Why Kaliningrad Will be Ukraine 2.0
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- To the outside world, Kaliningrad is simply a part of Russia 🌍. But change is brewing in this western exclave. From a strategic military hub 🛡️ to a potential flashpoint for conflict ⚔️, Kaliningrad's future hangs in the balance. Could it become Ukraine 2.0? 🇺🇦 Dive into Kaliningrad’s complex history and evolving geopolitical significance in our latest video.
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"Königsberg was essentially absorbed into East Prussia during this period". What a distortion of history. Königsberg was the capital of East Prussia and East Prusia was part of Germany.
Which is also a distortion of history. Germany didn't exist before 1871, so it was just East Prussia, not part of another nation.
@@mjouwbuis Sure, but it did exist since 1871, and East Prussia was part of it. And before 1871, East Prussia had been part of Prussia. That's where Prussia got its name from.
But the Germany came back to it's natural borders and it's time to sign peace tready with Poland we still at war and pay reparations
hahaha, at first I read Kongsberg... a small Norwegian city. hahah
But at the end Germany came back to it's natural borders. So pay reparations for enslaving other countries
Well if Putin's thinking is correct, the territory should revert to Germany. Maybe Germany should conduct a special operation to take it back?
He just know the convenient parts of history he likes
Didnt anyone told him that millions of people dye in big wars , its in our history , or he just doesnt care about lifes , if so whats the point in doing anything
Just playing around , he is a psycopath , not someone normal people can understand
Germany is not interested but tthe best solution is independence within the EU.
@@rogerphelps9939😂😂😂 you can always dream 😂😂
immediately after the return of Texas and California to Mexico
Цели России на Украине это демилитаризация и денацификация!
Konisberg was the capitol of East Prussia. After a plague Prussia invited thousands of Lithuanians and Poles to repopulate towns and farms. Jews also settled, perhaps 10-15%. German was taught in higher schools, although lower grades could use other languages, until Germanization in late 1800's. Hardly any descendants of that earlier Prussian polyglot population survived the forced migrations of Nazis or Russians. Prussia existed for centuries before German unification of diverse principalities, kingdoms, duchies or electorates. It was never a Russian territory until grabbed by Stalin.
Teutonic order conquered Prussia. Slavic population lived there before Teutonic order invasion. Its was a artificial Vatican state.
@@harbinger200true, the Curonians and others, the northern crusades were super interesting I wish there was more material and research on them
Go back far enough and huge swathe of Europe was Celtic. The whole British Isles France right over to the Caspian Sea Western shore. Is Ireland laying claim to any of this land? Not to mention the Scots, Welsh, Bretons, Cornish, Devonians, Basque, etc etc.
@@davidelliott5843 Then give it to Lithuania and Poland, not Russia.
@@riversandrds Give it independence.
Not sure which audience this is aimed at, but the territory of Kaliningrad was East Prussia before 1945.
Prussia was an independent Germanic state arising from the Teutonic knights in the 14th/15th century, which fought Napoleon at Waterloo and which under Bismarck united Germany into a single Empire with the King of Prussia as emperor. It wasn't some remote exclave of Germany, it was the founding heart of Germany.
In 1945 the German population was expelled (those that had not already fled) and the now empty Kaliningrad was repopulated with Russian colonists.
Don’t forget Iena where Napoleon defeated Prussia totally
Ehe...? You "forgot" to mention territory of so called East Prussia is consited in three parts: The western was always a genuine part of Poland with seaport Gdańsk as its capital. The middle part called Warmia, Olsztyn, Braniewo and Biskupin major cities. This part was populated by Polish majority of catholic denomination, it was part of Polish Crown 1466-1772 when it got treacherously grabbed by the so called Prussian King in 1772. The rest with Konigsberg as capital was a fief /subordinate/ of Poland 1466-1657, Treaty of Bydgoszcz, when by way of treason it got out of Polish Crown. Poles were majority in many parts of East Prussia until a forced "germanization" got enacted in 1772.
@@jbqu3142 He did not. Prussians were at Waterloo, the final defeat of Napoleon.
Historical events are very different from your simplified version, but it serves your confirmation bias well, I suppose.
For everybody else, before Martin Luther literally invented the idea of "Germanic" out of hundreds of tribes in an attempt to build his own army of zombies to break away from the Pope's rules, he found Titus' "Battle of the Teutoburg Forest" in a church library, 1500 years after the Farytail had been written by state propagandists to justify the Romans' defeat by a small forest tribe.
So much for Germanic identity.
@@TheSecurityAgencyb The concept and word germanic originates in classical times as a roman latin term for the germanic peoples of germany and gaul. No sane and credible historian has ever denied the teutoburg forrest battle. You are accusing others of confirmation bias while parroting a historyball meme. I assume you're an italian/british/american Christian and you've had too many bad encounters with germanic pagans online and started reading into schizo theories
Love how Tallinn Old Town in shown for half this video as "Lithuania" and Pripyat near Chernobyl in Ukraine is shown for some reason when talking about Kaliningrad for the other half of this video.
Yeah I wondered how many other people noticed. Result of AI generated videos and script, maybe, but still good topic.
I don’t know who you are, Hteras, or how you can possibly recognize neighborhoods of remote towns . But I love it when someone with superior knowledge busts an attempt to trick the readers.
I suppose it’s one of the new inherent dangerous of the Internet: if you try to BS, you can easily be busted by someone with superior knowledge. Kudos.
My ancestors coming from Königsberg and eastern Prussia, we lived there 500 years before we needed to flee, sadly.
Perhaps you shouldn’t have started a world war, then you could still have lived in east Prussia.
