🖖STAR TREK TNG 3x3-4 The Survivors | Who Watches the Watchers REACTION
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00:10 Star Trek TNG S3 Ep 2 The Survivors Commentary
18:26 Star Trek TNG S3 Ep 4 Who Watches the Watchers Commentary
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From this season on the writing gets really good. By this season the show had come into its own finally escaping the shadow of the TOS
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase, usually traslated as 'Who will watch the watchmen?' and is generally quoted regarding matters of power, authority, misuse, corruption and accountability. It is of course, also the core theme of Alan Moore's 'Watchmen' and Edgar Wright's 'Hot Fuzz.'
If you really are interested in religious philosophy, then please watch Dogma starring Alan Rickman.
"If you're gonna believe in a god, it might as well be Picard." Your logic is flawless.
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Sounds like a good candidate for a Wisdom Nugget to me!
Nice one Kevin I agree 💯 🙌@@kevinlewallen4778
@@kevinlewallen4778 It's been a long time since we've seen the Jen's Wisdom Nuggets. I miss them.
@@JJ_W I miss them too. But it sounds like Jen has put them in the rearview mirror. Some of us continue to glean fun Jen statements from the vids and tag them in the comments.
The immortal being is even sadder when you learn that his real life wife had just died before he did this scene
Do you mean the actor, Kevin Uxbridge? I believe his wife had died the year before. It certainly added emotion to the scene.
John Anderson was the actor, this episode first aired on October 9, 1989, and his wife (Patricia Cason) passed on February 18, 1989. Either way, great actor (character actor known for Gunsmoke, MacGyver, and M*A*S*H to name a few) who would definitely had drawn from his loss.
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“Good tea, nice house” is something my friends and I used to say all the time.
That's too awesome!
Has the quality of tea really decreased this much since then?
@@eskreskao No, we would say it about anything we liked. Just one of our many often-quoted lines from TNG while it was originally airing.
I've always liked that line
@@jabecker21 I think you're missing the joke he's making in regards to how you said "used to" :)
"Are they all dead? Oh God. She's in a completely different outfit" That, all said in one breath, is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
This is when TNG started telling their own stories and not just rehashing the TOS scripts that Gene had in mind for Star Trek Phase II. And the actors found their footing for their characters.
Troi anguishing over the music box song in her head is basically me when that Mariah Carey Christmas song comes on.
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"All I want for Kot'baval, is you..."
That Paul McCartney song is the worse one for me!! 😂🤣
The plot for Who Watches the Watchers was soo good that the studio just did the same plot again in Star Trek: Insurrection
Just with a different twist and greater peril.
Yeah, basically they did... but with a twist.
Who Watches the Watchers was better though. An original story that was executed better. “Insurrection” was a lame rehash of this episode combined with the seventh season episode Homeward. Two recycled plots cobbled together with some action sequences, lame jokes, over the top acting from a boring villain, and some weak special effects that do not hold up very well.
To me these two episodes represent the BEST of Star Trek. It makes you THINK about issues related to culture, philosophy, spirituality, morality and humanity, and places those issues in a science fiction wrapper. The character of Jean-Luc Picard, with his maturity, clarity of thought and steadfast ethics is a character that I want to emulate as a human. This is one of the many reasons why I ❤this show, and why Picard is one of, if not THE best Captains in Starfleet (and I will die on that hill) 🥰
John Anderson, who played Kevin Uxbridge, was a veteran character actor with hundreds of roles under his belt. His wife died shortly before filming this episode. He said it was his hardest role.
“Who Watches the Watchers” is probably the *ultimate* Prime Directive episode. Easily one of the best episodes of the whole franchise, if not *the* best.
Agreed there, I always loved this episode.
it also showcases starfleet's morality, they spent time and effort to try fixing the mistake when they could have easily disappeared the village to fix it.
It truly shows the character of Picard that he was willing to die to prove to them he was not a god. But as a life long Star Trek fan those people couldn’t have picked a better person to deify.
My wife and I appreciate your commitment. One of my other fav reactors is watching ST:TNG but she’s watching key episodes. Your choice to experience all episodes from all seasons is the only way to truly be immersed in this lore, this cannon, this family. Thank you again.
Hopefully at some point the two of them can collab and talk ST for a while. They'll probably get along, they're both Canadian.
