@@ssppooppcristi6734 she is actually smart af when it comes to predictions she was just being a Wahmen who love romance in this reaction XD but even she didn't buy all of this BS
@@ssppooppcristi6734 this reactor are really good and they loved eren from the very begining and understand the story so welly but in the end isamiya just dropped some bullshit thats why they cannt take it! who are defending this bullshit of writer they just removed there common sense while watching it or they are just happy that writer ruin eren remove eren character development motivation agency and freewill and make him pathetic in just one chapter! they actually didnt give a shit as there other side character got happy happy ending!
I Think Ange/Carlie did not notice as much errors because they had forgotten part of the story already from how long it took for the ending to be animated.
@@Vortex_ICEcold saint conviniently cut out the parts where ange said that he still gives the finale a high rating and considers the finale to be good in general despite having some issues with it.
This person's problem 1. He is trapped within the frame of animation and is angry like an angry chimpanzee. 2. Even if there are parts of the reaction that people think are wrong, they should be cool about it because Happiness is “the pleasure of others and I,” so we must not destroy it
@@udithsethu552 i mean lets be honest, its hard to admit that its trash because the rest of attack on titan was so great and its hard to let go. give him some time he will let go.
@@Valkyraw and because the animation sound music voice acting is all dust on the garb0 writing which is what we lacked in the manga and we only had the garb0 writing
@@ValkyrawVery true. It's hard to even fathom that chapters 130 and 131 are written by the same guy who wrote 139 lmao. I don't think I've ever seen such a massive gulf in quality of writing in a single series, much less within 8 chapters.
Isayama had lost it. If Eren is such a sentimental man that he sacrifice Paradise for his friends, he would definitely 100% save his mum. If Eren is a cold calculated person that would sacrifice his mum, he would 100% chose Paradise over his friends. Something doesn't tie up here
Dr strange simulate billion possible outcome in an hour and found one good outcome to save the world Eren simulate all possible future in a lifetime but couldn't find one to end the hatred and save paradi Yeah... Good writing
Remember when kruger said that regardless of the time period, the attack titan marches in the vanguard for the sake of freedom. Why do you think that was? Yea that was because Eren was the final successor controlling every predecessor. We’ve been bamboozled all along guys. Now we know the attack titan marches in the vanguard because it’s an “ordinary idiot” that got its hands on power. Bravo! Great writing 👏🏻 🤣🤦🏻!
The guy in the white shirt is based... he knows what he's talking about..he's got common sense and is asking the right questions and is saying the right things.. i wish more people did this and not just take Isayama's "Random Bullshit Goes Brrrrr" to their face but oh well someday when they snap out of their dream world they just might catch on to it..
Eren could've saved his mom and given Eldia a titan with royal blood, while his father collected the founding titan. by episode 3 we'd be in the best position we've seen in the entire series... and we'd have Erwin... Eldia would be saved
I think he couldn't do anything about that in the universe of aot it is implied that everything is predetermined, Eren died the moment he touched Historia after that he is just Ymir puppet
@@d.dr.v42one thing should be known about fate, like a wise man once said: fate only binds you if you let it But yams was like: nah nah, this one ain't getting away from the hands of fate no matter what
First: Eren can't change anything from before he is beheaded by Gabi and gets the Founding from Zeke, the moment he changes something he becomes incapable of making a change reverting everything(probably this is what Eren(+Owl) mean by saying that he tried alternatives and everything just repeats). Second: Eldia can't be saved, that is the whole point of the show... the only reason Eren was able to give 100-200 years of peace to them is because the outside was reduced to ashes and the inside was afraid of revenge making them concentrate on arming themselves instead of infighting. Even if he did 100% that would have only led to a civil war within Paradis that would have eventually led to his and the scouts end... the whole point of the story is that conflict is "human nature" and a single person is perfectly incapable of changing that... that is why Armin accepts Erens choice in the dream, he knows Eren didn't really have a choice that doesn't include genocide
There's no reason to focus on the specific Bertholdt Carla situation. Eren could apparently control all titans ever. It makes no more sense for the story to have happened in the first place.
@@CombatUnit621 Time travel confuses Isayama too. Chapter 121+122 was great, but as soon as I read it, I knew there was going to be some plot issues somewhere. Time travel always leads to issues in storytelling.
He was a slave to Ymir's liberation. He knew so many things. Anything else he would have done would have led to a scenario where Ymir isn't freed and the curse remains.
@@parisrealick He was obsessed with freedom since the beginning, literally since chapter one. In 139 we only learn the final twist that Ymir was a slave to love and that her liberation needed a unique and specific scenario. Therefore, as a slave to freedom, Eren couldnt ignore this situation thus he had to free Ymir.
@fs400ion "Her liberation needed a unique and specific scenario" is literally like you're saying, "we don't know wtf she wanted bcs it had to be unique and specific." Eren himself didn't know why tf Ymir even chose Mikasa he even said, "Only Ymir knows." So no, not even Eren knew why bcs in the end it all was determinism. If Eren could've gone a different route, anything just ANYTHING from the moment his mom "needed" to be eaten, things would've been different. Although Eren himself said he was an idiot so ig it was a lost cause from the start, which literally destroyed his "I was born into this world."
@@Rox7ne But we Do know why Mikasa freed Ymir. It's because of how Mikasa was able to do what Ymir couldnt when she was alive. Also Eren's case is really complex. On one hand he was a slave to the future he saw but also the reason this future happened is because he purposly decided to go along with it.
Just found your content about why chapter 139 is objectively god awful and brother, you articulate a good understanding about why this story ended so disappointingly with a lot of people. It's not the popular opinion but definitely one filled with a good understanding of writing with logic and consistency. Mad respect to you.
@@crayyx the ending is OBJECTIVELY bad, eremika is OBJECTIVELY bad, and the partial rumbling is OBJECTIVELY bad 😭 the whole story was great, and then yams created the biggest piece of dogshit ive ever seen
Honestly Iseyama could’ve easily just said that Eren couldn’t completely control Dina because she was a Titan of royal blood. Zeke literally rebels against Eren to help the alliance so it wouldn’t even be breaking lore.
If killing her was a unforeseen consequence then it wouldve been well written and very shocking. The fact that he purposely did it quite literally assassinates his core personality. Why would eren ponder on what his mother would think of the rumbling, then when the rumbling starts, he purposely kills her, no hesitation. He doesn’t even try to reject that future, he just willingly follows it.
Isayama literally just had to not write anything about Dina. It was believable that she would be the titan to find Carla crushed under rubble, especially with Eren and co screaming and making so much noise. Having Eren be the one who sent her was just dumb and unnecessary in every way.
@@MrRisk1111Because it already happened and it has to happen. Eren guiding Dina to Karla is under the same logic of Eren manipulating Grisho into killing the Royal Family, except for Rod Reiss. In order for the sequence of events to occur and reach that point in which Eren is able to use the Founder's power, Eren must use said powers to ensure he gets them. Doing anything else causes a paradox. He has all the power in the world, but that power is what it KEEPS HIM TRAPED too. 2+2 is 4 guys. Connect the dots. Think about it, if Karla didn't die Eren wouldn't have had his hateful drive. He already had motivation for freedom and was planning to join the military, but his hate wasn't there until Karla was eaten. Furthermore, Eren did not send memories of Karla's fate to Grisha and Grisha himself asks why is Eren not showing him? Well, basically because Grisha learns about Karla when he talks to Eren in the refugees camp. Eren wanted Grisha to learn about her death by the words of little Eren so he would get his hate back and make the decision to give Eren the Founder. So you see, Karla had to die both to motivate Eren, and to guarantee that Grisha would give the power to him. Another question left: why Dina specifically? Why not another random Titan? To that there's TWO reasons. Bertholdt had to stay alive, The Colossal's power proved to be useful in the assault to Liberio, and the capture of the Marleyan Scouting ships. Also, if Bertholdt died, the Warriors plan would've drastically change, or they would've left. Like it or not it was thanks to the Warriors that the Scouts learned a lot about the Titan Powers and that led to them being able to overthrow the government, take back Shingansina, learn the truth of the world, and reach the sea. The second reason is the fact that Eren got a personal vendetta against Dina's Titan specifically. It's thanks to that fact, that Eren touches her in S2 and uncovers some of the Founder' Powers. Also, again, if the Warriors weren't there to capture Eren and have the chase in S2, Eren wouldn't have made contact with Dina. Guys I literally don't see the problem here. Previous to this revelation Dina ignoring Bert and coincidentally eating Karla were plot conveniences. Now they make sense, as it is Eren's doing to ensure him getting the Founder's full power.
@@danielmunoz1275 first 4 lines is already a headcanon. Not reading this. I can agree, it does have to happen. But stating that it already happened as if its a predetermined path is a headcanon. Problem is, theres no way eren couldn’t have think of any other choice other than killing his mother. Its shock value and contradicts many things in his character for the fact that he would even think that way.
its interesting viewing these videos cuz after the anime finale episode, its one of the few places of the internet where almost the entire comment section is still filled with people who hated the ending
I still hate the fact that Isayama thought the whole Ymir loving the King was a good idea… everything else is either ok or bad but that one is the worst written “plot twists” I’ve seen yet
He didn't. He's a great mangaka. He just wanted to destroy the whole story because the editors rejected his ending for fanservice reasons and pressured him. He succeeded in doing it with just 2 chapters. It takes great talent even to mess up the story in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. in such a short time.
Ymir logic Directly rebelling against the will of the king by siding with eren against a member of the royal family -> not free from the king's influence -Watching a woman kill the guy she loves -> completely free after 2000 years Wut
Remember when kruger said that regardless of the time period, the attack titan marches in the vanguard for the sake of freedom. Why do you think that was? Yea that was because Eren was the final successor controlling every predecessor. We’ve been bamboozled all along guys. Now we know the attack titan marches in the vanguard because it’s an “ordinary idiot” that got its hands on power. Bravo! Great writing 👏🏻 🤣🤦🏻!
@@Thundeclap no he never explained why he was an idiot. He simply said that wanted to do it lol. The right line is “because I was born into this world.” Not “cuz I’m idiot lol *mwah armin*”
@@Thundeclap all he said was he’s an idiot that got power. What part do you not understand? He’s saying power got to his head 🤣. You didn’t understand the story. Also he’s not an idiot because like you said that was his only choice. HOW does that make him an idiot? An idiot wouldn’t have done anything. Terrible story.
