The Superteam That Can’t Win: Phoenix Suns Exposed
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Only the media thought the suns were a title favorite.
Their owner is a criminal for destroying their franchise for the next decade given the GM is just a puppet
on paper they would win the championship, but they are not playing in the paper playoffs
@@leoneildy2224 I don't think so. Even on paper, the team balance is just bad. Plenty of basketball fans were saying the Beal trade didn't make sense.
They sacrificed everything for offense, but defence wins games. KD once got roasted by a comedian for throwing adhominem and trying to argue that offense wins games, but the comedian fired right back, calling KD just a side piece pea shooter and that Warriors really didn't need him to win championships.
I think most fans saw this coming.
@@leoneildy2224 on paper im still taking Harden, Leonard, George and Westbrook over Beal, Durant, and Booker
AGREED 100%.
The phoenix Buns pulled out a play straight from the old Brooklyn nets playbook
Not the same at all
You spelled bums wrong
Yep, they got cooked real nice.
@@lc41086buns, bums they stink regardless the odor is TERRIBLE
Iso gang!
I could honestly see the Timberwolves giving the Nuggets quite the run for their money.
It's a tossup between them tbh. The wolves almost won without Naz, Gobert, and KAT. Kyle Anderson played the 5 lmao but that's also regular season.
They match up really well, TWolves offensive deficiencies is what will cause them to lose.
As well as Nuggets defensive deficiencies, it is a toss up between these two.
Wolves are a legit contender
@@jerikohthe Nuggets have a decent defense, their offense is more than enough to compensate for their defensive issues at least, I know these series will be super exciting but I still have Denver in 6
booker has already so many fathers already hahah
LMAO.
At this point Luka is his grandfather 😂
they’re gonna have to fight each other for custody of little Book
i think of ant as kds father instead of booker
He also has many kids of his own.....
The Bradley Beal trade will go down as the worst trade of all time not kd trade.
there are worse trades, but sure
Definitely because they have no way of making the team better now because no team will take him unless you also bundle it with picks they don’t have or players they don’t have
Beal done for…not everyone ages like Bron and KD you already see Beal slowing down like crazy
One of the worst, but I don't think it's beating Celtics trading aging KG/Paul Pierce to the Nets for massive amount of picks anytime soon
Lakers westbrook trade
The ironic thing is the Gobert trade made the Durant trade more expensive and ultimately more costly for Phoenix. People clowned the Wolves for that trade; two bigs won’t work, Gobert can be played off the floor, all those picks. But what Minnesota was able to do the that trade and Phoenix couldn’t was keep core rotation players like 3-and-D Jaden McDaniels and now 6-man-of-the-year Naz Reid.
Personally I don't actually think it did. Minnesota also called up Brooklyn for KD and they wanted either kat or ant plus a ton of draft capital. Basically they said they asked for too much for KD, so they said no and then got Gobert instead. I think that trade season was always gonna be wildly expensive even if we didn't trade for gobert judging by how much the nets asked for KD before the Gobert trade even happened.
Shut out to the wolves for figuring out putting Gobert and KAT together. I was very high on the trade when it first happened as I can see how adding Gobert could potentially lift Wolves ceiling by a lot, only to be very disappointed. Hence I am super happy to see it works out.
Nuggets VS Wolves would be hard for me as I like both Joker and Antman.
@@dontbedummy8101it seems more like a Western Conference Finals tbh than the Semi Finals lol
The only smart move the Suns can make this off season would be to trade Durant and Booker for as many picks and young players that they can get and go into full rebuild mode. Beal has a no trade clause so they are stuck with him. They have to blow it up and trade those guys why they can get value out of them otherwise they will end up like the 2010s Nets, a place no team wants to be.
Trading Book is likely out the equation. They should try to get whatever value they can out of trading KD though.
@@NewGoldie Sure but if Suns trade Durant and then miss the playoffs, sooner or later Booker will try and force a trade out of Phoenix at which case his value will tank and the haul they can get for him will probably be diminished.
@@MistyKathrine Lol then they better not miss the playoffs then. But they simply cant trade Booker so abruptly. They still gotta sell tickets at the end of the day. If Booker ends up wanting out they'll still recoup a lot for him. Hell look what Phoenix gave up for KD when he wanted out of Brooklyn.