@@a.rodimtsev9446 Ok, we'll take note not to start wars. _pepega emote_
@@a.rodimtsev9446
Bro read a history book.
It was not the Germans that started the First World War it was the Austrians that started the First world war which then ended up starting the Second World War.
They still would have lived in East Prussia if the Austrians weren't so inclined to have war with Serbia back in 1914 after Franz Ferdinand got shot.
Modern Day Austrian Historians even said that the Austrians fully wanted war and made sure to make the conditions as impossible as they could make them and they were even more surprised that the Serbian government back then actually accepted so many seemingly impossible conditions.
Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini would have never gone into power if the first world war didn't happen but it did happen so yeah this is a bad timeline.
@@a.rodimtsev9446 I am sure ravenclaw1725 was born well after WW2 and had nothing to do with it.
Too bad you're not Palestinian.
5:08 ''Thanks to the Baltic States surrounding it not only becoming independant'' We didn't ''become'' independent, but restored our independance.
I don't remember exactly if it was Denmark or UK, but instead of recognizing Baltic independence, they just re-opened their embassies and considered that the countries had "de jure" existed ever since 1918 or so.
Baltic independence was 1918 not 1990. Also, prior to that, in ancient history, Balts were free.
вас при Петре первом тупо выкупили у шведов за два миллиона ефимков (56 тонн серебра). кому ты сейчас будешь рассказывать про независимость? во времена шведской оккупации любого местного чухонца могли завалить забавы ради без каких либо последствий ибо за людей не считали. ваша "независимость" это когда развалилась Российская империя и власть захватили нацисткие прихвостни, поэтому вас так сильно корёжит от всего русского.
"We didn't ''become'' independent, but restored our independance."
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Not really. The "independent" political class banks at tropical banks owned by Greek oligarchs, same as here in Bulgaria. You are now Greek colonies of the Greek Empire aka "the West".
@@julianpetkov8320 i think you forgot to drink your meds
Can't believe that a video on Kaliningrad makes no mention of the Suwalski gap!
Can't have a Suwalki gap if you draw Belarus as part of the EU!
@@HansLemurson Maybe after Lukashenko meets his doom.
@@HansLemurson Russia's little pupper state has a loooong way to go before it can even think about asking for a seat at the grown ups table.
@@nuru666maybe, but the fact that there was so much anti-Russian sabotage in there during the beginning of the “Special Military Operation” and pro-democracy protests shows some promise.
It was never Kaliningrad in the first place, its true name is Königsberg and always will be!
Three cheers for Kant!
Samland is also a historic correct option for the upcoming 4th Baltic state.
The peninsula where the Hanzestad Köningsberg was build is called Samland.
Samland comes from the latin Sambia and was used by the German Teutonic order in the early middle ages who founded Köningsberg.
Scholars think that name comes from a Germanic tribe the Semben who once lived there and spread out into the Baltic region.
Ofcourse Köningsberg will be the capital of the new Baltic state Samland.
pluto is still a planet
Reject Russia, return to Prussia.
Nope
Excuse me, Kaliningrad was never an exclave of the Soviet Union since Belarus, Lituania, Latvia, Estonia were all part of it.
Kaliningrad was an oblast within the Russian SSR, unlike Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, which were their own SSRs. Thus, Kaliningrad was an exclave even in Soviet times--not an exclave of the USSR, but an exclave of the Russian SSR. Its status as a subdivision of the Russian SSR kept it from negotiating as an independent entity when the USSR broke up, whereas the other locations you mentioned had the correct status to secede during the break up.
@@MyFiddlePlayer there was never a Russia SSR. It was Russian SFSR.
lol you don't know what you're talking about.
Just FYI, Królewiec is a historical name of the main city there (in the polish language). Soviets changed the original name to Kaliningrad in 1946 to honor Mikhail Kalinin, who was a war criminal, one of the people directly responsible for ordering the Katyń massacre (where Russians executed 22000 Polish officers and intelligentsia prisoners of war).
So basically, here in Poland we decided we prefer the old name instead. Russians are still completely free to call it whatever they want - we don't care, we will use our name instead. To be honest, it is kind of funny, that this name change bothered some of them that much.
Generalgouvernement moment
Soviets Union is not Russia, so you not true to say Russians killed committed the massacre. Stalin was giving the orders, and he was a Georgian Jew. He murdered many Slavs including Russians on a grand scale. He enabled communist occupation of Serbia. Many covert agendas where present there, and all of them anti- slav.
Soviets Union is not Russia, so you not true to say Russians killed committed the massacre. Stalin was giving the orders, and he was a Georgian JW. He murdered many Slavs including Russians on a grand scale. He enabled communist occupation of Serbia. Many covert agendas where present there, and all of them anti- slav.
Soviets Union is not Russia, so you not true to say Russians killed committed the massacre. Stalin was giving the orders, and he was a Georgian J. He cause the deaths many Slavs including Russians on a grand scale. He enabled communist occupation of Serbia. Many covert agendas where present there, and all of them anti- slav.
Soviets Union is not Russia, so you not true to say Russians killed committed the massacre. Stalin was giving the orders, and he was a Georgian J. He cause the deaths many Slavs including Russians on a grand scale. 111111111121211212121212
Królewiec just means Königsberg in Polish
Karaliaucius in Lithuanian
Poland, Lithuania and Prussia have legitimate historical claims to Królewiec/Karaliaucius/Königsberg. Russia, on the other hand, has no legitimate historical claim to Królewiec/Karaliaucius/Königsberg.
@@ettoreatalan8303 The city can stay as an independent city/state having similar status to Monaco. It is not necessary for any country to subjugate the area under own jurisdiction. But leaving Russia and gaining the independence would be a very welcomed move.
