You got that color just right, inviting images of the bright blue watercolors in stunning Tahiti and the Bahamas !!! NO dark interior... Recently we had an alligator in our pool to "swim with", (like Steve Irvin) and it is nice to be able to see snakes or what else invite themselves in for a quick dip, just before you jump in...... Thank you for your great video, you sealed my color choices beautifully !!!
Thanks for the compliments! The color did turn out very refreshing especially on a sunny day! I never caught any gators in mine but the occasional snake would cool off in there!
Thank you for posting this. You actually made me change my mind from Aqua Blue to Aqua White. Your pool looks amazing and the water color is exactly what I was envisioning. I love the seashells too!
Hey Jimmy--just wanted to say THANKS for uploading your video of the NPT Aqua White pool finish! I know that it has been a few years, but know that it is still being a valuable resource for those who are building/refinishing their pools today. The video quality is excellent, and gives a very good feel for the water color generated by this surface. As you probably still know, there are not many accessible photos/ videos of the AW pool finish around, so it really helped us to settle on a new pool color. Gracias!!
You're welcome!! It really causes the water to look like the water in a tropical resort pool. It has been close to 2 years and the surface has not faded and still looks amazing. Good Luck with your build!
Thanks for taking the time to post this. Very thoughtful of you to post this. Tough decision for us btwn the Aqua White & the Tropics Blue. You have a beautiful pool!
Thanks Jimmy! You’ve inspired me. I made a video on our Aqua Blue Stonescapes Mini Pebble because the Aqua White was on back order due to COVID. I love both the Aqua White and Aqua Blue. Thanks for making this helpful video. God Bless you!!
The thing I noticed with Aqua Blue is that Aqua Blue has a more greenish blue hue compared to Aqua White where it is really just pure sky blue color with no hue or hint of any green.
I am not a fan of anything green. Our pool is Aqua blue and does not show any green hue at all. We also used a blue glass tile. But don’t get me wrong, I think Jimmy’s pool is beautiful!!!
Much appreciated dude. Love the pool and colour. Was looking around to get a light blue colour but hesitant and came across your vid and loved the pool. Agree dark blue looks like a jungle. lol
Huge help Jimmy and what a beautiful pool you have! Aqua Blue was to touquiois like for me and like you we didn't want any green. We almost choose Aqua Cool for a light blue but it's on the light side. Gonna go with Aqua White and of course add abalone shells but skip the glass beads. Also adding seat and step markers for safety reasons just in case plus they're pretty tiles. We should have it finished in about a week.
Hi Jimmy, I hadn't considered the Aqua White NPT Stonescapes mini pebble. This is beautiful! We will have a white stucco retaining wall, grey coping and natural color concrete on the decking, our pool will be a 15x36 rectangle. 5ft deep. what color would you recommend the water tile? we have selected an opal pearl glass on the tanning ledge, spa and steps. Does the abalone shell make a huge difference in your opinion? Would you recommend I change that to blue? Would love our water to be as close in color to yours! Thanks so much!
Your swimming pool is gorgeous love the color! I'm putting in a pool sometime this week they're coming to dig! We decided to pick Pebble Sheen aqua blue! Pool dimensions are 13'-0 x 27'- 0 surface area is 327' perimeter is 80. Depths are 3'-6 4'-0 5'-0 total gallons of water is 9,810 we also added Bobe sheer waterfall.
As I’m watching this, the guys are spraying the aqua white mini pebble in my pool. This just reinforces my decision (there were so many to choose from), because your pool looks great. Thanks for posting!
Thank you for your video. We loved it. Can you please tell me the names of the color of all the tiles you used? The one I am the most interested in is the glass tile you used on the tanning ledge?
Does the pool finish look sandy colored at the tanning ledge? or is the finish more of a grey color when looking down into the water at the tanning ledge? I want to have a more subtle color transition from stairs to shallow to deep.
Hey I love your pool just want to make sure that this is the Stone scape mini pebble rock all white with the abalone stone getting ready to order the pool plaster hopefully in the next day or two so wanted to make sure I’m copping your pool it’s amazing thank you for uploading this I want the best you tubers
Thank you so much for the compliment! It is stone scapes mini pebble aqua white. I did use abalone shell which creates a nice sparkling effect! Congrats on your pool build!
You’re pool looks awesome. I’m in the process of designing my pool. It’s going to be 15x28. Trying to decide on sun-shelf size. What size is your sun-shelf? It seems like a great size. Trying to decide between CLI aqua white and aqua pearl. Have you seen the difference in the two Colors in person?
Hello Donya. My sunshelf is 12ft x 8ft. It starts 3 feet into the pool deck and pushes out 5ft into the pool. My pool is also 15ft wide and it seems like a perfect distance. Many people bring the sun shelf further into the pool deck to take up less space in the pool but this design allowed me to place steps on each side of the shelf and my kids love playing in them. I have not seen Aqua Pearl in person but I found it online through CL Industries. Looks like it would produce a nice water color. Has a bit more brown and more white than Aqua White. Despite the name aqua white has mostly blue as the base color. Hope this helps.
Question, looking at your sun exposure, it appears you get alot of direct sun all day. My pool gets sun from 10AM to end of day, all across the south from east to west. I have had a summer or two that it got pretty warm in the pool in the Texas heat. I am debating between Aqua White and Aqua Cool. Do you experience more heat absorption from the aqua blue? I would never do a grey or black plaster, since it would just boil during the summer. I get ALOT of sun.
Thanks for the video. My husband and chose this same finish, it’s in the curing stage and still looking green. How long did it take to get this beautiful blue color??
Hi Jimmy, We just had the Mini Pebble Aqua White installed based on how great it looked in your video. Resurface finished 2 days ago, acid wash yesterday, and fill complete late last night. Did you notice the water color change over the first month after resurfacing? Right now the water has more of a blue/green hue and was just wondering if you noticed the same thing initially. Did the water color take a while to settle in to its current and final color for you?
Hey David, I did not have any green tint at all. Someone else commented the same thing. I am wondering if your surroundings have influenced the green. My waterline tile and the wall on the hot tub are blue. I also added Abolone Shell into the mix to add some sparkle. I would ask your installer. I also brushed mine 2 times per day for the first 2 weeks and it brightened it up a bit.
