Lap the valves while waiting for the cam! Also, I hope this is the beginning of a relationship between Taylor and Texas Speed. He can build some awesome stuff with their support.
@@Taylordrifts cool I just remembered what Brent's friend All Motor Phong said about pulling every single hp out of a motor and that lapping the valves can get you a lot more than you would think but he was working on a Honda so he only had half the cylinders
Please stay you bro, don't let the youtube fame go to your head. So many channels go from showing their work to just show off their fancy high dollar parts, i enjoy your channel because you show your work and give all of us knowledge that we might not be able to get. Thank you for all your work. i cant wait to hear this engine running.
I scrolled down to the comments to say exactly that. Was quite shocked that he didn't clean the heads with the valves out then lap them before installing the new springs.
honestly him and probably a couple other youtubers out there deserve to get more recognition. its awesome that Texas Speed is working with you and I hope they decide to stick around and help you in the foreseeable future. love the content, really helps pass the time with all this time off. stay safe
You could get a very flat starett stone or something you know is perfectly fine flat and use 1,800-2000 or 2,500 grit wet sandpaper put it on your flat surface and set your head down on it and just push it back and forth with no downward Force only for the heads not the Block . / block use a big new sharping stone and long diagonal crosshatching passes
@@Slammed46 Agreed, I've tried every option to clean the gasket material and you have to use something with abrasion. I prefer a maybe slightly non strait surface to one with gasket material of varying thickness all over it. HG has enough give to cover that, but being MLS it needs a clean surface
Cool upgrade. Texas Speed is realy the go to company, everyone who is working with them like Cleetus McFarland is so stoked about how they work, the quality of their product and customer service. If I would need a company for a LS build I would defenitly contact Texas Speed. Can't wait to see you rip
Taylor, I put in a word to TSP about possibly helping you out with parts, etc...they responded by saying they were already in contact with you. Those guys are truly top notch. Thank you for the great content Taylor.
Love the progress Taylor, this is why I subscribed. The true grassroots engine building and drift dialogue. This builds to sport and creates a teaching opportunity for aspiring drifters. Keep up the amazing work bro
Taylor make sure you check your cam bearings. The one with the split journal can be a problem. Still check your PTV... My comp cam on the same ICL with 4 degrees less duration had .030-.040 PTV on my l92 at about 10 deg ATDC on the intake valve.
I do the same with those cheap totes, wash n oil, then when dirty use em for used parts storage. Good call on the cam n springs! You really gotta build for your APP n budget, sure a big radical cam makes more power but most aren't willing to feed them fresh springs often to keep it happy and not destroy the engine. I always try n tell people don't use a racecar cam on the street, one nights cruise is about the same miles that a trailer queen sees all season. Limited use is why they can be radical and still they will change the springs at least once a year. But somebody's friends uncle knew a guy who herd this dude once did it with no problems, so I'm sure it'll be fine!
So satisfying seeing the engine cleaned up. Looking forward to this duuuuuude! That yellow thing you were using to clean up the gasket surface looks like a 3m wheel I use sometimes. Sick bit of kit
Very nice progress Taylor! And I think Sandy tried to tell you she already had enough of keeping social distance..... Stay healthy, Dutch regards, Nico.
I have an LS3 with the exact same cam, similar valvetrain upgrades, and headers/intake. It made 481hp to the tire. Lots of top end power. Lost a lot of low end torque, but as long as you stay above 3 grand there plenty of power.
Hey Taylor, if your worry is about high RPM valve control, you should probably do solid rollers. The heavier valve spring are just going to stress those stock hyd lifters more
not sure on ls engines with high lift cams but a good idea to check retainer to valve seal clearance at max valve lift to be sure you dont hit seal with bottom of retainer. and if you have heads off and springs and retainers off i would lap all valves for piece of mind
would love to see you keep vvt on a future build. could be interesting to compare power band differences and overall responsiveness. i dont drift but i would have thought the vvt would give more low end torque/hp, which im sure would be an advantage for drifting even if a small one!
He mentioned in a previous video that noone has really messed with the vvt before and like old mate said, simple is better. In a drag car Yu could use the vvt to really get some numbers but not in drift I don't think
@@Alexx__xD huh I wasn't aware anyway seeming as it hasn't been tryed I'm sure it would be great content to experiment anyway! Even if it doesn't turn out to be worth it I'd sure watch the journey to that conclusion!