I used the "Translate to English" feature and it became "Königsberg just means Königsberg in Polish". 👍
The Poles are getting uppity and looking to seize more Lebensraum anywhere they can but this territory is rightful Baltic clay and always will be. Lithuania, not Poland, should get it.
1:27 Königsberg was an important city in Prussia and the Prussian kings were crowned there. Königsberg was under Prussian control since the 17th century. Königsberg/Kaliningrad wasn´t independent since the middle ages.
KALININGRAD WAS POLAND KROLEWIEC FOR 400 YEARS ON AND OFF AS WE FOUGHT TOUTHENIC KNIGHTS , SWEDEN AND RUSSIA TO KEEP IT !
Why did the producer avoid discussing Belarus, and the Suwalski Gap altogether?
Probably because its useless topic, anyone who has even a slightest idea of military tactics, knows, belarus just cant close gap without Poland and rest of NATO turning enclave into desert. Russia is unable to resupply it without NATO allowing to do so, hell even there fleet cant exit harbor without being in range of shore fired anti ship missles.
Because the video was not about Belarus, and/or The Suwalski Gap.
The video was about Kaliningrad.
Low quality video. It repeatedly references an independence movement in Kaliningrad based on a single internet poll conducted by activists. That is ridiculous.
People simply cannot see the number of Russian population in Kaliningrad
@@user-vj6cy1yp1h That is right, but I've heard repetitively Russians from Kaliningrad feeling estranged from Moscow. They are for all to see. There are more than one. If you're Russian, you are in a better position than me to evaluate their points. They are not from Poland or from the Baltics. You'd better watch it for yourself. I'm only an observer.
I was there a few weeks ago. Lots of "спасибо деду за победу" stickers on peoples vehicles. They keep up the lutheran cathedral and the kant museum pretty well, but it is a very Russian city with some old German architecture.
this poll could have been conducted in kiev
yeah a fake online poll that can easily and completely be faked and organised by NGOs financed by the NATO and EU.
13:48 Crimea didn't go to Ukraine when the Soviet Union collapsed: it had already been part of Ukraine for decades.
A russian gave that land as gift for soviet russia
Based Khrushchev
@@darknessnight1115 bASED kRESCHEV? uuh ok, there was no mechanism of transferring land from one republic to another, it was unconstitutional.
@@DavidStickney You forgot to change your VPN, Vlad
@@utvm6748
1:40 In fact, Prussia, with its capital in Königsberg and then Berlin, absorbed the rest of Germany to form the German Empire - the Second Reich.
Lest we forget that Imperial Germany's national anthem (1871 - 1945) openly declared its "Maas to Memel, Friesen to Belt" frontiers within Continental Europe.
@@FacebookHistory-ui7tw Yes, they were a little to happy to include Danish land (Belt) in their territory.
Hot take. People are wrong when they say the Baltic states are the weakest to defend. Despite the fact that they have relatively small militaries. They’re equipped with modern weapons and gear. And receive top training. If Russia were to try an invasion they’d be able to hold them off. Finland and Sweden reinforces this region too and with all of Scandinavia in NATO, Finland could bring the fight to Russia and help reinforce the Baltics quickly along with Poland (a country I think would defeat Russia on its own) with the rest of NATO involved, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Denmark would be able to cut Kaliningrad off, it would be easily overrun by NATO forces.
Russia is an artillery nation. No amount of training and gear will protect Baltic States from a literal rain of artillery shells. Russians will reduce everything in range near their border to rubble, advance to a new position and repeat. By a very conservative estimate they manufacture 2.4 million shells a year. Baltic States' only hope is that NATO intervenes fast enough.
Echo your thoughts. Baltics, Finland and Poland wouldn't relent and I think it would be NATO holding them by their reigns.
All the bullying vibes from Putin would be futile.
Slava Ukrain
Speed bump
just javelins from finland and their anti-navy is, you're never sure, combine that with estonia, and your fleet is dead when it moves
Also, don't forget the naval supremacy NATO has and the geographical advantage of a potential russian-scandinavian-baltic frontline. There won't be a war between nato and russia. Russia know if they attack NATO it's over.
War...not special military operation...
They also kept calling it a "crisis". Ick.
@3xster777hahahahaha, who told you that? That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Did you just make that "rule" up?
@3xster777 Half a million dead and wounded Orcs makes it a war. Its like calling Iraq vs Iran a "border skirmish".
It’s not a war. Russia didn’t declare war and doesn’t want to invade Ukraine. They just want to free the Donbas from the Ukrainian oppression. Do you know that 80% of the eastern Ukraine people are Russians ? Now if Ukraine continues to bombard Russia then yes it will become a war.
@3xster777144mil soldiers. Imagine newborn with a gun at the front. Women kids children newborns disabled old.
This channel is good at one thing: making factual errors ; no, thank you
It's time to do what Putin likes to do. Kaliningrad should take a vote on becoming independent.
Nah it shouldn't
Little green men => referendum => People's Republic of Königsberg => Independence from Russia.😂
@@riversandrdsin some ways it might be far too much of a headache for Poland or Lithiania to manage due to all the Russians living there
@@chiapets2594 Yeah, it should.
You can rest assured that there is way more chance of southern states in USA to vote to become independent before Kaliningrad would even entertain such idea.
To have a feeling for the cultural history of Königsberg, google Kant, Regiomontanus, and Euler. Feel free to extend the list.
If thousands of Poles moved there, could they hold a referendum to join Poland?