Why Eren's mother died you say, huh?! It's too easy.. cause Eren wanted Annie, Annie's father, Reiner, Reiner's mother, pieck and pieck's to live, not his mother😂
Don’t remind me. I vomited in my mouth. Just imagine how fucking awesome it would have been if PIECK died IMMEDIATELY when the war hammer shoved the spear up her ass at the start? That would’ve been so good by the writer to show how fast you can drop like a fly when facing the founder. The final motherfucking boss. But ofcourse Eren has to let her live because plot lol.
Bertholdt-dina twist is just terrible It was unnecessary af: dina should have eaten carla just because she happened to be there and berth just hid in time as we thought pre-time skip. It wouldn't have been a plot hole either as it needed no explanation. Until post-time skip there was no mystery about it, this subplot ALREADY had payoff But isayama decided (um, why?) to ruin it by adding that panel with berth first and then revealing everything at the last moment when it didn't even matter anymore as it had little time to be explained and to make us feel at least some kind of emotion And now, after such a stupid moment for the shock value, we have dozens of plotholes as eren turns out to be someone who could have: - saved so many people: his family, comrades, friends etc. - solved so many issues in this story by coming up with much easier plans, - predicted the future and actions of everyone, - let dina eat bertold, led grisha to her after taking the founder away and made him touch his ex-wife to start the rumbling, for instance, - finished everything much sooner, even before being born, - used the ability to control titans through time and space multiple times and so on But no, "I'm gonna use it only once, to kill the person I love the most in this world and ruin my entire motivation, let dina avoid bertholdt, my enemy, IN PAST, even though it could help the island a lot, blame reiner for my mother's death and also ask myself what my mom would think about the rumbling while being the reason why she can't say anything now. However, I can't make my colossal titans leave hange, my friend, alone in PRESENT because this story should have more drama. Also, I'm somehow able to sacrifice my mom and the entire family but not my friends" Brilliant!
@@annett_55555 I would rather not go through every point because I don't really care that much but you do know eren can't change the past right that's the first thing I want to say the second thing I want to say is eren didn't know he influenced his mom when he talked to reiner he did when he gained the founding powers that's all I would rather not go through all ur points since it's full of biased hate lol
@@Johan590 Eren still could have come up with much better solutions but he decided to do THIS And him killing carla as I said was unneeded. It added nothing but inconsistencies
@@annett_55555 didn't u hear when eren said I tried other methods but this was the best one did u even pay attention the fact that people like ur comments show how stupid this Fandom is
They were not. Saint cut out all the good things they said about the finale and conviniently left in the criticism section. Ange literally says that in general, he liked the ending and give it a high rating although he had some issues with it.
Anyone who loves the ending does not know anything about common sense and plot. These the type of people to watch Avengers Endgame and say it’s a masterpiece 10/10. It doesn’t make sense. But these people are too lazy to research why the ending is terrible and out 2 and 2 together. These people are just happy with the ending just because it was cool.
Because just like AOT fans , they’re already emotionally invested. Once they sat there and watched their movie/show for 10+ years their brains turn off and love the fan service and don’t care if it makes sense or not
@@Cypress_animation filled with a bunch of plot holes the stakes got so low especially since they got the pym particles. So what happens when couples that moved on from their relationship after 5 years then they come back after the snap? They Made Thor look like a joke. Ruined Hulk after that ass whopping in Infinity War. They do a whole funeral for Tony Stark but what about Black Widow?
Am I understanding this right? Eren could control the actions of all titans including the lesser titans, and could remove powers at any time. And he actually had this power restrospectively and chose all titans to act exactly as they did. And he chose things to play out like that because it brought about ultimate goal which was the destroy 80% of humanity and be killed by armin and mikasa so that they would be seen as hero’s. And he wants them to be seen as heroes so the remaining 20% of humanity will not hate them or paradis, instead they will love paradis because Armin and mikasa ended the rumbling. If that’s the plot then yes, it dosent make sense as to why eren chose it all to happen. He could have : A. Removed all titan powers held by anyone except paradis. B. Caused titan shifters and lesser titans to turn around and go harm Marley from the start - a lesser rumbling. C. Gone further back in time and prevented the outside world from advancing in the first place. D. Caused the rumbling to begin years and years ago . Why did eren specifically want a fraction of the outside world to survive? Why not just have them all killed? Then this ‘being seen as hero’s’ wouldn’t matter
Another plot hole in this story is when Freida Reiss fights Grisha, she could've easily erased his memories but never does. She just forgets she has unbeatable powers😂
She was inexperienced and couldn't use the full power. She could have beaten him but Freida is not a fighter in any respect. Grisha is a knife, Frieda is a gun. One is much more powerful and better than the other. But that doesn't matter if you've never really shot your gun before.
@ryancroy bro she had the power to erase minds. She didn't use it cause bad writing. She used it countless times on historia but when it came to use it for shit that mattered, she didn't do shit with it
@@ryancroy that's like a wizard forgetting to use his magic spells in battle. Gotta be the dumbest fucking shit ever. Imagine having an instant "I fucking win trump card" and forgetting it exists. Beyond retarded writing
Wait, something to consider about the segment regarding Eren killing Carla: Eren gave Dina a 2 part command: 1. Go somewhere else 2. Eat this other person instead If he had the power to do that, he could've just as easily given her only the first half of that command: 1. Go somewhere else. He didn't have to kill Carla whatsoever But this implies that the only way he could've been motivated to do everything leading to the rumbling would be for Carla to be killed, which we obviously know isn't the case, from episode 1 season 1 But then according to 139's logic, this makes it seem like this whole timeloop/cycle/paradox/whatever starts with Carla being killed WITHOUT Eren's interference So what the fuck is the point of this paradox??? Literally fucking nothing
You're missing some facts. Carla's death was necessary to assure Eren gets the Founding Titan. Grisha clearly asks Zeke to stop Eren before he meets kid Eren and after he kills the Royal Family. Remember that Grisha asks Eren why he doesn't show what happened to Carla? When kid Eren tells Grisha that Carla was eaten by a Titan, Grisha is enraged and makes the choice to give Eren the power. If Carla was alive, Grisha wouldn't have given Eren the power because currently, he was against future Eren's plan. You don't need a character spell it out for you in an expository dialogue to understand that. This isn't even a theory, Grisha's attitude and voice tone completely change after Eren tells him what happened to his mom. And Grisha explicitly says "You're going to avenge her." Furthermore, yes, Eren already had the drive for freedom and violent reactions to anyone who threatened that. But it is precisely because of that fact that Eren made Dina eat Carla, so he had a reckless drive against Titans. Just look at how many things happened because of that. He being reckless got him eaten and discover his powers, allowed him to fight Annie in Stohees, to the point that she started to run away, leaving some damage to the wall, which led to the Scouts discovering Titans inside the walls, the wallist involvement, which supported Erwin and his father's conspiracy theory about the government, that recklessness made Eren hit Dina and because she was Royal Blood, discover the Founder's power within him. Do you see? Carla dying HAD to happen for Eren to reach the point of absolute power. Just like the Royal Family dying HAD to happen for the same reason.
@@danielmunoz1275 it's a dumbass paradox. He has the power to directly influence the future and he does this? It's just stupid as hell not that hard to understand like you think people are being confused by this
Eren literally thinks about the Trauma of his mother dying and then says again that he is gonna kill all of them after he has recieved the Founder during the Rumbling. BRO YOU DID IT YOURSELF 🤡🤡😂😂
at this rate, I wouldn't mind for eren going the heisenberg route, even if it would be a complete rip-off: "I did it, because I'm good at it, I was alive", wouldn't make sense given his character development, but neither does "I'm an idiot, I don't know what I'm doing, only Ymir knows", it's just that absolutely anything would've been remotely better than the actual ending we've got.
I’m so glad I found your content man. A lot of these anime content creators are a bunch of wafflers and try hards. So it’s good to see someone out here that’s just tellin it as it is. And on top of that you’re funny af too, it’s such a breath of fresh air fr fr. You’ve definitely earned a sub from me, keep up the good work brother 🙏🏼
About Eren wanting to protect Mikasa: I think there are only two times in the whole show that suggested Eren should/would/could protect Mikasa. One, is before he knew her, and rescued her from the kidnappers. And two, is when his mom told him to be a man, and that he needed to be there for Mikasa. Eren probably knew better than anyone else. Mikasa does not need protecting. He never had any mind to worry about Mikasa, and why would he? Mikasa is so skilled and strong she's practically untouchable.
@@annett_55555 Carlie was suggesting that Eren was acting the way he was to protect Mikasa in some way, even though once he knew what she was capable of, he never once thought of her safety or well being, or a feeling of protection for her.
Tbf (Idt this is the best course of action nor excuses what was written but) I think he meant protect her as in “I wanted her to hate me so when it came down to this she’d be able to move on” Protection from herself in a way Could we have had a bit more love sprinkled out? Sure Could we have had a better written Tsundere Eren if that’s what the plot twist is going to be? Sure Etc etc But all things considered I feel this is the most excusable point out of all of them, and to me one of the only ones that didn’t really matter much to (similar to Ymir’s love for Fritz, but I can see how those 2 can be a big deal for some and how they def could’ve been done better, I just tossed Ymir up to Stockholm) Still though, good premise bad execution ig
@@av_kay5059 No, I disagree. It's not that it could have just been "written better" but that what is written is contradictory to how characters should/would behave given everything we know about them. And I just think the notion of Eren trying to protect Mikasa from herself is a reach, especially because he gives her happy memories of them together a day or two later. None of it makes any fucking sense dude.
@@loayzc10 I agree on the final part but I def disagree that it wasn’t just bad execution; to me it was simply bad execution, it’s fine if we’ve never seen Eren show his feelings for Mikasa if we’re give the reason for it and it were executed better
In the scene where Eren revealed that he sent Dina to kill his mother, I think that, although it could have been avoided, that couldn't happen. Eren said, "Because it's too early for Bertholdt to die", but the truth is that it would break the order of events. Like, it's the same way that future Eren influenced his father to kill the royal family (which is the peak of the show, in my opinion). This is a type of paradox, and basically, this can only happen in a closed loop. So yeah, in other words, Eren's mother died to complete the loop to make the paradox successful. She died for the plot haha. Now, switching shows to watch, I would recommend you Undead Unluck, saint. It's being made by David Productions, another goated studios, and the anime is pretty good. It has some new interesting creative ideas that no other modern shonen has. And the plot thickens every week...