Plenty of guys in the drift scene running 2jz's and retaining VVT on them. The beautiful thing about VVT is you can run a mild can to keep good torque down low and use VVT to advance the cam and shift the powerband to higher rpms essentially flattening and broadening the torque curve. VVT has applications in all Motorsports. Tuners have embraced it, domestic V8 guys are still scared of it. That's really all it boils down to.
Texas speed does sell vvt cams and check UA-cam, they have dyno videos. I believe they even offer base maps for hptuners from what they have learned from the project. but as of now, I believe only the oem ecm can run the vvt. I don't believe the holley he's running can control it. plus it seems the bigger the cam, the less it can be used. so it's more suited to a heavier truck or suv that has a smaller cam retarded to help up top, than a big cam advanced to help down low, because you just can't get the adjustment needed to take advantage without piston to valve issues. maybe some day you will see off the shelf pistons with extra clearance for vvt setups but that I haven't seen yet.
I’ve been inspired and have officially decided to go for an LS in my 350Z over JZ. I’m going to follow your build and use the knowledge of Texas speed to help me out because it is going to be a new experience dealing with a V8 but 6.2 liters sounds wonderful. 🤘🏻
Update just incase Taylor sees this! Just ordered my L92 today and now starts the process of acquiring everything I need! Happy with my choice! I’m gonna watch the video through again but what accessory layout did you run again?
Hi Taylor, I have two curiosity: Is displacement 376 ? How exactly is the distance from engine block lower (from surface in contact with oil pan gasket) to the lower exterior of windage tray? Thx
Good choice on the CHE trunnion kit. I beat the absolute shit out of mine and after 8k miles I took one apart to inspect it, and there's almost no evidence of wear. Also the stage 3 cam from TSP is a much better fit for you, the stage 4 gives up some power around 4500-5600 and gains only a tiny bit from 6300 on up.
I hate to be Debbie Downer but you really should have disassembled the heads and then cleaned everything including the valves. Then lap the valves especially since you had leak down from some of the valves. And then reassembled them.
Buy yourself a brand new 6 or 8 inch sharpening stone. Longer and wider the better. Use the fine side and a light lubricant and use it to put as flat of a surface on blocks as you can without machining.
With motor and these parts what was final cost.. I’m really loving your build and think imma have give Texas a call myself .. great vid and info man..!! Def keep that camera rolling.. !
I see this was posted 3 years ago... I wonder how long the head gaskets lasted after the "very" wrong surface prep procedure.. You can't use abrasive accessories on the aluminum block.. ruts and groves can be created faster than can be controlled. It may work for a while but, the deck surface is now compromised and will require full disassembly to machine the deck to correct it. Especially if the gasket pops fairly quick. But... you could get lucky.. Also, it would have been a good idea to get a better look at the valve and seat surfaces when you had the heads apart... since there was a couple cylinders that had leak down issues and all..
Valve lift usually isn’t the piston to valve clearance problem, duration and cam timing are much bigger factors since the valves are closed when the piston comes up
Hey man I love the content, as your building the motor and not talking you should play some copyright free tunes. Set a good vibe it’ll be a nice touch
Good video as usual. I like those impacts. You have any recommendation on a good kit to buy from Milwakee that will be easier on the wallet (IE, not double pay for things.) but get my most of their options? From what I can see I will be stuck buying each one, but with a unfriendly battery combo. Almost feels like wasting money, really. I know I need to buy the Small, Med, and Large impact, but I don't see a kit that would be best for that.
I have one and the smaller m12 2.0Ah batteries die QUICK so id get the m12 4.0Ah that he has. It looks like the square m18 batteries but it has the 'stick' type connection all the m12 batteries have.
You have a 3d printer. Just build a sleeve to hold the sockets in place while removing the roller bearings. And with all the down time from lockdown you should show off your 3d printer.
A real nice budget friendly upgrade for that engine would have been to take the heads down to about 64cc and get the compression up a little more, and have a nice valve job done.
