😆 I must admit the public education system in the US has its own adgenda from state to state. World history and world geography is very low on the list. Q: How may Americans does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: All of them. They/we all hold the bulb and wait for the word to revolve around us.
@@HumorAndHistory A German friend of mine told me something similar. "How many Germans does it take to screw in a light bulb? Just one obviously, we are very efficient and have no sense of humour."
I'm a Unicorn American that got to travel for school and my career. I've been horrified for 30 years with my Country. I'm grateful Americans are waking up to us Not being No. 1 in much, and are rights to thrive in our Country, like the Human Rights Union stuff and Health and safety... Planet.
I have just seen this first time with Humour and History and really enjoyed watching it - I did not think I would like Philomena Cunk so put off watching it for months but to my surprise I enjoyed every minute of this! Thank you!
It was not all one way. In return for smallpox, the natives gave the early settlers syphilis. I notice that it appears common for the people of the USA to confuse the terms 'the Monarch' and 'the Crown'''. In fact these terms have a different meaning and are not interchangeable. Contrary to what is taught in Public Schools in the USA, George III had no authority at all over the Colonies, all the decisions were made by the government of the day.
This is not true, of course he did. If the early American colonists were self-governing, then who were they revolting against during the American Revolution?
Please don't confuse the colonists with 'us' or 'we'. Two totally different peoples. In addition, the colonists and their unelected authorities were two different groups, nor were the authorities all the same. Their colour was merely incidental, as the vast majority of inter-continental seafarers were typically European, thus 'white'. History shows almost all cultures and races, including native american, african, and asian cultures practiced slavery, a universal evil first outlawed by the British and their colonies, of which the U.S. were by that time independent, and continued the practice until the American Civil War.
As an English immigrant to the USA I've learned how important it is to Americans that no people pay taxes without proper representation in government. This is why the residents of Washington DC don't pay any taxes... Oh wait. I mean, this is why the residents of Washington DC have voting representation in both houses of congress. Oh, er, hang on, what was that about no taxation without representation again?
Actually only about 35% of the population, at the time, wanted to separate from England. Just the outspoken minority took to more extreme action. Many were indifferent. You can see were similar indifference, helped allow a 35% vote have a certain German leader rise to power.
Well Washington DC isn't a state or part of any state for that matter. It's owned by the federal government as federal property. They do technically have a Delegate in the House of Representatives they don't get a vote on the house floor but can vote in congressional committees and on procedural matters.
@@nontrashfire2 that’s an optimistic percentage too, some historians place it close to 20-25% with similar percentages for active Loyalists - the vast majority just wanted to get on with their lives
I saw a Cunk Q&A panel with Diane Morgan and the writer. the Philomena Cunk character has the back story as a 'cupcake blogger' before doing the documentaries. That makes everything even funnier.
I (British person) learned some new things about US settlement and colonisation from your commentary. Germ warfare nothing new then, though it wasn't actually warfare, just bad. Looking forward to the next one 😊xx
@@anne-louisegoldie I have always been interested in the English-Scottish relationships, I hadn’t realized they were so prolific. Thank you for enjoying the content, I’ll strive to consistently improve.
@@HumorAndHistory it depends, we’re all technically British (whether we are English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish), it’s like someone is both Texan and American but some may prefer to primarily be identified by their home nation e.g. Scottish or English. But ultimately there’s only one British citizenship for all of us. And while Scots are British, and some may just prefer to be called Scottish, they *definitely* don’t want to be called English The other key thing to remember though as I’m sure you’re aware is that British and English are not interchangeable terms for the same thing, just as Texan and American aren’t - all Texans are American but not all Americans are Texans. Similarly all English people are British but not all British people are English. You’re pretty safe referring to us all as British - unless you’re specifically referring to England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. I personally prefer British, despite being born and raised in England because my own background is very mixed (but then most of us are pretty mixed, a significant number of English people will also have Irish ancestry for example. And there we get into another difference between the US and UK, if your parents are Irish and you’re born in England, you’ll probably not say that you’re Irish but rather that your parents are Irish. There’s more complexity to it than that but no one with an Irish grandparent is likely to refer to themselves as Irish unless they grew up in Ireland and Irish culture).
