Game Theory: Fallout, BOOM! Headshot
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2012
- Grab your tickets to the gun show, 'cause we're checking out the real-life effectiveness of headshots. We're looking at ballistics, neuroscience, gun regulations, and physics to see whether your character could survive getting shot at point-blank range during the opening of Fallout: New Vegas.
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"...destroying his left frontal lobe-"
little did matpat know he was going to do a lot more cases on frontal lobes two years later...
tsk tsk tsk
Calvin Reinert lol
cami wolf I get bonus points for saying that the mystery tv show is Phineas & Ferb
Arif Akyuz beautiful.
+cami wolf Am I the only one who read this in Morgan Freeman's voice?
Andy Dufresne was a good man...
the production quality has gone up tremendously since this video
Also the ability to sell out.
M.O. you mad about FNAF? xD
holy crap you're right
+M.O. geez dude. any one making money for anything is technically selling out.
i disagree. Mat has kept the show very clean of cheap over selling of products.
in fact i usually enjoy his little plugs.
It's nice revisiting his old vids.
Me: "Are you my brain?"
Brain-in-a-jar: "Ah, lovely, figured that out, have we? Would you like a cookie?"
Me: "Yes."
Headshots in Bethesda games are just flesh wounds, a good nights rest will fix it
Best Comment on UA-cam.
Oh yes and headshots on a deathclaw.... A .50 cal should be a instate kill to everything but no balance .
*almost get killed by a mini nuke* "Fuck,I am feeling very bad maybe I should lay down and take a quick nap in this mattress"
*Takes a nap and all the damage just straight up dissapears*
Benny's pistol could also have misfired, and since one can load their own rounds in the game, it is quite possible, whether Benny or an underling hand-loaded the rounds, the rounds were packed with insufficient powder. This is a likely scenario because Doc Mitchel plainly states HE HAD TO DIG OUT THE BULLET. This would mean the round was highly likely a junk round (very lousy ammo in the game), and had a lower muzzle velocity. Benny is portrayed as a poser; he acts like a big shot, but he's also cheap (he weasels out of paying the Khans he hired). I also doubt Benny is much of a marksman since he, again, is a poser. He relies on his underlings to do his dirty work, and let's face it, none of them are very bright. So combined with lack of marksmanship, a highly decorative - yet mediocre - 9mm pistol that probably hasn't been properly maintained, and finally the high probability of low-grade ammo combined with poor maintenance means Courier Six could have survived a headshot fired from Maria. As for the second shot you mentioned, when did that happen? Doc Mitchel only dug out ONE bullet. As for bleeding, Vic pulled you from the ground and brought you to Doc Mitchel within minutes of being shot, increasing the odds of post-headshot survival greatly. Finally, one last aspect that probably doesn't matter, but considering the odds of junk rounds being used, deserts get cold at night, and it's quite possible a poorly crafted bullet would allow excess gasses to escape ahead of the bullet due to imperfections in the geometry combined with condensing metal as the temperature drops. Like I said, that probably doesn't make much of a difference, but it sure doesn't help.
i love your analisis, marry me
***** I feel so stupide now
I don't feel bad I just feel kinda dumb
Shooterguy5000 god job shooter
Actually, one thing that occurred to me was the issue of weapon mods. The 9mm pistol is capable of being equipped with a suppressor (at least with mods), and immediately after doing so , every shot is suppressed. Might Benny have normally equipped his pistol with a suppressor, and therefore tended to load with subsonic rounds? Subsonics are noted for low penetration, especially in small-bore calibers that normally rely on high velocity for successful kill shots.
The perfect blend of attributes allowed the Courier to survive.
He was just strong enough to stop the bullet's force.
He was just perceptive enough to notice the angle of the gun.
He was just durable enough to survive the ensuing bloodloss.
He was just charismatic enough to make Benny doubt his aim.
He was just intelligent enough to know how to angle his head.
He was just agile enough to move his head in the right direction.
And he was just lucky enough so that these all came together.
Add those up in any way and you have the perfect recipe for a revenge-fueled Wasteland Survival Guru.
***** true
Much win!
But that's just a theory. A game theory! Thanks for watching!
Jake Dowman-French such awesome!
Brilliant!
talking to my brain was probably my favourite part of fallout: new vegas
Zomical gaming really? what about letting go? just me? okay...
pepper Mill Yeah, letting go... the only part of the game I didn't quite agree with xD.
"What, you seriously want me to leave all those gold bars behind me? Fuck that! I'll use all the Turbos I've stockpiled if I need to, but I ain't getting outta here without meh gold!" :D
Fun fact : With around five Turbos, a few shortcuts and a bunch of tries, ... I actually succeeded. :3
LeagusDaemon lol I actually managed to take all of the gold to, didn't need turbo, just needed to drop a bunch of stuff :P (still haven't found anyone to sell the gold to though...
Zomical gaming I have some trouble believing that, given that a non-cheated game can only reach 375 of carry weight and the 37 bars, together, weight more than 1200. To get all of them, it's pretty much necessary to be overencumbered. If you really did manage that feat without turbo, though, I'd be happy to hear more about your method ^^.