@@CrashWizard This would be fantastic but the problem with Canada is they're both still several THOUSAND kilometres from each other.
@rivercat962 Gosh, I wonder who you're talking about. ;)
Jenn and Cassie both wearing a red TNG uniform this weekend is awesome.
@@CrashWizard Well, they've already collaborated, at least twice, for a certain annual event one might mistake for a flower show.
A chilling, cerebral slowburn, _"The Survivors"_ is an important ep as it was one of the earlier moments when _TNG_ began to come into it's own as one of the superior dramas on television, at the time.
The wife of the man playing the immortal being died shortly before he filmed that episode. It's probably one of the reasons his acting at the end is so moving.
'Who Watches the Watchers' is SUCH an important episode and it's criminally underrated - not included on most "must watch" TNG lists. It's the kind of gem that you only get to see by hunkering down and watching the entire series.
'I admire Gall.'
I always enjoyed Worf's appreciation of adversaries. As a warrior, he always respected and admired a good challenge. "You must have Klingon blood!"
Who Watches the Watchers is a wonderful and influential episode, and I love how it addresses the moralities of the Prime Directive.
Definitely a fan favourite!
Who Watches the watchers holds a special place for me as it's the first full TNG episode I ever saw when they had re-airings of new episodes on Sundays. It was just when I was getting into Star Trek (my uncle bought me the 5 VHS Movie set which had trailers for Star Trek VI on it) and when I saw this I liked it so much I started watching every week.
Who Watches the Watchers was the first "Prime Directive" themed episode that I remember watching, and it left me with a powerful impression. I think I'm less critical of the prime directive than many Trek fans because of this.
It's in my top ten episodes.
Yep, a great pick for one of the seminal "Prime Directive" driven episodes, especially considering the "proto-Vulcan" nature of the culture being studied. In other words, they're informed by Logic but they haven't formally rejected emotion and sentiment, making them more like Romulans without saying so. And Juvenal was a Roman, wasn't he...?
Those actors that played the elderly couple ni 'The Surivivers' are Hollywood veterans and were great. You have seen that actor, John Anderson, before. He was the used car salesman in 'Psycho',
Haha, awesome. I never would have made the connection on my own. Thanks!
He was in a lot of westerns, too. Often the tough, but sad and listless man, mourning a son or wife. So, his role on this episode wasn't too new for him.
@@Billinois78 I believe his wife did just before or during the filming of this episode so his performance is truly poignant.
He is also the original MacGyver's grandfather, Harry.
John Anderson also played a hardass fire fighter Captain in one episode of the 70's series Emergency!
Only Picard could prove to someone that he shouldn't be worshipped while simultaneously being a god among men.
Despite all the Vulcans who serve on the Enterprise we're going to send down just Troi and Riker in disguise.
Dr. Selar was on vacation I guess.
Picard's monolog at the end of the surviors sounds like something Rod Serling would say.
It does fit in very will with a Classic Trek feel that was a bit like the Twilight Zone in ways.
@@artboymoySURVIVORS has a VERY strong TOS feel in all the best ways.
@@artboymoy Those were two of my favorite shows growing up both TOS TREK and Twilight Zone
and i like the way you never knew from week to week what the new episode would be about .
@@miguelvelez7221 Yes, there were so many TOS episodes with aliens with godlike powers
Pamela Adlon who played Oji in Who Watches the Watchers would win an Emmy award for King of the Hill and have a very successful voice acting career.
Oh wow, she's Bobby Hill!
What? 😮
@Icewid I'll have to pay more attention to King of the Hill now , and i have a fascination with voice acting as well . 🎙
Good tea. Nice house.
The Survivors is another fav of mine. The speech of the alien at end gets me every time. Pure Star Trek🖖
John Anderson gave us a fucking masterclass in just a few moments.
One astonishing aspect to "The Survivors" mystery is that Riker never gets it, and Riker is no dummy.
In the first season there were so many episodes where Picard was totally flummoxed and didn’t really understand what was going on until the last five minutes, and well after audiences figured it out. Seeing Picard later on like in this episode being able to connect the dots and put it to the test was very refreshing for early TNG.
Pay attention going forward and you will see that quilt they gave Picard draped over his chair in multiple episodes.
32:46 "That's the problem with believing in a supernatural being: trying to determine _what_ he _wants."_
In an episode _bursting_ with profundity, I feel like _this_ point was sort of obscured.