@@NewGoldiethey are definitely not making the playoffs next season currently constructed might as well rebuild asap.
@@Shawnjohson1608 Ehh that isnt a guarantee. If Beal is healthy(ish) next season they'll win enough games to make the playoffs.
I think the Suns with CP3, Booker, Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and Ayton has better shot against Wolves. hahaha. The current Suns basically only has shooting but no any sort of defense and playmaking. Only Durant is a good defender in their starting lineup while even Wolves doesn't have good offense still able to demolish Suns poor defense.
All the Suns needed to do was to adjust the lineup by trading CP3 and the no-longer-locked-in Ayton. What a joke they traded the farm for KD and then traded the remaining of the farm for Beal.
You NEVER trade for a 34 year old hired gun, who's already popped an Achilles, frail and a bit soft...
Just shows your how important a PG is and how good cp3 really was
Cp3 a cornball man. Theirs a reason he ain’t got a ring yet buddy.
@@lc41086true. But I think he would be hell of a lot more effective than Beal has been these playoffs.
@@lc41086was the team better with him or with kd and beal 😂😂 chris paul went to finals…. kd went to first round
@@lc41086cp3 ain't getting you a ring
This current team ain't getting you close.
The better choice is now clear enough in hindsight.
And well in fact the suns got swept by my Wolves!! GO WOLVES!!!
KD said offense beats out defense....like, did he miss the whole history of the NBA? All the teams that have won were top 10 in defense
He is stupid
Cant blame KD. I talk to a lot of casual NBA fans and they think the same thing. Probably didnt realize the importance Draymond was when he left Golden State thinking his and Kyrie's offense will lead him to more titles.
Idk bro there’s a thing that says the team with more 3 pointers has an 80% more chance of winning look at jimmyhighroller vid about the nba being unpredictable
@user-uu7mq8bx4t which is why defense becomes even more critical. I know which video you are talking, I think it was the same video or some other one where he mentioned that 3s are high risk high reward points. So if you are defense can even make a 3 point shooter miss half of his 3s you are still going to come out on top as long as you have a successful possession on other side.
Yup, we're getting ready to clean our brooms off so we can relax before we play the nuggets
very good video. yea keep going your content is elite for this niche. you gonna be big.
Yup. The Suns may be done. Have they given enough meaningful minutes to some players on the bench? Is there sunlight there? Can they develop some of these players?
Great work as usual bro
The best thing the Suns can do is see what kind of trade package they can get for Booker. If they can get 3-4 first round picks and maybe a good player or two, I say trade him away. Those picks would become their future. You would have thought that teams would have learned with the infamous KG/Pierce to the Nets trade, but clearly, some teams did not.
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I never looked at the Suns as a “SuperTeam” 😂
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@@hardwood_yt "more like pooperteam." my 7 year old
Watching most of their games thru the season, I can tell you the main problems I saw (after everybody was healthy - mainly Beal from his early injury) was this team was hot and cold all damn season. The only two that were almost always consistent in scoring was KD and Booker. The rest of the team would be on fire for a game and then disappear for a couple games, sometimes a week. Need more consistency in their shooting accuracy. And then the damn turnovers were a problem as well. The other teams would get an 8 point lead and for the reasons I just listed, could not catch them. They'd sometimes tie or even take the lead only to be back down by 8 within a minute. Hot, cold, hot, cold. I would finally just turn the damn tv off I was so angry watching us miss over and over or turning it over and then the other team would make every thing they threw up. They were so bad sometimes at shooting that it seemed like the only practice they had before the current game was the shoot around before the game started.
Well they tried going the draft route...and it flopped. So how can you blame them? If you can pair KD with booker, and then add beal and nurkic, that should make you a borderline contender
This proves exactly what I said when it was announced the suns were signing Bradley Beal they needed some defense, not more offense.
The suns breaking up their young core that made it to the finals is like GS breaking up the team just before they became a dynasty. Its just obviously moronic to throw away a team like that before you know how good they will be. But the NBA has a win now mentality where you arent allowed to build up for years. If you get 1 star in a draft, you have to morgage everything to bring in other stars to win now. Nobody thinks about the need for good young role players or team chemistry
Great presentation. Thank you.
thank YOU!
