@@literallylaw agreed, I'm saying there's less justification because the bad gunplay was used to encourage a different kind if play in Dishonored, here it just hurts the experience
it's so sad to see a once great videogame studio to die in a way like this and arkane is not the only one if we count also the great studios that died prematurely because andrew and bobby need to buy a new yacht. it's either two things: suits that have no idea how the videogame market works and tank a studio (like arkane) or studios that have been around for long enough to become so big that the original people who founded it are no longer around, leading to a slow death. I used to dream to work at valve and blizzard and other giants of the industry when i was growing up playing their games but nowadays i'm more than happy to be working for a smaller studio filled with veteran devs that decided to make their own thing and that are passionate about the project. i can tell you that since 2015 the amount of AAA games that i can personally say have been worth buying can be counted on two hands, while indie titles are several dozens. i hope i'm wrong but these games with hundreds of millions of budget don't seem to be a sustainable way of making games, you can see the same happening in hollywood. Either because they're following the current trends, trying to play it safe or just make everything in their power to squeeze wallets as hard as they can, players are starting to get tired of this crap. 70 bucks for a game is quite a lot, even more so nowadays with the current economical climate and to be honest i think that a very tiny amount of AAA titles can be deemed worth the price, most releases in the past 3-4 years in particular are not even worth a third of that, some aren't worth playing even for free. Sometimes it feels like we're getting to see a modern day videogame industry collapse like it happened in the 80s and if there's one part of the market that is more likely to survive is the indie devs. The bigger they are, the harder they fall and many are just hollow husks of their former self, waiting to trip one final time.
Bro, preach. I feel every single point made here. I'm glad to have people like this in my audience. Cause yes. That's exactly what I'm trying to convey.
@@literallylaw since youtube always works great, my comment got deleted while i was typing it because i pressed backspace to fix a typo and instead of doing what it was supposed to do, it just went back to the previous webpage, so i'll try instead to get to the point sooner and without messing up. I had to add to my previous comment after rewatching the video to at least leave a hopeful note. Trust me, there's plenty of devs that feel the same way, i've had the privilege of meeting, talking and make friends with awesome people in this industry. Some of them have been at it for 20 or more years and they just want to make fun games but got fucked sideways way too many times by bad management and this is a tale that gets more and more frequent, the more years of experience someone you're talking to has. I'm incredibly lucky to work with the studio i'm working for, they're an awesome bunch of people, they treat employees well, they're trying to make something that they themselves want to play and enjoy making. i'm not saying this to just pay lip service to my employers, i genuinely believe it because not only they gave me a chance when i needed it the most, i had nothing but positive interactions with them and i can comfortably turn down other job offers for twice the pay because when i wake up in the morning i am reminded every day that i work on a game i really like, with good people that genuinely care about their work and their colleagues and friends wellbeing. I've been in this industry for a little over 2 and a half years and i went from jaded player to hopeful dev. Having the chance to speak with other devs, hear their stories and hopes and dreams and see them work gave me back some hope. It's no coincidence that more and more studios founded by ex devs of X studio are popping up in recent years. People get in the industry because they want to make something cool (at least most of them), they spend their years breaking their backs on something they like and after years of successes, failures, stress and a thousand other things, some decide to pick up their stuff and go set up shop on their own. A good chunk of them have been squeezed dry by big studios, many endured just out of pure love for their profession but eventually there comes a breaking point and then they leave. As 70% of the original Arkane is gone, i think that's precisely what happened: people have been forced to make something that they hated and also probably because it went against their principles. But as developers leave studios, they will sooner or later join better ones or make their own and i think that even if it's sad and unfortunate that the giants and pioneers of the industry succumb to death by thousand papercuts as they get hollowed out, the positive thing is that new studios are emerging from it with new ideas, willing to make something more personal and take bigger risks. After all it's in the nature of all things to decay and eventually die and that's why this whole situation in the industry is kinda bitter-sweet to me. I know the games that i used to play back in the 90s and early 2000s gave me the best memories i could hope for as kid from the countryside (arcades, Game boy games, Half Life, UT, quake, Halo CE, MGS, CoD, GoW, Splinter Cell, Civ3 and many more) and probably i will never be able to experience that again with those franchises newest instalments but on the other side of the coin i know that i don't have to still hold on to those because if i look around there are countless gems i can play. Seems like a grim situation with botched releases, non working ports, 70$ shovelware up and in front of your face all the time, but if you allow yourself to explore you can still find tons of games that are worth your time and that will leave a good memory. Working as a dev surely helped this shift in perspective but it really started years ago when i didn't have the money for AAA titles and i decided to give indies and AA games a deeper look. If i ever feel that i want to play a good halo game i'm not hoping infinite will get better or get mad because it sucks, i remind myself how good the first halo games were (1,2,3 odst & reach) by playing them again and bring back the memories and good times, same with other games. On the other side of the coin the fresh, interesting, crazy and memorable experiences are much easier to find when you don't look at AAA, simply because it's most likely that the people who are making a particular game, are making it out of love and passion because they don't have the burden of massive studios that can't be nimble and massive budgets that force them to play it safe. If they want success they need to take risks, and that's how most of the best games and studios started: with passion, an idea and a good amount of balls to risk it all to make it come true. Many failed but if you think about it, most of the giants that are dying now started this way and as they die the cycle continues. You're making good videos man, keep it up. As a player and as a dev i can sum it up in this TLDR: not all hope is lost. you've got to dig through some dirt to find some diamonds and in the process you'll find something that you completely did not expect and you'll kick yourself for not having looked earlier, because the best stuff can come from the most unexpected sources, not necessarily only from the giants of the industry. See you on the next video!