Hey bud you mite want to change those valve covers the crank case vent valve is built into the bottom of the these things and there was a lot of buildups of gummy stuff under the valve seals. The factory valve covers when the valve stops working and because how closely they are to the rocker arms as well as do to gummy buildup they will stop working and let a lot of oil up the vent line and in to the the intake manifold where it will sit when you shut it off your oil covered inside of your intake manifold the warm oil makes its way down to the top of the valves and wait for you to start it next and give you a nice blue smoke surprise lol so a nice set of taller valve covers would do the trick and look sweet . :-)
Whats low mileage? I had my old LS3 apart with 70k miles on it and itnwas spotless on the inside, that engine looks like the 20 dollar jiffy lube oil change every 7k miles lol rehardless itll be fine though
Lap the valves while waiting for the cam! Also, I hope this is the beginning of a relationship between Taylor and Texas Speed. He can build some awesome stuff with their support.
I was going to say to lap the valves too
+1 on lapping the valves while waiting for the other Springs.
To be honest I just didn't feel like doing it. They all were in really good shape. There was just a piece of gunk stuck on the leaky seats.
@@Taylordrifts cool I just remembered what Brent's friend All Motor Phong said about pulling every single hp out of a motor and that lapping the valves can get you a lot more than you would think but he was working on a Honda so he only had half the cylinders
@@larrysutton6530 but remember those motor are 4valve per cylinder heads. I would lap them that gunk can pit the surface causing a very small leak
Texas speed send this man some heads!!!
Please stay you bro, don't let the youtube fame go to your head. So many channels go from showing their work to just show off their fancy high dollar parts, i enjoy your channel because you show your work and give all of us knowledge that we might not be able to get. Thank you for all your work. i cant wait to hear this engine running.
Doing the sensible thing and going for a less aggressive cam is why you are so awesome.
Thank God. I was sitting here descending slowly into madness and got the notification for this video. Thanks man !
Should've taken a few extra minutes to lap the valves. Looking forward to the build tho!
wrexz thats what I just said 🤦🏻♂️
My thoughts exactly especially since there was leak down from the start. 😬
what about checking the installed height of the springs? necessary?
I scrolled down to the comments to say exactly that. Was quite shocked that he didn't clean the heads with the valves out then lap them before installing the new springs.
@@ALWhiteAuthor I agree he should have cleaned the head and laped the valves while he had the ability to and before moving on
Great video, you’re inspiring me to build an L92... can you update us on the cost and finances on engine.
I've been subscribed for so long that I remember Taylor saying he'd never LS swap the Miata lmao. Stoked to see the build continue
He made it sound like the idea was crazy too lol
honestly him and probably a couple other youtubers out there deserve to get more recognition. its awesome that Texas Speed is working with you and I hope they decide to stick around and help you in the foreseeable future. love the content, really helps pass the time with all this time off. stay safe
turn on the soft limiter feature in the holley to more gently thrash limiter
The plastic yellow wheel has abrasive in it,it's not only plastic.
You are conpromising the flatness.
i wire wheel all my heads and blocks.... works mint. never had one not seal
This. At the very least take a sharpening stone over all mating surfaces.
You could get a very flat starett stone or something you know is perfectly fine flat and use 1,800-2000 or 2,500 grit wet sandpaper put it on your flat surface and set your head down on it and just push it back and forth with no downward Force only for the heads not the Block . / block use a big new sharping stone and long diagonal crosshatching passes
@@Slammed46 Agreed, I've tried every option to clean the gasket material and you have to use something with abrasion. I prefer a maybe slightly non strait surface to one with gasket material of varying thickness all over it. HG has enough give to cover that, but being MLS it needs a clean surface
You had the heads off, do a port n polish make some extra power. Take it to fasterproms in tampa they can easily do them if youre scared of porting
Honestly I would recommend like five other performance tuning shops in Tampa before fasterproms
@@Johnny-tq9no LOL
@@Johnny-tq9no How come?
@@realMaverickBuckley there's a lot of better tuning /performance shops in Tampa and have better reputations for doing good work
Johnny you are definitely right about that one buddy!
It's rewarding just watching you get the engine that clean. Stoked to see this thing rip with the engine in it man!