Just starting to refinish a 20+ year old pool - trying to decide on finishes - how has your finish held up over the years? - was that the Stonescape Mini Pebble Aqua White? Did you add Abalone to the finish? Does it still sparkle? Have heard so many different opinions on everything your feedback would be appreciated, thanking you in advance.
Hi Jimmy. So happy you made this video. I was finding the selection of pool color very stressful. The NPT color selection book is not helpful at all. I see no reference to abalone shell is it called somithing else ? very confusing and doesn’t show an end result to all colors. Have you noticed the shells or pebbles coming out. Which waterline tile did you use ? I didn’t want to use the traditional blue glass mosaics. I was considering of doing a white mother of pearl glass pool tile. Any thoughts if would impede the finished color or compliment the abalone shell ? Was hoping to end up with a soft powder baby blue Tranquil color. But it seems no one can tell me how to accomplish that.
You're welcome! I do not know of another name for the abalone shell. You could check with a local pool builder. I do not have any issues with loose pebble or shells. For the final water color it is tough to predict because there is much more to it than just the surface of the pool. The surrounding environment matters a lot. I think the water line you are mentioning could enhance it nicely., I used a tile called Martinique. Good Luck!
Thanks for the video Jimmy! We're also going with Stonescapes Aqua White w/abalone. You mentioned that you scrubbed it for 2 weeks after the plaster was applied. I'm assuming this was after it was filled? Did you use any special brush? Did you scrub everywhere (walls and bottom)? Beautiful pool!
It's clear as day that AQUA WHITE is the choice if you dont want any grey/green/turquoise hues. This is just straight sky blue which many look for and this is the choice. Thanks for the video.
My pool has a similar shape as yours and I'm going to go with Aqua White as well. I'm debating if I should put in step tiles. I like the clean look of no tiles but also wonder if tiles increase safety. I see you have no tiles on your steps. Do you have any issues with mis-steps and do you regret not getting step tiles? Thanks very nice house BTW.
Thank you for the compliment. I considered putting tiles on the steps and benches but I am glad I did not. I put them on the edge of the sun shelf for aesthetic reasons. I have not had any mis-steps or issues. The steps are very visible as well as the benches on each side of the pool. Good luck on your build and hope we get to see it when finished!!
Hello David, I do not know the brand. I purchased the coping through NPT Pools and the pavers were purchased by the contractor. The pavers are just concrete pavers and the color is called Harvest Blend
Hi! This is so helpful- we are getting ready to redo our pool and are strongly considering this color. Is there any way you can post a video of the pool off, with the water not moving? I think that will give us a different view. We have direct sun over our pool too. Hope this isn’t too much to ask. Thank you in advance!
Great looking pool! I am in the process if designing one, I like the look of the pavers however I heard they hold a lot of heat. Do your pavers get hot and would recommend them as deck material? thanks.
Sorry I missed your question. The pavers in fact do hold heat but here in Florida everything holds heat in the summer. I have a lot of neighbors who put travertine down and I have seen kids feet slipping right out from under them while their heads hit the surface. I went for safety and function since I have 4 little ones.
Jimmy, so cool.We are just about to select this in mini pebble or in Peurto Rico (addition of glass beads)...Our sample in regular mini pebble of the Aqua White has no abolone, but we are going to request it. Approx how many bags were added to yours as it looks very concentrated and we'd like to request the same amount. This is great, thanks for posting!
Hello! We really love this pool! What else did u add beside the Aqua white mini pebble and abalone. Did u add any glass beads abs if u did what color ?
Thank you! I did not add any glass beads. I feel the shells were enough. The surroundings have a lot to do to influence the water surface color as well so keep that in mind! Good luck!
Hi, I’m thinking about going with the same color, is there any difference in feel if you choose to go with larger pebble instead of mini? Or was it almost the same as the big pebble? Thank you and blessings!
Hello, I find there to be a big difference. The mini pebble is very smooth while the standard pebble is rough, kind of like sand paper. I seen zero reason to get the regular pebble over mini.
I'm wondering if you are still satisfied with the feel of the mini stonescapes? I need to have my pool refinished, and I love the look of the stonescapes, but am worried about the roughness.
Are you able to post pictures please? We are torn between Aqua White and Aqua Blue. We have about 2 weeks (maybe less) to make a decision. Are you able to see the pebble as Aqua White is so light, but then again I have a small sample. Thanks
Rachel Lanoza we just had our aqua white installed 2 weeks ago and have no regrets! Water color is similar to a vacation resort color like in this video.
Thank you! Here is the installer contact info: AC Coleman 407-473-0978. Looks great at night. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159398654345507&set=pb.609825506.-2207520000.1562930455.&type=3&theater
The blue looks awesome! I've seen other images where this color looks much duller. Is it really that vibrant in real life, or is that a result of how these phone cameras saturate everything? I take photos of subdued blue pools, and they come out like this. We want vibrant blue, but not dark. Teetering between aqua white and aqua blue, like seemingly EVERYONE!
Hi Jimmy, im also looking to go with this color but i have a question did you add any glass in it? Did the shells that you added make a difference in the end color?
Sorry I thought I replied to this one! My Bad. I did not add glass but the shells did certainly ad a sparkle to the water. Not a difference in color much.
Hi I am doing the aqua white . Debating on adding the abalone shells. Is it just the tanning ledges you see it ? Or do you this sparkle in the whole pool?
How is the abalone holding up in your pool? I have read the abalone leaves brown stains on the surface of the pool and around the abalone pieces themselves. We are on the fence about adding abalone to our aqua white minipebble finish. Thank you.
hi Jimmy, how many glass bags did you choose for your finish? we are building our pool and we are thinking if there is a difference between 1 bag and 3 bags. our selection is Aqua white puerto rico blend mini pebbles with 1 bag, but I'm not sure if 1 bag will make a lot of difference. how many bags of glass does your pool finish has? thank you.
Razmic Valijan sorry for taking so long to reply I didn't see your comment till now. This mix is all Pebble it doesn't contain glass. I did have a couple of bags of the abalone shell added to it however. sorry for taking so long to reply I didn't see your comment till now. This mix is all pebble it doesn't contain glass. I did have a couple of bags of the abalone she'll added to it however. If you are adding glass I've heard that 3 bags is usually sufficient in and average size pool
Jimmy Epolito thanks for your reply. My pool construction is over already. I end up adding 1 bag of glass plus a bag of shell. Because of the glasses, my pool looks a little darker than yours. I like the color of your pool by the way. This is the color that I was looking for, but you answered me late LOL
@@RazmicValijan Hi Razmic im going with the same color as you and 1 bag of glass, you mentioned it turned out a little darker than Jimmy's, how much darker? If possible Can you upload a video or a pic?
