he didn't mention the Hannibal directive. Israel dustified its own on Oct 7. On purpose. It's doctrine...
😂@@maidsubrena
For me, a person of mixed Hispanic and aborigin heritage, the values of the west ocuppy a predominant place in my personal mindset. It's not "colonialism" or "white imperialist imposition" as many people on the side of left ideology tend to think. I STAND with the values of the west because those values made possible the technological advances we enjoy today, the democracy, the freedom of speech (which is now in peril, specially in Canada), indivual liberty, all of them are values derived from the classical liberalism, the English and American enlightening, etc we have to defend those values from the madness of wokism, sordid hardcore socialism and self destructive hate of western civilization. Those values do matter and represent the best of humankind, not because they are of a "western origin" but because those values defend and uphold the freedom of the individual. That is precisely why they were so successful. Western Individualism gave us the gift of society, because without the concept of the individual, we will never have a free society,. The alternative is colectivism, a green, woke dictatorship and tyranny of the mobs.
Well said!
I couldn't have expressed it better myself.
Me three. I think you need to send that to your local paper.
Get it published for many more to.read!
Well said
The horrible horrible woke...Ireland
Douglas Murray = brilliance + wit + courage!
"After Justin Trudeau has managed to stop hate, what will he do next? Would he like to do gluttony?" too funny
Is Western Civilization worth defending? What a STUPID question. There is a major need to reform western civilization. Not tear it down. But face its negative aspects.
As Murray points out in his book The Madness of Crowds, progress starts with good intentions and genuine progress, but then gets vandalized. And it starts with so-called think tanks like MLI that reify economic notions all the time. And reifying theories is where the problems begin.
Brian Lee Crowley defends the Austrian school of Economics in his work and the MLI leans that way both failing to realize that it is part of the current wave of problems in western civilization that underpins the current neoliberal age of austerity. He glorifies the enlightenment while being a fan for Austrian economics and F.A. Hayek. It makes no sense.
It is part of the weapons of mass distraction characterized by identity politics instead of identifying problems that need solving by attending to common interests.
Trudeau has just redirected the hate!
Douglas is not just a brilliant intellectual, he is fantastic at adding humour to the right bits of his discussions.
@@JohnconnoHow deluded you are! 😅
Sloth is on the table!
If anybody needs a good listen to Douglas, it is Canada!
What's that fury stuff on my tongue? Oh! Candida! I'm not certain the British dream was necessarily best for Canada, but I'd love to get chewed out by bears. Foxy huh?
and Scotland.
You can be completley misinformed by him too. Research how Thomas Jefferson treated his little boy slaves. The people who wanted the statue raised in his honor taken down were dead right!
Douglas Murray is an absolute rock star
Douglas is an utter delight to listen to. He has a magic of putting my thoughts into most lucid and exquisite word. Thank you Douglas for being you ❤
They way he speaks, his honesty and clarity. I can listen to him for hours. He is fearless in his honesty. AND he puts boots on the ground for example in Israel and Gaza. The useful idio-ts who protest or march for "palestine" have never been anywhere in the region even young muslims, do not know the history of the region and the conflict and he goes, sees for himself therefore he has the authority to speak.
Brilliant, thank you to the MLI in bringing Douglas Murray to Canada and sharing this UA-cam video.
Douglas, I am not surprised at the lack of empathy from people and governments outside of Israel for the barbaric and murderous acts perpetrated on Israel. My God have mercy on them for Gods revenge is complete. I am an ex Rhodesian. Believe me I am aware firsthand of terror and terrorism. I know Israel in my heart because I have been there (metaphorically). Douglas keep up your work. You are THE voice the world needs to hear. You give me hope that someone is listening and standing up for good and right and true!!!
Once again Douglas delights audiences with his clear and insightful way of expressing the truth. I could listen to him for hours on end. So many of us are desperate to have many copies of Douglas to save our western culture and reject that of barbarians seeking to destroy it.
Well said...!
Feels like Douglas Murray is the only champion of the West these days. God Bless Douglas Murray.
