The 75V DC limit is no biggie because: 1. The Home 3000 expansion batteries all have MPPT controllers and 1500 W of solar input on *each* battery. That’s right. Ya’ll kind of missed this. 2. Higher amperage. 45A - this isn’t in the manual but it’s in the FAQ on the launch page. Since amps are taken as needed, it makes for easy overpaneling with your solar panels in parallel. But a really big advantage higher amperage gives you is you can connect directly to a vehicle alternator without having to put in a DC to DC converter, or a AC to DC inverter. With charging typically over 600W. Making this an even cooler device. Another thing not mentioned is pass-through power. Even Ecoflow’s delta pro will do an overcurrent shut down if you start trying to pass through more than 20 A. Basically they are limited when plugged into the wall to 1800 W of pass-through, the output is limited by the input. But according to Gendome, they said this device could pass through 3000 watts. First, applying it to devices that are attached, and then secondarily to battery charging. That would’ve been a test I would’ve liked to have seen, how well that works because if they can deliver on that, it’s a big deal for using these as a UPS without a transfer panel. Other tests I would’ve liked to see, the Home 3000 multicharges up to 3000 W . I would’ve liked to see it push 3000 W with the solar panels and AC both connected. And also the 12 ms switch overtime. Does it make the lights flicker when it switches over? Does it affect your computer? This would be good tests to see. Thanks.
Thumbs up 👍 and not getting any shock hazard. Solar is in a much better position now. We are now seeing some better equipment coming out from the manufacturing. You are getting results in what you have been asking for. You are making a difference. Thanks again for your work.
P.S. We just made a video talking about how hard it is to read some of these manuals for products just before I found your video....LOL (Glad to see that this one is clear and to the point) :) P.P.S. Wish the wheels were larger, It would make it easier to roll around on heavier carpet settings. P.P.P.S. Nice review as always, THANK YOU !!!!!
I'm wondering what the hole spacing is on the wheels. Was thinking the same regards their size. The look a bit smaller than I'd like and was thinking some nice big locking casters might be an option.
Given the 45 amp DC input, there’s not a problem adding two more panels at all if you use a 2S4P configuration. You also might do a little better as is in a 2S3P configuration. Using the Rich Solar 200W panel specs, 2S is 48.3VOC X 9.8A = 473.33W. 3P would be 29.4A X 48.3V = 1420W. Add your 2 more panels in parallel, 4P is 39.2A X 48.3V = 1893.36 watts. Not a problem really, you just have to configure for a higher amp ceiling, and of course if you go over in amps it’s not a problem.
Yes but you have to use higher gauge wire, especially if you get up to 45a you're talking about using a 6awg wire! That's massive for solar. High voltage is always better in solar.
I don’t think it’s accurate to say it’s always better. Being able to hook it up directly to a vehicle alternator without a DC to DC converter is a huge plus. Sure, you can save a little on cables. But that’s a much more straightforward install then a converter or inverter. @@minutemanprep
@@minutemanprep 70V x 22A = 1540 Watts. The Home 3000 will only take 1500W. Each extra battery also has it's own 1500W MPPT controller. Maybe not how you have or would configure a competing solar generator - but not so different and arguably better actually.
I find it fascinating that all these reviewers' first and most important feature...is it's appearance! I don't give a rat's you-know-what about how it looks. I want efficiency, convenience, longevity and reliability.
Good little unit. I'm thinking of getting a Power station that I can run my grow lights on during the day (484 watts) during the day (10 hrs.) and charge at nights via wall charger during the off peak time. The boss is not ready to drop the $$$ on a set up yet.
Seems like a good generator for me except for the low VOC limitations. If someone comes out with a 250 to 500 VOC with 3000+watt solar charge capabilities I would buy it. Without it potentially killing me of course - looking at you Hysolis ;).
Do you have any solar system builds for your home outside of portable solar generators? I’d love to see a video on Sol-Ark and EGO4 Life PO4 battery setup.
In the works. But it's a long process. I will eventually have videos and guides on how to completely go off grid or do grid tied with battery backup. I'm in a special training course right now to make sure I understand everything. Then I'll go to a week of hands on training where I actually install a few systems. it's going to be legit!
Looks like a sleek unit that was well thought out. Very interesting. Split phase would have been clutch. On a side note, have you gotten your Zendure yet? Got mine yesterday, but haven't had time to test it yet because of work. Keep us posted.
Got my Zendure SBV about 3 weeks ago and so far it’s been great. Has the 240v outlet and has been running my 1/2hp deep well pump and everything else within the cabin. It’s new and have had to work through some software update glitches but to run an off grid small home and well pump on one unit is amazing.