The absolute smoothest feel thats has the perfect amount of grip is glasstile and glass beads...(jewlscape) it makes your pool last 50 years too but has a big price tag....you get what you pay for.
Thanks so much for posting this. It's so hard to find photos of the colors they offer. We are also going with stonescapes, since our pool installer only uses them. I have had the hardest time picking a color. I want a true blue (No green or grey) with a medium tone. Do you think this fits the bill? Sometimes it's hard with video to truly see the true color. I keep going between Aqua white and Aqua Blue. What made you choose Aqua white over Aqua blue? You're pool looks amazing and I'm sure you have been enjoying it!!
Hi Angela! It truly is very difficult to find good images to help with the decision. I was torn between Aqua White and Aqua Blue but it boiled down to the fact that Aqua Blue is very similar but contained a lot more brown and black pebbles which I did not want. I was shooting the exact same look you just mentioned and got it. I wanted the water to look refreshing and inviting. When I am outside and the sun is overhead it is hard not to jump in! Keep in mind that your surroundings also play a huge part in the color of your water. The waterline tile, the pool deck, the landscaping, the positioning of the sun, etc. The abalone shell was also a big win. They really cause the water to sparkle on the surface. Let me know if I can help you further!
@@JimmyEpolito Thanks so much for the fast reply! Do you happen to have any pictures of it shaded? We have a similar backyard and sun position for our backyard. The only difference is our deep end is 9 feet, so I'm sure it will be much darker in that area. You're an angel for posting this. I swear it's been the worst experience to try and find pools with the color and NPT is no help in picking the color. I'll have to see if my husband wants to swing the extra cost for the abalone shell, it's beautiful for sure.
@@JimmyEpolito We ended up going with Aqua white with costa rica blend glass beads and abalone shells. They are doing it right now as we speak. I can't wait to fill it up and see what it looks like. Thanks again for posting this and all your help. You are the only one that responded from all the videos I asked questions on.
@@angelarebollar3948 I am glad to help. I was frustrated when I was trying to find help deciding on the color so I figured I could help others avoid that by posting this video. I wish I had added some glass beads in mine but I was already way outside my initial budget!! LOL. Enjoy and let me know how it turns out
Hi there! Beautiful pool! What tile did you use on your tanning ledge/baja step edge? I like how it blends in, but shimmers in the sunlight. Thanks in advance!
Any issues with the staining from the shells? I've in a forum about people having lots of issues with stains. I love the color and wanted the shells but now, I'm a bit concerned. Thanks
No staining from the shells whatsoever. I think if people have staining they are not properly balancing the water in the beginning and brushing enough.
First of all - grest video - very helpful - we are getting Aqua white as well for all the same reasons. I was wondering if you can share the cost if the abalone shells? I soooooo want them! Thanks again!!!
Thanks Jimmy. It ended up costing $500. I asked for 3 bags but not sure what we're getting. Shot Crete this week so I'll share outcome. Thanks again for the video. It really helped us decide.
Hey man, nice pool! Wish I had a big yard like that. Question, you didn’t go for any touch of glass right? Just the shiny shells? I’m debating between aqua blue and aqua white.
Thanks man! I did not add any glass. I like the shiny shells and they did a great job of causing a sparkle on the peaks of waves. I personally feel the shells mix better as well. I am not sure if that is true, it is just a gut instinct
@@JimmyEpolito Thank you. Did you want a different color but ended up with this? I am debating between Aqua Blue and this. But I hear that the Blue has some green to it. I am in AZ, so too bright *Aqua white) is not great either.
@@blaneahm9891 you're welcome. I was aiming for this exact color. I wanted a color that was refreshing. The colors around the pool will also influence the water color.
@@JimmyEpolito hello again man, quick question, did you see a lot of mini pebble in the pool after it was resurfaced and started up? Is that normal? I see lots of debris from the resurface job.
I'm going irradecent peacock colour tiles with 100%glass beads in mostly gold with highlights of sky blue and light green...so it will look like a natural lagoon with a sandy bottom but greenish blueish water...with jungle plants and sandstone deck.
Sorry I took so long to reply. Stonescapes has a surface actually called Carribean Blue. They have others as well. I imagine that as long as there are hints of green and blue is dominant, that it will look great. Here is a link www.nptpool.com/pool-finishes/ssrpcb/#:~:text=Water%20Color%3A%20Medium%20Blue,a%20beautiful%20deep%20turquoise%20expanse.
I was stuck between those two as well!! I think you cannot go wrong either way. It is holding up very well and it will be 3 years in Oct. I recommend adding the abalone shell to. It creates an excellent looking sparkle on the surface!
Hey there, was wondering how you like the stonescapes now that it looks like it has been a few months? I am a few days from having to make my final decision and aqua white is my top choice so far
integratomr2 hey there, I am 100% satisfied with the stonescapes Aqua white. My pool is finished in October of 2017 so I believe it has fully cured by now and it looks great. I get a lot of compliments on it from those who visit. I went with the mini pebble and I had them add the abalone shell which gives it a really good Sparkle. I hope this helps good luck on your build
1960jaybo my pool was finished at the end of October 2017 so it hasn't been exposed to the high summer temperatures as of yet. I don't imagine it will get excessively hot. The video makes it look more gray than it is it is actually a medium blue.
Thanks so much! We are leaning toward your color, had "Tahoe Blue" Pebble Tec at last house, 5 foot deep or a little more. It was a bath in August in Houston. Going with Stone scape this time like you. Thanks! Jay
I am in Houston also and about to make a decision also... what plaster did you go with and did you add any glass beads or shell? Would love to see your pool...
I picked this one after this video and it doesn’t look like this. Mine looks really blue and has lots of streaks and blotches everywhere. Did you acid wash it multiple times ? I’m so stressed
@@JimmyEpolito they just finished pebble yesterday. It is currently filling up but I will try brushing it 3-4 times a day, I bought the nylon one but I’ll look for the hybrid brush. I hope it will pull out the Smurf blue color lol
@@candiceelliott3335 it looks nice. His looks nicer than mine but I think that comes down to install. Only thing is it feels pretty rough on feet for mini pebble. Def. Has Caribbean look though
Jimmy Epolito Oh wow that sounds perfect just gave me a great idea I’m doing an owner builder and just didn’t know exactly what to get thanks so much was doing a 28 but 16 but don’t know if it’ll be to small and 9x9 spa
@@flightmedic7169 29x16 is a good size in my opinion. I at times wish I went 16vs 15 but so far we have really enjoyed the pool. I spent a lot of time deciding on what I was going to use the pool for most and designed it around that. I wanted it to be a great pool for activities without being a boring rectangle. The kids love it and even though the shelf juts out into the pool it does not limit our activities.