Another riveting read. Thanks for all this, can't say I am as hopeful and optimistic as you are, and trust me I own thousands of indies. It's the only reason I even made a gaming PC bevause most of them didn't get ported to consoles back in the day. I just can't find myself being as hopeful as you when I see these horrid degenerate mega corps still raking in billions. Their continued existence itself is a blight on the industy and a cancer. I think the day I'll be happy with gaming as a whole is the day they actually collapse. Which may never come since the average consumer is a fool. But, thank you. I will continue making videos, I'll continue covering all sorts of games. And I'll for sure look forward to any other comments you take the time to write in such detail. 🙂
@@literallylaw keep going man and trust me. when the big ones get greedy and slowly fall, more and more people will do it themselves. have faith, the darkest is right before dawn
25:33 Wow that guy seems very cool, I bet he's very handsome and talks to a lot of women, I am going to give him all of my earthly possessions and then bear his children
Where Arkane died, WolfEye Studios lives on, so long partner.... All we can do is keep looking upon the future and observe the genre of the immersive sim. Thanks you for this video
It’s really sad how no game studio can be counted on to not sell its customers down the river now, I’m still holding out on From I hope I’m not proven wrong
Redfall looks like absolut video game slop to me, like some of the newer marvel movies or bad fast food thats for some reason priced like a michelin star meal.
It does feel like this these days. Every time Microsoft buys a studio I feel a sense of dread about the future of that studio. They just seem to be atrocious at actually managing and supporting the devs they buy.
Oh I know. Its just most people don't. Most people seem to thing if it still has the logo and the company name that nothing has changed. But it's a real ship of Theseus scenario.
I remember watching a trailer for this game a while back because a friend recommended it to me, and I just cringed my way through the whole thing. Enjoy your goyslop, I guess. Why can't AAA games be good 😭
I personally do not believe Arkane is dead cause that feels rather hyperbolic, Lyon still exists and i think Deathloop at the very least carried the arkane feel let alone we have former Arkane devs working on other projects now. Basically let me say this, i like *aspects* of Redfall, but those aspects feel like outliers in a messy overall experience, one that Zenimax wanted despite Arkane being a *single-player dev studio* . Like hmmmmm i wonder why Redfall feels like a mess, anyway said aspects lean more into the mc character designs and the vamps, it just sucks that these designs don't translate into enjoyable fights. Another thing is hidden details that Arkane is typically known for, but again you have to find this stuff behind a mediocre experience so the effort feels wasted. All in all i don't find Redfall to be the worst thing i've ever played, a little bad, some decent bits but ultimately kinda just exists. Here's hoping Lyon gets to make another sp game and the devs who left get to make what they actually want.
That's the thing, I don't something incredibly middle of the road to be worse than something good or bad, because it feels like it's just boring more than anything. I hope Arkane have a nice big comeback, but so far I don't see it happening under Microsoft. If it does I'll be happy.
11:10 dont forget, the gun play was intentionally made stiff to discourage using the loud firearms in Dishonored, and to stay stealthy
Well there's zero design reasons for it being this bad in this game 😭
@@literallylaw agreed, I'm saying there's less justification because the bad gunplay was used to encourage a different kind if play in Dishonored, here it just hurts the experience
it's so sad to see a once great videogame studio to die in a way like this and arkane is not the only one if we count also the great studios that died prematurely because andrew and bobby need to buy a new yacht.
it's either two things: suits that have no idea how the videogame market works and tank a studio (like arkane) or studios that have been around for long enough to become so big that the original people who founded it are no longer around, leading to a slow death.
I used to dream to work at valve and blizzard and other giants of the industry when i was growing up playing their games but nowadays i'm more than happy to be working for a smaller studio filled with veteran devs that decided to make their own thing and that are passionate about the project.
i can tell you that since 2015 the amount of AAA games that i can personally say have been worth buying can be counted on two hands, while indie titles are several dozens.
i hope i'm wrong but these games with hundreds of millions of budget don't seem to be a sustainable way of making games, you can see the same happening in hollywood. Either because they're following the current trends, trying to play it safe or just make everything in their power to squeeze wallets as hard as they can, players are starting to get tired of this crap.