@@Mike-it7ic I agree. I own my fair share of various brands and models. This is by far the most innovative and feature forward device I have seen. I'm just so happy I took the plunge at the Kickstarter campaign price. It's worth it, even at retail but the discount makes it even sweeter. Enjoy.
Great review. Do you know if the app can be used without an internet connection and do you need to be logged in to Gendomes servers. Seems some manufacturers won't allow you to use their apps without being logged in and in a grid down SHTF scenario that means you lose control which is madness imho. I saw on the Indiegogo page it has BT and Wifi. Wondering if it allows a wifi direct connection so no need for a router. Cheers.
@@minutemanprep Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated. I've just dropped Gendome an email just to be 100% rock solid positive. Will drop a comment back here once they respond in the hope it might help someone else. Love the channel. Cheers.
I still think the the Eco flow Delta Pro beats this if not only from the fact that you can hook two of those together and get 240v output. This unit does not offer this and they are close to the same price.
@@jeff-nt2qk Way more actually. Home 3000 45 amps X 75V = 3,375 Watts. But it takes a max of 1500W, AND add 200 watts on the second MPPT controller input - so 1700W. In a vehicle, 13.5 V alternator X 45A = 607.5Watts, without additional hardware. You can add the second 200W MPPT controller there too, for 807W DC car charging. Each extra battery has a 1500W MPPT controller as well. Delta Pro 150v X 15A = 2,250 Watts. It also has a 1500W ceiling. In a vehicle, 13.5V x 15A = 202.5W. Extra batteries have NO MPPT controller, totally depend on the main unit to charge. Gondome definitely looked at the Delta Pro, and determined to surpass it.
Anker has reached out asking me to review it but they haven't followed through yet. If you shoot them an email and request me reviewing it I am sure they'd send it out sooner than later.
Do you know if you can charge your devises while you charge the unit with solar power at the same time. Looks like you can do this with electric but not sure about solar. I know that eco flo will charge devices and power with solar at the same time but not sure about the Anker Let me know Thanks. I will reach out to Anker.
Genhome Gendock 3000 is a European ( German ) made product. Therefore it uses the native AC output for European electronic appliances, namely 220-240 v. If you want 220-240 v buy a German model. Problem solved regarding "split phase".
@@minutemanprep You are correct, that is why I put "split phase" in inverted commas. But the point is I can run every appliance in my 220v - 240v home using a European-made Genhome/Gendock 3000. No complications, unless you are in the United States where appliances are (mostly) 110 v.
Four items: 1. I can't help but think that sooner or later there will be a manufacturers' shakeout as a few battery producers take over the market, much the same as happened to the US automakers between 1906 and 1920. Who wants to get stuck with a problematic battery or system athat can no longer get serviced? 2. Did Apollo resolve the electric shock problem you mentioned in a past video? 3. Unless I missed something, you said you CANNOT hook up expansion batteries to this unit? 4. What State are you in? I don't want your address but it would help to get a better idea of your climate and average temperature for the batteries you review. I am in Michigan. A big drawback is we only average about 88 full sunny days per year. Yesterday and today I have a lot of wind but little to no sun. Thank you in advance for your response.
Apollo did resolve the issues and are already making new units that should be available around August is the current timeline. You can connect expansion batteries to this unit. I'm in SE Idaho.
The parent company of Gendome is Gotion, one of the largest battery makers in the world. They supply batteries for Volkswagen EV's, VW owns 26% of the company. And the two companies have a team working on solid state and semi solid state batteries. That is going to be bigger than LFP.