Jimmy Epolito thanks so much for all your input it’s been hard deciding but I think with the research I’ve done and after seeing yours I made up my mind on the size and I’m doing 3.5 5.5 middle and 4.5 the other side. I’m also doing stone scape aqua blue. The spa will be on one side and will be 9x9 overflowing to the pool. Steps on that same side for the pool. Did you use the mini pebbles ? And how hard where they on your feet? Thanks
@@flightmedic7169 no problem! Glad I can help. I used mini pebble and it is very easy on the feet. My neighbor used regular pebble and my kids get scraped everytime they have gotten in that pool.
Don’t be fooled by the “mini pebble isn’t as rough as the regular”. It absolutely is equally as rough. All pebble finishes are like that and ours, the same shade and finish as this one, feels like walking on asphalt. We fell for the “it’s smoother” pitch too. Man, do I wish we had that one to do over.
Sounds to me like you had an install problem. My pool surface is much smoother than my neighbors who have regular Pebble. I am just a homeowner not a pool surface sales person BTW. You own statement makes zero sense. It is like saying the 2000 grit sandpaper is not smoother than 200 grit.
You got that color just right, inviting images of the bright blue watercolors in stunning Tahiti and the Bahamas !!! NO dark interior... Recently we had an alligator in our pool to "swim with", (like Steve Irvin) and it is nice to be able to see snakes or what else invite themselves in for a quick dip, just before you jump in...... Thank you for your great video, you sealed my color choices beautifully !!!
Thanks for the compliments! The color did turn out very refreshing especially on a sunny day! I never caught any gators in mine but the occasional snake would cool off in there!
Thank you for posting this. You actually made me change my mind from Aqua Blue to Aqua White. Your pool looks amazing and the water color is exactly what I was envisioning. I love the seashells too!
Glad I could help!
How did your pool turn out?
Thank you for posting this video. We just installed a pool and chose aqua white. The pool color looks amazing!
Hey Jimmy--just wanted to say THANKS for uploading your video of the NPT Aqua White pool finish! I know that it has been a few years, but know that it is still being a valuable resource for those who are building/refinishing their pools today. The video quality is excellent, and gives a very good feel for the water color generated by this surface. As you probably still know, there are not many accessible photos/ videos of the AW pool finish around, so it really helped us to settle on a new pool color. Gracias!!
Thanks for reaching out! I am glad the video is still helping others!
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How is it holding up?
This is great! We are doing this color and it is wonderful to see a finished product. Thank you!
You're welcome!! It really causes the water to look like the water in a tropical resort pool. It has been close to 2 years and the surface has not faded and still looks amazing.
Good Luck with your build!
BEAUTIFUL color, I literally just showed my pool builder this video and said, “this is what I want!!” Thank you for having this video 👌🏻
That's Awesome!! Let me know how it turns out!
How did your pool turnout?
Thanks for taking the time to post this. Very thoughtful of you to post this. Tough decision for us btwn the Aqua White & the Tropics Blue. You have a beautiful pool!
You're welcome!! I don't think you could go wrong with either selection!
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Thank you! We were on the fence, but now we are committed to the aqua white finish.
I believe you will be satisfied with your choice! Enjoy your new pool!
You are so correct! Not many pictures of completed pools with various finishes. Thanks!
Glad to help!
Thanks Jimmy! You’ve inspired me. I made a video on our Aqua Blue Stonescapes Mini Pebble because the Aqua White was on back order due to COVID. I love both the Aqua White and Aqua Blue. Thanks for making this helpful video. God Bless you!!
I'm sure the aqua blue looks spectacular. Congrats on your new pool and God Bless You as well!
The thing I noticed with Aqua Blue is that Aqua Blue has a more greenish blue hue compared to Aqua White where it is really just pure sky blue color with no hue or hint of any green.
I am not a fan of anything green. Our pool is Aqua blue and does not show any green hue at all. We also used a blue glass tile. But don’t get me wrong, I think Jimmy’s pool is beautiful!!!
Much appreciated dude. Love the pool and colour. Was looking around to get a light blue colour but hesitant and came across your vid and loved the pool. Agree dark blue looks like a jungle. lol
Thank you so much for the video! I am getting a pool build and I just learned so much from your video!
I am glad you benefitted from watching it!
Thanks for sharing. I'm remodeling my pool and getting aqua white. I feel I made the right decision thanks to you.
Glad the video helped!
Thanks for sharing this video
You really helped us deciding our mini pebbles, and we got Aqua white
I wonder how much more was for the seashells
Huge help Jimmy and what a beautiful pool you have! Aqua Blue was to touquiois like for me and like you we didn't want any green. We almost choose Aqua Cool for a light blue but it's on the light side. Gonna go with Aqua White and of course add abalone shells but skip the glass beads. Also adding seat and step markers for safety reasons just in case plus they're pretty tiles. We should have it finished in about a week.
That's wonderful! I bet it will look amazing!
Hi Jimmy, I hadn't considered the Aqua White NPT Stonescapes mini pebble. This is beautiful! We will have a white stucco retaining wall, grey coping and natural color concrete on the decking, our pool will be a 15x36 rectangle. 5ft deep. what color would you recommend the water tile? we have selected an opal pearl glass on the tanning ledge, spa and steps. Does the abalone shell make a huge difference in your opinion? Would you recommend I change that to blue? Would love our water to be as close in color to yours! Thanks so much!
Thanks for the great video, Jimmy! Do you have any idea of this product is available in Canada?
Your swimming pool is gorgeous love the color! I'm putting in a pool sometime this week they're coming to dig! We decided to pick Pebble Sheen aqua blue! Pool dimensions are 13'-0 x 27'- 0 surface area is 327' perimeter is 80. Depths are 3'-6 4'-0 5'-0 total gallons of water is 9,810 we also added Bobe sheer waterfall.