It is quite likely. Taxes and representation in government were the big ones. I wish I could tell you about the taxes other than some came and went: different things were taxed at different time and it affected different parts of the population at different times. All of the facts are what we learn about history are one thing. The other are the feelings and context of average people. Some felt like 2nd class citizens, others would write letters of what it was like to have different taxes levied and removed, some were very loyal. For example, the Quartering Act let to rape, food loss, mistreatment, vandalism and murder in some cases according to published letter in Massachusetts. Many things add to a “general feeling”, just like we do today on political figures, countries, our neighbors. That seems to be the “missing factor” that is so hard to convey. so taxes being the known factor, letters and diaries etc being the other. what a long response, I’m so sorry! 😂
@TheHistoryBuff I understand. That was why racial clarification became so prominent. Making someone lesser than you gave you a reason to be in charge of them. Even to Benjamin Franklin, the definition of being "white" didn't include a number of modern-day European nations.
Before you unpause, tap the left arrow key to rewind 5 seconds. That will placate the pedants like me who are like "OMG you missed my favourite bit!!?!"
Some people hate to hear about awful things Britain (or the US) did in the past, but personally it makes me feel a little better knowing that even reading the news now we've come a long long way and are really a lot better than we were for most of our history. There are luddites who want to turn the clock back, but even the point they want to turn it back to isn't the worst and the tide of history is against them. It's quite inspiring.
I've enjoyed these Philiomena Cunk reactions. Partially because I am a big fan of her work, but also because you appear to have the knowledge to fill in the details. It's a bit like when I watch a Stewart Lee show. I find it hilarious, but don't directly understand or even know about 10% of his reference points, but understand his comedy well enough to know where he is heading. With Cunk, she talks about stuff I vaguely studied at school approaching 40 years ago and appreciate that there is a serious point in statements that suggest Europeans passed diseases and viruses to new parts of the colonies as part of some some of mutually beneficial trade agreement. It would be great to see you react to some of Stewart Lee's stuff, but be warned there is very little of his work that can be used in bitesize chunks. Don't bother with any of his early pre-relative fame clips that are on UA-cam. He would admit that there is very little that is any good in them. And almost all the bit that were funny were later re-written and performed as parts of longer better routines.
They had "three sister" system for crop growing. They had nitrogen "fixing" plants along side plants that used a lot of nitrogen. Even the exposure to cows was a threat to the natives. The realization that milk maids were at a lower risk led to the exploration of what led to vaccines. The term itself is derived from the French word for cow. Cow pox and small pox are closely related. This is absolutely overly simplified.
You are the only person I have ever heard considering that whackamole might not be a thing in other places - which is very true. But some might know it from US media closing the loop 👍
I am now wanting to know how the States were unified. I have just been informed that three of the states are classed as commonwealths. Is this true? It was surprising that you pronounced Caribbean as we do in the UK.
I my area of Pennsylvania we are of German decent, we have different pronunciations. On Commonwealths, there is actually little more than the term that differs. That is the short answer.