@@billytanglewood5665About a year ago I watched a documentary on solar systems used by remote farms in Australia. Assuming everything worked as intended many of their power problems would have been solved. Various full off grid systems, not using gasoline or diesel powered generators which they were trying to move away from, would have been their answer. Unfortunately, many buyers invested $40,000 - 60,000 and up in systems that were far less efficient than promised including some that never performed better than 40%, failed after a short time, or never worked all. The biggest problem was sellers who went of business in a year or two, in turn negating "10 year warranties." No matter who or what it is, there will always be some shakeout with new businesses and technologies. "Faster, better, cheaper" is the way it is. The other day I read an article about rare earth metals needed for electronics and super magnets. China controls 85% of them. Mr. Musk and people like him just discovered 2 things: Canada and a few other countries have large deposits of similar or less pure metals that do the same job with about 20% less efficiency at far less cost which will eliminate the Chinese near monopoly. For the intended uses, materials that provide that level of overall efficiency are more than enough. Ben just posted a short video he made at a trade show wherein he remarked that reliability is everything. He is 100% right. Nothing has to be rare, exotic, or over engineered. But it does have to work as intended every time you need it. As for batteries and solar powered systems, there will be a point at which they cannot be improved, either due to the amount of radiation contained in a specific amount of sunlight and the limitations of existing materials to convert it to usable energy, the economic costs, or even political considerations which we see presently in the head long charge to electrify everything. It's all changing fast, is often confusing, and everyone has an opinion on it. In 1990 you bought a base car and ordered numerous option with it, if you wanted them, which cost you more. Ten years later car companies loaded up every car they made with every item that had earlier been options. The few remaining options were things like bigger tires, better quality tires, and more expensive radios. The upshot was when you bought a new car you paid for and received almost every imaginable option whether you ever used or wanted it. That is good for the car company but not for me. To this day I have never opened the "moon roof" on any vehicle I ever owned but yet I paid for them, like it or not. Do I need a solar system with every new whistle and bell some unknown engineer dreamed up just because he could? Probably not. I need one that works when I need it, like Ben said. On the other hand it is often worth the time to walk around in Lowes or Home Depot for example, just to see what is new. On the other hand, yesterday Ford Motor announced it will no long have AM radios in their vehicles after 2024 because you can access AM from the internet. Well now, I like the AM radios I have in my vehicles that I use by pushing very simple buttons or a touch screen. It was noted that some European car makers have that now. What do I care what they do in Europe? I don't want or need "internet everything" just because some lunatic thinks it is an "improvement." Billy, thanks for your reply. I will look further into the company you cited. So far I have not found anything negative about them but in fact just the opposite.
I'm selfish, and want it all from a solar/rechargeable unit like this; a big amp hour 12V battery with the 3,000 watt plus inverter. I have a 50 amp RV. You said the unit was limited to 30 amps, I believe. This means that I will still a generator or other outside source if I need to run my aircon? Doesn't it? One is able to invert every outlet as if their 50 amp RV was a 30 amp RV? This would enable you to run TV, fridge, microwave etc? I apologize for my rudimentary understanding of electricity.
The Gendome can do up to 25a output total through the TT30 RV plug. If you wan to run a 50a RV you'll need to power stations. It's definitely possible to run the RV up to 50a and power the entire thing, but the follow up question becomes can you put enough solar panels on the roof to recharge that kind of a system every day?
@@minutemanprep Thanks for answering my questions. I realize the unit can't power all loads on a 50 amp RV all day long. What I really want to know is can this unit, on a 50 amp RV for instance, power a single 15,000 watt rooftop aircon unit (equipped with Easy Start, of course) overnight (approx 8 hours)? See, what I want to do is sleep in my RV's bedroom all night without activating the generator and depleting my propane supply. We avoid RV resorts and camps (they are overcrowded and filthy nowadays) as much as possible. However, even on expansive Land Management areas, there are noise restrictions precluding generator use between the hours of 10 pm and 8 am. Thanks. They are making 12V fridges now. Can 12V aircon be far behind?
@@rogerspalding5673 Yes it'll run a 15k BTU A/C. But it will not run it for 8hrs. A 15k BTU A/C uses about 1,300w to run. 8hrs x 1,300w =10,400wh of battery necessary. Not even with the Home 3000 plus two expansion batteries will it have enough to run that A/C unit for 8hrs non-stop. Sorry. A Delta Pro with 2 expansion batteries can. Or the new upcoming Apollo with 1 expansion battery can. You're welcome to email me and we can figure out what would work best. info@poweredportablesolar.com
8 month ago I suported Gendome in Indigogo. They promised to deliver in april to Europe. Only loose promisses till so far nothing to The netherlands. Only reason they are working on a network.... Just send my 2250 peach of battery. My summer season is over, thats why I bought, so I had not to cook on gass in my summer house. next sunday over for nxt 7 month. So thank you for wanting my money and do nothing with it. Dispite all the youtube video's i feel scamed. They offert once moneyback on The Gendome. but i want where i paid for. are there more people with this problem?
Why? Volts times Amps equals watts, so 75V X 45A + 3,375 Watts. The Home 3000 takes 1500W on the solar input, so that's overpaneled by a lot, plus add another 200W on the second MPPT controller for 1700W total. In your car 45A x 13.5V = 607.5 plus another 200W on the second controller, so over 800W car charging - without any extra hardware. Although a battery isolator would probably be a good idea, but not necessary. And the extra batteries each have their own 1500W MPPT controller built in. It's killer man. Well thought out.