I love how you can identify the individual musical instruments in the score. I grew up with this show but that analysis gives it a new dimension for me.
Kevin Uxbridge is one of my favorite characters of all time, not just in Star Trek. And he was played so well as a soul tortured with the guilt of an incomprehensible crime.
This is the first time I have heard a reference to Lagrange points on a show, a real point in space between 2 bodies.
In any two body system there are _five_ Lagrange points in fact (but true, only one _between_ the bodies, which may be what you meant).
Ideal points for a station, holding area and perhaps even useful in teraforming. Milar mirrors ballenced near such points could warm Mars or shield venus by reflecting the Sun. There are points between the sun and behind each planet plus a pair set ahead and behind the planet's orbit. With mirrors the point would need adjusted for the effect of the solar wind on the mirrors. Light shifted to or away from a planet could help make them more Earthlike. While other means would need to be employeed as well, solar adjustment would be a big start.
@@anonymes2884 There are asteroids in the Lagrange points 60 degrees in front of and behind Jupiter. I learned that while researching for my sci-fi world building years ago. Then The Expanse came out and did almost exactly what I was trying to do. >_< Oh well, great minds, I guess.
@@cyberingcatgirls7069 The Trojans, right?
@@kevinlewallen4778 Yep!
"A retirement planet all to themselves." sounds like heaven
Those rocks, first seen when Kirk fought the Gorn - they get everywhere, don't they? I blame Q myself.
"Dude, we're dead!" 😅
The episode Who watches the watchers was brilliantly re-executed in the series The Orville episode Mad Idolatry which is about the consequences of First Contact with a species less advanced.
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The casting and performances in Survivors are just magnificent. I love that story and how it unfolds. This show produces a lot of gems and that is one of them. Both of these episodes, really!
Loving the increased frequency of the tng episodes!
I always thought there was subtext here that perhaps this was a lost population who were part of the Vulcan-Romulan exodus a few millennia ago.
I really enjoy STNG Sundays
Me too! 🖖
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Both of these episodes belong in the hall of fame of Sci Genre TV writing. Timeless stories of the future and the past, along with meditations on morality, divinity, and the eternal nature of the universe and it's endless possibilities, and potential horrors.
Nurya and Picard is such a cool duo, their conversation and her evolving understanding are incredibly heartwarming and beautiful. I really love that episode. And Picard actually keeps that Mintakan cloth that they gave him.
Who Watches the Watchers is my absolute favorite Star Trek episode of all time! So excited for this!
But there weren't any bees in it! :)
"If you're going to believe in a god, it may as well be Picard.". Beyond true!
The Watchers episode was shot at Vasquez Rocks in Southern California. This location has been used in over a dozen Star Trek TV episodes and movies.
Hey - the older woman was also JIm Carrey's assistant in the movie Liar Liar
Who watches the Watchers is probably my favorite episode of the entire series. So thought provoking.
Who Watches the Watchers was the episode I used to introduce my kids to TNG. It’s one of my favorites.
I knew when watching these episodes air back in the 1980s/90s that I was being treated to something special and that nothing like this would ever air again. Here in 2024, I can say I am right so far.
The character of Liko in "Who Watches the Watcher" is played by the great Ray Wise who was one of the stars of Twin Peaks (which I'm again going to totally recommend you watch)
Edit - Hearing Ray Wise say Palmer over and over again had me laughing real good.
Who Watches the Watcher is a timeless classic
These two are both standout episodes, and I had forgotten that they were back to back. What a pairing.
WWTW is so good I actually remember where I was when I saw it as a 9 year old. I was at my friend's, and I remember being utterly enthralled by it.
I really look forward to Star Trek Sundays! The episodes are great and you articulate your thoughts so well Jen.
The actress playing the leader of the village is Kathryn Leigh Scott, who played Maggie Evans in the Dark Shadows TV show in the 60's.
Thought that name sounded familiar.🤓
Favorite part of these reactions--"commercial break...!" 😂
Ray Wise GOATed
The actor that played the Douwd, Kevin Uxbridge, had lost his wife the year before he did this part which likely added to his realistic emotions in his final conversation with Captain Picard. We all wanted to see a confrontation between "Kevin" and "Q": One immortal being with a passive ideology against one with no qualms about doing whatever the heck he wants.