This is similar to shows like Ricky Gervais' The Office, I'm Alan Partridge and Da Ali G Show. The main character is a silly and outrageous media figure who interacts with real people and celebrities who are unaware of the joke. However, Diane Morgan's character, Philomena Cunk, may have reached its peak after almost a decade of popularity. The comedic formula loses its effectiveness when too many people know that it's just a cartoon character. This is the same reason why Sasha Baron Cohen stopped playing his Ali G character - too many people recognized him, and the joke was no longer effective. (◠‿◠✿)
That is one of the great ironies that lead to America..basically; "We, the English are off to fight another war and you are going to pay, as Englishmen, for Crown, Country and Glory" "Nice idea, but we Englishmen are doing quite well over here and are giving the Crown a nice kick-back for the toil, we just don't want all that stuff with pointy-bits at the moment, thank you very much" "...So you're saying that you are invoking the rights of a Free-man under God, Crown and Country in order to refuse to fight?" "I am, Sir, as is my right as a free Englishman..." "ummm...sooooo...are you saying you will or not fight?...I kind of have to go back with an answer on this..." "Alright, we said we aren't fighting in some petty war and we will wage a petty war just to prove the fucking point, you can tell the Crown to go fuck itself and behold what It's loins doth bear...also, this is..or will be Boston, we have to go throw a few extra letters in place-names whilst also taking them out of the pronunciation, as is the English manner, and that in sign-writing alone is taking precious time out of all the fighting we could be doing"
There was an indirect impact of the War of Independence; an innocent victim. Because they had lost the Americas, the British then moved on to colonise Australia in earnest. I wonder if it would have been done with as much fervour if they’d managed to hang on the the USA. Do you ever cover Australian history? It’s cool if you don’t as we’ve only be Australia for just over 200 years.
I was fine talking to Americans the first time (I'm British) due to American TV and movies, apart from anything to do with food or cookery where you maniacs have changed everything and ambushed us due to nobody ever eating in your TV and movies!
What I don't understand is why the settlers weren't hit equally hard by Native American diseases. Their immune systems should be just as defenceless against that as the natives were against smallpox, no?
The settlers had stronger immune systems due to many factors. I’ll see what I can find specifically if it’s not correct, but the two factors I recall were a more dense population history (sewage and close quarter diseases) and living with domesticated animals. Indigenous Americans had a more nomadic lifestyle resulting in a lower exposure to diseases in general. However, settlers did die from receiving diseases, but their immune system in general was much stronger. I hope that helps. I’ll see what else I can find and add it if necessary. Great question!
Sorry to put a downer on this, but the Cunk character is intended to be comedic, giving a parodic/satirical take on history. Viewers KNOW the history, otherwise we would not get the jokes at all. We do not require gaps, errors and obvious nonsenses to be explained and elaborated. I will check out your channel again for non-comedic history reactions; but the point of comedy is to laugh, rather than come away prepped for a history exam.
Being as nice a possible, i think you are discussing her videos/ reactions the same way the the pros are in the clups,and the whole reason this is funny,is bevause we already know most of the facts. Let go, and enjoy the cringe...
Is it really necessary that you pause the video every few seconds, you are ruining the flow of the video and the jokes that philomena is saying. I didn't realise that I was going to be getting a history lesson from you. 🙁
I love the Philomena Cunk character she plays especially when she interviews serious people. She does great stuff.
An American that knows geography? I feel like I just saw a unicorn!
😆 I must admit the public education system in the US has its own adgenda from state to state. World history and world geography is very low on the list. Q: How may Americans does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: All of them. They/we all hold the bulb and wait for the word to revolve around us.
@@HumorAndHistory A German friend of mine told me something similar. "How many Germans does it take to screw in a light bulb? Just one obviously, we are very efficient and have no sense of humour."
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@finncullen Stealing it.... 😂
I'm a Unicorn American that got to travel for school and my career. I've been horrified for 30 years with my Country. I'm grateful Americans are waking up to us Not being No. 1 in much, and are rights to thrive in our Country, like the Human Rights Union stuff and Health and safety... Planet.
You have a very informative and pleasant manner, I like your style
I have just seen this first time with Humour and History and really enjoyed watching it - I did not think I would like Philomena Cunk so put off watching it for months but to my surprise I enjoyed every minute of this! Thank you!
It was not all one way. In return for smallpox, the natives gave the early settlers syphilis. I notice that it appears common for the people of the USA to confuse the terms 'the Monarch' and 'the Crown'''. In fact these terms have a different meaning and are not interchangeable.
Contrary to what is taught in Public Schools in the USA, George III had no authority at all over the Colonies, all the decisions were made by the government of the day.