Cool upgrade. Texas Speed is realy the go to company, everyone who is working with them like Cleetus McFarland is so stoked about how they work, the quality of their product and customer service. If I would need a company for a LS build I would defenitly contact Texas Speed. Can't wait to see you rip
Taylor, I put in a word to TSP about possibly helping you out with parts, etc...they responded by saying they were already in contact with you. Those guys are truly top notch. Thank you for the great content Taylor.
Love the progress Taylor, this is why I subscribed. The true grassroots engine building and drift dialogue. This builds to sport and creates a teaching opportunity for aspiring drifters. Keep up the amazing work bro
It's always great when a spring or snap ring goes flying, listening trying to hear where it landed.....lol...... gonna be a nice mota!
It's going to be great but I'm shocked that he didn't lap the valves being that it is so simple to do just time consuming
No McFarland honing this time
haha what was it called the dingleberry 3000 or something like that?
@@PossessedGaming07 Dingleball hone. Very common name for it in the auto world.
SkylineBNR34 r/woosh
@@oaug how is that a woosh?
Sandy is my favorite semi-regular on-air guest.
I’m so hyped with this bigger motor. This is going to be so sick
Gotta love Texas Speed!
I found your snap ring dude it landed in my cereal this morning.
Duuuuude lap the valves. It’s apart. Might as well. Can really only HELP
Taylor make sure you check your cam bearings. The one with the split journal can be a problem. Still check your PTV... My comp cam on the same ICL with 4 degrees less duration had .030-.040 PTV on my l92 at about 10 deg ATDC on the intake valve.
Love seeing sandy just waltz into shot now and then
Thank god you have sandy to supervise you and also, awesome Bucky shirt!!
Great Set Up & Parts Selection, Taylor Ray! They Are In For A Big Surprise At Round 3 Of Klutch Kickers.
Got some biggers tires to try out as well!
I do the same with those cheap totes, wash n oil, then when dirty use em for used parts storage. Good call on the cam n springs! You really gotta build for your APP n budget, sure a big radical cam makes more power but most aren't willing to feed them fresh springs often to keep it happy and not destroy the engine. I always try n tell people don't use a racecar cam on the street, one nights cruise is about the same miles that a trailer queen sees all season. Limited use is why they can be radical and still they will change the springs at least once a year. But somebody's friends uncle knew a guy who herd this dude once did it with no problems, so I'm sure it'll be fine!
So satisfying seeing the engine cleaned up. Looking forward to this duuuuuude! That yellow thing you were using to clean up the gasket surface looks like a 3m wheel I use sometimes. Sick bit of kit
What was the yellow head for your right angle?
Very nice progress Taylor! And I think Sandy tried to tell you she already had enough of keeping social distance..... Stay healthy, Dutch regards, Nico.
Taylor i am building this engine for my 69 corvette with american powertrain 5 speed transmission my first ls build. Keep up the good work
Why wouldn’t you lap the valves just because
A little limiter will take care of that
@@wheeln24-79 😂😂so true
@@wheeln24-79 huh?
@@jaredshaffer3901 limiter you know? Aussie's shake their finger in the air for people to do it.
I love these teardown and build up videos.
I have an LS3 with the exact same cam, similar valvetrain upgrades, and headers/intake. It made 481hp to the tire. Lots of top end power. Lost a lot of low end torque, but as long as you stay above 3 grand there plenty of power.
By this time next year he will go full boar and order a FULL Texas speed LS engine.
Hey Taylor, if your worry is about high RPM valve control, you should probably do solid rollers. The heavier valve spring are just going to stress those stock hyd lifters more
Toasty days in Florida are beautiful days in Florida
Ps why is Sandy so cute
not sure on ls engines with high lift cams but a good idea to check retainer to valve seal clearance at max valve lift to be sure you dont hit seal with bottom of retainer. and if you have heads off and springs and retainers off i would lap all valves for piece of mind
cant wait to see the Miata ripping with this beast
would love to see you keep vvt on a future build. could be interesting to compare power band differences and overall responsiveness. i dont drift but i would have thought the vvt would give more low end torque/hp, which im sure would be an advantage for drifting even if a small one!
When we drift we want to keep everything as simple as possible to keep the engine running healthy. Less things to worry about!