As for selling, I may recommend the Gun Runners as well as Trading Outpost 188. The Crimson Caravan company may also be a good choice if you're in a hurry, and if you have Old World Blues installed, the Sink has enough money to also buy a few :3.
wait there were 37? I got like 18 or 19 of them... shit maybe I did drop some of them (sorry :P) But my method was basically dropping everything that wasn't a weapon I used a lot and making sure I had eaten or dropped all food that weighed something... Honestly this was a month or so ago but I remember escaping with all or the majority of the gold as every time I go back to that save file I have ED-E carrying nineteen gold bars so I can't remember if I managed to sell a few or not... I'll check the save file next time I play new vegas :)
It's amazing how the human body can live without the frontal lobe... Y'know?
Some can live with half a brain (just one lobe). Pf course only if they lose it at a really young age or they are veggies.
I got the reference
I see what you did there
Minecratian Vs World FNAF?
Minecratian Vs World yup
When quarantine gets to you and you end up watching 8 year old videos
Well then. Hello there
Yup
We vibing
Or is it?
Yes
It is literally impossible, even with a critical hit, for Maria to kill the player in the cutscene using the combat damage tables. Even at level 1, Endurance 1, no armor, and assuming Benny has maxed Guns skill (he doesn't), it doesn't do enough damage to kill even with the critical and headshot bonuses. Ain't that a kick in the head?
Well played.
bajscast Best cp,,ent ever.
that youtube channel *comment, I was a bit to the right...
hes considering irl not ingame damage
bajscast What about a special ammo? Would it kill you if you added that or no?
"destroying his left frontal lobe"
me: FNAF is that you?
Old af
Maybe the glitch at the beginning of FNV, where Doc Mitchell's head turned, wasn't an actual glitch. Maybe it's the aftermath of the courier getting shot in the head by Benny and having sustained minor brain damage! Mind=Blown.
No my game doesnt do that for any one reading this
There are many minds blown, most have ground beef everywhere tho
this comment was DEFINITELY written 6 years ago lmao
Oh my Talos! They killed...You know what? No-one actually cares about Heimskr.
I'll drink to that
Milk drinker!
*Insert good comeback here*
Diety of Light
its from skyrim...
Am I the only one who liked Heimskr?
I've always found it ironic that there are laws for war. "You can kill people, but only using this ammo"
its so its not "i can do whatever i want okay then ill use this ammo that will kill millions very very painfully." It's not a LAW its an agreement.
that is were you are wrong they have banned ammo that would kill in one shot like explosive ammo and that would kill very very fast
if they did use explosive it would kill fast so the person geting shot would not feel
all of the damage it did
56% of real world gun wounds will kill you after 1 shot.
***** in New hampshire hanging is allowed
"You should have aimed for the head"
*Snap*
Don't worry, Courier had 10 Luck
I just assumed Benny didn't put any points in PER or Guns.
As unscientific or not smart sounding as it is (No offense but this is Game Theory), that comment is best comment and gets my thumb :3
No offense taken :3
Phineas and Ferb reference?
Just when I thought you couldn't get any more awesome.
I love that show!
who know's the faces of phineas?
***** Cartoons are not inherently just for kids.
Phineas and Ferb actually has a lot of more adult jokes, that kids don't usually get. It's deigned to be humorous to all ages.
For example: (It's been a while, so I might not have gotten this quote exactly right)
"Think of all the practical uses a caveman could have in modern-day life!
...actually, besides politics, I can't think of anything."
Because it's a funny show.
***** because its funny for all ages all my family watches it ( 3 year olds, 18 year olds ,and 40 year olds )
Didn't the Courier only get shot once...?
That's what I thought too
Yeah he was just talking about what would happen if he was shot twice
Thecooljay00 [ORIGIGNAL] no the courier definitely got shot twice Benny even said so.
Oh ok Thxs
So does the Auto-Doc in Old World Blues.
Wait what? When the hell did the courier in New Vegas get shot in the head a second time by Benny?!? In the dialogue with Mobius in the Old World Blues DLC the courier said "bullet" not *bullets* when addressing his/her cranial injury.
TheTaintedWisdom HEY! maybe the bullet did bounce! and only did the bullet that hit the temple actually went through. Or... Maybe Bethesta messed up and left a few continuity errors.... Either works for me. I liked the game play much more than the story.
+Willy, The Drunk Hobo well I have the game's case right next to me (ultimate edition) and it says Obsidian Entertainment, Bethesda Softworks, ZeniMax Europe LTD., Gamrbryo, and Havok
***** I was just backing
you up...
***** IVE FOUND YOU HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA you sweet little baby
Matriones Hm, I gave that response to Benny once but never had that exchange with Cass. Guess they just messed up a bit in the Old World Blues DLC. Thanks for clarifying for me.