When Picard beams that woman onto the Enterprise and tries to explain to her that he is not a god, it's one of my favorite scenes in all of Star Trek. Certainly in the top ten for me. His logic is flawless, though he still fails to convince her until he is shot by an arrow and bleeds. Great television! [edit: Actually *SHE* was convinced when she saw the Picard could not save their crewman]
The difference being that Q isn't outright "evil", he's more of a prankster who loves to annoy those he choses to (especially Picard). But I could see Q annoying Kevin to the point where Kevin locks Q in a cage he can't get out of until be swears to behave himself.
@@IggyStardust1967 There have been other superbeings throughout the series too that they could bring into some sort of ultimate confrontation. Yeah, I wouldn't categorize Q as evil necessarily. More like a prankster as you say, or just amoral (as opposed to immoral). Almost like a child in a way.
I Luv hanging out with Captain Jen Luc Picard for Star Trek Sunday's! Great reaction Jen! Looking forward to seeing some episodes on Worf and the Klingons! Even more Q episodes will be fun! Thanks for sharing Jen your channel is awesome!❤💛 Cheers... with prune juice!🧃
"Who Watches the Watchers" is one of my favorite TNG episodes.
To me, this is where the more punchy dialog shared amongst the cast really kicked in. The late Michael Pillar really knew how to give the series a good shake down and so thus, shape the rest of the series to seal the stamp of it being an equal classic to the original. Instigating an open script department, where anyone could send in a script without the need of an agent, also paid dividends. It's a pity, some shows don't have this now.
Trouble is all shows these days are continuous arc's... The days of self contained episodes are over for now.. I personally prefer a mix of story arcs & standalone stories, As it's impossible to get the variety of different tales an episodic show can pull off in a serialised show..
@@Markus117d I have always felt that shows that are serial become lazy in their writing. Episodes, as self-contained stories, are harder to write, at least if you want them to be good. I don't mind small story arcs within the overall episodic framework though. A little goes a long way.
These videos are absolutely fantastic cant wait for more
I love these 🖖 Star Trek Sundays 🖖 with Jen
These two episodes were great and I agree you really notice the new camera angles and sets uniforms etc everything looks more polished I could always tell the better TNG episodes by the uniform losing those stripes but as a child watching I was craving action now I watch I love the older seasons as much
Thanks Jen may you live long & prosper
So awesome to see over 1200 in the chat today a truly jensational turn out . Ty everyone for making every sunday so special and showing so much love for jen on her star trek voyage 🖖🙌✨
This is such a great and important episode.
I love the ending on The Survivors. The older gentleman's acting was great at the end, like you said, much higher quality than the typical guest actor, and the whole story had me wondering what was going on because it made no sense up until the end. Then Picard's reaction, that he wasn't fit to judge, along with his Captain's Log narration and the mournful music. You're right, there's an air of melancholy to it that feels much more nuanced and mature than some of the storytelling in the earlier seasons.
Another great Sunday afternoon with Jen and TNG!
The Survivors is an amazing episode!
Picard is my favorite captain.
Commercial break!
7:00 "I said across her nose, not up it!"
Star trek season 3 is my favorite season of television. Very much looking forward to your reactions. Thanks for posting.
Picard: Beverly I thought you said you knew Pulaski's technique.
Beverly: uh... oops?
Dr Crusher did say it may not work on Mintakan physiology..
24:21 "Yeah. They must seem like absolute _gods."_
The late futurist, Arthur C. Clarke, once observed, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." This episode expounds on that.
30:16 "Any technology, sufficiently advanced, just seems like magic."
Oh. You know the quote. That's awesome.
And to quote Captain Pike regarding a corollary to that law, _"The law was debated by scientists and theologians alike and later reinterpreted, to say "any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God"."_
Two of my favorite TNG episodes
picard is such a decent role model. i always have looked up to him.
Two great episodes. The first one is so tragic. Who Watches the Watchers is one of my all-time favorite episodes. I could see you really enjoyed it too, Jen! Great commentary at the end there. :) Thanks for the opportunity to revisit these episodes with you.
Picard managed to go against everything he was preaching by going down to the planet, taking an arrow to the chest, and then coming back to life! 😂
I always remember 3x04, when I see the gift at the end on Picard chair.