Thanks and congrats on your pool!! I bet it will turn out great!!
@@JimmyEpolito thank you!
As I’m watching this, the guys are spraying the aqua white mini pebble in my pool. This just reinforces my decision (there were so many to choose from), because your pool looks great. Thanks for posting!
Hey Craig,. How did your pool turn out?
Thank you for your video. We loved it. Can you please tell me the names of the color of all the tiles you used? The one I am the most interested in is the glass tile you used on the tanning ledge?
Thank you for sharing. This is exactly what we're about to get.
You're welcome!
Beautiful pool!!! How big is the pool and spa?
That's a nice looking pool color.
Does the pool finish look sandy colored at the tanning ledge? or is the finish more of a grey color when looking down into the water at the tanning ledge? I want to have a more subtle color transition from stairs to shallow to deep.
Hey I love your pool just want to make sure that this is the Stone scape mini pebble rock all white with the abalone stone getting ready to order the pool plaster hopefully in the next day or two so wanted to make sure I’m copping your pool it’s amazing thank you for uploading this I want the best you tubers
Thank you so much for the compliment! It is stone scapes mini pebble aqua white. I did use abalone shell which creates a nice sparkling effect! Congrats on your pool build!
Hi Jimmy. I’m going to do the same plaster! Looks amazing!
Quick question , how many Bags did you use? My installer is asking if I want 1 , 2, or 3?
This video helped me decide. I have aqua white, abalone and glow in the dark aggregate. ❤it
You’re pool looks awesome. I’m in the process of designing my pool. It’s going to be 15x28. Trying to decide on sun-shelf size. What size is your sun-shelf? It seems like a great size. Trying to decide between CLI aqua white and aqua pearl. Have you seen the difference in the two Colors in person?
Hello Donya. My sunshelf is 12ft x 8ft. It starts 3 feet into the pool deck and pushes out 5ft into the pool. My pool is also 15ft wide and it seems like a perfect distance. Many people bring the sun shelf further into the pool deck to take up less space in the pool but this design allowed me to place steps on each side of the shelf and my kids love playing in them. I have not seen Aqua Pearl in person but I found it online through CL Industries. Looks like it would produce a nice water color. Has a bit more brown and more white than Aqua White. Despite the name aqua white has mostly blue as the base color. Hope this helps.
Who is your installer? It looks beautiful!
Thank you so much for this! Eased my selection anxiety!!!!
I am very glad that you found value in the video! Good luck on the build!
Question, looking at your sun exposure, it appears you get alot of direct sun all day. My pool gets sun from 10AM to end of day, all across the south from east to west. I have had a summer or two that it got pretty warm in the pool in the Texas heat. I am debating between Aqua White and Aqua Cool. Do you experience more heat absorption from the aqua blue? I would never do a grey or black plaster, since it would just boil during the summer. I get ALOT of sun.
Thanks for the video. My husband and chose this same finish, it’s in the curing stage and still looking green. How long did it take to get this beautiful blue color??
You're welcome. Mine never had a green tint. Do you have anything surrounding the pool that could cause that? What color is the waterline tile?
Hi Jimmy,
We just had the Mini Pebble Aqua White installed based on how great it looked in your video. Resurface finished 2 days ago, acid wash yesterday, and fill complete late last night. Did you notice the water color change over the first month after resurfacing? Right now the water has more of a blue/green hue and was just wondering if you noticed the same thing initially. Did the water color take a while to settle in to its current and final color for you?
Hey David, I did not have any green tint at all. Someone else commented the same thing. I am wondering if your surroundings have influenced the green. My waterline tile and the wall on the hot tub are blue. I also added Abolone Shell into the mix to add some sparkle. I would ask your installer. I also brushed mine 2 times per day for the first 2 weeks and it brightened it up a bit.
I’m so glad I found this video this is what we picked 🎉
Glad you found value in the video. Enjoy your new pool!
Just starting to refinish a 20+ year old pool - trying to decide on finishes - how has your finish held up over the years? - was that the Stonescape Mini Pebble Aqua White? Did you add Abalone to the finish? Does it still sparkle? Have heard so many different opinions on everything your feedback would be appreciated, thanking you in advance.
Hi Jimmy.
So happy you made this video. I was finding the selection of pool color very stressful. The NPT color selection book is not helpful at all. I see no reference to abalone shell is it called somithing else ? very confusing and doesn’t show an end result to all colors. Have you noticed the shells or pebbles coming out. Which waterline tile did you use ? I didn’t want to use the traditional blue glass mosaics.
I was considering of doing a white mother of pearl glass pool tile. Any thoughts if would impede the finished color or compliment the abalone shell ? Was hoping to end up with a soft powder baby blue
Tranquil color. But it seems no one can tell me how to accomplish that.
You're welcome! I do not know of another name for the abalone shell. You could check with a local pool builder. I do not have any issues with loose pebble or shells. For the final water color it is tough to predict because there is much more to it than just the surface of the pool. The surrounding environment matters a lot. I think the water line you are mentioning could enhance it nicely., I used a tile called Martinique. Good Luck!
Thank you! This was very helpful!
I am glad that you find the video beneficial
Thanks for the video Jimmy! We're also going with Stonescapes Aqua White w/abalone. You mentioned that you scrubbed it for 2 weeks after the plaster was applied. I'm assuming this was after it was filled? Did you use any special brush? Did you scrub everywhere (walls and bottom)? Beautiful pool!
Yes you have to
It's clear as day that AQUA WHITE is the choice if you dont want any grey/green/turquoise hues. This is just straight sky blue which many look for and this is the choice. Thanks for the video.
My pool has a similar shape as yours and I'm going to go with Aqua White as well. I'm debating if I should put in step tiles. I like the clean look of no tiles but also wonder if tiles increase safety. I see you have no tiles on your steps. Do you have any issues with mis-steps and do you regret not getting step tiles? Thanks very nice house BTW.
Thank you for the compliment. I considered putting tiles on the steps and benches but I am glad I did not. I put them on the edge of the sun shelf for aesthetic reasons. I have not had any mis-steps or issues. The steps are very visible as well as the benches on each side of the pool. Good luck on your build and hope we get to see it when finished!!