I did not know about the non interchangeability of the crown and the monarch. Just looked it up, thanks!
This is not true, of course he did. If the early American colonists were self-governing, then who were they revolting against during the American Revolution?
@@intercommerce You missed the point entirely!
@@archiebald4717 Syphilis existed in Europe also .
@@aramisone7198 It came from the Americas
Please don't confuse the colonists with 'us' or 'we'. Two totally different peoples. In addition, the colonists and their unelected authorities were two different groups, nor were the authorities all the same. Their colour was merely incidental, as the vast majority of inter-continental seafarers were typically European, thus 'white'. History shows almost all cultures and races, including native american, african, and asian cultures practiced slavery, a universal evil first outlawed by the British and their colonies, of which the U.S. were by that time independent, and continued the practice until the American Civil War.
As an English immigrant to the USA I've learned how important it is to Americans that no people pay taxes without proper representation in government. This is why the residents of Washington DC don't pay any taxes... Oh wait. I mean, this is why the residents of Washington DC have voting representation in both houses of congress. Oh, er, hang on, what was that about no taxation without representation again?
I hear you. How the tables have turned. I enjoy how you worded this as well, lol!
Actually only about 35% of the population, at the time, wanted to separate from England. Just the outspoken minority took to more extreme action. Many were indifferent. You can see were similar indifference, helped allow a 35% vote have a certain German leader rise to power.
Well Washington DC isn't a state or part of any state for that matter. It's owned by the federal government as federal property. They do technically have a Delegate in the House of Representatives they don't get a vote on the house floor but can vote in congressional committees and on procedural matters.
@@SyhNix I'm well aware of this, SyhNix. But you could hardly call that full representation given they pay taxation.
@@nontrashfire2 that’s an optimistic percentage too, some historians place it close to 20-25% with similar percentages for active Loyalists - the vast majority just wanted to get on with their lives
I saw a Cunk Q&A panel with Diane Morgan and the writer. the Philomena Cunk character has the back story as a 'cupcake blogger' before doing the documentaries. That makes everything even funnier.
That's great, lol!
I wouldn't be so sure that all of the founding fathers were straight.
Ignore that first comment, I like the analysis of it, that person is just rude. ^_^
Thank you kindly, tbh that’s not too bad. Thanks for having my back!
@@HumorAndHistory I think your videos are great! :)
I (British person) learned some new things about US settlement and colonisation from your commentary. Germ warfare nothing new then, though it wasn't actually warfare, just bad. Looking forward to the next one 😊xx
Thank you for letting me know. I am learning much about your country as well! Also, do prefer to be called English or British? This always stumps me.
@@HumorAndHistory British for me ( born in England to Scots parents, lived in Scotland most of my life, but have an English accent) 😀xx
@@anne-louisegoldie I have always been interested in the English-Scottish relationships, I hadn’t realized they were so prolific. Thank you for enjoying the content, I’ll strive to consistently improve.
@@HumorAndHistory it depends, we’re all technically British (whether we are English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish), it’s like someone is both Texan and American but some may prefer to primarily be identified by their home nation e.g. Scottish or English. But ultimately there’s only one British citizenship for all of us.
And while Scots are British, and some may just prefer to be called Scottish, they *definitely* don’t want to be called English
The other key thing to remember though as I’m sure you’re aware is that British and English are not interchangeable terms for the same thing, just as Texan and American aren’t - all Texans are American but not all Americans are Texans. Similarly all English people are British but not all British people are English. You’re pretty safe referring to us all as British - unless you’re specifically referring to England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.
I personally prefer British, despite being born and raised in England because my own background is very mixed (but then most of us are pretty mixed, a significant number of English people will also have Irish ancestry for example. And there we get into another difference between the US and UK, if your parents are Irish and you’re born in England, you’ll probably not say that you’re Irish but rather that your parents are Irish. There’s more complexity to it than that but no one with an Irish grandparent is likely to refer to themselves as Irish unless they grew up in Ireland and Irish culture).