@@billytanglewood5665 I have a bunch of 40volts and up panels, I'm not gonna put them all in parallel over for about an 80ft run. I will lose more watts going that route, with more amps and less volts. Then I would have to get a Combiner Box, I'd rather have a 4 huge panels in Series or do a 2S2P Configuration, with this Power Station I can not do Either, using smaller panels 180-200v in a 3S3P is such a drag, I prefer not to if I could help it
@@Moes_Prep_and_Tech Meh. Gendome 1500W solar input limit = 70 volts X 21.42 Amps. (leaving a little volts headroom for cold weather.) The Ecoflow Delta Pro has a 15A ceiling on the solar in. It's not so bad really, practically speaking.
It accounts for voltage produced from solar panels in different temperature and environments. When the panels are colder they can make more voltage. That's why you use VOC to stay safe.
I wander constantly, why these manufacturers don’t keep EU residents in mind when building these. Everything is 240V in EU. And being able to have one of these (maybe add more later) for a complete home power backup, that would be nice. But they make it so hard to get 240V even on a single outlet in general. 😩😢
A lot come in a different model for the EU, and there are some EU-only models as well. Many reviewed on this channel are from U.S. companies and they aren't big enough to start dealing with foreign regulations.
Crowd-funding (strike one). 88 pounds for a "portable" power station (strike two). Large inverter, battery, and charge controller bundled into the same unit, creating a single point of failure (strike three). If you need emergency backup power for your home, off-grid power for a small cabin, or substantial power for a larger RV or camping situation, this would seem to fit the bill. The problem is, for the same cost you can build a much more capable component-based stationary system that doesn't have any of the disadvantages mentioned above. I get that a lot of folks want something that is very user-friendly, meaning plug-n-play, but it's important to understand there is a cost associated with those conveniences. For those willing to do a little math and apply a little elbow grease, you can put together a much better solution, and one that is serviceable, should the need ever arise. I will also point out that the charge controller can handle a lot of amps, but is limited to 75 volts on the input, so you will need to be careful if you're putting residential panels in series to charge the battery in this product.
1. Re: Crowdfunding. The parent company, Gotion is one of the largest battery manufacturers in the world, and the majority shareholder is Volkswagen. And they have promised to deliver this product. In fact, it’s already in the United States waiting to be sent out on local delivery. 2. 88lbs. Considering the capacity this is not bad. Like everything you have to say compared to what? The delta pro which is somewhat comparable is 100 pounds. 3. Having all the components integrated into one unit is a Feature, not a bug. It produces economy of scale. You could make the same criticism of your television set, router, modem, and computer. It’s a weak argument, really more of an indictment of the lack of quality in self build parts. 4. It’s true If you have the expertise and the time, you could build a similar unit - but probably not with Alexa and Google home, assistant control, energy price tracking, the weather report, and nailing all those components on to a piece of plywood for easy swapping out of components isn’t exactly what I would call ergonomic. You could save a bit, but there are a lot of people that just would like to buy a plug and play system. But sure, you can go to Will Prowse’s channel and learn how to build something for sure.
@@billytanglewood5665 - If they're a big company, why use crowd-funding? You literally listed four individual components that ARE separate, as part of your argument for combining things into one. What I said was you could get more system for less money, and that's a fact. It's not a horrible product, but people should understand what it is and what the alternatives are, don't you think?
@@jasonbroom7147 1. Crowd funding is a modern manufacturer's tool now, to launch new products using other people's money. Ecoflow is a multibillion dollar company now, and they also still crowd fund. There are marketing companies that deliver templates to established manufacturers for how to do this and make it look like an upstart company. . 2. You could build a product for less for sure. But not one that competes ergonomically and in terms of features,, and not everyone has the expertise to self build. 3. Integrated all in one boxes with server rack batteries are taking over the self build market now. They are dead cheap, and a lot less hassle, and sure look better than a bunch of stuff nailed to a piece of plywood. Check out Will Prowses page, he can build something more powerful than a Delta Pro with integrated components at a quite competitive price point. Should we abandon all integrated components for point to point wiring of individual components? Well throw out your TV, your cell phone - your computer then!
@@billytanglewood5665 - Ecoflow's gross sales for 2021 (latest numbers available) were $220M...a far cry from being a "multibillion dollar" company. Still, they make enough that they shouldn't need the consumer to fund their R&D costs. Would you want to have paid for the cost of developing the Bluetti EB3A, considering what a turd that thing has turned out to be? I'm not sure what ergonomics has to do with large, stationary storage solutions. Some of these latest offerings are simply too big to really be portable. You list TV, cell phone and computer as separate components. Do you want them all crammed into one thing, so that if any one of them breaks, all of them are down? Thank you for reiterating all of the points I made earlier.