You know, considering that Fallout takes place in a post-apocalyptic world, and that a lot is salvaged from pre-war era, maybe Benny shot you with bad bullets: one in which the gunpowder has degraded to the point where it couldn't propel the bullet to lethal speeds.
maybe he shot the protagonist in the mouth, because we all know how good our vault boys are at speaking actual words :D
So every fallout's protagonists have some kind of poblem on their mouth and, communicate through telekinesis?
Well,ever notice in movies when somebody's about to get shot they normally open their mouth to yell "Wait no!",Maybe ,when benny fired,it ripped through flesh and Missed the jaw,it'd explain the speech,then again,imagine how long it'd take bethesda to make up ALL the Dialogue for The wanderer/Courier...
***** Sarcasm...
***** caught it through the teeth broke teeth to embarrassed to talk :D but that's just a theory A GAME THEORY
***** Ba-dum-tss...
_What MatPat failed to take into account is that the moment "New Game" was clicked on, The Courier became the Player Character, therefore gaining a suite of supernatural capabilities, ranging from control over reality itself via Console Commands, the ability to create return points in the timeline, carrying hundreds of pounds without trouble, and of course, surviving many many headshots over the course of a short time. Though it would have been more realistic if you had the "Head Crippled" status effect when you woke up._
Merp.
*****
_There are infinite instances of existence where that is real. Every single time you installed a weapon or armour mod for your game, you created another infinity number of universes._
_QUANTUM FUCKERY EVERYONE_
holdup, Holdup, HOLDUP!!!! I thought hippocampi were magical fish horses! ...PERCY JACKSON YOU LIED TO ME!!!
Pj ftw
They are both. that part of the brain has been called like that cause its section resembles a seahorse
We have giant fish horses in our heads?
Cameron Howard ahahahah we have a part of a brain shaped as a seahorse. :P
Well, unless you have water up there ;)
Charlie G nuuuu I trusted the Percy Jackson books :(
The funny thing? In-game, it's absolutely impossible to die from just two headshots from Benny's Maria, if you're at full health.
The Courier was only shot once. The whole shot twice thing comes from the original cut intro for new Vegas in which jessup pistol whips you then Benny shoots you in the head twice.
Thats is wrong at the end of the game when you face lanius he says something about you having two bullet wounds in your head
+Hunter Mcghee
That's because most of the dialogue was already finished when they cut the intro due to it being extremely buggy.
Lone Wanderer Seeing as there are multiple other points in the game in which it states you where shot twice, such as The Forecaster saying "two to the skull, but one gets up" when you ask him to think about you, it can pretty much be considered canon. Let's just say that the intro cutting at the first shot is The Courier blacking out.
I just realized benny kinda looks like the guy in the Westside story scene he showed, that combined with benny naming his gun Maria can only mean one thing... TIME TRAVEL
Or absolutely nothing
Noneofyour Business actually he was based on a gangster that ran a casino in Vegas.
mesirpez im not talking personality, they just kinda look alike
Noneofyour Business i see what you are saying. i was just adding in that that was where Bethesda got him from
mesirpez a gangster who's also known as THE FATHER OF LAS VEGAS.
Love these old ones definitely gonna miss him
You also have to consider the possibility that the Courier is super human. Seriously, look at the shit he endures with basically no real effort.
I'm starting to think all the protagonists from Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout 3 and New Vegas are the same bloodline, considering they're all capable of FAR more feats of terrifying ability than anyone else in the wasteland.
Broke your leg. Take a nap and it's all better.
Either that, or irradiated and given abilities more powerful than the average human.
EariosRandomness Genetics + Radiation = ??? = Win?
Humanity survived and lived through a irradiated world for how long again in the fallout universe?
dra6o0n For 500 years, humanity lived underground. The radiation and fallout would have gone away by the time they got back up to the surface. I think, based off of some of the random side rooms, that they were using nuclear power. The people working with the reactors would have been exposed to radiation 24/7 for most of their lives. Their genetic structure would have partially broken down and rearranged, mutating them over successive generations. In other words, their power generation irradiated them into mutant freaks of nature. Some would probably have better mutations, and thus survive longer, produce more offspring, and eventually, the abilities would be a permanent part of the population's physiology. A possible genetic defect could be a thicker skull, causing less susceptibility to headshots. There, I summed up what I meant. Got it?
This could be possible considering familys have bin split during the begining of the nuclear war. For example: there are a couple of brothers/sisters with super human abilities like the fallout protagonists and they each go into a other vault. There they reproduce and make children with those same powers. This bloodline goes on for a few hundred years and comes down to all the protagonists its not an impossible theory and can even be true.
dont forget, sometimes in fallout when YOU shoot them in the head, they dont die instantly
shoot them witha 9 mm and they never die from one shot
Returning to this video after Matthew's retirement feels like re-entering a favorite gaming world, each
theory and revelation a new level unlocked in our quest for knowledge. It's like flipping through a
well-worn strategy guide, uncovering hidden secrets and strategies to conquer the next boss.
Mat, if you see this, know that I will forever have the "Maria" jingle from WSS stuck in my head because of how you kept using it, and I thank you.