@nuke2625 You clearly did not understand what I said. If Eren didn't kill his mother, the timeline, in which future Eren influenced his father to obtain the founding titan, would change, or, in other words, future Eren wasn't going to influence his father to do it, and the loop would break
I think the issue is, there's a difference between indirect and direct control. Eren only spoke to Grisha and Grisha made the decision himself. That's indirect but not complete control of the past. Eren physically controlling the past and making a titan do something directly is bad. The titan ignoring Bertholdt doesn't even need to be in the show. It's a dumb plot point. We don't need to see him getting ignored. It's assumed beforehand that they just sneak in, and that was perfectly fine. There's no plot hole with the wall breaking that needs to be explained by Bertholdt getting ignored. All it does is butcher Eren as a character. Remove that and almost nothing about the story changes except you made Eren less absolutely shit on.
@aaronyayger Yes, you can say it was Grisha who made that choice. But he was hesitating. If it wasn't for Eren's interference, he wouldn't do it. Also, even if you did remove the scene where it shows Bertholdt getting ignored by the titan, etc, you would realise that it would still be there a plot hole, simply because his mother was killed by a titan. That fact would stay in your mind, and you'd be asking yourself again, "Why didn't Eren use the founding titan's powers to avoid his mother's death?" Edit: To put it simply, from the moment we saw his mother getting killed by a titan back in the day, it was too late to change it. Or else Isayama would have to change a great portion of the story, including the founding titan's powers.
I guess if you were armin, the rumbling wouldn't have happened in the first place cause if arlert continued using his brain, he would have come up with a better solution
@@megha_228 everyone is biased when it comes to family. Like Eren in the beginning, when ever a calamity occur, we gonna rush first to our parent or family and vice versa to check if they are ok. It our natural instinct or fear that we priorities them first because we love them.
I think Armin getting a memory was an extremely nice addition, executed like utter shit sure, but I would’ve rather Armin get one and it be done well than him not get one
Here is why I think the smiling titan needed to be the one to eat her. I believe it’s because so it can motivate him later on to fight HER SPECIFICALLY after she eats hannes. Eren specifically said HE HAS TO BE THE ONE to kill the smiling titan. And him touching her would set off the founders powers which would help them learn of the founders powers and it snowballs from there. All from making his mom get eaten. I think this is what Isayamas intention was in making smiling titan eat his mom. As for the part about beretholt being needed for later, I still don’t understand that.
If he can control her he doesn't need a motivation to fight her. He can just control her at the end of season 2 and make her touch him without the need of make her eat his mother first.
@@azmaweppayea but he wouldn’t say “it needs to be me that kills that titan.” They probably would have killed it or done something to not make the touching happen. Maybe mikasa would have helped hannes to kill instead of freeing Eren from his hands tied. Maybe hannes dies and then mikasa gets the kill right after and eren never touches her. That’s like the only thing that makes sense.
As a woman, I wholeheartedly agree with your statement about that person. I don’t like to watch reactions too much, but when I do it’s not women because nine times out of ten they’re one dimensional thinkers. She’s a typical EM “shipper” (i don’t want to assume she is, but it looks like it), so of course she would excuse anything toxic that had happened only because the ship is canon. This is the most toxic ship I’ve seen in anime in a long time. To be honest, I do love my fair share of toxic troupes like “enemies to lovers”, but this at least in those they have some sort of growth shown between the characters before they get together. EM was handfisted to us.
@ScarletBlisss isayama just has no idea how stupid of him it was to prefer em to his only logical couple (and potentially one of the best in fiction history). Common, even armin and eren had much healthier relationship than eremika. The mc even had more chemistry with mf falco than mikasa (i don't mean i ship grice and yeager)
Death of Eren's Mom motivated Grisha to Transfer the Attack Titan to his Son Eren. Otherwise, Grisha wanted to stop Eren. Carla's Death leads to Eren getting the Titan Power.
If dianas titan ate bertholt she could use her head to understand what happened and search for grisha on the hope he lived, she will understand that he was alive because he was a famous doctor and had children and she will seek out the children leading to eren and mikasa and saved erens mom, it would be reaaaaallly weird and would sacrifice old erens timeline but would truly save young erens timeline
I am anime only. And I watched AOT season 1-3 and enjoyed it. But last week started season 4. I stopped at ep7 because I hated it so far... I am contemplating whether it is worth continuing? One thing I don't get is why do people gain titan powers by eating other titans in human form? That means when Eren got eaten in S1 he should have died and lost his powers.
You’re so based for not continuing. Please save yourself and watch actually peak (AOT used to be peak before season 4, so I’m not hating just to hate). I’ll recommend you my top 3 animes which are Vinland Saga, Jojo’s, and JJK.
@@raeldri5867 Yeah I agree, some moments were hype but most of the story stopped making sense after season 4. It's good to understand where the anime went wrong.
Both men and women who don't use their brains love toxic relationships. I hate eremika, armin/annie and edward/bella or bella/jacob as they're toxic af
27:43 I don’t care about the romance stuff but Eren knew how Mikasa would behave over him and stuff, if she started worrying about him right away in season 1 and stuff. He wanted her to stay focused on herself instead of worrying about him and the situation he would be in. We see how Mikasa acted after Armin told her that Eren was dead, she started to lose the will to live and became reckless while using a ton of gas and almost ended up being killed. That’s how I see it.
This person's problem 1. He is trapped within the frame of animation and is angry like an angry chimpanzee. 2. Even if there are parts of the reaction that people think are wrong, they should be cool about it because Happiness is “the pleasure of others and I,” so we must not destroy it
46:26 I am pretty sure Zeke was supposed to be a key rather than an engine. Ymir stopped obeying royal blood once Eren gave her free will and allowed her the choice of starting the rumbling or something like that. Ima guess that Ymir gave Eren the body of the colossal titan similar to the way that Ymir built Zeke’s body when he was basically dead. Ymir also probably was able to control time within the paths or something like that so these are my guesses. Either that or the colossal titan was just what Eren’s titan had became when he didn’t have the worm thing.
@adampogadam2643 I didn't either before the ending got released. The thing is if I chose whom to get eren together with, I would prefer historia, armin or no one
Regarding the Dina plot twist: Eren could've just TAKEN AWAY RBA'S ABILITIES TO SHIFT! He could've done it when the Alliance was chasing him, but MuH fReeDuM stopped him from doing so, so if Isayama brought it up as a possibility, then it could've been done. Eren's interview showed him saying "To me, freedom is people being able to live ordinary lives without being threatened.", so JUST PREVENT THE FUCKING ATTACK ALTOGETHER! He could EASILY just "pull the plug" on every single attempt from Marley to attack the walls.
The girl is 100% a manga reader cause she immediately started defending the series with manga reader defensives and was talking about Isayama usually anime onlies don’t talk about the manga author 🥴
When Eren said he killed his mother, I personally feel it would have made more sense if he said he made Grisha and her fall in love as his reason. Other than that I will just accept the ending and personally move on, even with all of the plot holes, I love AOT so much but the fixed timeline is something that I think is a double edged sword, it’s interesting but also feels like lazy writing considering all of the head cannons that need to be made in order to fill in the plot holes. I don’t think Eren’s character was assassinated like so many people are saying, I know why people are saying why but I think his character can be interpreted in many ways.
I think the main argument on why Eren had to kill his mom or rather has to make sure that what happened in the past actually occur is to avoid the risk of the founding titan not ending up with him. If Dina ate Bertholt, there's room to say that Eren would lose to power control the titans and would have not have the power to change things in the first place, it would be a paradox. That said, there's also room for argument that he could have just eaten Dina at a later date. He could have crafted a new history where everone is safe but the show failed to show this, making Eren look like an idiot. The show could place limitations in his time altering powers, like for example, Carla dying in front of him is a fixed point in the history and can't be changed whatever he does. It could have shown Eren doing multiples things to prevent Dina from eating Carla only for fate to intervene and have her die in a different way etc..
She didn't have to eat Bertholdt... The issue isn't the events that happened, it's Eren saying that HE made them happen. Which is completely unnecessary given that the situation didn't need any further explaining. It's already believable enough that Dina would be the titan to find Eren's mom without some forced explanation. Having her walk past Bertholdt and ignore him just made the situation dumb, when Isayama could've just had Bertholdt not be there when she arrived.
I would have just said the founding titan isn't capable of manipulating past events and left it at that. let his mom's death be what it was before, a random tragedy. the only other time there is any manipulation of the past is Eren convincing Grisha but that can be explained by the mess of knowing eachother's memories. Correct me if I'm wrong but there's no other instance of the founding titan affecting things in the past right?
6:42 if he let Bert get eaten by Dina she would return back to normal and the Eldians would know about the royals and the world outside the walls by episode 2.
Yeah exactly SO WHY ADD THIS DETAIL AT ALL? IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE FOR EREN TO SPEND HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME IN PATHS ONLY CREATING A REALITY, WHERE THE CHARACTERS SUFFER FOR NO REASON. IT MAKES EREN SEEM COMPLETELY STUPID. WE DIDNT NEED THIS BS PLOTTWIST. IT ONLY MADE TVE SHOW WORSE. PLEASE TELL ME YOU UNDERSTAND
Wait...what she actually wanted??? A kiss from a woman simp (simp for no reason) and someone that was about to eliminate 90-95% (or something like that) of the entire population of the Globe?! That's sick (and not the good type of sick)...she is sick! EDIT: Someone know in the comment section how many kisses we actually see in this series anime/manga?!
What is really the reason for eren to kill his mom? I always thought it was to get the founding titan. Because we can see in memories of the future that after grisha killed all the royal family members and saw what the humanity had for the future he asked Zeke to stop Eren, as it was that horrifying. But if that's what grisha thought why would trasfer the founding titan to Eren when he reached back to the refugees camp? I think that this is what is answered here. Eren made Dina kill Carla. So when grisha returned back to eren, the kid eren only mumbled "titan ate mother". But the future eren would have trasmitted his memory of that scene to Grisha, and then grisha will know its Dina who ate Carla. This would have angered Grisha since Marley didn't only take his first wife from him but they were the reason why his first wife killed the second, when he was trying to put that all behind and lead a new life inside the walls (although he is still griefing about his first). This must have angered him and that's why he passed on titan to Eren. Even in episode 11 of season 3 he said avenga Carla knowing well of what Eren will commit with the founders power. And also said that Eren is different to Keith. But this was never mentioned in the show, while this reasoning made perfect sense to me. And this was just cancelled by the final movie where grisha still wanted to stop eren and hence helped the alliance.