They blew up their core to have 3 ball dominate players and no role players. It never works.
Baby Book so shook he wants to run out east
Good on Beal for getting that sweetheart deal. That sure was a cushy clause to include in a contract; all but guarantees job security imo.
The Suns disaster exposes how little the media know about team building.
I never thought K.D. would do anything here either. Dude can score, but he is a bus rider, He got no DOG in him. He probably tries to force another trade out this off season.
Top ten in points but has no dawg u bet ur one dem ppl that said he only win cuz of curry
@@Ilovemylightskinqueens I'm not wrong tho
I love that this is happening to the Suns. My hope is Rockets GM Rafael Stone is paying attention.
All teams moving forward can learn from this. It's not super teams that win chips, its team with 2 superstars who compliment each other supported by a deep young well constructed supporting cast. I am a SUNs fan and I am sick to my stomach. We're cooked, and the only way out of this is if Bradley Beal is willing to be traded or if we trade KD for some first round picks and a some good role players. Cuz if we trade away Booker who IS STILL IN HIS PRIME, then it means the SUNs are blowing the team up!
Very very good video. I also said that the Suns have no chance with this roster, because of their lack of defense and bench depth. Only scoring is not enough. I played 3 on 3 since 30 years and when only one of my teammate was weak in defense, we lost every game. Maybe this is not comparable, but without a good defense you have no chance in the playoffs.
People like Mat Ishbia think, when they were successful in another business, they will be successful in sports too. But when you have no clue of this sports (or another), you just gambling and mostly loosing at the end.
KD is one of my favorite players but thë Suns really can’t get æ win to save their lives 😂
if your starters don’t know how to play defense why not try the bench . You got Bol Bol and t young Fran Vogel is just bad bad coach . 😂
Bro thought he was in 2K 😂
Not a suns fan obviously but I woulda told you they weren't doing it this year.
I heard the hype but there was no way they were making this stick. I mean you nailed how bad the contracts will be in the near future for them, but even as a fairly casual fan I thought the suns were absolute idiots for selling out on depth like a year ago. When you make it to the finals and let one slip like they did, you usually only get ONE more chance to make it stick . . . so when they blew it to the Mavs I was pretty sure it was over for them. Now I'm not a huge KD hater, but that trade just made me throw up all the red flags, because it guarantees your future is gonna be out of money. That year had to be THE year. That trade was their committment, and when it couldn't stick then I went from pretty sure to REALLY sure their window was done. Depth was already gone, future mortgaged, depth already cracking (and likely to get worse), and a rather old core.
The suns manager needs IQ test
A mansion that they could afford because the owner is rich but a mansion that they don’t need.
If you have a 'Big 3' it would help if at least one of them had leadership potential.
To me, and so many others, this group of 3 was from the day of the Beal trade just a 'Big Overlap' on top of the leadership problem.
The most INEFFICIENT roster imaginable. And at _that_ price? So dumb.
I really liked the team they had before the Durant trade. If they were patient and build around that team they would have been better off.
OKC laughing at your take on Minnesota being the only challenge.
I have to liken the Suns to the Bucks the past couple years...both made the 2021 finals and had a competitive series...both teams have tried to fix what wasn't really broken since...big trades, new coaches...just to go backwards. The Bucks were another top 3 seed again last year as it was under coach Bud the past 5 or 6 years. They get beat by a Heat team that has also made a couple finals the past few years and it's time to sell out, rather than admit that it's just really hard to go to the finals every single season
What makes the Suns a superteam and not the T Wolves?
Amazing video as always bro
I do recall push back on these pundits who said this team was a title contender. They said they don’t have a bench. Colin Cowherd said they don’t need a bench because this is a star’s league. Ooops!
Lol so funny man. Yeah I think Stephen A was hesistant. I just love that the common narrative was "it's Kevin Durant" and the cost didnt matter
Ready to comment after the Wolves just got done sweeping the Suns. Who knew not having a player at the most important position in the sport (Point Guard) wouldn't yield much success for a team?
Incredible organizational collapse
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But this is fire 🔥🔥🔥
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@hardwood_yt Nah you at 19k views now, hang in there! You make great content. I'll sub
@@cwatson42785 haha I’m happy. Thanks man!!!