I think the courier did suffer brain damage and that's why he can do anything without guilt or remorse and he sees war as just a game.
No, that's just a typical side effect of becoming a player avatar. Other symptoms include : A rapid increase in toughness, shooting skills and various other useful abilities, a tendency the loot the shit out of everything in sight, talking to every neutral of friendly hoping to be told what you could do in exchange for handsome rewards and exploring every nook and crannies of the known universe, even the parts that are filled with deadly radiation or unspeakably horrifying monsters, because those are the areas that are more likely to be filled with even better loot!
LiwenDiamond don't forget the bottomless pockets. those damn pockets :P
Actually Mister "Video Game Logic Explains Everything In Video Games!" With How You Would Be Damaged, You Would Have No Guilt Or Burdens.
Meaning You Could Murder Your Mother And Not Care Hoping For War.
and also running around in circles. dont forget that one
Christopher Gaming cAPTAIN cAPITALS! wE mEET aGAIN!
mUAHAHAHAHAA
In real life, you're dead. But this is Fallout which being in the future with a 1940's theme... its the future past, they clearly show all throughout the game they have advanced technology and medical improvements. They also showcase their ability to change how your mind things. In the game if you get addicted to something no matter how bad it is, they give you something and bam addictions gone like it never even happened. That means they would have had to use something to fix the brain's chemical dependency which is not possible today. So it's possible they could fix someone up, hell they could create humans in that game so... yeah not a problem for them.
you are referring to "them" the only person to operate on you was Doc Mitchell, and just from looking at his house and what town he's in it pretty obvious he doesn't have anything more then basic surgery supplies, and very little to no tech at all. and you don't seem to be taking into account that this is the wasteland, it's not as bad as DC but it's still a wasteland. to survive something like a shot in the temple it would take the world most advanced Auto-Doc.
***** This is game where you could be on the verge of death, all limbs and head crippled then sleep for 1 hour and be full health and all limbs healed... two head shots: tis just a flesh wound.
Hardcore mode.
DocHollowDay
Yes. The Courier is the world's toughest man. (Or woman).
Except you're forgetting the fact that almost every was eradicated by the great war and all medical supplies that Doc Mitchell were very basic. I checked around his house and he only had some hot plates, surgical tubing, crutches (not going to help a brain injury) medical records and not much else, unless abraxo cleaner helped brain surgery, so its a very unrealistic situation, but games weren't necessarily meant to be realistic.
"Some children are more special than others," I died.
Remember the days when you didn't have to put a disclaimer on a video telling kids not to shoot themselves point blank in the head because it is technically possible to survive
Ok, I might have to point out a few flaws in your theory... here's four points that might be clarifying.
1. You CAN find hollow point ammo in the Mojave Wasteland. It's very uncommon, but there are merchants that sell different ammo types in the wasteland, such as the standard FMJ, to even incendiary rounds. It's just few and far between to find it. I'll bet my Pipboy 3000 somebody sells 9mm ammo variants it in the game. Benny probably only had standard (not hollow) ammo on hand when he tried to kill you, thus that why you probably survived.
2. You DID suffer memory loss in the game. (SPOILER) It is implied that you used to do Courier work, and that you were supposed to deliver a package to Benny. There was a snafu, and Benny decided to take the package for himself, I believe... Haven't played to far in the game, but that's the main thing I remember...
3. The Geneva Convention doesn't mean crap in 2281. Otherwise there wouldn't have been a full scale nuclear war in the first place. Everybody used the most devastating weapons they could find or make. They even have a gun called the Fat Man, which is a friggin portable mini-nuke gun! Definitely not friendly with the Geneva Convention. O_o
4. Benny goofed up when he tried killing you. Like you said at the end. It take two shots to kill you in the head point blank (insert movie reference here). The first would render you unconscious. After Benny shot you once, he probably would have thought you were dead, since you appeared to be, when you were actually unconscious. What if it was a perfect storm? Benny's bad aim, standard ammo instead of hollow point, and a doctor nearby to fix your head. That would be extremely lucky, but hey. After all, you ARE in Vegas!
Also... BOOM. Headshot!
movie reference: zombieland :)
psychmandimpi
LOL! I remember that rule! Always double tap!
Actually I was thinking about making at Kenue Reeves pun at that part. =P
Plus he buried you in a shallow grave... He must have thought that even if the headshot didn't kill you, you would have died in the grave.
AHEM remember Maria uses ball ammo? ( if u screen shot the bullets from Maria the words on it would match ball ammo irl )
Interesting... very interesting.
I have a theory for you. The Courier has been exposed to radiation just as much as the next guy in the wastes. They are not the same as us anymore. The radiation could have of toughened their skin or their muscle mass to soften the impact or penetration of a 9mm ball. A rifle round would be a different story in this case though.
We all know that people can survive headshots. Plus, don't think for a second that you have to wait exactly 10 generations for anything to be altered in radiation. The couriers story could be different, maybe his family was changed early by the radiation due to the dosage of direct intake and exposure. It's a theory and you can not downplay it at all.