I have a question, Is it true that the anime cut out Gabi telling the alliance that there was a strange entity inside of Eren? I didn’t watch the movie btw.
That take on woman was unecessary dude. Since the one who made this whole thing a love story was, fun enough, a man. So yeah, very unecessary disrespect towards carlie
27:40 this just not makes any sense😂 he was protecting her even before he touched historia hand? Before he regained all the memories? He can't fucking stand her from the very beginning, how can't ppl not notice this??
Aot story it's inspired by muvluv alternative story and muvluv alternative story made hajemi isyama to create both Manga and anime story and isyama he said that he was inspired by muvluv alternative story to create aot story but muvluv alternative released in 2003 to 2006 but in 2003 muvluv alternative have 2 different ending's time line both of the 2 different ending's are failed twice but in 2006 muvluv alternative story get a New ending sequel of the story plot twist and there are a lot of similarities between aot story and muvluv alternative story so the AOE or Akatsuki no Requiem ending it's the new sequel ending of aot story time line universe so maybe in this 2024 the ANR ending could happen or maybe we are going to wait between 2025 to 2026 until we get the ANR ending the new sequel ending of aot story
i thought saint was going to forget about aot after the ending. why is he so obsessed with what other people think? I think the anime ending is good even though I don't enjoy it but bro is still on this hate train 2 years later
i mean same but going around making these vid is a bit too much. I saw he even donated to moistcritical to get him to notice his message on twitch so he can change his mind.@@feraslaoufi9681
3:18 if Eren didn't "kill" his mother, he would have never got the power in the first place, he would have never went on to become the Founding... this is a time loop if it wasn't obvious, Eren is obsessed with "Freedom" because he is a slave to his ability to "see the future" which just makes him follow a single path where all of his friends can live long lives... In short Eren can change little to nothing till he gets his powers, aka the moment Zeke catches his head, everything before that is written in stone, that is why he can't change things... you might call it a copout, but this is what comes with time travel stories... Eren only really becomes free when he dies, just like Zeke said when he talked with Armin... I have yet to find a valid argument against the ending that was chosen(I don't think it was amazing, but if you think the logic is seriously flawed you probably just didn't pay attention, I have problem with the way it was presented, but videos like this prove that not only there was not too much explanation, for most there was too little, I would have preferred if things stay more ambiguous). The only thing that is actually wonky is the reason for why exactly Ymir needed a proof or example from Mikasa, which is the only thing that is deliberately not answered in the show...... btw my running theory on Ymir needing Mikasa isn't even about Mikasa or love, it's about being "human" and willing to fight "evil" even if their actions benefits you(aka would people revolt against their dictator if they were winning), but that's just head-canon and maybe Iseyama wanted a more f-ed up "romantic" ending therefore went with Mikasa's love+murder being the key...
Of course he would of gotten it😂😂 he’s the founding titan he can do anything he wants😂😂😂 he can remove the titans powers from Freda, Reiner ,Annie let Dina eat berthold then send all the mindless titans back to the ocean to drown themselves then start the rumbling 😂
@@aotgoat3267 Did you even read what I wrote? The moment he changes something from before he was murdered by Gabi he changed the past and is no longer able to change anything thus whatever he did was erased... Eren had 4 choices: 1- roll over and let everybody he knows die by the hand of the alliance(he could do this at any point), 2- do 100%, erase the titan powers then watch as new eldia eats itself alive as Jaegersists fight the Crown and endanger his friends with a civil war 3-Do 80%, and give Paradis 100-200 years of peace until the world becomes ready to annihilate it... he chose the 3rd option because that is the only one where his friends live... there is a 4th option, doing 100% then, erasing all other titan powers then staying a god, basically enslaving all Eldians under his rule, until somebody murders him in his sleep...
Well if you have founders power thats nean you can do anything 😂 but eren yeager no i wanted to flatten them 😂the fok man you had tye power to save your mom every single comrade but you choosed lets flatten the world and before dying a little bit of simping for mickasa the fok man 😂
@@Thundeclap well he could have give command to all pure titans to kill each others 😂 and transform all the eldians beyond walls into wall titans and rumble the world thise one is so easy 😂
@@orenonawasteevie2068 ymir is slave?yes for a royal blood,but for eren?nah even in anime it stated that the one who control past titan shifter is ymir
16:30 But they also rushed Isayama, you complain about the ending but don’t complain about Isayama not being given enough time? I know 2 years or more seems like a lot but something else that is a lot is the massive lore Isayama made within AOT. I blame Isayama’s editor and Mappa for all of the plot holes and I am someone who was fine with the ending and Eren being a pathetic character(I thought he would want to do 100% rumbling but I also expected him to die so oh well), I still blame Isayama being rushed for the unanswered plot holes. He is a brilliant writer if he is given enough time, but in this case he just wasn’t in my opinion, the reason Mappa cooked because of the amount of time it took to produce the ending, the voice actors voice acting, musicians slaying, and all of that which lead to Isayama being rushed in my opinion, because once the ending was rushed it was *destined*to still have plot holes because of the time and effort the poor animators take into crafting the animation.
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Props to the dude here that kept his brain On and critic the ending with logical sense.
Let Him cook
ange and carlie are often smarter than your average reactor
@@aligmal5031the women doesn't seem to be :)) but sure ....
@@ssppooppcristi6734 she is actually smart af when it comes to predictions she was just being a Wahmen who love romance in this reaction XD but even she didn't buy all of this BS
@@ssppooppcristi6734 this reactor are really good and they loved eren from the very begining and understand the story so welly but in the end isamiya just dropped some bullshit thats why they cannt take it!
who are defending this bullshit of writer they just removed there common sense while watching it or they are just happy that writer ruin eren remove eren character development motivation agency and freewill and make him pathetic in just one chapter! they actually didnt give a shit as there other side character got happy happy ending!
I Think Ange/Carlie did not notice as much errors because they had forgotten part of the story already from how long it took for the ending to be animated.
Ange's reaction was so genuine. You could tell he was a true fan.
Literally one of the best reactors. He calls out the bull shit when he sees it. I knew saint was gonna like him.
@@Vortex_ICEcold saint conviniently cut out the parts where ange said that he still gives the finale a high rating and considers the finale to be good in general despite having some issues with it.
@@sa2520 eh thats still valid
at least it isn't a delusional _"11/10 flawless masterpiece of the century!!!!"_
Key word "WAS"
This person's problem 1. He is trapped within the frame of animation and is angry like an angry chimpanzee.
2. Even if there are parts of the reaction that people think are wrong, they should be cool about it because
Happiness is “the pleasure of others and I,” so we must not destroy it
Ange ripped that ending apart just with basic logic.
good to see that there are still reactors who dont watch blindly.
But he still liked the ending even if he had some problems with it.
@@udithsethu552 i mean lets be honest, its hard to admit that its trash because the rest of attack on titan was so great and its hard to let go.
give him some time he will let go.
They both liked the ending, but they had some criticism, which is normal
@@Valkyraw and because the animation sound music voice acting is all dust on the garb0 writing which is what we lacked in the manga and we only had the garb0 writing
@@ValkyrawVery true. It's hard to even fathom that chapters 130 and 131 are written by the same guy who wrote 139 lmao. I don't think I've ever seen such a massive gulf in quality of writing in a single series, much less within 8 chapters.
Isayama had lost it. If Eren is such a sentimental man that he sacrifice Paradise for his friends, he would definitely 100% save his mum. If Eren is a cold calculated person that would sacrifice his mum, he would 100% chose Paradise over his friends.
Something doesn't tie up here
only ymir man, only ymir.
Dr strange simulate billion possible outcome in an hour and found one good outcome to save the world
Eren simulate all possible future in a lifetime but couldn't find one to end the hatred and save paradi
Yeah... Good writing
This
Remember when kruger said that regardless of the time period, the attack titan marches in the vanguard for the sake of freedom. Why do you think that was? Yea that was because Eren was the final successor controlling every predecessor. We’ve been bamboozled all along guys. Now we know the attack titan marches in the vanguard because it’s an “ordinary idiot” that got its hands on power. Bravo! Great writing 👏🏻 🤣🤦🏻!
I didn’t like Eren being sentimental as well, but your logic is extreme bro
The guy in the white shirt is based... he knows what he's talking about..he's got common sense and is asking the right questions and is saying the right things.. i wish more people did this and not just take Isayama's "Random Bullshit Goes Brrrrr" to their face but oh well someday when they snap out of their dream world they just might catch on to it..
I heard someone explain because music,animation,and scene dressing was so good you don’t notice how bad the ending is from a writing prospective.
Eren could've saved his mom and given Eldia a titan with royal blood, while his father collected the founding titan. by episode 3 we'd be in the best position we've seen in the entire series... and we'd have Erwin... Eldia would be saved
why didnt he do that? only ymir knows...
Imagine being incapable of letting your friends go but you had the stomach to let your f'ing mother die
I think he couldn't do anything about that in the universe of aot it is implied that everything is predetermined, Eren died the moment he touched Historia after that he is just Ymir puppet
@@d.dr.v42one thing should be known about fate, like a wise man once said: fate only binds you if you let it
But yams was like: nah nah, this one ain't getting away from the hands of fate no matter what
First: Eren can't change anything from before he is beheaded by Gabi and gets the Founding from Zeke, the moment he changes something he becomes incapable of making a change reverting everything(probably this is what Eren(+Owl) mean by saying that he tried alternatives and everything just repeats). Second: Eldia can't be saved, that is the whole point of the show... the only reason Eren was able to give 100-200 years of peace to them is because the outside was reduced to ashes and the inside was afraid of revenge making them concentrate on arming themselves instead of infighting. Even if he did 100% that would have only led to a civil war within Paradis that would have eventually led to his and the scouts end... the whole point of the story is that conflict is "human nature" and a single person is perfectly incapable of changing that... that is why Armin accepts Erens choice in the dream, he knows Eren didn't really have a choice that doesn't include genocide
This guy is gonna travel to Japan, hunt down Isayama and pressure him into making a better Attack on Titan ending.
