Great to finally have competent professionals working on this iconic locomotive after years of mismanagement. Can't wait to see her run again. Ross Rowland
All of us at the J&L Narrow Gauge Railroad welcomes another operating steam locomotive so close to home. Eastern Ohio and Western Pennsylvania will soon become a great place for steam enthusiasts with standard gauge, three foot and two foot steam power!
I have a two year degree in mechanical engineering technology from PSU. I’ve seen everything from outstanding legitimate experts to genuinely clueless people in this profession over the past decade. I can say with confidence that this guy is the real deal. Glad he is directly involved in preserving our Central PA heritage and history!
I love it. My dad was a fireman and at the tail end was getting his engineer certification on the Pittsburgh Division. He was in Altoona many times. He fired numerous K4s. I grew up with a love for railroads, especially the Pennsy. I’m so glad your restoring 1361, and doing it the right way. As a tribute to my dad, I want to be there to see her run again. When he told his stories about his time on the railroad, I could almost feel the heat from the firebox, and the motion of the train. The thrill of my life as a little boy was at Shire Oaks yard outside of Pittsburgh. At age three, with the help of my dads dear friend, an engineer with the Pennsy, I got to run a diesel locomotive. I’m 66 now, and to me it’s like yesterday. Thanks dad, and thank you all for making a dream come true.
Im glad to see a professional and comprehensive rebuild and restoration finally being conducted on this famous locomotive, I hope there will be more updates coming as this progresses.
Mr. Fengler sounds like he understands the steel and how it is required to behave under heat and pressure. This iconic locomotive was dealt some seriously poor cards from the beginning of restoration forward. This can be done, and my hope is that funding will come through and one chef will be allowed in the kitchen!
Those holes in the boiler the one's that look like stars when there standing inside , are those going to except ribbits or are they for something else?
They didn't know what the !!!! they were doing. Fr'instance, there was some welding done on the boiler. It passed inspection. Then someone started grinding the "ugly" off the welds... voiding the inspection, /and the welds themselves/. Expensive re-do. And then there's the axle bearing thing. Moral of story: Just because your grandpa worked on them, doesn't make /you/ an expert.
I don’t think Belpaire fireboxes were any more disposable than other types, the issue is the inside and outside plates are the same thickness whereas a curved firebox has a thicker wrapper sheet to compensate for the larger stay spacing that occurs on the section that has a radius. As a result a curved firebox wrapper sheet has a built in corrosion allowance as a result that the Belpaire does not.
how much money do they expect to spend on this thing ? all the new stays and braces etc , and the WORK to install them is a long term project. and just WHO is the museum contracting to do the work.?
Your finding all these so-called problems in design but this boiler ran for how many years ? Stop all the BS and just get this famous engine restored. It’s been down long enough ..
I'd do your research, there's a lot more to steam locomotive restoration than meets the eye. Yeah, parts and appliances can be used for a long time, but not forever. It's not just about the locomotive either, it's about where will it run, what passengers cars are you going to use and how are you going to get them, or even restore them, does the home of the locomotive need to be upgraded or restored, and much, MUCH more. Sure, lots of locomotives have already been restored, but that doesn't mean it wasn't hard restoring them. The best way to make a restoration faster is by donating, even if it's a small amount.
Great to finally have competent professionals working on this iconic locomotive after years of mismanagement. Can't wait to see her run again. Ross Rowland
If anyone would know if these guys know what they're talking about, it would be Ross Rowland. Hope you're well, sir.
I'm a big fan of your work and your steam projects! Best to you Ross Rowland!
Great to hear from you! Wish I could get some of your wisdom on futures.
All of us at the J&L Narrow Gauge Railroad welcomes another operating steam locomotive so close to home. Eastern Ohio and Western Pennsylvania will soon become a great place for steam enthusiasts with standard gauge, three foot and two foot steam power!
I have a two year degree in mechanical engineering technology from PSU. I’ve seen everything from outstanding legitimate experts to genuinely clueless people in this profession over the past decade. I can say with confidence that this guy is the real deal. Glad he is directly involved in preserving our Central PA heritage and history!
Thank you, Nate!