Not only that but 10 GENERATIONS COULD EASILY HAVE PASSED BY TIME NEW VEGAS TOOK PLACE.
I didn't fly into rage... what the hell are you talking about. Nor did I say the protagonist here was a descendant of the FO1 protagonist. Lastly, yes, you did try to downplay my theory. What else do you call someone trying to point out reasons why another person is wrong. I used the caps so you would make sure to read.
I'm not the least bit upset either. Your statements were fun to dismantle.
I'm not irritated.
Hop on the fallout4 hype train
MrMineMX have you played all the other ones or are you here from skyrim
Dayne johnson
I only played Fallout 3 and New vegas
CHOO CHOO
yeah memorZ
i remember fallout 2. way back. when
did not play much 3... but they are great games.
may be first pc game i buy scince. .. no shxt... battlefield 2..
lolz.
yes i still some times get on bf2, even though all the servers shut down. thanks EA
yeah memorZ
i remember fallout 2. way back. when
did not play much 3... but they are great games.
may be first pc game i buy scince. .. no shxt... battlefield 2..
lolz.
yes i still some times get on bf2, even though all the servers shut down. thanks EA
saw the live stream and i thought "what my favorite theory?" and man seeing all these old videos warms my heart so much. seeing mat grow and make so much change has been such an experience as a viewer and I can't wait for more to come
How do you know that Benny was using ball ammo? Did you forget that AP and hollow point are readily available in NV? No one cares about the GC anymore after all.
Also, the guns you're using in most modern shooters fire a much smaller round then older guns do. 5.56, what the M16 uses, is basically a .22 on steroids.
Yeah no...
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5.56mm rounds have a larger projectile and much more propellant. They're also designed to 'tumble' once they hit something, meaning if that something is a person there is a spinning chunk of metal passing through them. 7.62mm rounds, for example, are better for shooting through walls etc. but are more likely to pass through a person without transferring very much energy to the person.
dom69foco Doesn't change the fact that they are much, much smaller rounds when compared to old military ammo such as 8mm Mauser or .577/450. And 7.62 rounds the AK 47 is just a stubby rifle round.
Modern military convention says that firing more smaller caliber bullets is better then firing a smaller amount of high caliber rounds.
Did you read my comment? 5.56mm rounds tumble inside the body, greatly increasing damage dealt. Nato 7.62 rounds often pass through without imparting much inertia/energy. AK 7.62mm rounds are a little slower and less accurate but less likely to over-penetrate. Everything is a trade off.
dom69foco
Did you read any of my comment? I was only taking about the size of the rounds from the start. Not the ballistic chracteristics of the rounds.
***** Then what is your point?
.22+brain almost always equals death. It's a very valuable tool for real life hitmen because the bullet has enough force to go into the skull but, usually, not enough to escape it. So it ricochets in your head.
I'm not going to speak on headshots with other calibre guns but in real life higher calibre bullets tend to have a lower mortality rate for body shots than lower calibre bullets. Hence why a lot of murder victims were killed with lower calibre bullets and why so many people survive a .50 calibre shot (again, talking about body shots). Bullets are said to be most dangerous when there's no escape wound.
Hence why all the disease spread in the civil war.
They have concluded that if we didn't have the medicine that we have today, the murder rate would be 6 times higher due to infections finishing the job. Can't imagine how worse that was in the civil war era, let alone a battle. I do know that in the Roman era you just needed to be knicked by a blade to get an infection from it. Getting a good cut was enough to kill you, given you survive the battle to die from infections/disease.
you also have to look at the powder charge behind it. a 50GI and 50 action express only thing they have in common is the projectile is 50 cal. the old 50 cal muzzle loaders from the civil war were not as powerful as a 50S&w by a long shot. especially if fired from a pistol of equal length.
Another thing is bullet mass.
and a 9mmP+ is more than enough to go through a skull from any angle.
other rounds like 357 sig and 7.62x25 can cause hyrdostatic shock ruining the nervous system around the hole. least more than the usual bullet used in crimes.
Just be glad we have bullets that won't give you about 30 diseases when shot, if they even allow you to remain alive.
TeamCreeperBomb A bio-chemical bullet. Let's hope that never becomes a common thing.
I would like to point out 8 years lateyears late that your character gets shot twice in the head
He says that
Glad to see the video is back to being public, I remember a few years ago I tried to find this again and I had to watch it on some random guys channel
Holy hot damn, I didn't expect this to be a two year old video when I just watched the newest video on the page.
Yeah doods
Holy shit I didn't expect someone to have commented only 11 hours ago... and the 2 years old thing.
...... you mean 3
RedstoneUniverse lol
We have to remeber that your enemies in fallout can sometime survive more than ten headshots.
Who else came here after watching mat pat's video on the value of nuke cola bottle caps?
You gotta love old mat
5:15 you know you've been on youtube too long when you recognize this call of duty video...
Idk the video ;-;
anime fanboy101 It's Chris Smoove's "headshot" video
Andrew Wang What's the game after that?
6:20
Abs-Sew-Lute-Lee-Knot.