This first series of episodes are such bangers. Troi's new outfit is sexy AF. The uniforms are still evolving. When Kevin revealed his crime I was like, "Holy Shit!" Great episode. And then there's WWTW. Great preamble on your part for what the episode may be about. Such a great episode as well. The season is off the chain! When Beverly talked about the Pulaski method of removing the memories, it was probably just more for the audience and not really a canonical thing where Pulaski was the first to do it. And Beverly said the procedure might now work on Mentakin brain physiology. And obviously it didn't, but there was no way to really test it before hand...
I always remember Marina Sirtis's acting in the first one.
Greetings Admiral Murray 🖖🙂
Enjoyed your reactions, as always ❤️. Hope you have a good night, and a perfect week.
Live long and prosper.
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In the TNG universe the concept “watching ” pre-industrial societies was probably controversial. How did StarFleet come to such a decision ? How many duck blinds exist on other planets? A very good episode.
Two of my alll-time favourite episodes!
The actress playing Ogi, the daughter, was also the voice of Bobby Hill in "King of the Hill."
The filming location of Mintaka III was also used in Arena, Star Trek IV as Vulcan and other episodes😊😊😊
Lol, yesterday i watched popcorn in bed reviewing key season 3 episodes. Cassie wore what looks like the same size uniform as Jen wears, but over her pajamas.😂 never too much TNG.
They need to do a crossover. Ditto Target Audience.
Both these episodes are fantastic TNG favorites of mine. Before the Soap Opera style- these serials are bringing me back.
This reaction was... magic ✨30:40
I hope at some point you get a chance to see the Farscape series. It has a lot of crazy aliens and issues of morality from different points of view.
Yes. Another fan of Jon and crew on Miya. Definitely a good choice for Jen.
"You must progress in your own way." Like dealing with con artists, politicians and cult leaders. Meteors, asteroids and maybe space ships from non-Federation worlds. Mind-altering drugs, inspiring art, spiritual experiences. Philosophy, new ideas. Dealing with the unexpected and the unexplainable. The Prime Directive is a commendable principle but I'm not sure how much sense it makes in the larger scheme of things.
Picard, at 14:05 "You'll be taken to the nearest starbase, and be held responsible for the attack on the enterprise, and possibly the deaths of 11,000 people"
Picard, at 15:26, after hearing Kevin saying he killed 50 billion husnock: "We have no law to fit your crime"
So, Picard would have Kevin taken into custody for 11,000 deaths, but lets him go for 50,000,000,000 deaths.
20:45 Damnit Jen! I'm a Doctor, not a Man In Black!. 😁
Captain Picard was such a wise, clever and sympathetic character in TNG.
And btw. Worf was hillarious when he was slurping the Tea while looking disgusted at it. 🤣
They should have given Worf prune juice. ;)
@@allanmanaged5285 A warriors drink!
I love these more frequent TNG releases! Thanks for not making me wait a week Jen!
It's fun watching this while the same episodes are playing on Pluto TV.
29:30 Love Patrick Stewart's use of a cæsura (timely pause, strategic silence), here between Jean"-Luc" and "Picard"
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Dammit, Jen! Next Jen Sundays are Vulcan awesome!
They're romulan the isles!
Language!
@@e.d.2096 Dammit, Eric! I'm a doctor, not a dictionary!
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Re: The Survivors - It's an interesting dilemma, he was peaceful & didn't want to fight & in trying to avoid it he enraged the aliens enough that they wiped out the colony, which led to him destroying the entire civilisation; the dilemma being, what would you do with all that power & what could the consequences be?
I watched the survivors as a kid when it was on air and typically thought it was a bit of a non event as an episode.
As an adult, this episode is one of the first that comes to mind when I think of tng episode recommendations. The gravity of the revelation at the end is so incredibly dark. A being so powerful, he willed an entire species into extinction. It really puts Q's antics into perspective.
I agree but if he could kill them all surely he would have resurrected them all later if he could so his powers were limited.
As usual, John Anderson brought incredible gravitas to his role.
The subject of Picard breaking General Order 1 (The Prime Directive) is bought up in a later episode.
The actress playing Rishon, the old lady, was in Liar Liar as Jim Carrey's assistant.
The same actress was also the court officer who monitored Robin William's character getting a job in Mrs. Doubtfire. If you watch her closely when RW is doing all of his voices, you can see that at one point she cracked up. Also, the bit after he stuck his face in the pie/cake when she came in and almost caught him and was melting with "one lump or two?" was adlibbed by RW.