Thank you dear Douglas for telling the true 🙏🏻❤️
Douglas is fully enlightened in the Western tradition. He is a treasure for all who want to learn.
Wow thank you for getting Douglas in Canada.He is an extraordinary journalist.He has integrity and hates Lies!
A brillant discussion with Douglas Murray...he is the voice of honesty, reason and common sense....cheers to him for all the good work he does on behalf of our western cultures and societies that are being eradicated!
I'm so sad I missed this event! Thank you Douglas Murray & thank you MLI for sharing this video!
1:00:17 is the west ashamed because Israel has shown them time & again, what it means to stand your ground
Absolutely and profound!
It's not, and the fact that it's not is a symptom of a very big problem in the west: the west has been peaceful for SO long, it doesn't even understand the concept of "an enemy".
The idea that, should Israel stand back, it's people will keep getting destroyed does not, and can not, stick as reality in minds of the western people. They think that, if only Israel stopped, pulled it's forces back, disarmed and stepped down; everything would be beautiful and the joyous happy free loving people of Palestine would happy go lucky into the future. They cannot possibly accept that the moment Israel pulls back; the Israeli civilians are going to be brutalised. And if that happens, the stupid west will tell you "well, you had it coming for your eviling".
Just like when, in the west, a black man breaks the law; the westerners say "well we had it coming because we were slavers; and now it's absolutely cool to rob a mall if you're black".
It's insanity.
Yes. We are too craven to stand up to Islamic terrorism in our own countries. It's embarrassing. We like to pretend there is no problem. The Israelis are on the front line of a battle we want to pretend doesn't exist.
I'd like to see a discussion called "In defense of civilization." Because this is what we all are losing. It's not only Western, it's civilization as such.
How good is Douglas Murray at communicating the human and emotional aspects of violent action that created this reaction, especially the factor of glee?
Douglas you are so inspiring!!!
Douglas Murray rides again!!!
GREAT comment!
Great Stuff! Enjoyed the discussion immensely!
Douglas Murray is a absolute legend every time I listen to him l get to learn something new 👏👏👏👏👍🇬🇧
What a brilliant man who brings light 💡 into our current world of darkness. His books are incredible and it was a highlight hearing him in person at a synagogue 🕍 in North York recently. Canada 🇨🇦 needs more courage (and more Douglas!) ❤
Thank you, Douglas, for your clarity, and thank you for standing by Israel. We feel very alone and confused here.
Douglas Murray is well worth listening to. Political Correctness killed local patio discussions, so he’s the great catch-up.
Mr. Murray, you’re brilliant, and I can’t get enough of your common sense words.
Thank you for standing out from journalists who have not learned to listen, who have not learned to make intelligent syntheses.... But do they have one? M.A. PARIS
I wish I could be as smart, witty, & cool as Douglas Murray.
Just be yourself. You have a lot to contribute just as you are, I'm sure.
CLOSE ALL BORDERS NOW!
Ban all-cap bots
I am Italian . I stand with Israel and pray for the safety of this country , because it means the safety of Europe, too.
I'm a big fan of Mr. Murray, thanks for inviting him!
Canada needs to listen and act accordingly.
Hi Douglas Murray 👋Ohh this time so closer to My neck of woods Washington State 🤗 WOW this presentation Convo SO PACKED w Tons INFORMATION from YOU !!
I think it would be very helpful and important..to pool series of volumes of live recordings together of your insightful wisdom directions Most informative conversations lectures observations opinions reactions of our current happenings..These times.
I really think 🤔 its very important to preserve these ideologies commentaries not only presently but generations to come dependent on this Guidance
Perhaps there is hope for Canada.
Dear Douglas, you are the true North in a world full of sheep. Love everything about you❣
Thank you Douglas a very good talk. Long live Israel.
Douglas Murray is Western Civilization at its best.
This just popped up in my feed!! I have been watching and listening to Douglas Murray’s videos for several months now and I’m extremely excited to see that he came to Canada! I would have loved to have been sitting in the audience when he visited North York Ontario. This man has enlightened me so much in such a short period of time. I love his perspective and his ease of explaining any subject he discusses. I’m a huge fan. Thank you Sir!