This made me subscribe XD
One thing to note though the bullet didnt penetrate enough (at least one of them didnt) as Doc removed it to the point where you can pick it up as in game item.
8 years later and this is still my favorite game theory video. 😊
Huh? Who says he shot you twice? He only fires one shot. Besides, he even mentions in the game that it serves him right for using a 9mm. Also, this being 200-odd years past the apocalypse, that's unlikely to be match grade factory ammo he was using. could be it was a shitty low-quality hand-load with bad powder.
The theories so far are about cranial shots. There have been people shot in the face where the bullet never even made contact with the cranium. It'll still make a mess and knock you out, but that was used for the justification of character customisation: Doc Mitchell had to reconstruct your face and pull bits of bullet out of your head.
BUT HEY
IT'S JUST A THEORY
A GAME THEORY
Played that begining tons of times. It never says you get shot twice in the head,
TGranite Hm... did come across a reference to it. The Forecaster says "Two to the skull and one gets up". Pretty vague though. I choose to believe it was just one. Because the second shot does nothing for the narrative but make it all way less likely.
He probably said bullets hit you twice because of the damage caused by the exit wounds. A powerful gun with large caliber bullets could explode the back of the skull. And that's without considering the possibility of it bouncing around inside your head.
niaya12 If he did, it is the oddest use of the English language I've heard all week.
What's the song at the end? and DON'T say the meme that shall not be spoken. You know the one.
Considering the performance of Maria in-game, the tumbling pattern of the bullet would likely traumatize an entire hemisphere of the brain, triggering almost instant death. Especially if he has Hollow Points loaded. PS, the Geneva conventions don't really apply to the civilian market, seeing as you can buy Hollow Points if you really want to.
+Sam Geuvenen Hague convention, and the US never signed it. But we follow it. And yeah its only in times of war for the military.
+Sam Geuvenen Basically these sections of the Geneva convention and others is more like a "gentleman's agreement" to stick to rules that are more humane for the soldiers whose job it is to actually go into combat due to their profession (i.e. on behalf of a nation) rather than other motivating factors.
Almost all of the items that are prohibited were actually used on a fairly large scale during times of total war before these sorts of conventions were put in place. Getting shot and burning to death from a fire you can't extinguish is not a fun way to go.
And I'm pretty sure Geneva itself is dead.
+Sam Geuvenen Actually a hollow point would likely do less damage. "Between the eyes" is actually the hardest part of your head. The strength of the bone is almost the same as the power of the gun.
Skyler Jr However, what if he hits you in the eye?
Whoa ...production values are amazing now. Good job. This video reminds me of watching VHS now that I'm used to HD
In fallout new vegas theres an add-on called the Big MT, in this add-on you get to meet your own brain which is mostly visible inside a glass tank (its at this point you can actually see where the bullet hit)
then also when in Big MT you have a speech option that literally tells you how the courier survived
(P.S were you scared of doctor dala too)
Erin Kosanke Partially (you tend to get over your fears when you conquer them (If you know what i mean lol) )
how do we know we were shot twice? the robot and the doctor says "bullet" which is not plural.
And what about how much health did the courier have at the time?
lol well it was meant to be realistic, the amount of health doesn't matter in real life
Well that means how much dmg the gun does and benny's small weapon skills + perks don't matter then
_Vladamir only in gameplay.This kind of thing is an example of "ludonarrative dissonance" thee the story and game mechanics contradict each other.
I always thought it was only one shot too. Nowhere in the game does it state you are shot twice. However, being shot in the head WOULD render you unconscious - and then being buried after? I'm more interested to know how deep they buried the character and how long after you are shot that robot waited to dig you out - sounds to me like your character would have suffocated in that time or perhaps bled out rather than dying as a direct result of the bullet itself.
Love the song at the end. Just wonderful.
I love how you managed to get Jerry's stand-up routine nailed. I laughed so hard one of my roommates told me to get help. XD
In my research, I found something interesting. In the final version of the game, Benny only shot once. However, before that cutscene was made, there was a placeholder one that wasnt pre-rendered, wherein benny shot twice. I believe most dialogue that states that it was two shots is leftover from before that change was made.
I miss him putting those songs at the end.
Thanks Mat for reminding me of the tub thumping song, I used to like it as a child in the 90's.
When madpatt had no filter
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Clive Wearing reminded me of the movie 50 first dates, having to repeat the day like that and then losing and repeating.
Sorry, losing her memory.
I was half-way through typing nearly the same thing, then I saw your post, LOL
3:20 "It's amazing what you can do without the frontal lobe..."
no-one ever thought how the bullet felt
+faze pony Well, technically the brain itself doesn't have a pain receptor. However, the entry wound and the exit wound(if there is one) would probably hurt like hell, given that you're still conscious.
i said that like the bullet had feelings
+faze pony the bullet saved his life too (when you have Old World Blues DLC).
lol
"faze pony"
This is the only game theory video I havent seen in 3 years!