15:16 Nice to see that Yulia Tymoshenko is now also called Viktor Yushchenko, makes history a lot easier to remember 😆 On a more serious note though; good informative video, but you could pay a bit more attention to (historical) details, as you can see in the comments.
All depends upon the aftermath of the Ukraine mess to put it mildly. Simply put, if Ukraine prevails and Kaliningrad goes independent it will not happen, but if they/Ukraine loose all of the Baltic states are at risk.
so you rly think that russia will attack baltik states? you ppl are deluded
@petarpewtrovic7266 they are being brainwashed with what the establishment wants them to know. Not like they're thinking for themselves atp and that's the scary part
@@petarpewtrovic7266 just narva
no that's not how it works buddy
@@petarpewtrovic7266 why wouldn't they attack the Baltics?
Lmao, what? I'm living in Kaliningrad and i never even heard even a hint from people about "independence"... autor don't know what he is talking about🤦♂
Они тут с утра поделить не могут кому что, такие планы настроили, клоуны.
Yes comrade. Go claim your potato.
He took a single online poll done by activists and said "clear answer" like it was fact and just ran with it. I don't understand how this channel is so big when the creator bases his analyses off of bullshit.
At least call it a hypothetical scenario. Done watching tbh because I doubt this is the first time he's pulled "facts" out of his ass.
@@spamcan9208 cheap propoganda imo
@@ptonpc No comrade first go claim ur brain
Part of the family on my dad's side immigrated from Poland to the US and some of the family that remained are Russian-Lithuanian (they mean Lithuanians from Kaliningrad basically). Kaliningrad has always been extremely interesting to me as it's literally an area of land that no one wanted after the breakup of the Soviets due to the amount of Russians there
Its gonna be called Königsberg again in near future, believe me
Transnistria is another unresolved remnant of the Soviet Union that is a ticking time bomb.
Transnistria is internationally recognised as part of Moldova. If the Russians don't like it they can bugger off. Anyway Transnistria is isolated between NATO to the west and Ukraine to the east.
@@rogerphelps9939 Russia is using Transnistria as an excuse to station 1500 troops there and supports the claim that the Soviet Transnistrian government is the legitimate government of Moldova. You can bet your boots that if Russia ever gains control of the Odessa region they will declare the Moldovan government as illegitimate, and march "peacekeepers" in there to "liberate" Moldova. That is why it is a ticking time bomb. Putin is just waiting for his chance there.
I'm not so concerned about it, it's a landlocked ministate that can't be supplied by russia and would last weeks at best before running out of supplies in a war. I don't see anything happening there anytime soon.
There is another joker in this that the video forgot to mention, Lukashenko. Russia doesn't actually have a border with Lithuania at all. They'll have to either go through Latvia or Belarus and Latvia is a NATO member and just as pro-western as Lithuania.
Lukashenko is usually regarded as a loyal servant to Putin but that is not true. He has shown several times that he has his own agenda and getting dragged into a conflict between Russia and NATO is the last thing he wants; he'll be stuck between a rock and a hard place and no matter the outcome, he'll be certain to lose.
The Belarusian population is not as enthusiastic about Putin and his henchmen as many Russians, quite the opposite.
the citizens of Belarus have also always seemed unhappy with him
Lukashenko is an NPC.
@@burp2019 Because your news shows it as such?
@@kishanchali8752 hello ivan
Thx for this. It's very informative. I hope Kaliningrad can gain its independence. But thanks even more to the comments by many who know it all very well.
No mentioning of the Suwałki Gap and Belarus.
That remainds me when in winter olympics 2012 opening ceremony in sochi(russia) when projecting maps of countries entering arena Russians marked Kaliningrad as part of Poland :P
Independence or joining a nearby nation, Königsberg will not remain Russian.
what you going to do with all russian population there? there are completely no poles, germans or lithuanians there i must remind you
@@nothintoshow Deportation.
@@borali26how german of you.
@@borali26 after or before syrians and other Africans and Arabs from EU?
@@lapiscenturion Where did the original population end up after ww2? Oh, right. Russia deported them. How German of russia. Then again many russians have been found with nazi tattoos so that is also a bit German of them I guess.
The North/East European question was already settled by the peace of Brest Litowsk.
Germany defeated the Russians in 1918 and the resulting peace granted independence for Finnland and Ukraine, and self determination for the Baltic States.
It is just such that London later nullified the peace of Brest Litowsk.
During WWII the allies supported Russia and London even declared war on the Finns.
London promised even to surrender Baltic gold to Russia, what they actually did.
In the 1990s London needed to purchase gold to give the Baltic states their gold.
London caused this all, and the trouble persists !
Over here we still refer to it as Königsberg with the exception of politicians and the press. And since the admission of Sweden and Finland into NATO the sea called NATO-sea. It is translated so if anyone is going to blow a casket and telling me about how the English is NATO lake get a clue i am not English.
Brilliant summary of the immediate history. But the west was duty bound to defend Ukraine due to the Budapest agreement where the west guaranteed Ukrainian territorial integrity in exchange for its old soviet nukes. The west failed that agreement, so you can excuse me for being sceptical of the effectiveness of article 5.
America not making due on their promises has nothing to do with NATO's article 5...
Please don't be that type of person that thinks America runs NATO or "the west", it couldn't be further from the truth these days.
It was not the west but only few states gave some kind of assurance. But there was no formal treaty.
No. Unfortunately Ukraine is not a NATO member so Article 5 does not apply. I am sure that not all NATO states would respond if Russia invaded the Baltic states. The important thing is, however, that the members of NATO that count most certainly would respond and Putin would be met with overwhelming force, no nukes required.
at 1:14 you are showing a painting of battle of Grunvald by Jan Matejko. Why???