@@hardwood_yt not as cooked at the Matt throne channel
I remember saying this wouldn't work and everyone gave me crap for it
I have a couple of NBA teams I would love to see win it all Timberwolves, thunder, Pacers,Knicks,Clippers and mavericks but one problem there can only be one to win 😂😂😂
When will these owners and Gm learn, you dont blow up your team for one player.
Book and Beal going down ringless
I think its time to get some young stars around d booker rather than kd and beal, as they are getting old. I'd try and get some pg like tre jones or someone from bench that can playmake without turning it over. A proper big rim protector and someone who can shoot from outside with 40%
Were they really a “super team”? 😅 Also, I still blame Skip Bayless for saying what he said when KD was traded to Phoenix. He jinxed KD 🤣
I was rooting for the Suns in their finals run. I knew they'd be back.
Then they traded for KD, and i thought it might take a bit more..
Then they went to acquire Beal. I knew they were cooked, man.
The Suns are going back to irrelevance sooner in my lifetime than I thought they would. Honestly, it almost seems like the owner came in with sabotage as his goal. He just wanted to see how fast he run a team financially and competitively into the ground.
If I’m the GM I’m trading KD to the highest bidder for draft capital, unfortunately you stuck with Beal unless you can finesse
wolves fan here, great video hope we prevail against the nuggets
Excluding “on court Durant” ,I low key blame the players too. I feel like they’re often low effort.
yeah there's no urgency it feels. or chemistry/heart to this team.
Whoever thinks that Bradley Beal is the missing piece should be blame for this mess. Last offseason, they should consider Jrue Holiday. They could trigger a 3-way trade with the Bucks and Blazers where Lillard goes to the Bucks and Ayton goes to Blazers. Maybe they could get Nurkic in that trade too. And then CP3 would have traded for depth.
Booker is stat padder then chokes when needed. Idk but people keep saying he is the next Kobe.
Idk how they actually spend time to analyze this... Theres nothing to analyze about because its too obvious. People who watch basketball knew exactly when they traded away all the role players for Bradley Beal, they were not winning anything. They were bound to fail from that trade.
I'm betting in the timberwolves right now 🙌
If lakers and suns create a upset, this would be the craziest playoffs in history 😂
What world do you live in? Never going to happen.
@@ryanwall1780 it was a joke.. wasn't type serious or anything
Superteams and big threes just don't work. They just lack depth.
The gotta trade KD and salvage what they can. Could get at least two first out of him (maybe more, slightly less). Then hope those picks hit and they’ll have another window with Booker. If not… we’ll I’ve heard KAT and Booker have always wanted to play together
A KAT for KD trade would be insane lol.
As soon as I seen that the suns lost a PG and traded for Beal I knew they were cooked.
I don't get it...
Are NBA Analyst and some sect of fans blind or they just don't understand what basketball is... I had important statements at during regular season when Damian came to Milwaukee and when Beal came to Phoenix. That these two teams are not going to win. Heck, they won't even see conference finals. I was laughed at.
And here we are Suns out and Bucks on verge to be out.
The irony is the wolves and the gobert trade was the one that was supposed to be the worst trade in nba history but yeah you wouldn't talk about this because that's the bigger story bro
I’m a Wolves fan. Nobody is happier about their recent success than me. They’ll get their video :)
Also Ive made two videos throughout the year on the wolves. Rudy Gobert and KAT.
It wasn't a great trade, but flipping D-Lo for Conley and getting NAW as a freebie plus picks like Leonard Miller does make up for it. Connelly been in the kitchen cooking since he got to MN
The media seems to be of the belief that trading your future for aging superstars is low risk high reward decision.
Team building over anything else.
Owners should let there GMs build teams. Honestly most of these big trades are pushed by the owners, and I cant really remember a big trade that ends up working out. I'm not talking about trades like K Love for Wiggins. I'm talking about the full treasure chest for one man trades.
dont disagree at all. Gotta be freaking hard to be a GM honestly
Whichever team wins the Nuggets vs Wolves series will win the Finals.
I didnt mind the kd trade, the beal trade was the one thats gonna really gonna screw them
And.. a sweep.