Thank you for that break down, it is well done and clear. I assumed if I used the term "British" I would offend somebody.
I may be wrong but I believe the colonists were actually taxed less than people living in England.
It is quite likely. Taxes and representation in government were the big ones. I wish I could tell you about the taxes other than some came and went: different things were taxed at different time and it affected different parts of the population at different times. All of the facts are what we learn about history are one thing. The other are the feelings and context of average people. Some felt like 2nd class citizens, others would write letters of what it was like to have different taxes levied and removed, some were very loyal. For example, the Quartering Act let to rape, food loss, mistreatment, vandalism and murder in some cases according to published letter in Massachusetts. Many things add to a “general feeling”, just like we do today on political figures, countries, our neighbors. That seems to be the “missing factor” that is so hard to convey. so taxes being the known factor, letters and diaries etc being the other. what a long response, I’m so sorry! 😂
@TheHistoryBuff I understand. That was why racial clarification became so prominent. Making someone lesser than you gave you a reason to be in charge of them. Even to Benjamin Franklin, the definition of being "white" didn't include a number of modern-day European nations.
The word "cookie" originates from Dutch.
John Paul Jones... "Hold my beer! I'm taking this fight to them!"
Slave triangle , LIverpool, Africa, Caribbean
Never treat Tea like that BOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Before you unpause, tap the left arrow key to rewind 5 seconds. That will placate the pedants like me who are like "OMG you missed my favourite bit!!?!"
Good tip!
Some people hate to hear about awful things Britain (or the US) did in the past, but personally it makes me feel a little better knowing that even reading the news now we've come a long long way and are really a lot better than we were for most of our history. There are luddites who want to turn the clock back, but even the point they want to turn it back to isn't the worst and the tide of history is against them. It's quite inspiring.
7:32 Why do you call them Americans? For the time being they were as much British subjects as anybody called John in Birmingham, England.
I've enjoyed these Philiomena Cunk reactions. Partially because I am a big fan of her work, but also because you appear to have the knowledge to fill in the details. It's a bit like when I watch a Stewart Lee show. I find it hilarious, but don't directly understand or even know about 10% of his reference points, but understand his comedy well enough to know where he is heading.
With Cunk, she talks about stuff I vaguely studied at school approaching 40 years ago and appreciate that there is a serious point in statements that suggest Europeans passed diseases and viruses to new parts of the colonies as part of some some of mutually beneficial trade agreement.
It would be great to see you react to some of Stewart Lee's stuff, but be warned there is very little of his work that can be used in bitesize chunks. Don't bother with any of his early pre-relative fame clips that are on UA-cam. He would admit that there is very little that is any good in them. And almost all the bit that were funny were later re-written and performed as parts of longer better routines.
This is what we British term a « piss take » 😂
Ignore that second comment. Gimme all the attention
😆
They had "three sister" system for crop growing. They had nitrogen "fixing" plants along side plants that used a lot of nitrogen. Even the exposure to cows was a threat to the natives. The realization that milk maids were at a lower risk led to the exploration of what led to vaccines. The term itself is derived from the French word for cow. Cow pox and small pox are closely related. This is absolutely overly simplified.
You are the only person I have ever heard considering that whackamole might not be a thing in other places - which is very true. But some might know it from US media closing the loop 👍
I am now wanting to know how the States were unified. I have just been informed that three of the states are classed as commonwealths. Is this true? It was surprising that you pronounced Caribbean as we do in the UK.
I my area of Pennsylvania we are of German decent, we have different pronunciations. On Commonwealths, there is actually little more than the term that differs. That is the short answer.
This is similar to shows like Ricky Gervais' The Office, I'm Alan Partridge and Da Ali G Show. The main character is a silly and outrageous media figure who interacts with real people and celebrities who are unaware of the joke.