Very enlightening to an Australian who has been to Tallinn on a cruise and didn't have a complete handle on the situation.
It was named Královec. It was named after czech king Přemysl Otakar II. who led the crusades.
So kaliningrad should be czech. Which makes beer stream 1 possible
Well, it was either built by Přemysl Otakar II (he had it built, of course) or in his honor, so it had nothing to do with comrade Mikhail Kalinin who was one of the people responsible for the Katyn massacre.
You know Moscow is losing it when a simple name change in internal documents presents "an aggressive act"… :)
Well it is.....
That is exactly the tactics they use themselves.....
You can't bullshit a bullshitter 😂
Can you post a news link to this referendum? I searched on the net but couldn't find anything.
No worries, by 2027, American Hegemony will no more exist))))))))
@@kishanchali8752 It doesn't exist and it was an online referendum!!!!!!
@@yadayadayadayadayadayada777 why so specific
I would like to see " a world without russia" episode
You might want to see such an episode, but you most certainly don't want to experience it.
Whatever they told you how bad the Russians and their communism is, a country like that doesn't just implode without making a noise.
If Russia was a bank, it would be considered to big to fail and the whole world would band together to save said bank.
Unfortunately geopolitics work different from economics. But the interdependencies are the same....
Or "a world without Israel" or "a world without India" It would be same useless video. Full of bs and wishful thinking
Russia will never just disappear. its had two governmental collapses in the last 110 years.
@@Kingcobra6699 Ich spreche Deutsch jetzt!
The Russian folk tale, fisherman and a golden fish, at the end, the fisherman and his greedy and ugly old wife still living in their dilapidated hut by their icy ocean.
During peacetime there was a timid trade between Kaliningrad and neighboring states.
But now Kaliningrad is isolated and dependent on supplies from Moscow.
The last 'issue ' we had started in Danzig.
Will the next 'issue ' start in Konigsberg?
Ironic such a small area carries big issues.
Is that Stellaris music in the background?
As of 15:14 something is wrong. Why is the photo of that woman labeled with the same info as the man above ?
Just a lack of reviewing the video and leaving the error there.
❤ you're the first to mention Sebastopol problem
Konigsberg was part of Prussia (German) at least as far back as 1700s, becoming Russian at end of ww2.
Konigsberg/Kaliningrad has such a fascinating history, but this premise of being independent and inciting WWlll is conjecture and hyperbole. The oblast is a massive Russian military installation. As a nuclear weapons sentry over Europe, it has strategic importance. Remember, it was heavily re-populated with ethnic Russians, after forced removal of pre-Soviet citizens. Climate change and the largest fleet of ice breakers insure that the sea lanes to St.Petersberg are active. One hopes that Kaliningrad might find a free status in respect to Europe, and be demilitarized, but Russian must internally lose control for it to flip to Europe.
Wow, I sure can't believe your poll on Kaliningrad from 2023. Allegiance to Russia is very strong. Yes, I live here in the Russian enclave. I wonder what this site is really intending.
@@user-pz6ls4uk8k мечтают вернуть калиниград, но вероятнее калининград вернёт их в каменный век (ядерное оружие), Мда ряльно удивляешься как в это вообще можно поверить
@@user-pz6ls4uk8k Kiedy Królewiec był w granicach Niemiec, było to nieustanne źródło wojen w Europie, pogardy i nienawiści w stosunku do Słowian, zwłaszcza w latach 1795 -1945.
This video is conveying information. Sorry there is no Russian equivalent for that word.
Kaliningrad would be tough for Russia to take it back if they ever got independence. They have no land connection, The Baltic is now a NATO lake, and they could also close the airspace. We can
The importance of Kaliningrad to Russia is mainly the Suwalki gap, giving Russia an easy cut-off of the Baltic States in event of a conflict. Remember, the entire point of the Russian aggression is to create buffers around it - it's not like they have actual business in the Baltic Sea. But now, the admission of Finland into NATO has changed that IMMENSELY, since the Baltic states now easily can be supplied from the north (and northwest). This means Kaliningrad now is not much different than Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania was when they were getting ready to secede. PR-wise no Russian president would probably ever be fine with Kaliningrad seceding, but in reality there is not much there to hold on to any longer.
wdym they dont have any actual business in the baltic sea? Economic reasons maybe? Hello?
If Kaliningrad tells putin to f*ck off, i would love to see his next speech because he would be falling apart internally. Quite possibly see him losing his grip on power.
Chechnya, Belgorad, Dagestan, North Ossetia -- all have tried to leave Russia. Everything from Siberia east would also likely be happy leave Moscow's control.
If Konigs left, some of those others would be pushing harder to leave. Konigs has an advantage that it is detached from Pooty and is attached to NATO. The others are attached to Pooty and not next to NATO.
Russia won't have the money for reparations at the end of the "Special Military Operation." As partial payment it should cede Kaliningrad to the EU.
😂😂 delusional
In cost of payments we always can deliver you one or two Sarmats. I heard about some energy problems in Europe recently. Hope produced by them will be enough for your greediness.
for that Russia needs to loose and so far it seems like Ukraine is only winning in delusional youtube videos and tiktok, while on the ground the situation is drastically different
@@user-eh3gw8fc6e Hope is better made with kindness. One will catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Just think how much better off Russia would be if all that money trying to kill imaginary Nazis was spent helping Russian people.
Special delivery for your payment will come hypersonically, armchair hero!
Very informative 👍
I can't think of a single reason why the people of Kaliningrad (Konigsberg) will want to remain attached to Russia. And if Putin was an effective leader, he'd ask himself why?