@@jasonbroom7147 For some reason my reply keeps getting deleted. Maybe it's because of the link citing my source, Crunchbase. But Quoting yearly sales figures shows you do not understand how companies are valued. Crunchbase is one of many site specializing in company valuations - and says in 2021 , Ecoflow had a value between $1 Billion and $10 Billion dollars.
Paired with solar, they are in fact "power stations / solar generators". Without it they are kinda dumb or pretty niche but have several other uses still. Great idea to use LiFePO4 as a UPS for your sump pump imo, instead of paying less for batteries that need to be replaced every 3 years and don't keep the sump going as long.
In a generation of hearing this bs, and given the overall state of the education system, children will start thinking a billion of these Chinese units is what makes the sun shine.
The 75V DC limit is no biggie because:
1. The Home 3000 expansion batteries all have MPPT controllers and 1500 W of solar input on *each* battery. That’s right. Ya’ll kind of missed this.
2. Higher amperage. 45A - this isn’t in the manual but it’s in the FAQ on the launch page. Since amps are taken as needed, it makes for easy overpaneling with your solar panels in parallel.
But a really big advantage higher amperage gives you is you can connect directly to a vehicle alternator without having to put in a DC to DC converter, or a AC to DC inverter. With charging typically over 600W.
Making this an even cooler device.
Another thing not mentioned is pass-through power. Even Ecoflow’s delta pro will do an overcurrent shut down if you start trying to pass through more than 20 A. Basically they are limited when plugged into the wall to 1800 W of pass-through, the output is limited by the input.
But according to Gendome, they said this device could pass through 3000 watts. First, applying it to devices that are attached, and then secondarily to battery charging.
That would’ve been a test I would’ve liked to have seen, how well that works because if they can deliver on that, it’s a big deal for using these as a UPS without a transfer panel.
Other tests I would’ve liked to see, the Home 3000 multicharges up to 3000 W . I would’ve liked to see it push 3000 W with the solar panels and AC both connected.
And also the 12 ms switch overtime. Does it make the lights flicker when it switches over? Does it affect your computer? This would be good tests to see.
Thanks.
Thumbs up 👍 and not getting any shock hazard. Solar is in a much better position now. We are now seeing some better equipment coming out from the manufacturing. You are getting results in what you have been asking for. You are making a difference. Thanks again for your work.
Got one during the initial sale, used it several times so far, no issues pretty impressed with it.
P.S. We just made a video talking about how hard it is to read some of these manuals for products just before I found your video....LOL
(Glad to see that this one is clear and to the point) :)
P.P.S. Wish the wheels were larger, It would make it easier to roll around on heavier carpet settings.
P.P.P.S. Nice review as always, THANK YOU !!!!!
I'm wondering what the hole spacing is on the wheels. Was thinking the same regards their size. The look a bit smaller than I'd like and was thinking some nice big locking casters might be an option.
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Given the 45 amp DC input, there’s not a problem adding two more panels at all if you use a 2S4P configuration. You also might do a little better as is in a 2S3P configuration.
Using the Rich Solar 200W panel specs, 2S is 48.3VOC X 9.8A = 473.33W.
3P would be 29.4A X 48.3V = 1420W.
Add your 2 more panels in parallel,
4P is 39.2A X 48.3V = 1893.36 watts.
Not a problem really, you just have to configure for a higher amp ceiling, and of course if you go over in amps it’s not a problem.
Yes but you have to use higher gauge wire, especially if you get up to 45a you're talking about using a 6awg wire! That's massive for solar. High voltage is always better in solar.
I don’t think it’s accurate to say it’s always better. Being able to hook it up directly to a vehicle alternator without a DC to DC converter is a huge plus.
Sure, you can save a little on cables. But that’s a much more straightforward install then a converter or inverter. @@minutemanprep
@@minutemanprep 70V x 22A = 1540 Watts. The Home 3000 will only take 1500W. Each extra battery also has it's own 1500W MPPT controller.
Maybe not how you have or would configure a competing solar generator - but not so different and arguably better actually.
Sweet
I find it fascinating that all these reviewers' first and most important feature...is it's appearance! I don't give a rat's you-know-what about how it looks. I want efficiency, convenience, longevity and reliability.
Good little unit. I'm thinking of getting a Power station that I can run my grow lights on during the day (484 watts) during the day (10 hrs.) and charge at nights via wall charger during the off peak time. The boss is not ready to drop the $$$ on a set up yet.
Seems like a good generator for me except for the low VOC limitations. If someone comes out with a 250 to 500 VOC with 3000+watt solar charge capabilities I would buy it. Without it potentially killing me of course - looking at you Hysolis ;).