Hi Jimmy: What type & brand of coping and deck did you install? Thank you. Kind regards, David
Hello David, I do not know the brand. I purchased the coping through NPT Pools and the pavers were purchased by the contractor. The pavers are just concrete pavers and the color is called Harvest Blend
Hi! This is so helpful- we are getting ready to redo our pool and are strongly considering this color. Is there any way you can post a video of the pool off, with the water not moving? I think that will give us a different view. We have direct sun over our pool too. Hope this isn’t too much to ask. Thank you in advance!
Hello, I am glad it helped you. I have sold this house so I cannot complete the task. I can tell you that it looked great with the water on or off.
Great looking pool! I am in the process if designing one, I like the look of the pavers however I heard they hold a lot of heat. Do your pavers get hot and would recommend them as deck material? thanks.
Sorry I missed your question. The pavers in fact do hold heat but here in Florida everything holds heat in the summer. I have a lot of neighbors who put travertine down and I have seen kids feet slipping right out from under them while their heads hit the surface. I went for safety and function since I have 4 little ones.
@@JimmyEpolito I completely agreed with you. I'd rather see my kids feet deal the heat in pavers instead a trip to the hospital.
Jimmy, so cool.We are just about to select this in mini pebble or in Peurto Rico (addition of glass beads)...Our sample in regular mini pebble of the Aqua White has no abolone, but we are going to request it. Approx how many bags were added to yours as it looks very concentrated and we'd like to request the same amount. This is great, thanks for posting!
I wish I could tell you. I am not sure how many bags they put in. Maybe 2
How did your pool turnout Cassidy?
Hello! We really love this pool! What else did u add beside the Aqua white mini pebble and abalone. Did u add any glass beads abs if u did what color ?
Thank you! I did not add any glass beads. I feel the shells were enough. The surroundings have a lot to do to influence the water surface color as well so keep that in mind! Good luck!
Hi, I’m thinking about going with the same color, is there any difference in feel if you choose to go with larger pebble instead of mini? Or was it almost the same as the big pebble? Thank you and blessings!
Hello, I find there to be a big difference. The mini pebble is very smooth while the standard pebble is rough, kind of like sand paper. I seen zero reason to get the regular pebble over mini.
I'm wondering if you are still satisfied with the feel of the mini stonescapes? I need to have my pool refinished, and I love the look of the stonescapes, but am worried about the roughness.
Yes, the mini pebbles do not feel rough at all. I have friends with regular pebble and it feels like sandpaper in comparison
Thank you so much for this video. We are going with aqua white as well!
Glad it was helpful!
Are you able to post pictures please? We are torn between Aqua White and Aqua Blue. We have about 2 weeks (maybe less) to make a decision. Are you able to see the pebble as Aqua White is so light, but then again I have a small sample. Thanks
Rachel Lanoza we just had our aqua white installed 2 weeks ago and have no regrets! Water color is similar to a vacation resort color like in this video.
Rachel Lanoza I’ve been meaning to post a video as well are there are only 3 aqua white videos on UA-cam! Hahaha
Maybe this is a stupid question but is that like Diamond Brite or is the same ?
How much extra is the sea shell abalone stuff?
Love it!
Pool looks amazing. Do u happen to have the installer name? Any night pics? What does look like in the dark
Thank you! Here is the installer contact info: AC Coleman 407-473-0978. Looks great at night. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159398654345507&set=pb.609825506.-2207520000.1562930455.&type=3&theater
Hernandez pool plastering that's the installer
The blue looks awesome! I've seen other images where this color looks much duller. Is it really that vibrant in real life, or is that a result of how these phone cameras saturate everything? I take photos of subdued blue pools, and they come out like this. We want vibrant blue, but not dark. Teetering between aqua white and aqua blue, like seemingly EVERYONE!
Hi Jimmy, im also looking to go with this color but i have a question did you add any glass in it? Did the shells that you added make a difference in the end color?
Sorry I thought I replied to this one! My Bad. I did not add glass but the shells did certainly ad a sparkle to the water. Not a difference in color much.
@@JimmyEpolitocurious why you didn't add Glass?
@@gregs9959 no specific reason other than I liked the look of the shell and chose it over the glass.
Hi Jimmy! I LOVE the raised wall tile! Can you please tell me what you used?
Here is a link www.nptpool.com/tile/martinique/
Great video, super helpful, thanks! How much did the whole job cost you? What city?
Sorry just saw this...The full pool project including landscaping was $55k I live in Clermont Florida
Jimmy, did your Stonescapes aqua white have black specs/pebbles in your mini pebble mixture?
Yes it did.
Thank you for sharing
Hi I am doing the aqua white . Debating on adding the abalone shells. Is it just the tanning ledges you see it ? Or do you this sparkle in the whole pool?
The entire pool
How is the abalone holding up in your pool? I have read the abalone leaves brown stains on the surface of the pool and around the abalone pieces themselves. We are on the fence about adding abalone to our aqua white minipebble finish. Thank you.
Holding up great. I would think that staining would be from a poor install. They add lots of sparkle to the tips of the water!
hi Jimmy, how many glass bags did you choose for your finish? we are building our pool and we are thinking if there is a difference between 1 bag and 3 bags. our selection is Aqua white puerto rico blend mini pebbles with 1 bag, but I'm not sure if 1 bag will make a lot of difference. how many bags of glass does your pool finish has? thank you.
Razmic Valijan sorry for taking so long to reply I didn't see your comment till now. This mix is all Pebble it doesn't contain glass. I did have a couple of bags of the abalone shell added to it however. sorry for taking so long to reply I didn't see your comment till now. This mix is all pebble it doesn't contain glass. I did have a couple of bags of the abalone she'll added to it however. If you are adding glass I've heard that 3 bags is usually sufficient in and average size pool
Jimmy Epolito thanks for your reply. My pool construction is over already. I end up adding 1 bag of glass plus a bag of shell. Because of the glasses, my pool looks a little darker than yours.
I like the color of your pool by the way. This is the color that I was looking for, but you answered me late LOL
@@RazmicValijan Hi Razmic im going with the same color as you and 1 bag of glass, you mentioned it turned out a little darker than Jimmy's, how much darker? If possible Can you upload a video or a pic?
did you add any glass to the finish? Puerto rico blend? etc?
I did not add any glass. I added abalone shell which gives the water a nice sparkle.
Are you still pleased with this color? Also has the finish been rough or does it feel ok on your feet especially with small children? Thanks
The absolute smoothest feel thats has the perfect amount of grip is glasstile and glass beads...(jewlscape) it makes your pool last 50 years too but has a big price tag....you get what you pay for.