Glee when committing acts of evil, just describes Islam.
Douglas, you are great. Enjoyed your take down of the ridiculous South African journalist last week and again the eloquence of this delivery. So rare but needed these days. Like water on dry earth. The comment on Churchill "having work to do" and therefore not running around do social justice stuff brought the old adage to mind ... "Those that are rowing the boat, dont have time to rock the boat ..." So much more true today than ever before. The agitators are invariably those without education or jobs or families or doing anything that matters; those who want something for nothing (free loans, free education, those who choose to do easy and ridiculous degrees like Women's Studies and then demand high paying salaried jobs for their efforts). Gone are the days of decent education, critical rational thought and true classical liberalism.
Almost every time i listen to Douglas Murray, I end up with a listen of books I haven't read, but must.
Tell the truth and don't lie... how simple and how rare. 🎉
Douglas Murray is like the North Star, you can set your moral compass by him. He may not always say what appears fashionable, but he speaks a language which has never gone out of fashion. The truth.
Gosh I could listen to Douglas forever. He has such common language that you can understand and relate too. Oh. Wr are so blessed to have such a person with the courage to say exactly what life is about.
Thanks.
Douglas Murray: "When your prime minister announced his separation from his wife I said probably the first time a man has divorced his wife because he wants to spend more time with himself." -- It perfectly captured the shallowness and narcissism of that individual, and someone in the audience immediately called out "Meow!" to acknowledge the almost feline precision of the observation.
Douglas Murray is so original, incisive and courageous.My hero.
Someone recently pointed out he millions killed by genocide in Uganda and that is their own people .
God Bless Douglas, God bless Israel, and God save Canada.
in 1980 I was given a medal which contained the words of Itzack Rabin, an Israeli general and later prime minister, and Nobel Peace Prize winner. Following Jewish custom, he wrote a note and placed it in a hole in the western wall of the Temple in Jerusalem after the six day war in 1967. The words of his prayer note to God said "Maybe peace will come". When my son swore his oath to serve in Israel's army, the company General told all the parents not to have any illusions, and that every soldier would be fighting in wars. No one wants peace more than soldiers and the sons and daughters of soldiers, by the way Rabin loved agriculture and he wanted to be a water engineer to make the desert bloom, blessed be his memory. We honour Douglas for the truth he tells the world.
41:00 “Show me what you accuse the Jews of, I’ll show you what you’re guilty of” - I accuse the Jews of being exceptionally insightful physicists who have made pivotal contributions to the development of much of modern science! …. What happens now? …. I still seem to be really mediocre …. Do I just wait a bit? Or will there be a flash of lightening? 🤪
You make a good point but 'accuse' contains a negative connotation. I cannot 'accuse' you of philanthropy, for example.
Those aren't accusations, they're affirmations. :-)
Well said !!From Scotland
Guilty of Arrogance? Being Pedantic? We all know that only a small minority of Jews (as in most societies) would be exceptional insightful physicists. Douglas was correct.
Regarding the "would you fight for your country" question; in my 20s i was proud to serve the UK and held the same view up until about 10 years ago. Now i would say "No" and would urge my kids not to. Yet the reality is;
a)I would fight for my country but not its current generation of politicians.
b) I don't see our greatest enemy as being foreign but domestic, and pray with all heart that that battle of ideas which is coming never comes to actual violence/fighting.
If you wouldn't fight for your country, then it wasn't your country anymore.
The part of this interview about journalists reminds me of the quote by Arthur Schopenhauer from over a hundred years ago:
"Journalists are like dogs, when ever anything moves they begin to bark."
My world Civilization and western civics class were both taught by Mr. Rocca, awarded as one of the best teachers in the United States in the late 1970’s. I’m so thankful to have had some teachers dedicated to teaching foundational history. It was only 42 years ago. My how the educational system deteriorated. In my case I attribute value to my grandparent being available to care for me while mom was working. Unfortunately my children didn’t have surviving grandparents or grandparents that chose to not be involved. Thank God for my grandparents!