Shit on the onsen
You're in his comment section.
Nigga you already said this in the other video
Eren & Mikasa ruined AOE
Hey, all of you, get off his d@#$
There's no reason to focus on the specific Bertholdt Carla situation. Eren could apparently control all titans ever. It makes no more sense for the story to have happened in the first place.
@@CombatUnit621 Time travel confuses Isayama too. Chapter 121+122 was great, but as soon as I read it, I knew there was going to be some plot issues somewhere. Time travel always leads to issues in storytelling.
He was a slave to Ymir's liberation. He knew so many things. Anything else he would have done would have led to a scenario where Ymir isn't freed and the curse remains.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928good think re zero and steins gate nail time travel
@@fs400iondid you even watch the video???
"It had to happen this way (despite it making no sense) trust me bro" @@fs400ion
39:17 hhahahaha. bro didnt even hesitate. this guy spitting nothing but *FACTS* throughout the video. holy moly
He was a slave to Ymir's liberation.
@@fs400ionthats a thing only in 139, it was never the case before.
@@parisrealick He was obsessed with freedom since the beginning, literally since chapter one. In 139 we only learn the final twist that Ymir was a slave to love and that her liberation needed a unique and specific scenario. Therefore, as a slave to freedom, Eren couldnt ignore this situation thus he had to free Ymir.
@fs400ion "Her liberation needed a unique and specific scenario" is literally like you're saying, "we don't know wtf she wanted bcs it had to be unique and specific." Eren himself didn't know why tf Ymir even chose Mikasa he even said, "Only Ymir knows." So no, not even Eren knew why bcs in the end it all was determinism. If Eren could've gone a different route, anything just ANYTHING from the moment his mom "needed" to be eaten, things would've been different. Although Eren himself said he was an idiot so ig it was a lost cause from the start, which literally destroyed his "I was born into this world."
@@Rox7ne But we Do know why Mikasa freed Ymir. It's because of how Mikasa was able to do what Ymir couldnt when she was alive. Also Eren's case is really complex. On one hand he was a slave to the future he saw but also the reason this future happened is because he purposly decided to go along with it.
Just found your content about why chapter 139 is objectively god awful and brother, you articulate a good understanding about why this story ended so disappointingly with a lot of people. It's not the popular opinion but definitely one filled with a good understanding of writing with logic and consistency. Mad respect to you.
Yeah as an aot fan I completely agree aot ending was mid but after aot's last episode aired, everyone thinks aot ending is perfect
It's like they know the ending was trash but didn't really wanna say it
Or they have common sense and don't dismiss the whole story and cry about it for years just because they dislike 2 things about it
@@crayyx "2 things"
@@azmaweppa yes
@@crayyx Basic math is just too much for the ending defenders. As a reward...
@@crayyx the ending is OBJECTIVELY bad, eremika is OBJECTIVELY bad, and the partial rumbling is OBJECTIVELY bad 😭 the whole story was great, and then yams created the biggest piece of dogshit ive ever seen
LET HIM COOK LMAO
Very likeable reactor
Honestly Iseyama could’ve easily just said that Eren couldn’t completely control Dina because she was a Titan of royal blood.
Zeke literally rebels against Eren to help the alliance so it wouldn’t even be breaking lore.
If killing her was a unforeseen consequence then it wouldve been well written and very shocking. The fact that he purposely did it quite literally assassinates his core personality. Why would eren ponder on what his mother would think of the rumbling, then when the rumbling starts, he purposely kills her, no hesitation. He doesn’t even try to reject that future, he just willingly follows it.
Isayama literally just had to not write anything about Dina. It was believable that she would be the titan to find Carla crushed under rubble, especially with Eren and co screaming and making so much noise. Having Eren be the one who sent her was just dumb and unnecessary in every way.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928Shut up! Determinism!
@@MrRisk1111Because it already happened and it has to happen. Eren guiding Dina to Karla is under the same logic of Eren manipulating Grisho into killing the Royal Family, except for Rod Reiss.
In order for the sequence of events to occur and reach that point in which Eren is able to use the Founder's power, Eren must use said powers to ensure he gets them. Doing anything else causes a paradox. He has all the power in the world, but that power is what it KEEPS HIM TRAPED too.
2+2 is 4 guys. Connect the dots. Think about it, if Karla didn't die Eren wouldn't have had his hateful drive. He already had motivation for freedom and was planning to join the military, but his hate wasn't there until Karla was eaten. Furthermore, Eren did not send memories of Karla's fate to Grisha and Grisha himself asks why is Eren not showing him? Well, basically because Grisha learns about Karla when he talks to Eren in the refugees camp. Eren wanted Grisha to learn about her death by the words of little Eren so he would get his hate back and make the decision to give Eren the Founder. So you see, Karla had to die both to motivate Eren, and to guarantee that Grisha would give the power to him.
Another question left: why Dina specifically? Why not another random Titan? To that there's TWO reasons. Bertholdt had to stay alive, The Colossal's power proved to be useful in the assault to Liberio, and the capture of the Marleyan Scouting ships. Also, if Bertholdt died, the Warriors plan would've drastically change, or they would've left. Like it or not it was thanks to the Warriors that the Scouts learned a lot about the Titan Powers and that led to them being able to overthrow the government, take back Shingansina, learn the truth of the world, and reach the sea. The second reason is the fact that Eren got a personal vendetta against Dina's Titan specifically. It's thanks to that fact, that Eren touches her in S2 and uncovers some of the Founder' Powers. Also, again, if the Warriors weren't there to capture Eren and have the chase in S2, Eren wouldn't have made contact with Dina.
Guys I literally don't see the problem here. Previous to this revelation Dina ignoring Bert and coincidentally eating Karla were plot conveniences. Now they make sense, as it is Eren's doing to ensure him getting the Founder's full power.
@@danielmunoz1275 first 4 lines is already a headcanon. Not reading this.
I can agree, it does have to happen. But stating that it already happened as if its a predetermined path is a headcanon.
Problem is, theres no way eren couldn’t have think of any other choice other than killing his mother. Its shock value and contradicts many things in his character for the fact that he would even think that way.
its interesting viewing these videos cuz after the anime finale episode, its one of the few places of the internet where almost the entire comment section is still filled with people who hated the ending
Ange is the most based reactor I've seen
I still hate the fact that Isayama thought the whole Ymir loving the King was a good idea… everything else is either ok or bad but that one is the worst written “plot twists” I’ve seen yet
What about the farmer x historia 😂
What about mikasa kissing Eren's head? Or the alliance thanking eren for the rumbling? @maleexile9053
He didn't. He's a great mangaka. He just wanted to destroy the whole story because the editors rejected his ending for fanservice reasons and pressured him. He succeeded in doing it with just 2 chapters. It takes great talent even to mess up the story in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. in such a short time.
@@annett_55555 good point all trash
@@Blu3Moon_III yes exactly!!
Ange is Based asf
Ymir logic
Directly rebelling against the will of the king by siding with eren against a member of the royal family -> not free from the king's influence
-Watching a woman kill the guy she loves -> completely free after 2000 years
Wut
ONLY DETERMINISM KNOWS
Remember when kruger said that regardless of the time period, the attack titan marches in the vanguard for the sake of freedom. Why do you think that was? Yea that was because Eren was the final successor controlling every predecessor. We’ve been bamboozled all along guys. Now we know the attack titan marches in the vanguard because it’s an “ordinary idiot” that got its hands on power. Bravo! Great writing 👏🏻 🤣🤦🏻!
Are you even payingvattention😂he say hes idiot because he cant chose other choice then a rumbling for a sake of his desire of freedom
Blud doesnt have iq to understand such a simple dialogues😂
@@Thundeclap no he never explained why he was an idiot. He simply said that wanted to do it lol. The right line is “because I was born into this world.” Not “cuz I’m idiot lol *mwah armin*”
@@Vortex_ICEcold are you even watching the anime?you clearly missed eren armin talk
@@Thundeclap all he said was he’s an idiot that got power. What part do you not understand? He’s saying power got to his head 🤣. You didn’t understand the story. Also he’s not an idiot because like you said that was his only choice. HOW does that make him an idiot? An idiot wouldn’t have done anything. Terrible story.
Why Eren's mother died you say, huh?! It's too easy.. cause Eren wanted Annie, Annie's father, Reiner, Reiner's mother, pieck and pieck's to live, not his mother😂
Don’t remind me. I vomited in my mouth. Just imagine how fucking awesome it would have been if PIECK died IMMEDIATELY when the war hammer shoved the spear up her ass at the start? That would’ve been so good by the writer to show how fast you can drop like a fly when facing the founder. The final motherfucking boss. But ofcourse Eren has to let her live because plot lol.
Its simple mooroon its because he needs to make younger version of him have desire to fight😂
@@Thundeclap04:14😂
Bertholdt-dina twist is just terrible
It was unnecessary af: dina should have eaten carla just because she happened to be there and berth just hid in time as we thought pre-time skip. It wouldn't have been a plot hole either as it needed no explanation. Until post-time skip there was no mystery about it, this subplot ALREADY had payoff
But isayama decided (um, why?) to ruin it by adding that panel with berth first and then revealing everything at the last moment when it didn't even matter anymore as it had little time to be explained and to make us feel at least some kind of emotion
And now, after such a stupid moment for the shock value, we have dozens of plotholes as eren turns out to be someone who could have:
- saved so many people: his family, comrades, friends etc.
- solved so many issues in this story by coming up with much easier plans,
- predicted the future and actions of everyone,
- let dina eat bertold, led grisha to her after taking the founder away and made him touch his ex-wife to start the rumbling, for instance,
- finished everything much sooner, even before being born,
- used the ability to control titans through time and space multiple times and so on
But no, "I'm gonna use it only once, to kill the person I love the most in this world and ruin my entire motivation, let dina avoid bertholdt, my enemy, IN PAST, even though it could help the island a lot, blame reiner for my mother's death and also ask myself what my mom would think about the rumbling while being the reason why she can't say anything now. However, I can't make my colossal titans leave hange, my friend, alone in PRESENT because this story should have more drama. Also, I'm somehow able to sacrifice my mom and the entire family but not my friends"
Brilliant!
The fact that this has so many likes its unbelievably funny the fact that everything u said is wrong is unbelievably funny
@@Johan590 how? Why?