Hello! Just curious about the comfort of the products on your kiddos feet. Is it comfortable for them?
Yes it is very easy on their little feet. I have a neighbor who has the standard pebble and it feels like sandpaper compared to my mini pebble finish
Thanks so much for posting this. It's so hard to find photos of the colors they offer. We are also going with stonescapes, since our pool installer only uses them. I have had the hardest time picking a color. I want a true blue (No green or grey) with a medium tone. Do you think this fits the bill? Sometimes it's hard with video to truly see the true color. I keep going between Aqua white and Aqua Blue. What made you choose Aqua white over Aqua blue? You're pool looks amazing and I'm sure you have been enjoying it!!
Hi Angela! It truly is very difficult to find good images to help with the decision. I was torn between Aqua White and Aqua Blue but it boiled down to the fact that Aqua Blue is very similar but contained a lot more brown and black pebbles which I did not want. I was shooting the exact same look you just mentioned and got it. I wanted the water to look refreshing and inviting. When I am outside and the sun is overhead it is hard not to jump in! Keep in mind that your surroundings also play a huge part in the color of your water. The waterline tile, the pool deck, the landscaping, the positioning of the sun, etc. The abalone shell was also a big win. They really cause the water to sparkle on the surface. Let me know if I can help you further!
@@JimmyEpolito Thanks so much for the fast reply! Do you happen to have any pictures of it shaded? We have a similar backyard and sun position for our backyard. The only difference is our deep end is 9 feet, so I'm sure it will be much darker in that area. You're an angel for posting this. I swear it's been the worst experience to try and find pools with the color and NPT is no help in picking the color. I'll have to see if my husband wants to swing the extra cost for the abalone shell, it's beautiful for sure.
@@angelarebollar3948 ua-cam.com/video/HSYjCxqzFX4/v-deo.html
@@JimmyEpolito We ended up going with Aqua white with costa rica blend glass beads and abalone shells. They are doing it right now as we speak. I can't wait to fill it up and see what it looks like. Thanks again for posting this and all your help. You are the only one that responded from all the videos I asked questions on.
@@angelarebollar3948 I am glad to help. I was frustrated when I was trying to find help deciding on the color so I figured I could help others avoid that by posting this video. I wish I had added some glass beads in mine but I was already way outside my initial budget!! LOL. Enjoy and let me know how it turns out
Great vid. Thx
No Problem! Thanks for watching!
Hi there! Beautiful pool! What tile did you use on your tanning ledge/baja step edge? I like how it blends in, but shimmers in the sunlight. Thanks in advance!
Sorry I missed this comment. Same tile I used on the waterfall wall. www.nptpool.com/tile/martinique/
I assume it’s the one with the border. Is the color ocean blue or royal blue? Thanks!
Was the plaster a darker blue initially? I just had mine done in Aqua White and it looks a lot darker than yours. I can send you a pic.
It was darker blue. I brushed mine 3 times per day for a full week.
Any issues with the staining from the shells? I've in a forum about people having lots of issues with stains. I love the color and wanted the shells but now, I'm a bit concerned. Thanks
No staining from the shells whatsoever. I think if people have staining they are not properly balancing the water in the beginning and brushing enough.
@@JimmyEpolito thanks for the reply!
First of all - grest video - very helpful - we are getting Aqua white as well for all the same reasons. I was wondering if you can share the cost if the abalone shells? I soooooo want them! Thanks again!!!
Hello Wendy! I just ask the subcontractor who applied the stonescapes to throw in a few bags. I believe most pool companies charge $400-500 per bag.
Thanks Jimmy. It ended up costing $500. I asked for 3 bags but not sure what we're getting. Shot Crete this week so I'll share outcome.
Thanks again for the video. It really helped us decide.
@@wendyramos8083 That's great! I look forward to seeing the final product! Glad that the video helped you!
Hello, Can you tell me what waterline tile you used I love the look of that tile.
Sure thing! Here is a link! www.nptpool.com/tile/martinique/#mar-33
Jimmy Epolito I love your pool color and tile. What grout color did you use with your water tile? I just love it!!!
Hi Jimmy - Your pool looks great. Quick question - is your pool 3ft or 3.5ft at the shallow end? Thanks!
Thank you. One side is 3ft and the other is 3.5ft. The middle is 5.5ft
Is your waterline tile ocean blue or royal blue?
@@yasminumani1273 Ocean Blue
Hey man, nice pool! Wish I had a big yard like that. Question, you didn’t go for any touch of glass right? Just the shiny shells? I’m debating between aqua blue and aqua white.
Thanks man! I did not add any glass. I like the shiny shells and they did a great job of causing a sparkle on the peaks of waves. I personally feel the shells mix better as well. I am not sure if that is true, it is just a gut instinct
@@JimmyEpolito Thank you. Did you want a different color but ended up with this? I am debating between Aqua Blue and this. But I hear that the Blue has some green to it. I am in AZ, so too bright *Aqua white) is not great either.
@@blaneahm9891 you're welcome. I was aiming for this exact color. I wanted a color that was refreshing. The colors around the pool will also influence the water color.
@@JimmyEpolito hello again man, quick question, did you see a lot of mini pebble in the pool after it was resurfaced and started up? Is that normal? I see lots of debris from the resurface job.
I'm going irradecent peacock colour tiles with 100%glass beads in mostly gold with highlights of sky blue and light green...so it will look like a natural lagoon with a sandy bottom but greenish blueish water...with jungle plants and sandstone deck.
I bet it will look great! Let us know how it turns out!
I'm looking for a water color that reminds me of the Caribbean Sea...which would you recommend?
Sorry I took so long to reply. Stonescapes has a surface actually called Carribean Blue. They have others as well. I imagine that as long as there are hints of green and blue is dominant, that it will look great. Here is a link www.nptpool.com/pool-finishes/ssrpcb/#:~:text=Water%20Color%3A%20Medium%20Blue,a%20beautiful%20deep%20turquoise%20expanse.
@@JimmyEpolito Thank you for the link! Loving the 'Puerto Rico Blues', since that's where i grew up! Lol 👍🏼
I'm stuck between Aqua white and Aqua Blue , Love the light , medium Blue . Great Video man. After 2 yrs , holding up well ?!
I was stuck between those two as well!! I think you cannot go wrong either way. It is holding up very well and it will be 3 years in Oct. I recommend adding the abalone shell to. It creates an excellent looking sparkle on the surface!