Grossman's "Life and Fate" is a superb novel and so is his shorter novel "Everything Flows" about a political prisoner returning to his native village after he has been released from the Gulag. I wouldn't worry about Russia invading the Baltic States, Douglas. Don't believe everything you hear on Times Radio.
Such a complete man. I’ve never experienced anything as wonderful as.
We've also been told that war is stupid and bad, and that's true. My entire life from childhood has been books, movies and an education that tells me to learn from the mistakes of the past, including war and totalitarianism, & not repeat them, but here we are, heading back towards violence. We did this to ourselves and we're not fit to do anything to stop it because we've had it too easy, apparently.
I'm British & I love Douglas Murray, I would love to have all these Palestinian protesters who protest every weekend in London (especially the young British people who are completely clueless just going the next band wagon) to be locked into a large arena & made to listen to Douglas on the situation of Israel & Gazza..& Just maybe they would understand how ridiculous they are, He's Douglas is a light in the darkness of Israel & THE DARKNESS WILL NEVER OVERCOME THE LIGHT...love & prayers to Israel 🙏🙏🙏
Brilliant...Douglas/ Brian...Ireland
You talk sense I agree totally
Thank you, from Kibbuts Bet HaEmek. Just off to our local book club.
Just how great is Douglas Murray? I shall miss his wisdom when he can no longer speak due to the woke shutting him down, either by misuse of law or by violent force. Mark my words that day will come I assure you when George Orwell will be proved right... “how many fingers do you see?” The answer will be... as many as I order you to see!
You underestimate the strength and resilience of some of us! How weakminded is your comment! The despots are losing 😅
If you want to know if someone is a sensible, willing to listen to both sides sort of person. Ask what they think of Douglas Murray. One of the most sensible people on the planet imo.
I hate snow. So presumably my visa application to Canada would be refused! But I promise only to come only at the height of summer when there is no snow!
We love you Murray ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Love you Douglas. Go Douglas
The difference between the way journalism and its audiences which react or fail to react with demonstrations concerning their sociopolitical views of the war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza can be summed up succinctly as "the underdog principle" at work. That is to say that humans viscerally and instinctively side with the party they perceive to be relatively disadvantaged in power differential regardless of the overlying moral issues at stake. It is a deplorably regrettable truth about human nature that, like hate, is apparently ineradicable from the fundamental human condition, to use Douglas's term for it.
There's no question that Israel suffers diplomatically from the scourge of Antisemitism, but in the realm of international diplomacy, their overriding nemesis beyond Antisemitism in its reaction to constant attack from Islamists is the reptilian underdog factor. When the Israelis were threatened with national annihilation from overwhelming Arab military forces in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973, the Israelis were the underdogs, and the world outside Islam cheered them on to victory. Now the tables have turned on them. They no longer have the underdog principle in their favor.
Splendid...splendid!
I love open and intelligent debate!
I love this man!!!
absolute thumbs up. justin needs to listen in on this.
Douglas, I don’t think these people chanting “free Palestine” in the Bataclan can draw a link between what happened there and what’s happening in Gaza. I really don’t.
Murray is wonderful.People may call him "conservative" but I feel you could just as well call him "liberal" at least the liberalism up till very recently that had a healthy dose of liberty to it.What he notices these days more resembles Stalinism where you believe in the whole package )that dreaded term intersectionality) or your cancelled.,Viva Murray!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Dost thou think, because thou art virtuous, there shall be no more cakes and ale?" (Shakespeare, Twelfth Night)
Two brilliant men with a strong morale compass. I hope the both get to run a country
I personally think they're better in their roles, but they lay the intellectual foundation for others who can handle that miserable job of being a politician. We in Canada have a terrific guy who really is about as smart as Douglas plus can encapsulate things well, turn out slogans and sit down with the average guy too: Pierre Poilievre. Not the PM yet but as soon as possible, I hope.
Love ❤️ you ❤️ Douglas Murray 💋💕💯👏👏👏👏👏💙💖💛♥️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🏴🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧🇮🇱🌎
Hello Douglas. The Council woman wanted her own statue installed in place of Thomas Jefferson!. You are right!
understanding of reality is based on deeply plausible consensus with a keen sense of peril when we get it wrong. It must always always be a work in progress because relevance is moving target in a combinatorily explosive ocean of aspects.