Interesting and a bit scary how history seems to repeat itself. Access to Königsberg through the Polish corridor was one of the main points of contention that led to WW2.
I love how the comments always gives more than the actual video. Great job! Norwegian here, we have had ties woth Prussia since the 15 hundreds. I all for it becoming independent ❤
Why did you leave Poland out of the NATO article 5 response?
or other European NATO members
Most of the ones mentioned are countries with nukes on their territory.
Poland is at 21st place of military power
Left Canada out as well
@@paprukas
For now.
They are rearming fast.
an unofficial online poll can be easily rigged
I bet it was supervised by the EU and multiple "NGO"s" (which mostly belong to the CIA), so, you see, all clear, ya conspiracy theorist !
as easily as Russian voting system
@@algirdasnausedas324?? Russians clearly voted for Putin that’s not even what they mean when they say he rigs the elections.
What they mean is that he arrested his opponents, I don’t see why you believe the russian election problem would be the same as the American
@@algirdasnausedas324 ... or American, or European ..... ( just saying)
@@culmalachie Everything is possible, but checks are better done in western countries. Result - Russia has same president for over 20 years who has changed country's constitution to stay in power and assassinated or jailed opposition while west isn't at that level
Kaliningrad's importance is very much reduced as the Baltic Sea with Sweden and Finland's membership of NATO has become a NATO inlet. A Russian naval base in Kaliningrad can't change that but will be a resource drain for Russia. For symbolic reasons Kaliningrad is unlikely to gain anything resembling indepenfdence on this side of a decidely Russian collapse and the West probably has limited interest in obligations to support a "reconstruction" of an independent Kaliningrad. Even the fields are overgrown.
Kaliningrad is certainly a trigger for WWIII, I could see activity in that region causing Putin to become even more irrational.
*'OBLAST' is the sound an Atomic bomb makes*
As a Lithuanian, I appreciate this content. Please make more. Ačiū labai. ❤
You guys seems to be standing in the wrong location :-/
What country do you live in now, Lithuanian?
On Poland's "renaming" of the place, I'm surprised nobody dares to bring up the rules of Polish Grammar. One of them is very clear and simple - "if a place has a historically established, native Polish name, you use that name when speaking or writing in Polish, not the original". This is why, in Polish you use "Paryż" not "Paris", "Londyn" not "London", "Akwizgran" not "Aachen", "Mediolan" not "Milano", "Królewiec" not "Kaliningrad", "Kijów" not "Kyiv". Each of these names has seen at least several hundred years of use in Polish Language, so existance of such localized name and the insistance it be used in official Polish-Language documentation is not a sign of agression, but just common sense.
Kaliningrad gaining independence would be a blow to Russia as it would no longer have a year round accessible Baltic port in spite of the current travel restrictions as well as possibly encouraging other oblasts such as Bashkortostan and Karelia to seek independence which could trigger a domino effect in the dismantlement of the Russia Federation.
It is just not going to happen. It will remain under russian control. You are better dela with this reality.
@@angeurbain6129 I'm sure Gorbachev and other Soviet leaders felt the same way about the Soviet Union until Estonia said good bye in 1988 paving the way for other national republics to do the same. Never discount unsatisfied people in large numbers.
@@SammywiseG The Kaliningrad enclave is not Estonia and Russia is not the Soviet-Union.
@@angeurbain6129 Konigs will leave Russia - the only question is when. Currently, Pooty is decimating the police forces all over to send them on meat runs in Ukraine. At some point Konigs people will realize that there is not longer a Moscow-Pooty force keeping them "in-line" with Pooty. At that point, they can leave. Pooty can't do much about it since he can't get anything there without going out at St Pete through NATO lake. And, Pooty is running out of planes, ships, boats, trains, oil refineries, manufacturing equipment, and more.
Chechnya, Belgorad, Dagestan, North Ossetia -- all have tried to leave Russia and likely will again and again until they leave.
Everything from Siberia east would also likely be happy leave Moscow's control.
@@boomergames8094If there is a better example of Danning-Kruger effect in context of Russian geopolitics somewhere, the search for it would make for a multi-million fundraised scrutiny. Not only there is no popular national idea in any monoethnic Russian regions that includes secession from Russian state, the liberalistic voters themselves are by most part dispersed in dense and rich European cities like Krasnodar, E-burg, and St. Petersburg. The further the territory is from European half of the country, the lesser are level of support for opposition. The national identity of "small peoples" has been entangled with the idea of being under the umbrella of a Russian state for centuries and the numbers of supporters for independent movements for those nations is extremely low, and mostly is tied up with strong anti-Putin stance. For baptized Christian peoples of Chuvashia, Udmurtia (the HQ place of Kalashnikov military corportaion) and Mordovia the separatist movements are pretty much non-existent. Unless the immediate sanctions lift and tremendous Western financial investment will take place, any secession of Russian region mentioned (except from Chechnya) will result in a fail state with separate national identity too vague and uncertain for any nation to survive. Such scenario is predetermined by history, demographics and geopolitical juxtaposition.
I worked with a guy who was from here, the local Russian population call it Konigs, not Kalingrad. Around 30% of the population wanted to separate from Russia before 2022.
dude, you were deceived, don't believe everything that is written on the Internet.) Kaliningrad is forever Russia
A giant misconception of the entire video is that Kaliningrad citizens long for Germany. The overwhelming majority of those people who wish to secede and become German say this because they think that becoming a German region will immediately improve their life conditions as if in a finger's snap. They do not possess German cultural identity like DDR which even after 35 years haven't completely catched up with West Germany's life standarts. I know no Kaliningrad separatists with any sort of national identity, only a handful that wish to secede so they can "live like Germans". And DDR example shows that this is by most part a impulsive delusion.
