It's crazy to me how this video has picked up quite a lot of views and questions. Never expected that. It was actually just done quickly for TikTok (find me as Cloudburzt on there), but I'll try to get around to your questions and requests.
this is so awesome dude!!! even though i have a general understanding of music, the rhythm of the notes is always what screws me up. coming up with the riffs in my head is easy but getting them onto the paper is hard.
Thank you for giving us an inside look at the program, especially since I've never used it before. If one was ever to routinely add other instruments for composing, such as synthesizers or basic to intermediate symphonic orchestration, would you still recommend GuitarPro? In the past, I've used FL Studio and used synthesizers to create Sega-Genesis-like mockups of guitar-parts prior to tracking them. I'm interested in GP due to having the guitar parts written down in neat and dare I say "professional" looking notation/tab format. I understand that there is no piano roll for MIDI writing. I don't mind using standard notation as opposed to a piano roll (in some cases I would prefer standard notation).
Thanks for your comment! I'll try to do a video reply to this soon (if I forget for some reason, don't hesitate to remind me!) - I use Guitar Pro to sketch out ideas including synth stuff, however it does take some editing (or real playing) when recording parts. I do have an older quick video that just showcases another few different things, which might give you some inspiration/thoughts/ideas on whether to use Guitar Pro 8 or not: ua-cam.com/video/JDdw-3XS6NM/v-deo.html
@@Cloudburzt Kind of you to offer to do a video reply; that's an extra mile that I wouldn't expect anyone to do. I guess I really should have a block of time where I am free to test run a downloadable trial of GP8 (I think it's a week long free trial). However, I am gleaming whatever insights I can from tutorials like this. It is once again dawning upon me that my current paradigm of writing the notes for the guitar parts down in piano roll synths is really not going to be beaten at this time. I guess the pasture isn't going to be greener for GP in spite of the convenience of starting and finishing a project with working tabs/notation. On my youtube page I have an example of such a process that I take to create a tune. I tend to riff around on my guitar for planting seeds of segments of an idea. However, I have written plenty of music down from my head instead of letting the guitar noodles do the writing for me (which means I have to go back and learn/rehearse the parts to track them, hilariously enough). Therefore, if the time comes that I somehow need to write the notes down onto tab/notation, I'll simply have to transcribe them from FL Studio to something like Musescore OR GP (If I still decide to purchase a license anyways). When I dump MIDI tracks into Muscscore it just becomes such a discombobulated mess that I might as well transcribe from scratch and might even spend less time cleaning up the atonal-slur-tie-vomit. Looks like GuitarPro will be no different, except that it seems that GP is more specialized in checking playback with guitar-centric articulations such as palm mute or bends/vibrato/whammy-bar-use, no? Musescore seems to lack such marionette features, at least for guitar. In short, for the time being I suppose I should simply let programs such as Musescore and GuitarPro do what they're best at -- which is INSCRIBING music for the instrument of choice; not be some sort of a pre-amp DAW.
Man I do guitars like this too starting recently because it's just easier for me but the drums are a whole other ball game. I think it's just easier for me at this point to use my midi controller for the drums and quantize lol. and go in the piano roll in the DAW after and change whatever I don't like
not enough guitarists are honest about this approach to writing, imo. i feel most of the great modern guitarists utilise production tools, in this case a tab editor, and for others the piano roll in cubase/their DAW to write first, and learn the part later
I think people learn, write and compose very differently. I know a few people who jump will jam around coming up with a riff, jump into their DAW, double track it, write some drums, then maybe do some more sections that way. Other people I know seem to do it as a band, one guy just bringing something and then people adding to it. I've not had many successful experiences with bands to be honest, so consider myself a solo musician now. Haha. And my "ear and memory" in terms of just coming up with a riff in a DAW/band situation is not always great. I do think I have an okay sense of melody in terms of writing melodic parts or improvising, but I like having the notation for all the instruments, I like knowing all the parts of the other instruments etc. and Guitar Pro helps give a good feel for and overview of that in terms of notation. Albeit very proggy, this was written in that way too: ua-cam.com/video/f7rl1SH8Qik/v-deo.html But I'm very fond of notation (sheet and tab) for all instruments and it's sort of a passion of mine, I suppose.