@@annett_55555 I would rather not go through every point because I don't really care that much but you do know eren can't change the past right that's the first thing I want to say the second thing I want to say is eren didn't know he influenced his mom when he talked to reiner he did when he gained the founding powers that's all I would rather not go through all ur points since it's full of biased hate lol
@@Johan590 Eren still could have come up with much better solutions but he decided to do THIS
And him killing carla as I said was unneeded. It added nothing but inconsistencies
@@annett_55555 didn't u hear when eren said I tried other methods but this was the best one did u even pay attention the fact that people like ur comments show how stupid this Fandom is
He need sto keep doing this for atleast 10 years
28:06 This was the best part LMAO
Thank you!!!! Took the words out of my mouth
The misogyny was your favorite part???
@@keno4770So it’s clear you’ve never had a girlfriend.
@@keno4770 You're an incel
@@keno4770 the stats would agree with saint though, it's not like he's saying something out of thin air
My reaction to the anime ending was out of this world but I’m manga only 😂
i love how were all on the same page for the most part by the end of this reaction lol
They were not. Saint cut out all the good things they said about the finale and conviniently left in the criticism section. Ange literally says that in general, he liked the ending and give it a high rating although he had some issues with it.
Anyone who loves the ending does not know anything about common sense and plot. These the type of people to watch Avengers Endgame and say it’s a masterpiece 10/10. It doesn’t make sense. But these people are too lazy to research why the ending is terrible and out 2 and 2 together. These people are just happy with the ending just because it was cool.
And emotional, don't forget emotional 😉
Because just like AOT fans , they’re already emotionally invested. Once they sat there and watched their movie/show for 10+ years their brains turn off and love the fan service and don’t care if it makes sense or not
but Endgame is a masterpiece
Yea I agree. Endgame was such a terrible movie.
@@Cypress_animation filled with a bunch of plot holes the stakes got so low especially since they got the pym particles. So what happens when couples that moved on from their relationship after 5 years then they come back after the snap? They Made Thor look like a joke. Ruined Hulk after that ass whopping in Infinity War. They do a whole funeral for Tony Stark but what about Black Widow?
Am I understanding this right? Eren could control the actions of all titans including the lesser titans, and could remove powers at any time. And he actually had this power restrospectively and chose all titans to act exactly as they did. And he chose things to play out like that because it brought about ultimate goal which was the destroy 80% of humanity and be killed by armin and mikasa so that they would be seen as hero’s. And he wants them to be seen as heroes so the remaining 20% of humanity will not hate them or paradis, instead they will love paradis because Armin and mikasa ended the rumbling. If that’s the plot then yes, it dosent make sense as to why eren chose it all to happen. He could have :
A. Removed all titan powers held by anyone except paradis.
B. Caused titan shifters and lesser titans to turn around and go harm Marley from the start - a lesser rumbling.
C. Gone further back in time and prevented the outside world from advancing in the first place.
D. Caused the rumbling to begin years and years ago .
Why did eren specifically want a fraction of the outside world to survive? Why not just have them all killed? Then this ‘being seen as hero’s’ wouldn’t matter
Another plot hole in this story is when Freida Reiss fights Grisha, she could've easily erased his memories but never does. She just forgets she has unbeatable powers😂
She was inexperienced and couldn't use the full power.
She could have beaten him but Freida is not a fighter in any respect.
Grisha is a knife, Frieda is a gun. One is much more powerful and better than the other. But that doesn't matter if you've never really shot your gun before.
@ryancroy bro she had the power to erase minds. She didn't use it cause bad writing. She used it countless times on historia but when it came to use it for shit that mattered, she didn't do shit with it
@@robertkelly4820 Like I said, her battle IQ was horrid. As explained.
@@ryancroy bro. That's not battle iq. That's being fucking retarded. Like 9 iq points. The writing is shit and that's a plot hole
@@ryancroy that's like a wizard forgetting to use his magic spells in battle. Gotta be the dumbest fucking shit ever. Imagine having an instant "I fucking win trump card" and forgetting it exists. Beyond retarded writing
Bro was like? Hmm sometimes maybe shit sometimes maybe good
Wait, something to consider about the segment regarding Eren killing Carla:
Eren gave Dina a 2 part command:
1. Go somewhere else
2. Eat this other person instead
If he had the power to do that, he could've just as easily given her only the first half of that command:
1. Go somewhere else.
He didn't have to kill Carla whatsoever
But this implies that the only way he could've been motivated to do everything leading to the rumbling would be for Carla to be killed, which we obviously know isn't the case, from episode 1 season 1
But then according to 139's logic, this makes it seem like this whole timeloop/cycle/paradox/whatever starts with Carla being killed WITHOUT Eren's interference
So what the fuck is the point of this paradox??? Literally fucking nothing
You're missing some facts.
Carla's death was necessary to assure Eren gets the Founding Titan.
Grisha clearly asks Zeke to stop Eren before he meets kid Eren and after he kills the Royal Family. Remember that Grisha asks Eren why he doesn't show what happened to Carla?
When kid Eren tells Grisha that Carla was eaten by a Titan, Grisha is enraged and makes the choice to give Eren the power.
If Carla was alive, Grisha wouldn't have given Eren the power because currently, he was against future Eren's plan.
You don't need a character spell it out for you in an expository dialogue to understand that. This isn't even a theory, Grisha's attitude and voice tone completely change after Eren tells him what happened to his mom. And Grisha explicitly says "You're going to avenge her."
Furthermore, yes, Eren already had the drive for freedom and violent reactions to anyone who threatened that.
But it is precisely because of that fact that Eren made Dina eat Carla, so he had a reckless drive against Titans.
Just look at how many things happened because of that. He being reckless got him eaten and discover his powers, allowed him to fight Annie in Stohees, to the point that she started to run away, leaving some damage to the wall, which led to the Scouts discovering Titans inside the walls, the wallist involvement, which supported Erwin and his father's conspiracy theory about the government, that recklessness made Eren hit Dina and because she was Royal Blood, discover the Founder's power within him.
Do you see? Carla dying HAD to happen for Eren to reach the point of absolute power. Just like the Royal Family dying HAD to happen for the same reason.
@@danielmunoz1275 it's a dumbass paradox. He has the power to directly influence the future and he does this? It's just stupid as hell not that hard to understand like you think people are being confused by this
139 ruined one of the most powerful scenes in AOT.
This series would've been fun to rewatch if not for the ending. Same with GoT.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Yeah early AOT was great, then this ending ruins episode 1 when Eren's mother dies.
Eren literally thinks about the Trauma of his mother dying and then says again that he is gonna kill all of them after he has recieved the Founder during the Rumbling. BRO YOU DID IT YOURSELF 🤡🤡😂😂
at this rate, I wouldn't mind for eren going the heisenberg route, even if it would be a complete rip-off: "I did it, because I'm good at it, I was alive", wouldn't make sense given his character development, but neither does "I'm an idiot, I don't know what I'm doing, only Ymir knows", it's just that absolutely anything would've been remotely better than the actual ending we've got.
The only bad parts its just ymir the ending its alright dummbaass
I’m so glad I found your content man. A lot of these anime content creators are a bunch of wafflers and try hards. So it’s good to see someone out here that’s just tellin it as it is. And on top of that you’re funny af too, it’s such a breath of fresh air fr fr. You’ve definitely earned a sub from me, keep up the good work brother 🙏🏼
Exactly that’s why I fw chief too he isn’t a dxcksucker for views like the rest
About Eren wanting to protect Mikasa: I think there are only two times in the whole show that suggested Eren should/would/could protect Mikasa. One, is before he knew her, and rescued her from the kidnappers. And two, is when his mom told him to be a man, and that he needed to be there for Mikasa.
Eren probably knew better than anyone else. Mikasa does not need protecting. He never had any mind to worry about Mikasa, and why would he? Mikasa is so skilled and strong she's practically untouchable.
What were you driving at?
@@annett_55555 Carlie was suggesting that Eren was acting the way he was to protect Mikasa in some way, even though once he knew what she was capable of, he never once thought of her safety or well being, or a feeling of protection for her.
Tbf (Idt this is the best course of action nor excuses what was written but) I think he meant protect her as in “I wanted her to hate me so when it came down to this she’d be able to move on”
Protection from herself in a way
Could we have had a bit more love sprinkled out? Sure
Could we have had a better written Tsundere Eren if that’s what the plot twist is going to be? Sure
Etc etc
But all things considered I feel this is the most excusable point out of all of them, and to me one of the only ones that didn’t really matter much to (similar to Ymir’s love for Fritz, but I can see how those 2 can be a big deal for some and how they def could’ve been done better, I just tossed Ymir up to Stockholm)
Still though, good premise bad execution ig
@@av_kay5059 No, I disagree. It's not that it could have just been "written better" but that what is written is contradictory to how characters should/would behave given everything we know about them. And I just think the notion of Eren trying to protect Mikasa from herself is a reach, especially because he gives her happy memories of them together a day or two later. None of it makes any fucking sense dude.
@@loayzc10 I agree on the final part but I def disagree that it wasn’t just bad execution; to me it was simply bad execution, it’s fine if we’ve never seen Eren show his feelings for Mikasa if we’re give the reason for it and it were executed better
I’m sure 90% of kids that plays roblox could save they moms if they got all them powers Eren had
I'm OK with him having to kill his own mom. But the reasoning of him having to do it makes no sense. Determinism shut up.
Ever heard of the Bootstrap paradox?
How does the reasoning not make any sense?
@@minerva566yep, its stupid
@@music79075 because he’s okay with killing his mom but not his friends?
@@minerva566what about it
Mr. Saint, im waiting for that final aot video
It's not coming out, he is scared of making videos and streaming now after he got doxxed and swatted
@@amenz27LOL
@@amenz27when the hell did this happen
@@grelkie like a month ago
@@amenz27 Aot fans when someone criticizes their “flawless story”:
In the scene where Eren revealed that he sent Dina to kill his mother, I think that, although it could have been avoided, that couldn't happen.
Eren said, "Because it's too early for Bertholdt to die", but the truth is that it would break the order of events. Like, it's the same way that future Eren influenced his father to kill the royal family (which is the peak of the show, in my opinion). This is a type of paradox, and basically, this can only happen in a closed loop.