Yeah boy!!!! Apollo!!!!!
Do you have any solar system builds for your home outside of portable solar generators? I’d love to see a video on Sol-Ark and EGO4 Life PO4 battery setup.
In the works. But it's a long process. I will eventually have videos and guides on how to completely go off grid or do grid tied with battery backup. I'm in a special training course right now to make sure I understand everything. Then I'll go to a week of hands on training where I actually install a few systems. it's going to be legit!
Looks like a sleek unit that was well thought out. Very interesting. Split phase would have been clutch. On a side note, have you gotten your Zendure yet? Got mine yesterday, but haven't had time to test it yet because of work. Keep us posted.
Nope not yet, hopefully in the next couple of weeks it'll show up.
Got my Zendure SBV about 3 weeks ago and so far it’s been great. Has the 240v outlet and has been running my 1/2hp deep well pump and everything else within the cabin. It’s new and have had to work through some software update glitches but to run an off grid small home and well pump on one unit is amazing.
@@Mike-it7ic I agree. I own my fair share of various brands and models. This is by far the most innovative and feature forward device I have seen. I'm just so happy I took the plunge at the Kickstarter campaign price. It's worth it, even at retail but the discount makes it even sweeter. Enjoy.
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How would one recharge this with an AI Power 2000? What port and would one need some kind of dongle?
Great review. Do you know if the app can be used without an internet connection and do you need to be logged in to Gendomes servers. Seems some manufacturers won't allow you to use their apps without being logged in and in a grid down SHTF scenario that means you lose control which is madness imho. I saw on the Indiegogo page it has BT and Wifi. Wondering if it allows a wifi direct connection so no need for a router. Cheers.
From what I can tell you must use wifi.
@@minutemanprep Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated. I've just dropped Gendome an email just to be 100% rock solid positive. Will drop a comment back here once they respond in the hope it might help someone else. Love the channel. Cheers.
I still think the the Eco flow Delta Pro beats this if not only from the fact that you can hook two of those together and get 240v output. This unit does not offer this and they are close to the same price.
Would this unit be good to run a 12-volt AC system?
75v input is a deal breaker for me
It’s not a problem. There’s a 45 amp ceiling, you just have to use the panels in parallel.
@@billytanglewood5665 45 will push like 150? nope.
@@jeff-nt2qk Way more actually.
Home 3000 45 amps X 75V = 3,375 Watts. But it takes a max of 1500W,
AND add 200 watts on the second MPPT controller input - so 1700W.
In a vehicle, 13.5 V alternator X 45A = 607.5Watts, without additional hardware.
You can add the second 200W MPPT controller there too, for 807W DC car charging.
Each extra battery has a 1500W MPPT controller as well.
Delta Pro 150v X 15A = 2,250 Watts. It also has a 1500W ceiling.
In a vehicle, 13.5V x 15A = 202.5W.
Extra batteries have NO MPPT controller, totally depend on the main unit to charge.
Gondome definitely looked at the Delta Pro, and determined to surpass it.
@@jeff-nt2qk Basic math Jeff. 70 volts times 22 amps = 1540 watts. The Home 3000 will take 1500W max.
Any chance you will be testing a Anker PowerHouse 767 - 2048Wh | 2400W. Thanks.
Anker has reached out asking me to review it but they haven't followed through yet. If you shoot them an email and request me reviewing it I am sure they'd send it out sooner than later.
Do you know if you can charge your devises while you charge the unit with solar power at the same time. Looks like you can do this with electric but not sure about solar. I know that eco flo will charge devices and power with solar at the same time but not sure about the Anker Let me know Thanks. I will reach out to Anker.
@@andytrimbach2006 I don't know about the anker doing that since I haven't tested it.
Genhome Gendock 3000 is a European ( German ) made product. Therefore it uses the native AC output for European electronic appliances, namely 220-240 v. If you want 220-240 v buy a German model. Problem solved regarding "split phase".
Actually in the EU, 240v power is most commonly 3-phase, sometimes single phase.
@@minutemanprep You are correct, that is why I put "split phase" in inverted commas. But the point is I can run every appliance in my 220v - 240v home using a European-made Genhome/Gendock 3000. No complications, unless you are in the United States where appliances are (mostly) 110 v.