Thank you for making this! I just got guitar pro 8. Im trying to make a Crazy Train tab tutorial video. Entering the correct tab numbers is the easy part. Im trying to figure out where to put bars to get the timing right.
When you say bars, what do you mean? I'd focus on where the drums land, so for instance in Crazy Train once the drums get going you have a kick on 1 and 3, snare on 2 and 4 in about ~140 bpm from what I'm hearing. When that pattern repeats, that will be your first bar/measure. The guitars in the verse play 16th notes, if I recall correctly, so you'll have 16 of those in each measure. Sometimes in songs there might be notes that are tied across a bar (I can't remember if that's the case in Crazy Train), and you can use "L" (key) to to tie a note from the next bar to the previous one. Those are some quick tips without knowing exactly where you are with tabbing it out.
Sounds good, but looks like it magically appears on the page to me? I was looking to see how the connections happen: interface to GP and it might be very simple to do? Thanks and you sound great!!!
There's no interface into Guitar Pro - but I think you can possibly do that with a midi keyboard/midi guitar or any kind of midi setup. I'm just typing in the notes via the numpad on the regular computer keyboard - there's not really any magic happening, just the same as you would in a Word document :)
@@Cloudburzt I got one of the Fesley guitars as a starter. It had a lot of good reviews for it. I didn't want to invest a lot of money on the first guitar, but didn't want a bad, cheap guitar. I also purchased guitar pro version 8. Been playing drums for a few decades, but never got into music theory. Thanks
What notes are you referring to? :) Gonna try to give a general answer: I input notes in Guitar Pro using my computer keyboard - in tabs format, so clicking 3 on the numpad (or number row) while on the A string will give just that; a 3rd fret on the A string, and then you can of course choose how long that note is etc. The ideas for whatever I write is a combination of things though - some from playing my keyboard, some from playing guitar etc. The notes in Guitar Pro are auto-played as you enter them, and you can play back the file of course. Similar to other notation software. As for recording: I am not the best keyboard player, so if I'm recording the ideas afterwards I might export the midi file from Guitar Pro (the track with keyboard) and import into Reaper. I do the same with drums for instance. And then I will edit velocity, timing and such for a more human feel in Reaper. If it's not too advanced I might play the keyboard parts myself. Let me know if I completely misunderstood your question!
Is it possible to write for two (or more?) instruments at once on the same score .. I've been looking round the internet for days and can't get an answer to this anywhere? So, can I have two separate staves above and below each other for say guitar and bass or rhythm and lead?
Yes, it is possible. If I understand correctly, you mean like this? This is a screenshot from Guitar Pro with guitar, bass, drums etc. But you can select which ones you want to specifically show or not show in "multitrack view". i.imgur.com/1UwMNQs.png
@@Cloudburzt Yes, ha ha! at least I have a word for it now "Multitrack" .. I've been asking about two voices, multiple voices, two scores ... ha ha! could not get an answer! So now, _HOW_ does one go about starting a new transcription with Multitrack enabled or should I say, how do I open a new template that has two sets of tracks to score?
@@Cloudburzt It's ok, I just figured it out .. One must right-click on the "Track" at the bottom of the page and "Add Track" then either press F3 or got to "View" and select "Multitrack"
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It's crazy to me how this video has picked up quite a lot of views and questions. Never expected that. It was actually just done quickly for TikTok (find me as Cloudburzt on there), but I'll try to get around to your questions and requests.
this is so awesome dude!!! even though i have a general understanding of music, the rhythm of the notes is always what screws me up. coming up with the riffs in my head is easy but getting them onto the paper is hard.
Thank you for the nice comment! I hope the video helps. Let me know if you have any specific questions!
Thank you for giving us an inside look at the program, especially since I've never used it before. If one was ever to routinely add other instruments for composing, such as synthesizers or basic to intermediate symphonic orchestration, would you still recommend GuitarPro? In the past, I've used FL Studio and used synthesizers to create Sega-Genesis-like mockups of guitar-parts prior to tracking them. I'm interested in GP due to having the guitar parts written down in neat and dare I say "professional" looking notation/tab format.