This is the modern-day Brooklyn Nets trade that basically ruin their franchise back in 2013 for a super team, suns just did the damn same imo
Idk how their gonna guard us
Multiple DPOY 😂🎉😂😂😂😂 wooo
for real
Would of been great to see reactions of wolves trade for Rudy and the reactions in beginning back to back😂😂😂
Lmao go look at this video: “The Resurrection of Rudy Gobert” on my channel back in November. I clipped a ton of them for the intro. It’s hilarious lol
0:38 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
i was DYING in real time
They should definitely be able to get pics for Booker and Durant. Who knows with Bradley Beal, I definitely think the super team is a flop.
How is it that all these so called Sports Analyst think they will win it all and me a casual sports fan knew immediately that bradley beal, KD and Booker aint a winning team
No team with Chris Paul can ever be trusted to make it over the final hump. He is and has been a habitual choker since his entire career.
KD just can’t get it done without a cast of future Hall of Famers. He’s overrated.
It’s the Kevin Durant Curse.. he should’ve never left OKC for them rings. Now the basketball Gods won’t let him prosper.. love to see it 😂😂
He did it all to himself. he was in a comfortable position in Golden State, couldnt take the fact he wasnt the "guy" and didnt like how the franchise liked Dray more than him. So he left. And could have stayed in Brooklyn when Kyrie left and build a franchise on his own, but instead asked to be traded. And not to any team, he SPECIFICALLY asked to be traded to Phoenix . (I don't mind when players ask to be traded. It's only when they ask to be traded to a specific team is when I have a problem. Players should not be able to choose what team they are traded to. Its holding a franchise hostage when they do that.) So KD gets EXACTLY what he deserves.
Why isn’t Kevin Durant getting the same hate Lebron would get for not winning with a superteam??
Because LeBalco is racist baiting complaining a**hole that thinks he is the goat and that's coming from a guy who doesn't like Durant
Look around bro lol
Uhh Durant gets plenty of hate from the internet
@@hurricanestarang yeah NOWWWW he’s getting it. He should’ve been getting it since the nets
@@soleynate yeah it took for them to get swept when he should’ve got this hate on the nets
They need to just blow it up. Trade Durant and Booker and get lots of picks. I'm sure Beal will agree to a trade at that point.
Except that at $50M/season salary Suns are not going to find a trade partner.
Great intro😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love how owners and teams the last few years are swinging for the fences, going all in! It’s fun and exciting for the regular season and playoffs.
For real. Like I really do appreciate what Ishbia was trying to do. But KD was 100% the wrong player to go after literally only because his age lol.
BLOW IT UP! TRADE ALL OF THEM TBH. Idk fuck it, kd to lakers. Bronnie Bron and KD. First round exit to Denver next year as well! LETS DO IT! 👌👌👌👌👌👌
Lmaoooo
With how incompetent LAL front office seems to be I honestly think this is possible 😂
0:29 they'll double team your ass and you'll fold like a lawn chair
Pretty much like any sport, defense wins championships. KD and Booker both don’t have it.
Suns fans can't blame Ayton anymore 🤣🤣
Super team? Bit of a stretch? Durant is clearly past his best days and Booker is hot and cold.
If it was lebron instead of Durant it would be universally, known as a superteam
point is, that is what everyone viewed them as. They are not that
Media sounding a lot like the Clipper band wagon fans. Who's going to stop the Clippers? I can't see anyone stopping them. Etc etc etc.
Suns bamboozled themselves, beal cannot play off the ball, only booker and Durant duo works, they need a good pg.
I miss the twins.. and Payne too.
Durant is old and those injuries weren’t small injuries .. age and injuries caught up to him ..
To be fair, Rudy was playing horribly when he first got to Minnesota which was making it look worse than what it would eventually turn out to be
100%. It took awhile for everyone to learn how to play with him. Plus he was dealing with back injuries all year and KAT was out for 60 games!
Since it's not going good with the Suns, KD will probably want to go back to the thunder and join all those young guys.
Ive heard people saying KD should go back and LeBron should return to Cleveland. Would be fun lol
@@hardwood_yt I don’t see the thunder trading for KD. Lebron going back to Cleveland I could see that happening
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