I love it. My dad was a fireman and at the tail end was getting his engineer certification on the Pittsburgh Division. He was in Altoona many times. He fired numerous K4s. I grew up with a love for railroads, especially the Pennsy. I’m so glad your restoring 1361, and doing it the right way. As a tribute to my dad, I want to be there to see her run again. When he told his stories about his time on the railroad, I could almost feel the heat from the firebox, and the motion of the train.
The thrill of my life as a little boy was at Shire Oaks yard outside of Pittsburgh. At age three, with the help of my dads dear friend, an engineer with the Pennsy, I got to run a diesel locomotive. I’m 66 now, and to me it’s like yesterday. Thanks dad, and thank you all for making a dream come true.
Im glad to see a professional and comprehensive rebuild and restoration finally being conducted on this famous locomotive, I hope there will be more updates coming as this progresses.
We have another update coming later today!
Wolf Fengler seems like an incredibly knowledgeable and competent fellow with a great attention to details. The right man for the job.
Thank you!
Can't wait to see this engine run again.
Excellent overview & video! Inspires much confidence. Thank you and ALL the best w/ the restoration!
Mr. Fengler sounds like he understands the steel and how it is required to behave under heat and pressure. This iconic locomotive was dealt some seriously poor cards from the beginning of restoration forward. This can be done, and my hope is that funding will come through and one chef will be allowed in the kitchen!
Firebox design either was too thin or poor circulation of water above the crown sheet. Hopefully 1361 runs again someday
OMG.. I honestly NOW believe she will steam again.
So glad to hear.
Well said, Ross Rowland!
I was there on august 5th. Making wonderful progress
Appreciate the engineering professionalism. Thanks.
Excellent news (and I tend to believe an engineer whose hands show battle damage).
Very perceptive ;)
@@fmwsolutions More a case of been there, done that, have the broken fingers to prove it.
It would be great to have the Solidworks file to poke around in. I just got the 2021 version..
Those holes in the boiler the one's that look like stars when there standing inside , are those going to except ribbits or are they for something else?
What went wrong the last time this Locomotive was restored?
They didn't know what the !!!! they were doing. Fr'instance, there was some welding done on the boiler. It passed inspection. Then someone started grinding the "ugly" off the welds... voiding the inspection, /and the welds themselves/. Expensive re-do. And then there's the axle bearing thing. Moral of story: Just because your grandpa worked on them, doesn't make /you/ an expert.
It sounds like they 🤬on it! It takes an expert to restore one of these legends!
liked video
I don’t think Belpaire fireboxes were any more disposable than other types, the issue is the inside and outside plates are the same thickness whereas a curved firebox has a thicker wrapper sheet to compensate for the larger stay spacing that occurs on the section that has a radius. As a result a curved firebox wrapper sheet has a built in corrosion allowance as a result that the Belpaire does not.
1218 could use a check on his boiler...just incase
Look at the size of that firebox. Those things were originally hand-fired! Break your back with the Pennsy!
Imagine if they streamline it into Raymond Lowey's 3768 & renumber it
I doubt it would happen without someone writing a big check, but the museum DOES have a copy of the streaming casing sheet metal drawings for 3768...
is Number 1361 steaming.
It isn’t yet, but with donations it will. It also helps to spread the word on the project.
Warping??
how much money do they expect to spend on this thing ? all the new stays and braces etc , and the WORK to install them is a long term project. and just WHO is the museum contracting to do the work.?
Your finding all these so-called problems in design but this boiler ran for how many years ? Stop all the BS and just get this famous engine restored. It’s been down long enough ..
I'd do your research, there's a lot more to steam locomotive restoration than meets the eye. Yeah, parts and appliances can be used for a long time, but not forever. It's not just about the locomotive either, it's about where will it run, what passengers cars are you going to use and how are you going to get them, or even restore them, does the home of the locomotive need to be upgraded or restored, and much, MUCH more. Sure, lots of locomotives have already been restored, but that doesn't mean it wasn't hard restoring them. The best way to make a restoration faster is by donating, even if it's a small amount.
@@regularguy7266 Props to you for being competent 🙌🏼
Just because it ran safely before doesn’t mean it’ll run safely forever. All things need work eventually.
And how long did sit? You can't just fire an old boiler up, that's how you cause a steam explosion. The ability to speak does not make you intelligent