Four items: 1. I can't help but think that sooner or later there will be a manufacturers' shakeout as a few battery producers take over the market, much the same as happened to the US automakers between 1906 and 1920. Who wants to get stuck with a problematic battery or system athat can no longer get serviced? 2. Did Apollo resolve the electric shock problem you mentioned in a past video? 3. Unless I missed something, you said you CANNOT hook up expansion batteries to this unit? 4. What State are you in? I don't want your address but it would help to get a better idea of your climate and average temperature for the batteries you review. I am in Michigan. A big drawback is we only average about 88 full sunny days per year. Yesterday and today I have a lot of wind but little to no sun. Thank you in advance for your response.
Apollo did resolve the issues and are already making new units that should be available around August is the current timeline.
You can connect expansion batteries to this unit.
I'm in SE Idaho.
The parent company of Gendome is Gotion, one of the largest battery makers in the world. They supply batteries for Volkswagen EV's, VW owns 26% of the company.
And the two companies have a team working on solid state and semi solid state batteries. That is going to be bigger than LFP.
@@billytanglewood5665About a year ago I watched a documentary on solar systems used by remote farms in Australia. Assuming everything worked as intended many of their power problems would have been solved. Various full off grid systems, not using gasoline or diesel powered generators which they were trying to move away from, would have been their answer. Unfortunately, many buyers invested $40,000 - 60,000 and up in systems that were far less efficient than promised including some that never performed better than 40%, failed after a short time, or never worked all. The biggest problem was sellers who went of business in a year or two, in turn negating "10 year warranties."
No matter who or what it is, there will always be some shakeout with new businesses and technologies. "Faster, better, cheaper" is the way it is. The other day I read an article about rare earth metals needed for electronics and super magnets. China controls 85% of them. Mr. Musk and people like him just discovered 2 things: Canada and a few other countries have large deposits of similar or less pure metals that do the same job with about 20% less efficiency at far less cost which will eliminate the Chinese near monopoly. For the intended uses, materials that provide that level of overall efficiency are more than enough.
Ben just posted a short video he made at a trade show wherein he remarked that reliability is everything. He is 100% right. Nothing has to be rare, exotic, or over engineered. But it does have to work as intended every time you need it.
As for batteries and solar powered systems, there will be a point at which they cannot be improved, either due to the amount of radiation contained in a specific amount of sunlight and the limitations of existing materials to convert it to usable energy, the economic costs, or even political considerations which we see presently in the head long charge to electrify everything.
It's all changing fast, is often confusing, and everyone has an opinion on it. In 1990 you bought a base car and ordered numerous option with it, if you wanted them, which cost you more. Ten years later car companies loaded up every car they made with every item that had earlier been options. The few remaining options were things like bigger tires, better quality tires, and more expensive radios. The upshot was when you bought a new car you paid for and received almost every imaginable option whether you ever used or wanted it. That is good for the car company but not for me. To this day I have never opened the "moon roof" on any vehicle I ever owned but yet I paid for them, like it or not. Do I need a solar system with every new whistle and bell some unknown engineer dreamed up just because he could? Probably not. I need one that works when I need it, like Ben said. On the other hand it is often worth the time to walk around in Lowes or Home Depot for example, just to see what is new.
On the other hand, yesterday Ford Motor announced it will no long have AM radios in their vehicles after 2024 because you can access AM from the internet. Well now, I like the AM radios I have in my vehicles that I use by pushing very simple buttons or a touch screen. It was noted that some European car makers have that now. What do I care what they do in Europe? I don't want or need "internet everything" just because some lunatic thinks it is an "improvement."
Billy, thanks for your reply. I will look further into the company you cited. So far I have not found anything negative about them but in fact just the opposite.
I'm selfish, and want it all from a solar/rechargeable unit like this; a big amp hour 12V battery with the 3,000 watt plus inverter. I have a 50 amp RV. You said the unit was limited to 30 amps, I believe. This means that I will still a generator or other outside source if I need to run my aircon? Doesn't it? One is able to invert every outlet as if their 50 amp RV was a 30 amp RV? This would enable you to run TV, fridge, microwave etc? I apologize for my rudimentary understanding of electricity.
The Gendome can do up to 25a output total through the TT30 RV plug. If you wan to run a 50a RV you'll need to power stations. It's definitely possible to run the RV up to 50a and power the entire thing, but the follow up question becomes can you put enough solar panels on the roof to recharge that kind of a system every day?
@@minutemanprep Thanks for answering my questions. I realize the unit can't power all loads on a 50 amp RV all day long. What I really want to know is can this unit, on a 50 amp RV for instance, power a single 15,000 watt rooftop aircon unit (equipped with Easy Start, of course) overnight (approx 8 hours)? See, what I want to do is sleep in my RV's bedroom all night without activating the generator and depleting my propane supply. We avoid RV resorts and camps (they are overcrowded and filthy nowadays) as much as possible. However, even on expansive Land Management areas, there are noise restrictions precluding generator use between the hours of 10 pm and 8 am. Thanks. They are making 12V fridges now. Can 12V aircon be far behind?