However, Diane Morgan's character, Philomena Cunk, may have reached its peak after almost a decade of popularity. The comedic formula loses its effectiveness when too many people know that it's just a cartoon character.
This is the same reason why Sasha Baron Cohen stopped playing his Ali G character - too many people recognized him, and the joke was no longer effective. (◠‿◠✿)
By the way , his real name was Colombo , not Columbus ! She’s right!
It was east not west when he referred to Asia. Also he went on and on without acknowledging it was comedy.
That is one of the great ironies that lead to America..basically;
"We, the English are off to fight another war and you are going to pay, as Englishmen, for Crown, Country and Glory"
"Nice idea, but we Englishmen are doing quite well over here and are giving the Crown a nice kick-back for the toil, we just don't want all that stuff with pointy-bits at the moment, thank you very much"
"...So you're saying that you are invoking the rights of a Free-man under God, Crown and Country in order to refuse to fight?"
"I am, Sir, as is my right as a free Englishman..."
"ummm...sooooo...are you saying you will or not fight?...I kind of have to go back with an answer on this..."
"Alright, we said we aren't fighting in some petty war and we will wage a petty war just to prove the fucking point, you can tell the Crown to go fuck itself and behold what It's loins doth bear...also, this is..or will be Boston, we have to go throw a few extra letters in place-names whilst also taking them out of the pronunciation, as is the English manner, and that in sign-writing alone is taking precious time out of all the fighting we could be doing"
10/10 nailed it. You guys have the best comments!
The Americans have beaten the British in war.
There was an indirect impact of the War of Independence; an innocent victim. Because they had lost the Americas, the British then moved on to colonise Australia in earnest. I wonder if it would have been done with as much fervour if they’d managed to hang on the the USA. Do you ever cover Australian history? It’s cool if you don’t as we’ve only be Australia for just over 200 years.
I was fine talking to Americans the first time (I'm British) due to American TV and movies, apart from anything to do with food or cookery where you maniacs have changed everything and ambushed us due to nobody ever eating in your TV and movies!
If you are going to react to something you need to hear her question and answer otherwise we are just listening to you explain history.
What I don't understand is why the settlers weren't hit equally hard by Native American diseases. Their immune systems should be just as defenceless against that as the natives were against smallpox, no?
The settlers had stronger immune systems due to many factors. I’ll see what I can find specifically if it’s not correct, but the two factors I recall were a more dense population history (sewage and close quarter diseases) and living with domesticated animals. Indigenous Americans had a more nomadic lifestyle resulting in a lower exposure to diseases in general. However, settlers did die from receiving diseases, but their immune system in general was much stronger. I hope that helps. I’ll see what else I can find and add it if necessary. Great question!
@@HumorAndHistory I see. Yeah, that makes sense.
i see you have changed in your presentation and tweaked your view to real history
You look like Bill Paxton's nicer brother.
It's always the nose and chin 😆
5 seconds of video followed by a minute's discourse isn't the way forward.
Trying to turn a history spoof comedy into an actual history lesson does rather miss the point.
Sorry to put a downer on this, but the Cunk character is intended to be comedic, giving a parodic/satirical take on history. Viewers KNOW the history, otherwise we would not get the jokes at all. We do not require gaps, errors and obvious nonsenses to be explained and elaborated. I will check out your channel again for non-comedic history reactions; but the point of comedy is to laugh, rather than come away prepped for a history exam.
Being as nice a possible, i think you are discussing her videos/ reactions the same way the the pros are in the clups,and the whole reason this is funny,is bevause we already know most of the facts. Let go, and enjoy the cringe...
dun do any reactions to steve vai please lest ye rip the joy out of that too.
A sad Yankee apologist. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
You're taking it far to seriously---it's supposed to be a comedy show not a history lesson.
nooo, not me! 🙂
Is it really necessary that you pause the video every few seconds, you are ruining the flow of the video and the jokes that philomena is saying. I didn't realise that I was going to be getting a history lesson from you. 🙁
yup