70 bucks for a game is quite a lot, even more so nowadays with the current economical climate and to be honest i think that a very tiny amount of AAA titles can be deemed worth the price, most releases in the past 3-4 years in particular are not even worth a third of that, some aren't worth playing even for free.
Sometimes it feels like we're getting to see a modern day videogame industry collapse like it happened in the 80s and if there's one part of the market that is more likely to survive is the indie devs.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall and many are just hollow husks of their former self, waiting to trip one final time.
Bro, preach. I feel every single point made here. I'm glad to have people like this in my audience. Cause yes. That's exactly what I'm trying to convey.
@@literallylaw since youtube always works great, my comment got deleted while i was typing it because i pressed backspace to fix a typo and instead of doing what it was supposed to do, it just went back to the previous webpage, so i'll try instead to get to the point sooner and without messing up. I had to add to my previous comment after rewatching the video to at least leave a hopeful note.
Trust me, there's plenty of devs that feel the same way, i've had the privilege of meeting, talking and make friends with awesome people in this industry. Some of them have been at it for 20 or more years and they just want to make fun games but got fucked sideways way too many times by bad management and this is a tale that gets more and more frequent, the more years of experience someone you're talking to has. I'm incredibly lucky to work with the studio i'm working for, they're an awesome bunch of people, they treat employees well, they're trying to make something that they themselves want to play and enjoy making. i'm not saying this to just pay lip service to my employers, i genuinely believe it because not only they gave me a chance when i needed it the most, i had nothing but positive interactions with them and i can comfortably turn down other job offers for twice the pay because when i wake up in the morning i am reminded every day that i work on a game i really like, with good people that genuinely care about their work and their colleagues and friends wellbeing.
I've been in this industry for a little over 2 and a half years and i went from jaded player to hopeful dev. Having the chance to speak with other devs, hear their stories and hopes and dreams and see them work gave me back some hope. It's no coincidence that more and more studios founded by ex devs of X studio are popping up in recent years. People get in the industry because they want to make something cool (at least most of them), they spend their years breaking their backs on something they like and after years of successes, failures, stress and a thousand other things, some decide to pick up their stuff and go set up shop on their own. A good chunk of them have been squeezed dry by big studios, many endured just out of pure love for their profession but eventually there comes a breaking point and then they leave.
As 70% of the original Arkane is gone, i think that's precisely what happened: people have been forced to make something that they hated and also probably because it went against their principles. But as developers leave studios, they will sooner or later join better ones or make their own and i think that even if it's sad and unfortunate that the giants and pioneers of the industry succumb to death by thousand papercuts as they get hollowed out, the positive thing is that new studios are emerging from it with new ideas, willing to make something more personal and take bigger risks. After all it's in the nature of all things to decay and eventually die and that's why this whole situation in the industry is kinda bitter-sweet to me. I know the games that i used to play back in the 90s and early 2000s gave me the best memories i could hope for as kid from the countryside (arcades, Game boy games, Half Life, UT, quake, Halo CE, MGS, CoD, GoW, Splinter Cell, Civ3 and many more) and probably i will never be able to experience that again with those franchises newest instalments but on the other side of the coin i know that i don't have to still hold on to those because if i look around there are countless gems i can play.
Seems like a grim situation with botched releases, non working ports, 70$ shovelware up and in front of your face all the time, but if you allow yourself to explore you can still find tons of games that are worth your time and that will leave a good memory. Working as a dev surely helped this shift in perspective but it really started years ago when i didn't have the money for AAA titles and i decided to give indies and AA games a deeper look. If i ever feel that i want to play a good halo game i'm not hoping infinite will get better or get mad because it sucks, i remind myself how good the first halo games were (1,2,3 odst & reach) by playing them again and bring back the memories and good times, same with other games. On the other side of the coin the fresh, interesting, crazy and memorable experiences are much easier to find when you don't look at AAA, simply because it's most likely that the people who are making a particular game, are making it out of love and passion because they don't have the burden of massive studios that can't be nimble and massive budgets that force them to play it safe. If they want success they need to take risks, and that's how most of the best games and studios started: with passion, an idea and a good amount of balls to risk it all to make it come true. Many failed but if you think about it, most of the giants that are dying now started this way and as they die the cycle continues.
You're making good videos man, keep it up. As a player and as a dev i can sum it up in this TLDR: not all hope is lost. you've got to dig through some dirt to find some diamonds and in the process you'll find something that you completely did not expect and you'll kick yourself for not having looked earlier, because the best stuff can come from the most unexpected sources, not necessarily only from the giants of the industry.