I understand that there is no piano roll for MIDI writing. I don't mind using standard notation as opposed to a piano roll (in some cases I would prefer standard notation).
Thanks for your comment!
I'll try to do a video reply to this soon (if I forget for some reason, don't hesitate to remind me!) - I use Guitar Pro to sketch out ideas including synth stuff, however it does take some editing (or real playing) when recording parts. I do have an older quick video that just showcases another few different things, which might give you some inspiration/thoughts/ideas on whether to use Guitar Pro 8 or not: ua-cam.com/video/JDdw-3XS6NM/v-deo.html
@@Cloudburzt Kind of you to offer to do a video reply; that's an extra mile that I wouldn't expect anyone to do. I guess I really should have a block of time where I am free to test run a downloadable trial of GP8 (I think it's a week long free trial). However, I am gleaming whatever insights I can from tutorials like this.
It is once again dawning upon me that my current paradigm of writing the notes for the guitar parts down in piano roll synths is really not going to be beaten at this time. I guess the pasture isn't going to be greener for GP in spite of the convenience of starting and finishing a project with working tabs/notation. On my youtube page I have an example of such a process that I take to create a tune. I tend to riff around on my guitar for planting seeds of segments of an idea. However, I have written plenty of music down from my head instead of letting the guitar noodles do the writing for me (which means I have to go back and learn/rehearse the parts to track them, hilariously enough).
Therefore, if the time comes that I somehow need to write the notes down onto tab/notation, I'll simply have to transcribe them from FL Studio to something like Musescore OR GP (If I still decide to purchase a license anyways). When I dump MIDI tracks into Muscscore it just becomes such a discombobulated mess that I might as well transcribe from scratch and might even spend less time cleaning up the atonal-slur-tie-vomit. Looks like GuitarPro will be no different, except that it seems that GP is more specialized in checking playback with guitar-centric articulations such as palm mute or bends/vibrato/whammy-bar-use, no? Musescore seems to lack such marionette features, at least for guitar.
In short, for the time being I suppose I should simply let programs such as Musescore and GuitarPro do what they're best at -- which is INSCRIBING music for the instrument of choice; not be some sort of a pre-amp DAW.
I'm just starting, a crash course on what all the notations mean would be great.
I will try to get around to it :) I think it's a great idea!
@@Cloudburzt
I too would love a course on that!
Also creating timing and rhythm notation feels like rocket science
@@shredgod6394 Thanks for commenting here and reminding me! I will try to get it done! Always happy to get some suggestions.
Man I do guitars like this too starting recently because it's just easier for me but the drums are a whole other ball game. I think it's just easier for me at this point to use my midi controller for the drums and quantize lol. and go in the piano roll in the DAW after and change whatever I don't like
Thank you for sharing.👍🎸
Of course! My pleasure!
not enough guitarists are honest about this approach to writing, imo.
i feel most of the great modern guitarists utilise production tools, in this case a tab editor, and for others the piano roll in cubase/their DAW to write first, and learn the part later
I think people learn, write and compose very differently. I know a few people who jump will jam around coming up with a riff, jump into their DAW, double track it, write some drums, then maybe do some more sections that way. Other people I know seem to do it as a band, one guy just bringing something and then people adding to it. I've not had many successful experiences with bands to be honest, so consider myself a solo musician now. Haha. And my "ear and memory" in terms of just coming up with a riff in a DAW/band situation is not always great. I do think I have an okay sense of melody in terms of writing melodic parts or improvising, but I like having the notation for all the instruments, I like knowing all the parts of the other instruments etc. and Guitar Pro helps give a good feel for and overview of that in terms of notation.
Albeit very proggy, this was written in that way too:
ua-cam.com/video/f7rl1SH8Qik/v-deo.html
But I'm very fond of notation (sheet and tab) for all instruments and it's sort of a passion of mine, I suppose.