2:37 All children are S.P.E.C.I.A.L :D (Fallout 3 :P )
special needs :p lol jk
Wait what? When does Benny shoot the courier twice? It's one gun shot and then the game cuts to intro?
The show is called Phineas and Freb. The girl's name is Isabella.
Freb???? HAHA
Sorry, I mean Ferb
I think watching the older videos is better because there isn’t forced advertising squeezed into the actual content.
Exactly, things were so much more innocent back then
If anyone is wondering, the musical is West Side Story.
OH MY GOD I thought I was the only one who thought your brain sounded like Stewie!
thanks for the biology and ballistics lesson
The guy with the missing jaw was actually a very good sniper for some European county. Can't remember which. He was brilliant against the Russians. He killed hundreds. He survived mortar fire and everything, but got shot in the face which took his bottom jaw. 1:45
+Josh Latham His name was Simo Häyhä and was a Finnish sniper during the Winter War, he killed around 500 Soviets, and the best part?
It was all in a 100 day period.
And he never used a scope.
He was simo häyhä, a finnish hero...
+"Marky Mark" Markus Gaming/LurkingFan4 He's my hero.
rtyerh trjrje I can see why.
+Josh Latham Its because all the Russians were silver
"Oh i see."
When did you get shot twice? I've had 8-9 play throughs of that game and I only remember one.
Yep, I'm pretty sure it was only one shot, one which you are likely to survive.
He is shot twice canonically but im not sure when the first and second shot took place
where is it mentioned though?
Dr. BEES Legate Lanius references that he is shot twice and so does the Forecaster (the little kid with the weird headgear). And, while I haven't seen it personally, I've heard if you look really closely at your character (specifically during the create a character screen) you can see the two scars. Which if it is true, then idk why these guys are guessing where he would've been shot...
Just hitting my old favorites given the news
It makes sense that a simple mild mannered courier would turn into the wasteland demon after taking frontal lobe damage
You are shot twice? I don't remember that.
One mistake, when you said "you are using high caliber full auto weapons as opposed to the simple handgun in Fallout" (paraphrasing), you showed gameplay with an MP9, ironically as it's name suggests it is also a 9mm, no more powerful. Also, there is no indication the 9mm ammo in Fallout is Ball, the more popular pistol cartridges for civilian defense is hollow point and seeing as Fallout is based off off of a 50's style america where the army is using .45 ammo of the real 50's US military or the fictional 12mm pistol, most 9mm ammo found in America would be civilian hollow point style.
Also, interesting story, my father is an old police officer and his city was one of the few to still have .38 revolvers at the beginning of his service, the .38 is even more prone to unsatisfactory power than a 9mm, he knows a fellow officer who shot a perp in the chest and it deflected off of his sternum 90 degrees upwards, split the tip of his nose and broke a neon sign above him. Another story had a perp shot in the side of his head, the bullet stayed under the skin and didn't penetrate the skull, causing it to follow the curve of his head and lazily drop out of a hole on the exact opposite side of his skull. After my father saw the guy with nothing but two cotton balls stopping the bleeding from small holes in his skin on either side to his head (my dad not aware of the circumstances), he asked:
"What happened to this guy?"
"He got shot in the head."
"Haha, no, seriously"
Just to note, when you kill the guy who shot you, he's carrying ball rounds.
Hollow points are explicitly marked.
Most civilian ammunition in the United States in the 50's, and even today is still omni purpose ball ammunition. In the fallout universe, anything that isn't explicitly marked as "9mm round(s)" is a speciality ammunition type such as incendiary, hollow point, or flechette. It would be safe to assume that if something is marked clearly as "9mm round(s)" they are probably a ball ammunition. Also, 12mm pistols exist. That is a .47 calibre. A 12.7mm is a .50 calibre and a 13mm is a .51 calibre.
Please attempt at least minimal research before attempting to dispute someone who has clearly made a true effort to prove or disprove something.
Yea like Drowning Pony said, Hollow Point ammo is in Fallout New Vegas but it isn't the standard ammo you find in the game. The more standard ammo isn't specifically listed as anything so one should assume they are ball rounds. While the two special ammo's are Hollow Point and Armor Piercing and when you get the gun by killing the guy who shot you he only has ball round ammo on him.
U guys are right. Forgot these details. Perhaps I shouldn't weigh in when it's been so long since I played.
well that was an uplifting song at the end
Over 3 years old i watched this the day it was uploaded!
I knew Phineas Gage would be mentioned in this...
You just dropped down my level of fear when it comes to headshots. Thanks Game Theory!
if you shot by light machine gun you still gonna death
***** well if its aim right at your vital point which i cant remember the name you still gonna die.Remember 9mm desaing to cut through.
3:34 phinas and ferb
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more than 3 years old, wow Game Theory has changed in a sense that the quality has gotten better as well as not changed at the same time lol
I am a psychic. Wanna know why? I know that all of you felt the glabella (scull in between eyebrows) after he mentioned it.
I didn't.
You don't count. You aren't part of "all of you".
Hahahahah
I didn't. But I did when you mentioned it.
lol, he mentioned it, i mentioned it, whats the difference?