@@JimmyEpolito , Thank you for replying. Looks awesome. My pool project starts This Friday , Sept 18th..
@@laughnsal Glad to help! Congrats on the start date! Let me know how it turns out
@@JimmyEpolito how much xtra was the shell??
@@mariaguild2024 I had them include it at no extra charge!
perfect
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Can we ask how much this mini pebble cost? I’m really considering aqua white 👌👌👌👌
I am not sure of the itemized cost but my builder did it for the same cost he would have charged for regular pebble.
What's the size of your pool?
Hey there, was wondering how you like the stonescapes now that it looks like it has been a few months? I am a few days from having to make my final decision and aqua white is my top choice so far
integratomr2 hey there, I am 100% satisfied with the stonescapes Aqua white. My pool is finished in October of 2017 so I believe it has fully cured by now and it looks great. I get a lot of compliments on it from those who visit. I went with the mini pebble and I had them add the abalone shell which gives it a really good Sparkle. I hope this helps good luck on your build
Jimmy Epolito thank you for replying! we have made the same choice. Just finished the chip out of the old plaster, hope ours looks as good as yours!!
How did yours turn out?
The video is about 3 years old. How does the pool look now? thinking about resurfacing my pool.
It still looks great and is holding up very well. A few of my neighbors have used the same finish with the same results.
@@JimmyEpolito thank you.
Asked for aqua white and got something different looking did color change for you
A slight change occurred after 2 weeks of brushing 2 times per day. What does yours look like?
We have a pool with similar size and depth. We are in Houston, it gets hot. With Aqua White and the gray base, how did pool temp do? Get hot?
1960jaybo my pool was finished at the end of October 2017 so it hasn't been exposed to the high summer temperatures as of yet. I don't imagine it will get excessively hot. The video makes it look more gray than it is it is actually a medium blue.
Thanks so much! We are leaning toward your color, had "Tahoe Blue" Pebble Tec at last house, 5 foot deep or a little more. It was a bath in August in Houston. Going with Stone scape this time like you. Thanks! Jay
I am in Houston also and about to make a decision also... what plaster did you go with and did you add any glass beads or shell? Would love to see your pool...
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@@1960jaybo what color did you end up going with? Getting ours redone
I picked this one after this video and it doesn’t look like this. Mine looks really blue and has lots of streaks and blotches everywhere. Did you acid wash it multiple times ? I’m so stressed
No, but I did brush it 3-4 times per day. I used a hybrid brush which had metal bristles and nylon bristles. Did you perform the proper startup?
@@JimmyEpolito they just finished pebble yesterday. It is currently filling up but I will try brushing it 3-4 times a day, I bought the nylon one but I’ll look for the hybrid brush. I hope it will pull out the Smurf blue color lol
@@JackpotGiant Ok, that is good to hear. Mine has blotches too the first day and it improved after each brushing. Keep us posted!
@@JackpotGiantwell how did it go? I also picked this color and hope it’s not too blue
@@candiceelliott3335 it looks nice. His looks nicer than mine but I think that comes down to install. Only thing is it feels pretty rough on feet for mini pebble. Def. Has Caribbean look though
Did you only add abalone shell? Or is glass added as well.?
I considered glass but only added shell. I am pleased with the outcome
@@JimmyEpolito Thanks for the reply. How long did you scrub your pool ?
@@79bnice 2 times per day for 2 weeks. It was a workout!!
I’m sorry what size is this pool and spa ? Also do you know how deep it is ?
37ftx15ft for the pool. Spa is 8x8. It is 5.5ft in the middle, 3.5ft on one end and 4ft on the other
Jimmy Epolito
Oh wow that sounds perfect just gave me a great idea I’m doing an owner builder and just didn’t know exactly what to get thanks so much was doing a 28 but 16 but don’t know if it’ll be to small and 9x9 spa
@@flightmedic7169 29x16 is a good size in my opinion. I at times wish I went 16vs 15 but so far we have really enjoyed the pool. I spent a lot of time deciding on what I was going to use the pool for most and designed it around that. I wanted it to be a great pool for activities without being a boring rectangle. The kids love it and even though the shelf juts out into the pool it does not limit our activities.
Jimmy Epolito thanks so much for all your input it’s been hard deciding but I think with the research I’ve done and after seeing yours I made up my mind on the size and I’m doing 3.5 5.5 middle and 4.5 the other side. I’m also doing stone scape aqua blue. The spa will be on one side and will be 9x9 overflowing to the pool. Steps on that same side for the pool. Did you use the mini pebbles ? And how hard where they on your feet? Thanks
@@flightmedic7169 no problem! Glad I can help. I used mini pebble and it is very easy on the feet. My neighbor used regular pebble and my kids get scraped everytime they have gotten in that pool.
I’m thinking about quartz in ivory!
That would look nice! You should post a video if you do that!!
Jimmy Epolito we went with Aruba instead
what is the color of your coping
Tan
hey i saw your old video of the 2001 jeep cherokee limited and shit might i say you sound exactly the same lol i just wanted to say that
I try very hard to keep my voice consistent! LOL
Do you know the name of the waterline tile?
IrieFishMon www.nptpool.com/tile/martinique
Jimmy Epolito thanks. I think we are going to copy your pool 👍🏼
IrieFishMon it gets a lot of compliments. I wish you the best of luck and let me know if I can assist further
Don’t be fooled by the “mini pebble isn’t as rough as the regular”. It absolutely is equally as rough. All pebble finishes are like that and ours, the same shade and finish as this one, feels like walking on asphalt. We fell for the “it’s smoother” pitch too. Man, do I wish we had that one to do over.
Sounds to me like you had an install problem. My pool surface is much smoother than my neighbors who have regular Pebble. I am just a homeowner not a pool surface sales person BTW. You own statement makes zero sense. It is like saying the 2000 grit sandpaper is not smoother than 200 grit.
Is this a freshwater or a saltwater pool what no
Saltwater
What are the dimensions of your pool?
37x15
Thank you!
What size is your pool????
37x15
@@JimmyEpolito same size im getting. Thanks
@@moneyhandling1 excellent! Enjoy!
Can you tell me what the dimensions of your pool are
John sebert it is 37 ft long by 15 feet wide
Thank you very much I am building one 14 x 27 but it is just me
Should be aqua blue not white at all…..
Agreed. The name is very misleading.