See you on the next video!
Another riveting read. Thanks for all this, can't say I am as hopeful and optimistic as you are, and trust me I own thousands of indies. It's the only reason I even made a gaming PC bevause most of them didn't get ported to consoles back in the day.
I just can't find myself being as hopeful as you when I see these horrid degenerate mega corps still raking in billions. Their continued existence itself is a blight on the industy and a cancer. I think the day I'll be happy with gaming as a whole is the day they actually collapse. Which may never come since the average consumer is a fool.
But, thank you. I will continue making videos, I'll continue covering all sorts of games. And I'll for sure look forward to any other comments you take the time to write in such detail. 🙂
@@literallylaw keep going man and trust me. when the big ones get greedy and slowly fall, more and more people will do it themselves. have faith, the darkest is right before dawn
3:58 Thank you for the fullscreen shot this is absolutely brilliant
Happy to provide 😂
25:33 Wow that guy seems very cool, I bet he's very handsome and talks to a lot of women, I am going to give him all of my earthly possessions and then bear his children
Yeah, A real human bean that one 👀
Where Arkane died, WolfEye Studios lives on, so long partner.... All we can do is keep looking upon the future and observe the genre of the immersive sim. Thanks you for this video
Happy to have you here bro, I agree, we just have to look to the future
i thoroughly enjoyed your video and your other videos. hopefully you will blow up soon.
Thank you, glad you liked em. Even if I don't, I started doing this as a creative hobby, I'll keep doing it as a creative hobby :)
It’s really sad how no game studio can be counted on to not sell its customers down the river now, I’m still holding out on From I hope I’m not proven wrong
FromSoft have so far not missed once imo. If there's anyone to count on its then.
The Hunter’s Dream music 👀🔥
Only the silkiest of music allowed here.
Redfall looks like absolut video game slop to me, like some of the newer marvel movies or bad fast food thats for some reason priced like a michelin star meal.
That's exactly how it felt playing it man. Total slop. 😭
hey remember me the one who told you that arcane game dishonored was my favorite game Imagin my reaction when this came out.
I do :) and yeah, this game really is a kick in the balls to all dishonored fans.
“Redfail” - videogamedunkey
😭
Thanks for your sacrifice law lmao
Someone's gotta do it 😂
Fire video🔥🔥🔥
Glad you liked it :)
Microsoft is the new EA. Instead of shutting the studios down though they fade into obscurity.
It does feel like this these days. Every time Microsoft buys a studio I feel a sense of dread about the future of that studio.
They just seem to be atrocious at actually managing and supporting the devs they buy.
Prey is one of my favorite games ever!
Good taste :)
Sadly this happens to dev teams all the time Bungie isnt the same team that made Halo. Some day Tod Howard wont be at Bethesda anymore.
Oh I know. Its just most people don't. Most people seem to thing if it still has the logo and the company name that nothing has changed. But it's a real ship of Theseus scenario.
didn't know it was this bad, shame
I wish it hadn't been. Not a pleasant discovery to make first hand.
“I don’t have the best pc but I can run RDR2 with everything set to ultra at a consistent 100 fps.”
Sounds like you have a pretty good pc
Moment I hit record at the same time as RDR2 my whole PC tanks. 😂
So trust me, nowhere near the top percentile of today.
I remember watching a trailer for this game a while back because a friend recommended it to me, and I just cringed my way through the whole thing.
Enjoy your goyslop, I guess.
Why can't AAA games be good 😭
It looked bad since day one.
I personally do not believe Arkane is dead cause that feels rather hyperbolic, Lyon still exists and i think Deathloop at the very least carried the arkane feel let alone we have former Arkane devs working on other projects now.
Basically let me say this, i like *aspects* of Redfall, but those aspects feel like outliers in a messy overall experience, one that Zenimax wanted despite Arkane being a *single-player dev studio* .
Like hmmmmm i wonder why Redfall feels like a mess, anyway said aspects lean more into the mc character designs and the vamps, it just sucks that these designs don't translate into enjoyable fights. Another thing is hidden details that Arkane is typically known for, but again you have to find this stuff behind a mediocre experience so the effort feels wasted.
All in all i don't find Redfall to be the worst thing i've ever played, a little bad, some decent bits but ultimately kinda just exists. Here's hoping Lyon gets to make another sp game and the devs who left get to make what they actually want.
That's the thing, I don't something incredibly middle of the road to be worse than something good or bad, because it feels like it's just boring more than anything.
I hope Arkane have a nice big comeback, but so far I don't see it happening under Microsoft.
If it does I'll be happy.
eh for me i think it can happen but without a doubt its on Microsoft for not giving a shit about the project, just letting zenimax get away with it
That's the thing, will Microsoft learn their lesson?
Can only hope with how a couple of their last few titles have gone.