So yeah, in other words, Eren's mother died to complete the loop to make the paradox successful. She died for the plot haha.
Now, switching shows to watch, I would recommend you Undead Unluck, saint. It's being made by David Productions, another goated studios, and the anime is pretty good. It has some new interesting creative ideas that no other modern shonen has. And the plot thickens every week...
She died for shock value.. it only affected the plot. But yeah undead unluck is alot of fun:)
change the order of events? tf you talking about. all eren did through half of the show is change/influence things with the founders power.
@nuke2625 You clearly did not understand what I said.
If Eren didn't kill his mother, the timeline, in which future Eren influenced his father to obtain the founding titan, would change, or, in other words, future Eren wasn't going to influence his father to do it, and the loop would break
I think the issue is, there's a difference between indirect and direct control. Eren only spoke to Grisha and Grisha made the decision himself. That's indirect but not complete control of the past. Eren physically controlling the past and making a titan do something directly is bad. The titan ignoring Bertholdt doesn't even need to be in the show. It's a dumb plot point. We don't need to see him getting ignored. It's assumed beforehand that they just sneak in, and that was perfectly fine. There's no plot hole with the wall breaking that needs to be explained by Bertholdt getting ignored. All it does is butcher Eren as a character. Remove that and almost nothing about the story changes except you made Eren less absolutely shit on.
@aaronyayger Yes, you can say it was Grisha who made that choice. But he was hesitating. If it wasn't for Eren's interference, he wouldn't do it.
Also, even if you did remove the scene where it shows Bertholdt getting ignored by the titan, etc, you would realise that it would still be there a plot hole, simply because his mother was killed by a titan. That fact would stay in your mind, and you'd be asking yourself again, "Why didn't Eren use the founding titan's powers to avoid his mother's death?"
Edit: To put it simply, from the moment we saw his mother getting killed by a titan back in the day, it was too late to change it. Or else Isayama would have to change a great portion of the story, including the founding titan's powers.
These guys Charlie and Ange are one of my favorite reactors
If I was armin
Eren: I slaughter 80% of humanity
Me: *get mad*
Eren: I sent a titan toward my mom
Me: * beats eren to a pulp*
Then you are based 👏
I guess if you were armin, the rumbling wouldn't have happened in the first place cause if arlert continued using his brain, he would have come up with a better solution
@@annett_55555 well....arlett stop using his brain after season 3. Apparently all the thinking was done by Eren after that ....... Good writing 😂😂😂
@@megha_228 everyone is biased when it comes to family. Like Eren in the beginning, when ever a calamity occur, we gonna rush first to our parent or family and vice versa to check if they are ok. It our natural instinct or fear that we priorities them first because we love them.
I think Armin getting a memory was an extremely nice addition, executed like utter shit sure, but I would’ve rather Armin get one and it be done well than him not get one
Here is why I think the smiling titan needed to be the one to eat her. I believe it’s because so it can motivate him later on to fight HER SPECIFICALLY after she eats hannes. Eren specifically said HE HAS TO BE THE ONE to kill the smiling titan. And him touching her would set off the founders powers which would help them learn of the founders powers and it snowballs from there. All from making his mom get eaten. I think this is what Isayamas intention was in making smiling titan eat his mom. As for the part about beretholt being needed for later, I still don’t understand that.
If he can control her he doesn't need a motivation to fight her. He can just control her at the end of season 2 and make her touch him without the need of make her eat his mother first.
@@azmaweppayea but he wouldn’t say “it needs to be me that kills that titan.” They probably would have killed it or done something to not make the touching happen. Maybe mikasa would have helped hannes to kill instead of freeing Eren from his hands tied. Maybe hannes dies and then mikasa gets the kill right after and eren never touches her. That’s like the only thing that makes sense.
As a woman, I wholeheartedly agree with your statement about that person. I don’t like to watch reactions too much, but when I do it’s not women because nine times out of ten they’re one dimensional thinkers.
She’s a typical EM “shipper” (i don’t want to assume she is, but it looks like it), so of course she would excuse anything toxic that had happened only because the ship is canon. This is the most toxic ship I’ve seen in anime in a long time.
To be honest, I do love my fair share of toxic troupes like “enemies to lovers”, but this at least in those they have some sort of growth shown between the characters before they get together.
EM was handfisted to us.
Or.. Y'all just delusional
@@realtvgirl You and everyone else who think that they had romantic feelings for each other throughout the entire story is just as delusional.
Same sis. I despise twilight and em. They're toxic and have terrible messages to their audiences
@@annett_55555 Literally!! It’s so frustrating that people think either ships are genuinely good.
@ScarletBlisss isayama just has no idea how stupid of him it was to prefer em to his only logical couple (and potentially one of the best in fiction history). Common, even armin and eren had much healthier relationship than eremika. The mc even had more chemistry with mf falco than mikasa (i don't mean i ship grice and yeager)
Death of Eren's Mom motivated Grisha to Transfer the Attack Titan to his Son Eren. Otherwise, Grisha wanted to stop Eren.
Carla's Death leads to Eren getting the Titan Power.
If dianas titan ate bertholt she could use her head to understand what happened and search for grisha on the hope he lived, she will understand that he was alive because he was a famous doctor and had children and she will seek out the children leading to eren and mikasa and saved erens mom, it would be reaaaaallly weird and would sacrifice old erens timeline but would truly save young erens timeline
That's just headcanon, quit making excuses Eren didn't even provide for the ending.
I am anime only. And I watched AOT season 1-3 and enjoyed it. But last week started season 4. I stopped at ep7 because I hated it so far... I am contemplating whether it is worth continuing?
One thing I don't get is why do people gain titan powers by eating other titans in human form? That means when Eren got eaten in S1 he should have died and lost his powers.
I strongly advise you to stop where you are. Go watch deathnote or something
You’re so based for not continuing. Please save yourself and watch actually peak (AOT used to be peak before season 4, so I’m not hating just to hate).
I’ll recommend you my top 3 animes which are Vinland Saga, Jojo’s, and JJK.
Hear the warnings but I would recommend keep going just so you can understand the frustration
@@raeldri5867 Setting bro up for failure😭
@@raeldri5867 Yeah I agree, some moments were hype but most of the story stopped making sense after season 4. It's good to understand where the anime went wrong.
@Saintitchief is living rent free in Isayama's head 😂
i already know that if the yeagerist see the alliance it is on sight
28:07 Please I'm a girl and I HATE this nonsense!
Both men and women who don't use their brains love toxic relationships. I hate eremika, armin/annie and edward/bella or bella/jacob as they're toxic af
Gigguk just dropped a new video. The replies are hilarious
Shillguk*
27:43 I don’t care about the romance stuff but Eren knew how Mikasa would behave over him and stuff, if she started worrying about him right away in season 1 and stuff.
He wanted her to stay focused on herself instead of worrying about him and the situation he would be in.
We see how Mikasa acted after Armin told her that Eren was dead, she started to lose the will to live and became reckless while using a ton of gas and almost ended up being killed.
That’s how I see it.
This person's problem 1. He is trapped within the frame of animation and is angry like an angry chimpanzee. 2. Even if there are parts of the reaction that people think are wrong, they should be cool about it because Happiness is “the pleasure of others and I,” so we must not destroy it
“Mmmhhh dead boys cants say no”
Alr, we get it bro
46:26 I am pretty sure Zeke was supposed to be a key rather than an engine.
Ymir stopped obeying royal blood once Eren gave her free will and allowed her the choice of starting the rumbling or something like that.
Ima guess that Ymir gave Eren the body of the colossal titan similar to the way that Ymir built Zeke’s body when he was basically dead.
Ymir also probably was able to control time within the paths or something like that so these are my guesses.
Either that or the colossal titan was just what Eren’s titan had became when he didn’t have the worm thing.
Toxic romance for edgy girls, thats aot now 😢😂
@user-mr9ew5wc9j Potato
You're not wrong. If you say anything about Eren x Historia, you will be attacked by the hivemind 😂
@@thelegacyofgaming2928I personally never cared for any ship's in aot 😢
@adampogadam2643 I didn't either before the ending got released. The thing is if I chose whom to get eren together with, I would prefer historia, armin or no one
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 erehisu makes more sense
I wish the real story was just a nightmare and your take on Dina becoming the Eldian's ally and everybody being saved was reality, hahaha.
carly and ange are great.
Regarding the Dina plot twist: Eren could've just TAKEN AWAY RBA'S ABILITIES TO SHIFT! He could've done it when the Alliance was chasing him, but MuH fReeDuM stopped him from doing so, so if Isayama brought it up as a possibility, then it could've been done.
Eren's interview showed him saying "To me, freedom is people being able to live ordinary lives without being threatened.", so JUST PREVENT THE FUCKING ATTACK ALTOGETHER! He could EASILY just "pull the plug" on every single attempt from Marley to attack the walls.
The girl is 100% a manga reader cause she immediately started defending the series with manga reader defensives and was talking about Isayama usually anime onlies don’t talk about the manga author 🥴
Are we getting your own reaction to the episode any time soon
44:45 “turns out you didn’t kill my mom, reiner”
why didn't bro just have dina pick up the rubble and carry carla to safety?
When Eren said he killed his mother, I personally feel it would have made more sense if he said he made Grisha and her fall in love as his reason.
Other than that I will just accept the ending and personally move on, even with all of the plot holes, I love AOT so much but the fixed timeline is something that I think is a double edged sword, it’s interesting but also feels like lazy writing considering all of the head cannons that need to be made in order to fill in the plot holes.
I don’t think Eren’s character was assassinated like so many people are saying, I know why people are saying why but I think his character can be interpreted in many ways.
What did Eren say to Reiner?
"I'm the daddy."
I think the main argument on why Eren had to kill his mom or rather has to make sure that what happened in the past actually occur is to avoid the risk of the founding titan not ending up with him. If Dina ate Bertholt, there's room to say that Eren would lose to power control the titans and would have not have the power to change things in the first place, it would be a paradox. That said, there's also room for argument that he could have just eaten Dina at a later date. He could have crafted a new history where everone is safe but the show failed to show this, making Eren look like an idiot. The show could place limitations in his time altering powers, like for example, Carla dying in front of him is a fixed point in the history and can't be changed whatever he does. It could have shown Eren doing multiples things to prevent Dina from eating Carla only for fate to intervene and have her die in a different way etc..