@@SovietUnior No. It is an unnatural wart on the face of Europe. Russia will lose it and will be powerless to stop it.
@@aita45 Wrong. The fall of he DDR and German reunification has overwhelmingly been good. Nobody wants to bring the DDR back.
@@rogerphelps9939 The people of the GDR clearly disagree with you. Yes, they wanted unification, but they certainly didn't want an unfair annexation by FRG
There is a typing error at 15:00 where the name of the persons are the same. Great video, thanks.
The baltic war seems very unlikely, much more likely scenario would be Russia becoming so weak Kaliningrad gets their independence without a fight. So welcome Kaliningrad to become a free country 🥳
wasn't it the place of German philosopher Immanuel Kant?
He is buried next to the Cathedral (shown almost all the time in the video).
"german" or Prussian?
@@Lechoslaw8546 of German language? I mean, his works is in German.
@@bonbon_ann2701 Immanuel Kant is Russian philosopher and Kaliningrad celebrate "Kant's day" every year
@@strodion2105 Immanuel Kant was actually of German descent, not Russian. He was born in 1724 in Königsberg, which was part of Prussia, a German state at the time. Although Königsberg is now called Kaliningrad and is part of Russia, it was culturally and politically German during Kant's lifetime. He wrote all his major philosophical works in German and was a professor at the University of Königsberg. The confusion might stem from the modern location of his birthplace, but during his life, Kant was very much a figure of the German Enlightenment.
The fact that Kaliningrad is now part of Russia is due to later historical changes long after Kant's death.
Independence for Kaliningrad!
No kaliningrad for lithuania!
@@athercarrot nah for the Teutonic order
About as much chance as pigs flying.
Make Japan independent, first, ok?
IF Any COUNTRY HOSTING FORGIVERS MILLITARY BASES, where Politicians with Out of Honour taking Bribes, THAT COUNTRIES ARE NOT FREE.
How about the people of Kalingrad vote for independence and then collectively sell the whole place to Poland or to NATO countries in general to populate with their own people and then the people of Kalingrad can use the money from the sale to all retire comfortably and live out their days by the sea in inexpensive warm places such as Thailand and Sri Lanka?
That would solve the problem that Poland and other Eastern European countries don't want to take in a new territory which has lots of Russian people.
I'm speaking 98% tongue in cheek.
But there is still that other 2%.
excellent report
Prussia started near köningsbergen, as a west baltic tribe called prusen
It's a tough question. On one hand Kaliningrad from what I know is heavily dependant on Russian resources to function properly, which does not really lend itself to freeing themselves from Russia. However that does imply that the trouble of freeing themselves is worse than keep taking the pain of remaining part of Russia. If Kaliningrad is going broke paying for the Kremlin's campaign in Ukraine and if the Russian economy is going down the drain then it would be much better for the people to go for independence regardless of the trouble. They have the unique advantage of Russia not going to be able to do a whole lot against them as they can't send ground troops overland and the Black Sea fleet would lose a lot of its effectiveness nearly instantenously due to losing their warm water port. Not to mention if Latvia or Poland help them by giving them weapons, food,... then I find it highly unlikely Russia would be able to threaten Kaliningrad for long with the Black Sea Fleet.
Kaliningrad has nothing to do with the black sea fleet, and nothing even points towards it wanting independence, I dont get these claims. Look at their election results. Not to mention everybody is Russian there.
Yep and extra
Yep, and it is small enough that they could be bought out. The GDP is listed as $10 Billion and average per person is $10,000. Hand each of them $15,000 and a lot would be happy to join the allies.
But why would Kaliningrad want independence? Being part of Russia is a sense of security aswell as they provide protection and would be easily occupied by hostile western states if that was not the case.
@@ak-od7mf Security? Russia? Hahahahah. They can get independence, then join the EU, Eurozone, NATO, etc. and become part of the cool kids club. Even Germany joined the cool kids club this time.
The GDP of Konigs is $10B. The average person makes $10k. The unemployment in the EU is more than that.
Interesting what will be the effect of the referendum questioning secession, if it will be announced in Gdansk (Danzig)??
2:17 - "Kaliningrad essentially funcitoned as an exclave of the Soviet Union" - this is nonsense. An excalve is separated physically from the state it belongs to by an international land border with another state. Kaliningrad was continguous with the rest of the Soviet Union
Sheeesh. The basis of this video is an internet poll made on dissident website?
I guess there is a reason why the video author did not state how many participants from the exclave voted.
Yet when such vote happens within Russia, like when the president (re)elects, I guess he doesn't recognise such «vote». But not when it's about Kaliningrád
@@worldoftancraft
Orcssia never had democracy, so no.
Why should we recognize it.
You should look up the survey. It will almost certainly be more reliable than Russian "elections".
Map is wrong as it shows Belarus as part of Nato, when it is a vassal of Russia.
Throughout the cold war, Kaliningrad was seen by modelers as the most dangerous flashpoint for a nuclear exchange.
Very well done video
I was born in Kaliningrad and I have no idea what that guy was smoking but I have watched only the first five minutes and already am throughly disappointed by the sheer misinformation about my beloved motherland. First of all, it was the capital of Prussia. Secondly, after the start of the war in Ukraine despite Kaliningrad already generally being very in support of the Russian government- the sanctions from the eu and Lithuania practically closing the boarder for the Russian citizens only pushed the population further into becoming more radical in support of the Russian government. So ‘Latest demonstration of the strength of the movement within Kaliningrad to separate from Russia’ my ass. Stop the bs with the fake polls.
fake, fake, only pravda says pravda, because pravda means troot. 3 days Kiev, 6 secods Warsaw
😂🤡
This is NATO's 3am dream
Review your story, old man. But not through the official channel of Putin, but of real historians. Already you should be ashamed of being bombarded with disinformation from your Master Thinking Vladimir. Moreover, the inevitable victory of Ukraine will inevitably profoundly change the mentality of the inhabitants of this small enclave which will no longer have any interest!