He mentioned in a previous video that noone has really messed with the vvt before and like old mate said, simple is better. In a drag car Yu could use the vvt to really get some numbers but not in drift I don't think
@@Alexx__xD huh I wasn't aware anyway seeming as it hasn't been tryed I'm sure it would be great content to experiment anyway! Even if it doesn't turn out to be worth it I'd sure watch the journey to that conclusion!
Plenty of guys in the drift scene running 2jz's and retaining VVT on them. The beautiful thing about VVT is you can run a mild can to keep good torque down low and use VVT to advance the cam and shift the powerband to higher rpms essentially flattening and broadening the torque curve. VVT has applications in all Motorsports. Tuners have embraced it, domestic V8 guys are still scared of it. That's really all it boils down to.
Texas speed does sell vvt cams and check UA-cam, they have dyno videos. I believe they even offer base maps for hptuners from what they have learned from the project. but as of now, I believe only the oem ecm can run the vvt. I don't believe the holley he's running can control it. plus it seems the bigger the cam, the less it can be used. so it's more suited to a heavier truck or suv that has a smaller cam retarded to help up top, than a big cam advanced to help down low, because you just can't get the adjustment needed to take advantage without piston to valve issues.
maybe some day you will see off the shelf pistons with extra clearance for vvt setups but that I haven't seen yet.
Hell yea I love Texas Speed 🦅
TSP makes some great products! That is going to be a badass motor!
I think someone's chop senses are tingling!!
So memorizing watching these videos from you, love a good engine cleaning
I’ve been inspired and have officially decided to go for an LS in my 350Z over JZ. I’m going to follow your build and use the knowledge of Texas speed to help me out because it is going to be a new experience dealing with a V8 but 6.2 liters sounds wonderful. 🤘🏻
Update just incase Taylor sees this!
Just ordered my L92 today and now starts the process of acquiring everything I need! Happy with my choice! I’m gonna watch the video through again but what accessory layout did you run again?
Try using oven cleaner on rocker arms next time. Mine came out brand new removed all oil stains
Hi Taylor, I have two curiosity:
Is displacement 376 ?
How exactly is the distance from engine block lower (from surface in contact with oil pan gasket) to
the lower exterior of windage tray?
Thx
stoked! thanks for being fairly detailed too! keep at it taylor loving it!
Got the same cam in my camaro, used slightly thinner head gaskets too and have 0 issues! I rev it up to 6600 over a 6200 stock rpm
Good choice on the CHE trunnion kit. I beat the absolute shit out of mine and after 8k miles I took one apart to inspect it, and there's almost no evidence of wear. Also the stage 3 cam from TSP is a much better fit for you, the stage 4 gives up some power around 4500-5600 and gains only a tiny bit from 6300 on up.
Brake clean a whole rag till it drips and scrub away. Works like a charm and no risk of damaging anything
Awesome video. I love the detail and the explanations. Can't wait for the next one!
Should have got Jeremy @fasterproms to Port your heads and intake manifold
I hate to be Debbie Downer but you really should have disassembled the heads and then cleaned everything including the valves. Then lap the valves especially since you had leak down from some of the valves. And then reassembled them.
Im pretty sure he knows this. Maybe he just didnt film lapping the valves?
A real 3 angle valve job is what he should have done!
All you need is some Texas speed heads!
Buy yourself a brand new 6 or 8 inch sharpening stone. Longer and wider the better. Use the fine side and a light lubricant and use it to put as flat of a surface on blocks as you can without machining.
will the motor run better cleaning the pistons like that?
What about individual throttle bodies? any pros/cons besides price? Great vid as always.
Tuning is more of a pain. Wayyyy more time to setup properly and tune!
What type of brush you use to clean the pistons and the headgasket plan?🤔
With motor and these parts what was final cost.. I’m really loving your build and think imma have give Texas a call myself .. great vid and info man..!! Def keep that camera rolling.. !
Good call on the cam
Those valve reliefs are very helpful
More power!!! Love the Miata
Are you doing a dry sup bottom end
9:00 yea I think so
Yea he's going dry sump
I would run a oil cleaner in that engine once it's running would suck if a bearing hole is clogged or barely getting oil. Then replace the oil/filter.