Cough cough....Polyphia....cough cough.
Thank you for making this! I just got guitar pro 8. Im trying to make a Crazy Train tab tutorial video. Entering the correct tab numbers is the easy part. Im trying to figure out where to put bars to get the timing right.
When you say bars, what do you mean?
I'd focus on where the drums land, so for instance in Crazy Train once the drums get going you have a kick on 1 and 3, snare on 2 and 4 in about ~140 bpm from what I'm hearing. When that pattern repeats, that will be your first bar/measure. The guitars in the verse play 16th notes, if I recall correctly, so you'll have 16 of those in each measure. Sometimes in songs there might be notes that are tied across a bar (I can't remember if that's the case in Crazy Train), and you can use "L" (key) to to tie a note from the next bar to the previous one.
Those are some quick tips without knowing exactly where you are with tabbing it out.
I've actually just done a quick video on it for you. It should be up soon. I'll tag you in it if possible or link it here.
Great vid!
Thanks, Todd! Nearly 20 years of extensive experience with this program means I work pretty fast in it.
Sounds good, but looks like it magically appears on the page to me? I was looking to see how the connections happen: interface to GP and it might be very simple to do? Thanks and you sound great!!!
There's no interface into Guitar Pro - but I think you can possibly do that with a midi keyboard/midi guitar or any kind of midi setup. I'm just typing in the notes via the numpad on the regular computer keyboard - there's not really any magic happening, just the same as you would in a Word document :)
@@Cloudburzt Thanks for your reply. My first guitar is being shipped to me from Amazon, so no experience yet. Thanks again!!!
@@sweetdragon36067 My pleasure! Which one did you buy? 😊
@@Cloudburzt I got one of the Fesley guitars as a starter. It had a lot of good reviews for it. I didn't want to invest a lot of money on the first guitar, but didn't want a bad, cheap guitar. I also purchased guitar pro version 8. Been playing drums for a few decades, but never got into music theory. Thanks
@@sweetdragon36067 That's cool! I don't know the brand, but I'll check it out. I hope your guitar journey goes well!
Hi there, are you playing these notes on your keyboard or do you have a synth?
What notes are you referring to? :) Gonna try to give a general answer:
I input notes in Guitar Pro using my computer keyboard - in tabs format, so clicking 3 on the numpad (or number row) while on the A string will give just that; a 3rd fret on the A string, and then you can of course choose how long that note is etc. The ideas for whatever I write is a combination of things though - some from playing my keyboard, some from playing guitar etc. The notes in Guitar Pro are auto-played as you enter them, and you can play back the file of course. Similar to other notation software.
As for recording:
I am not the best keyboard player, so if I'm recording the ideas afterwards I might export the midi file from Guitar Pro (the track with keyboard) and import into Reaper. I do the same with drums for instance. And then I will edit velocity, timing and such for a more human feel in Reaper. If it's not too advanced I might play the keyboard parts myself.
Let me know if I completely misunderstood your question!
Is it possible to write for two (or more?) instruments at once on the same score .. I've been looking round the internet for days and can't get an answer to this anywhere?
So, can I have two separate staves above and below each other for say guitar and bass or rhythm and lead?
Yes, it is possible. If I understand correctly, you mean like this? This is a screenshot from Guitar Pro with guitar, bass, drums etc. But you can select which ones you want to specifically show or not show in "multitrack view".
i.imgur.com/1UwMNQs.png
@@Cloudburzt Yes, ha ha! at least I have a word for it now "Multitrack" .. I've been asking about two voices, multiple voices, two scores ... ha ha! could not get an answer!
So now, _HOW_ does one go about starting a new transcription with Multitrack enabled or should I say, how do I open a new template that has two sets of tracks to score?
@@Cloudburzt It's ok, I just figured it out .. One must right-click on the "Track" at the bottom of the page and "Add Track" then either press F3 or got to "View" and select "Multitrack"
@@coolmacatrain9434 Exactly! Glad you figured it out! Nice!
@@Cloudburzt Cheers from Donegal, Storm!
Thanks for sharing! Subbed, check
My pleasure!