Mentioning the Geneva convention is totally irrelevant as it ONLY applies to war and was thrown out window when the entire world was nuked (the Geneva convention says thats a no-no too by the way). Also, a 9mm round is actually larger slug than most military weapons which generally fire 5.56 or 7.62 mm ammo, but those rounds usually have more powder. Hollow point and jacket rounds will work just fine in any standard 9mm pistol and are available in the game. So, odds are, Benny is shooting a larger, slower bullet that is designed to deform on impact and WONT pass through the skull resulting in the bullet likely only barely breaching the skull and lodging itself in the soft gray matter a couple inches in which coincides with what the doctor says when mentions pulling bits of bullet out of your head.
ummm.... you do know that the nuclear arms treaty... was signed AFTER we dropped the nuke on japan. Thats the reason why we signed it. we saw the destruction first hand
nnivi2 yeah, and it only applies to governments and their armies, it doesnt apply to civilians. And what I said was it doesnt apply to Fallout because one of the terms of the Geneva convention is a ban on thermal and nuclear weapons, and a major event in Fallout is the entire world getting nuked, er go, obviously the governments of the Fallout universe stopped abiding by the convention. Also, it bans flamethrowers which are in the game as US army standard equipment. So, saying the pistol had to shoot ball ammo because the geneva convention says so is 100% bullshit
grandobsidian its just a game not real life seriously the game could make it a parallel universe to ours meaning either a different Geneva convention or no Geneva convention at all .
Lol. Not to mention no criminal in history has ever said "I hope you don't terribly mind too much but I have to run to the store before I kill you. All I have is hallow points and turns out the Geneva convention says I have to use ball ammo."
grandobsidian Let's assume that the Geneva Convention was still in effect around the time the bombs fell. Granted, the whole thing was thrown out of the window when they fell, but that's irrelevant considering it was the end of everything and nobody would care about a treaty if it came to that anyway. So all ammo manufactured before the war was manufactured in accordance with the Geneva Convention. This means ammo scavenged post-great war in the Fallout games is this ammo and ammo made post-war is based off of these plans. The Geneva Convention is relevant as it more or less dictates the ammo found in game.
Themew42 But the two universes were exactly the same up until the 1950s.
All my memories are coming back
I just got this in my recommended in mid July 2020. Noice
This always gets me about X-Men. In X-Men origins, Wolverine is shot in the front of the head, the frontal lobe, which is dealing with problem solving. Realistically, our Wolverine should get up and forget how to walk, not forget his past.
***** So what? In the movie he lost his memory and his point is that his frontal lobe doesn't store memory, it manages problem solving.
***** Makes sense now, just didn't totally understand your comment.
Maybe the memory loss happened on the exit. Exit wounds are usually larger than entry. This is specially true when it comes to close ranged shots, and with larger calibers. The shot to his face was near point blank, and, did you see the size of those adamantium motherbeepers? They were bigger than Matt's unspecified body part!!!
I think it's possible the bullet entered his brain through the frontal lobe, made it's devastating way to his memory center and then it flew free out of his skull... But whereas the frontal (Entry) damage was small enough for his Healing Factor to fix it as soon as it happened, the damage to his back (Exit) was likely a huge and disgusting crater the movie's PG rating didn't allow on screen. Perhaps the time his power took to patch that up wasn't fast enough to stop a severe trauma from happening, making him lose all of his short and most of his medium term memory.
This would also explain why he was still functional, as in capable of Speech, walking, dealing with social rules, etc.
Of course I may be very wrong, given I've only watched that denial of a movie once, but that's my idea xD
Thiago Freitas Makes sense.
Now do one on how the sniper rifle from fallout 3 kept in poor condition can still manage to separate the head into eyeballs and meaty bits.
It doesn't matter if it is in poor condition, if the ammo is good and the shot actually gets out, it's going to do the same damage, kinda. A worn, shot up M107 can still explode your head, it actually happened in Afghanistan before. A Marine's Barret got shot in the magwell and the internals got damaged but he still used it for months
krazykalash I didn't know that, that's pretty interesting.
Still my favourite episode of game theory. Shame the ending got scuffed due to copyright claims
Hello fellow person from the future!
10:16 hahahahah I can just HEAR him grinning sarcastically
I am hopeing Inaho survives the head shot
edit: He lives!!!
Yes I hope so also he was my favorite character
Please do..... I'm hoping that this theory will be applied to Inaho and Asseylum.......
He needs to, the power of MC will prevent him from dying. ITS FOOL PROOF
Inaho is 100% applying the Courier's situation. The problem is Asseylum. She got shot at the side, the temple. Which is..... extremely vulnerable..... I'm very worried.
maybe he will just lose 1 eye and still be our MC in season 2. I really hope so.
I got shot in the face wit a an air soft gun
Any video with my good friend Phineas Gage is a good video. He actually rode back into town and when he was talking to the doctor, the doctor didn't believe he actually had a metal rod go through his head!
I'd like to thank the UA-cam algorithm for reminding me of this gem 9 years later.