How did you clean in the heads? I'm gonna be tearing apart an rb26 and I wanna make it as brand new as possible.
As far as putting new trunyons in, I went to harbor freight and bought a cheap arbor press. It worked way better than just a standard vice.
Texas Speed!!! Hook this man up with an engine for the pro car he should be building!
I see this was posted 3 years ago... I wonder how long the head gaskets lasted after the "very" wrong surface prep procedure.. You can't use abrasive accessories on the aluminum block.. ruts and groves can be created faster than can be controlled. It may work for a while but, the deck surface is now compromised and will require full disassembly to machine the deck to correct it. Especially if the gasket pops fairly quick. But... you could get lucky.. Also, it would have been a good idea to get a better look at the valve and seat surfaces when you had the heads apart... since there was a couple cylinders that had leak down issues and all..
What kind of scrub brush are you using? Thanks
Always on point with the best content!
I have a VERY similar cam to that cam. Keep in mind your idle will most likely need to be tuned in open loop
What adapter brush is that to clean the aluminum block?
Any updates on the Fummins?
i like to use a very fine knife sharpening stone to clean the deck. keep it well oiled
Valve lift usually isn’t the piston to valve clearance problem, duration and cam timing are much bigger factors since the valves are closed when the piston comes up
Did the same thing last week with a CHE kit. Our set had an extra too! CHE knows one is bound to go missing haha
i would check your rings on that cylender that was problematic and it almost seems like there is a minor head gasket problem around that cylender
@Taylor Ray how are the shop lights holding up? would you still recommend them?
What size an brand fuel injectors did you use on the build
Whats the Milwaukee electric tool he used to clean the deck? I want one.
M12 right angle die grinder
thank you
Hey man I love the content, as your building the motor and not talking you should play some copyright free tunes. Set a good vibe it’ll be a nice touch
I would love to see some stainless custom headers on this engine!!
You just sending it on pushrod length or are you going to check lifter preload
Nice Work!
Where is the best place to get a custom wiring harness??
Ive learned a small harbor freight arbor press does great on the trunions. Yes they do include extras. lol
Good video as usual. I like those impacts. You have any recommendation on a good kit to buy from Milwakee that will be easier on the wallet (IE, not double pay for things.) but get my most of their options? From what I can see I will be stuck buying each one, but with a unfriendly battery combo. Almost feels like wasting money, really. I know I need to buy the Small, Med, and Large impact, but I don't see a kit that would be best for that.
Anybody know the Milwaukee tool he used in 10:25 I cannot find it for some reason. Thanks in advance guys.
Its just a fuel die grinder
I have one and the smaller m12 2.0Ah batteries die QUICK so id get the m12 4.0Ah that he has. It looks like the square m18 batteries but it has the 'stick' type connection all the m12 batteries have.
Taylor is one of those guys where I'd just like to sit down and have a drink and a conversation with
just wondering, what intake manifold are you going to use?
You have a 3d printer. Just build a sleeve to hold the sockets in place while removing the roller bearings. And with all the down time from lockdown you should show off your 3d printer.
no need to resurface the head for the new head gasket?
A real nice budget friendly upgrade for that engine would have been to take the heads down to about 64cc and get the compression up a little more, and have a nice valve job done.
Hey bud you mite want to change those valve covers the crank case vent valve is built into the bottom of the these things and there was a lot of buildups of gummy stuff under the valve seals. The factory valve covers when the valve stops working and because how closely they are to the rocker arms as well as do to gummy buildup they will stop working and let a lot of oil up the vent line and in to the the intake manifold where it will sit when you shut it off your oil covered inside of your intake manifold the warm oil makes its way down to the top of the valves and wait for you to start it next and give you a nice blue smoke surprise lol so a nice set of taller valve covers would do the trick and look sweet . :-)
Nice i was wondering what is the word on the fummins ?
Whats low mileage? I had my old LS3 apart with 70k miles on it and itnwas spotless on the inside, that engine looks like the 20 dollar jiffy lube oil change every 7k miles lol rehardless itll be fine though
My friend did a CHE trunion kit a couple weeks ago and it does come with an extra snap ring lol
A brass wire wheel is really good for this cuz its soft metal so you wont damage your block
What will you be able to rev it to?