21:25 in 1978 a friend was diagnosed with a particular cancer which was treated with a concoction know to the healers of tribes located around Orillia. This was an experimental regime being administered to patients either deemed untreatable by other means or those who refused surgery as my friend had. The program was being run by a Doctor by the name of Casey (not sure the spelling but the substance was called a reverse of his name something like Iseac...?) long story short was that this person was cured and was on a number of occations asked to speak at medical seminars as a testimonial....
Essiac? There’s no evidence it works. In rare cases, the immune system can destroy small tumours (early cancers). Happened to my aunt with a small tumour in her breast.
The activists' next target will be indifference. The one thing that must annoy them more than hate.
That’s a nice suit Doug, sharp. I want 1.
38:16
TOO GOOD!!!!!!!!!
My guess was that the brood mare and dowry had been used up.
Like Dad after Maggie....
Discussion starts at 4:00
26:48
"If anyone is born into guilt, um then it's got to go every way"
Sounds EQUITIBLE to ME !
When will DEI-ists hold themselves too such a LOW standard of treating THE OTHER as THEM who wish to be accepted.
"Without Christianity, the West is nothing." ~Cardinal Muller. He's right. Everyone needs to humble themselves and submit to Christ if we're to save our civilization. That includes you, Douglas Murray. As much as I appreciate you, you need to submit to the Lord Jesus as well. The people who are fighting for the West and know that Christianity is important to our culture don't want to be Christians themselves. It does not work like that.
38:30: What´s with the "meow" from an audience member and Douglas' grin and nod in response?
I know Justin likes to dress up, but what's the background to that particular innuendo? 😂
Catty remark? Possibly 😂
The fact that we have a conscience and emotions concerning the injustice of of slavery means we are vulnerable to insult and accusations where as countries who don't care are not vulnerable .
So why attack someone if they are not vulnerable and can not be hurt by your attempt to hurt them.
Hate is like an essential vitamin . It's an emotion that sparks certain hormones and actually emphasizes the differences of things we love or like .
All people hate atleast one person even if it means that they just like that person less than others he is at the lowest of the love scale which is as hateful as the person hating is capable of.
We all have different degrees at which we are able to hate .
Great Grandson of Aleister.
One reason being that new generations communicate with images and sentences as long as a title, and very short videos few seconds long
And teachers and parents rarely have an enthusiastic constructive attitude towards the past and present and future😁And the History books are rarely accurate and Films are seeing as a sort of History Books, same with the short videos young people and adults are cleverly fed by some astute people who mislead and misinform.
I really like listening to Douglas Murray, but I think he would understand certain aspects that puzzle him simply by staying around young people and teenagers, I have four daughters and I see the way they learn and build their knowledge from school books and teachers and social platforms. And the different generations and of course depending on what the environment they grow up in. I know some incredibly cultured and generous groups such as Comunione e Liberazione, which is a movement within the Catholic Church, and other itineraries of faith where young people are very respectful of culture, but I also see how social media with its many lies and misinformation are mining the well being and hopes and strengths and pursuit of truth of the most honest ones
On point
Walter Winchell lied in 1968 about what went on during the 1968 Vietnam Tet offensive
I thought Rishi did well with that speech.
To be honest I was opposed to him taking the role, but he's pleasantly surprised me at times. Not at others, of course.
Douglas is impressive
Douglas Murray is preaching to the unconvertable...
22:10 As a Mandarin student and former China resident, I'd say that foreign "dev-world", or foreign "demo-word" are closer translations to the meaning of 鬼佬. If you do an image search for "鬼", you get a sense of the imagery it conjures up among native speakers.
On an edited note, I see that using the "鬼佬" term here appears to trigger no response from the shadow-ba-wordan algorithm ensuring our shared safety from verbal harm.
Justin Trudeau was sitting in the front row of the Christopher Hitchen lecture. Can find it online.
هل كلامك صحيح !!
i almost had a heart attacked and need to get my eyes tested! thought it side in defense of Westminster!