@@kolakpatolik1857cry about it
LOL, cope harder.
NATO can little greenmen too.
This is not a informative video, just strange fantasies , mixed with a small drop of true facts...
What has not been mentioned here is that on July 2, 1990, the Russian government sent a telex to the governments of the GDR and FRG offering to negotiate the purchase of Kaliningrad.
hey did not want it but that does not mean that should remain part of Russia.
Don't know if this is valid but Lithuania could allow Russian supporters in Königsberg to travel through their land eastwards only on a permanent relocation to Russia. The majority Königsberg independence supporters could apply social pressures on the Russians to take full advantage of this right to eastern travel. Perhaps giving them a good state-funded deal on properties they leave behind.
2:40 there will be no 'independent' circuit. We don't need a new Transnistria here. The oblast will be divided between Poland and Lithuania - if Russia loses the war, or at least completely demilitarised.
You mean "WHEN russia loses this war"@ putin is afraid now
@@Steve-gx9ot you might want to update yourself on the war kid, this isnt 2022 anymore, its not looking that bright for ukraine atm...
I wonder what the people living in Kaliningrad feel about the whole situation in Europe and what Russia is doing. If they feel like they are part of Europe or if they support Russia's invasion and can't wait to be liberated by the Russian forces attacking the Sulvalky gap to make a landbridge between Kaliningrad and Russia.
Kaliningrad is like a miniature North Korea in the middle of Europe so not much information gets out.
DRPK (Democratic People's Republic of Königsberg).
Heres why I dont think Konigsberg will be a catalyst for WWIII.
1. Konigsberg is not Russian, it was captured territory taken by the USSR in 1945. The people and culture are not Russian and are ethnically more Polish, German or Lithuanian than Russian
2. The people of Konigsberg are increasing wanting to separate from Russia.. The is a strong independence/unification movement there.
3. The Ukrainian war has gutted the defenses of Konigsberg to a fraction. They used to have 100,000 troops there, now its 25000 and they are not Russian but Lithianian home guard units. I dont think they have any real loyality to Russia.
4. Even if a war did break out, there would be no way for Russia to supply it. They would have to cross all the way across the Baltic (getting shot at by NATO troops from muliple directions) or by sea in which they would have to get around the heavily defended Gotland Island. Sweden has Submarines patrolling night and day, andy Russian supply/troop ship to Konigsberg would be sunk.
So if NATO wanted to invade and occupy Konigsberg I dont think there would be much Russia could do about it.
An interesting vid, thanks for the insight, f#%king scary though...
Very interesting info.
Kaliningrad is not West Berlin. There is no four party partition agreement that obligates free transit and services for the oblast. Without ground transit and over-flight agreements with NATO, the exclave could slowly shrivel-up and collapse from within. Despite the large percentage of Russian speakers, allegiances to Moscow are thin and with the deportation of the remaining military and FSB agents, it may become the future home for diaspora reunions.
Thats just a lot of nonsense.
Im sure that the independence movement is pro west. Soo dont worry
Another case of wishful thinking. Keep dreaming, but be careful - you may lose connection to reality.
You are wrong. Baltic states do have an agreement with Russia to allow transit to Kaliningrad. They have actually tried to break that agreement in 2022, and Russia simply informed that in that case it would simply revoke recognition of their independence. After that situation "normalized".
Where is all this nonsense coming from.......
Weird how when a Russian Enclave does a poll they're not allowed to act on it but its completely fine for Putin to declare a vote legal in a country he doesnt "own". Come on Kaliningrad. poke he bear. Ask everyone to help you and then tell the dictator you are breaking free.
You have discovered Putin's double standards. There are many more double standards in Russia, e.g., hating the West but using Western products.
Putin has a *huge* table. He is convinced, that he can do whatever he wants because he has the *BIGGEST* table.
@@viper_fanlol, you'd need a long range missile to get to the other end.
@@viper_fan Can you post a news link to this referendum? I searched on the net but couldn't find anything.
@@kishanchali8752 That's a fake.
Königsberg can't be Ukraine 2.0, it's just way too small. The AA defense doesn't have enough buffer to operate effectively. Being surrounded by NATO, Königsberg would fall extremely quickly, even if it had some tunnel or a teleport to mainland russia.
Europe should offer all residents of Kaliningrad/Konigsburg a free Mediterranian holiday. Two weeks of beach, good food, friendship, and freedom should relax things and sway opinions. Cheaper than military action.
There is a beach there, as well as good food 😃
How many brave people here! It's easy, if you are in Australia or New Zealand.
Come and try to get.
Mad cuz bad?
Hello Mr. Russian troll 👋
it's just matter of time
Hope they be free and have a own State!
Let them choose a new name ....
@@ananamu2248 Exact my opinum.
I hope they go home to Russia and Königsberg becomes free.
@@peterfireflylund That is their home. you can continue dreaming if you want..
@@peterfireflylund It is home for many Russians. As it was home for famous Russian Scientist Immanuel Kant
"It'd all going according to plan." Sadly for Putler, it's a bad plan.
"No one escapes divine justice, Putin!"
At this point it doesn't make sense for it to be part of Russia. It should become part of Poland.
Really interesting.