She didn't have to eat Bertholdt... The issue isn't the events that happened, it's Eren saying that HE made them happen. Which is completely unnecessary given that the situation didn't need any further explaining. It's already believable enough that Dina would be the titan to find Eren's mom without some forced explanation. Having her walk past Bertholdt and ignore him just made the situation dumb, when Isayama could've just had Bertholdt not be there when she arrived.
I would have just said the founding titan isn't capable of manipulating past events and left it at that. let his mom's death be what it was before, a random tragedy. the only other time there is any manipulation of the past is Eren convincing Grisha but that can be explained by the mess of knowing eachother's memories.
Correct me if I'm wrong but there's no other instance of the founding titan affecting things in the past right?
I mean, attack on titan is what made these guys blow up, it doesn't surprise me at all that they'd know isayama was the creator
6:42 if he let Bert get eaten by Dina she would return back to normal and the Eldians would know about the royals and the world outside the walls by episode 2.
Yeah exactly SO WHY ADD THIS DETAIL AT ALL? IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE FOR EREN TO SPEND HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME IN PATHS ONLY CREATING A REALITY, WHERE THE CHARACTERS SUFFER FOR NO REASON. IT MAKES EREN SEEM COMPLETELY STUPID. WE DIDNT NEED THIS BS PLOTTWIST. IT ONLY MADE TVE SHOW WORSE. PLEASE TELL ME YOU UNDERSTAND
@@CODELIRIOUS-sy8xzyOu arE JusT a fAke FaN bro
DETERMINISM
Any of yall have a link to the discord?
Wait...what she actually wanted???
A kiss from a woman simp (simp for no reason) and someone that was about to eliminate 90-95% (or something like that) of the entire population of the Globe?!
That's sick (and not the good type of sick)...she is sick!
EDIT: Someone know in the comment section how many kisses we actually see in this series anime/manga?!
What kind of girls do you know saint lmao😭
What is really the reason for eren to kill his mom?
I always thought it was to get the founding titan. Because we can see in memories of the future that after grisha killed all the royal family members and saw what the humanity had for the future he asked Zeke to stop Eren, as it was that horrifying.
But if that's what grisha thought why would trasfer the founding titan to Eren when he reached back to the refugees camp?
I think that this is what is answered here. Eren made Dina kill Carla. So when grisha returned back to eren, the kid eren only mumbled "titan ate mother". But the future eren would have trasmitted his memory of that scene to Grisha, and then grisha will know its Dina who ate Carla.
This would have angered Grisha since Marley didn't only take his first wife from him but they were the reason why his first wife killed the second, when he was trying to put that all behind and lead a new life inside the walls (although he is still griefing about his first).
This must have angered him and that's why he passed on titan to Eren. Even in episode 11 of season 3 he said avenga Carla knowing well of what Eren will commit with the founders power. And also said that Eren is different to Keith.
But this was never mentioned in the show, while this reasoning made perfect sense to me. And this was just cancelled by the final movie where grisha still wanted to stop eren and hence helped the alliance.
Damn Saint roasting AOT so hard in this one xD (at the moment with roblox shit im done)
Watching reaction video of a reaction video
I have a question, Is it true that the anime cut out Gabi telling the alliance that there was a strange entity inside of Eren? I didn’t watch the movie btw.
That take on woman was unecessary dude. Since the one who made this whole thing a love story was, fun enough, a man. So yeah, very unecessary disrespect towards carlie
27:40 this just not makes any sense😂 he was protecting her even before he touched historia hand? Before he regained all the memories? He can't fucking stand her from the very beginning, how can't ppl not notice this??
Isayama should never release anything else.
Yes!!my only aot reactors
Man really should’ve just made new content instead of hating on aot for 2 years, waste of time
He's gone now, somebody doxxed and swatted him now he's scared to make content
Look at his past videos before the last ep came out he hasn’t even been talking about aot bro
@@amenz27no he isn’t lmao he’s still posting on community tab ☠️ I’m glad he’s moving away from that sht show
@@kirokye posting on community tab isn't making content
Btw
Where's ur first reaction to this episode?
Aot story it's inspired by muvluv alternative story and muvluv alternative story made hajemi isyama to create both Manga and anime story and isyama he said that he was inspired by muvluv alternative story to create aot story but muvluv alternative released in 2003 to 2006 but in 2003 muvluv alternative have 2 different ending's time line both of the 2 different ending's are failed twice but in 2006 muvluv alternative story get a New ending sequel of the story plot twist and there are a lot of similarities between aot story and muvluv alternative story so the AOE or Akatsuki no Requiem ending it's the new sequel ending of aot story time line universe so maybe in this 2024 the ANR ending could happen or maybe we are going to wait between 2025 to 2026 until we get the ANR ending the new sequel ending of aot story
discord link not working
37:44 Yea it was pretty weird
you look like jayson tatum
You do realize the memory is also important because it's the last time they have a real conversation
Hey saint you should watch pantheon it's a great show 9/10
i thought saint was going to forget about aot after the ending. why is he so obsessed with what other people think? I think the anime ending is good even though I don't enjoy it but bro is still on this hate train 2 years later
The anime finale literally just came out. What are you on about?
@@thelegacyofgaming2928it’s been out for a week and he’s still reacting to other peoples opinion.
@@remphz3321I think he loved the series that much that, seeing it end like this and not liking it real hurt him and made him very disappointed
i mean same but going around making these vid is a bit too much. I saw he even donated to moistcritical to get him to notice his message on twitch so he can change his mind.@@feraslaoufi9681
He's looking up what other people think of the anime ending, same as what you're doing and this the first where he finds some like minded opinions.
3:18 if Eren didn't "kill" his mother, he would have never got the power in the first place, he would have never went on to become the Founding... this is a time loop if it wasn't obvious, Eren is obsessed with "Freedom" because he is a slave to his ability to "see the future" which just makes him follow a single path where all of his friends can live long lives... In short Eren can change little to nothing till he gets his powers, aka the moment Zeke catches his head, everything before that is written in stone, that is why he can't change things... you might call it a copout, but this is what comes with time travel stories... Eren only really becomes free when he dies, just like Zeke said when he talked with Armin... I have yet to find a valid argument against the ending that was chosen(I don't think it was amazing, but if you think the logic is seriously flawed you probably just didn't pay attention, I have problem with the way it was presented, but videos like this prove that not only there was not too much explanation, for most there was too little, I would have preferred if things stay more ambiguous). The only thing that is actually wonky is the reason for why exactly Ymir needed a proof or example from Mikasa, which is the only thing that is deliberately not answered in the show...... btw my running theory on Ymir needing Mikasa isn't even about Mikasa or love, it's about being "human" and willing to fight "evil" even if their actions benefits you(aka would people revolt against their dictator if they were winning), but that's just head-canon and maybe Iseyama wanted a more f-ed up "romantic" ending therefore went with Mikasa's love+murder being the key...
But having Dina eat bertoldt is just unquestionably better than 80% cry over step sister paradis nuke ending 😂 imagine she became a shifter.
Man. Te ending is trash. ...
So basically eren killed his mom to let his friends live long lives.. Lmao This ending gets more dogshit the more you dissect it
Of course he would of gotten it😂😂 he’s the founding titan he can do anything he wants😂😂😂 he can remove the titans powers from Freda, Reiner ,Annie let Dina eat berthold then send all the mindless titans back to the ocean to drown themselves then start the rumbling 😂
@@aotgoat3267 Did you even read what I wrote? The moment he changes something from before he was murdered by Gabi he changed the past and is no longer able to change anything thus whatever he did was erased... Eren had 4 choices: 1- roll over and let everybody he knows die by the hand of the alliance(he could do this at any point), 2- do 100%, erase the titan powers then watch as new eldia eats itself alive as Jaegersists fight the Crown and endanger his friends with a civil war 3-Do 80%, and give Paradis 100-200 years of peace until the world becomes ready to annihilate it... he chose the 3rd option because that is the only one where his friends live... there is a 4th option, doing 100% then, erasing all other titan powers then staying a god, basically enslaving all Eldians under his rule, until somebody murders him in his sleep...
Saint searching sooo hard to find a reactor who hates the ending and can barley find any it’s pathetic hahaha
Absolutely. Its an L. Dude cant face it
Well if you have founders power thats nean you can do anything 😂 but eren yeager no i wanted to flatten them 😂the fok man you had tye power to save your mom every single comrade but you choosed lets flatten the world and before dying a little bit of simping for mickasa the fok man 😂
Who say founder titan have a ability to do anything are you mooroon
@@Thundeclap well he could have give command to all pure titans to kill each others 😂 and transform all the eldians beyond walls into wall titans and rumble the world thise one is so easy 😂
@@Dioriohagu and you think ymir want to accept that😂
@@Thundeclap Plot* Ymir is a slave bro. What she gonna do? Stop Eren?
@@orenonawasteevie2068 ymir is slave?yes for a royal blood,but for eren?nah even in anime it stated that the one who control past titan shifter is ymir
16:30 But they also rushed Isayama, you complain about the ending but don’t complain about Isayama not being given enough time?
I know 2 years or more seems like a lot but something else that is a lot is the massive lore Isayama made within AOT.
I blame Isayama’s editor and Mappa for all of the plot holes and I am someone who was fine with the ending and Eren being a pathetic character(I thought he would want to do 100% rumbling but I also expected him to die so oh well), I still blame Isayama being rushed for the unanswered plot holes.
He is a brilliant writer if he is given enough time, but in this case he just wasn’t in my opinion, the reason Mappa cooked because of the amount of time it took to produce the ending, the voice actors voice acting, musicians slaying, and all of that which lead to Isayama being rushed in my opinion, because once the ending was rushed it was *destined*to still have plot holes because of the time and effort the poor animators take into crafting the animation.
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Carlie and Ange are one of the best reactors out there, and btw they liked the ending they just had some criticism which is totally normal.
28:26 I hope you’re not a fan of Sakura with this argument😂
Bet he wouldn’t react to Nicholas light’s reaction😂
He did? Know what you're talking about before commenting.
@@compositeur8455 bro no need to glaze him he’s never gonna know who you are little boy😂
@@dylannathaniel1940 All he did was correct you bozo
@@dylannathaniel1940 ****defense mode activated**** 🤖
Yo this is straight up hilarious XDDDD
P.S. AOE is definitely happening. But.... 139 is straight up garbage.