@@rogerspalding5673 Yes it'll run a 15k BTU A/C. But it will not run it for 8hrs. A 15k BTU A/C uses about 1,300w to run. 8hrs x 1,300w =10,400wh of battery necessary. Not even with the Home 3000 plus two expansion batteries will it have enough to run that A/C unit for 8hrs non-stop. Sorry. A Delta Pro with 2 expansion batteries can. Or the new upcoming Apollo with 1 expansion battery can. You're welcome to email me and we can figure out what would work best. info@poweredportablesolar.com
8 month ago I suported Gendome in Indigogo. They promised to deliver in april to Europe. Only loose promisses till so far nothing to The netherlands. Only reason they are working on a network.... Just send my 2250 peach of battery. My summer season is over, thats why I bought, so I had not to cook on gass in my summer house. next sunday over for nxt 7 month. So thank you for wanting my money and do nothing with it.
Dispite all the youtube video's i feel scamed. They offert once moneyback on The Gendome. but i want where i paid for.
are there more people with this problem?
It's huge, fo tht size you can make your own station with double the power.
Where's the next video on ac500??
It's partially filmed and being worked on.
The Amps are Impressive but the 75 Volt Max is a Big No for Me, Question, Can you think of any Power station that allows more than 150 volts.
There is one. The Apollo coming out soon. I can get you all the details if you'd like by emailing me at info@poweredportablesolar.com
Why? Volts times Amps equals watts, so 75V X 45A + 3,375 Watts. The Home 3000 takes 1500W on the solar input, so that's overpaneled by a lot, plus add another 200W on the second MPPT controller for 1700W total.
In your car 45A x 13.5V = 607.5 plus another 200W on the second controller, so over 800W car charging - without any extra hardware.
Although a battery isolator would probably be a good idea, but not necessary.
And the extra batteries each have their own 1500W MPPT controller built in.
It's killer man. Well thought out.
@@billytanglewood5665 I have a bunch of 40volts and up panels, I'm not gonna put them all in parallel over for about an 80ft run. I will lose more watts going that route, with more amps and less volts. Then I would have to get a Combiner Box, I'd rather have a 4 huge panels in Series or do a 2S2P Configuration, with this Power Station I can not do Either, using smaller panels 180-200v in a 3S3P is such a drag, I prefer not to if I could help it
@@Moes_Prep_and_Tech Meh. Gendome 1500W solar input limit = 70 volts X 21.42 Amps. (leaving a little volts headroom for cold weather.)
The Ecoflow Delta Pro has a 15A ceiling on the solar in. It's not so bad really, practically speaking.
To me, it seems inconvenient for all of the sockets to be at the back.
So when they say to use the voc to calculate your input, is that just incase it short circuits?
It accounts for voltage produced from solar panels in different temperature and environments. When the panels are colder they can make more voltage. That's why you use VOC to stay safe.
Only 75 volts of solar??
It does 45amps- this may be the highest of any power station on the market.
I wander constantly, why these manufacturers don’t keep EU residents in mind when building these.
Everything is 240V in EU. And being able to have one of these (maybe add more later) for a complete home power backup, that would be nice.
But they make it so hard to get 240V even on a single outlet in general. 😩😢
A lot come in a different model for the EU, and there are some EU-only models as well. Many reviewed on this channel are from U.S. companies and they aren't big enough to start dealing with foreign regulations.
You can get this unit in US/EU and UK voltage with the relevant output plugs to suit. Follow the link in Bens description.
Crowd-funding (strike one). 88 pounds for a "portable" power station (strike two). Large inverter, battery, and charge controller bundled into the same unit, creating a single point of failure (strike three). If you need emergency backup power for your home, off-grid power for a small cabin, or substantial power for a larger RV or camping situation, this would seem to fit the bill. The problem is, for the same cost you can build a much more capable component-based stationary system that doesn't have any of the disadvantages mentioned above.
I get that a lot of folks want something that is very user-friendly, meaning plug-n-play, but it's important to understand there is a cost associated with those conveniences. For those willing to do a little math and apply a little elbow grease, you can put together a much better solution, and one that is serviceable, should the need ever arise.
I will also point out that the charge controller can handle a lot of amps, but is limited to 75 volts on the input, so you will need to be careful if you're putting residential panels in series to charge the battery in this product.
1. Re: Crowdfunding. The parent company, Gotion is one of the largest battery manufacturers in the world, and the majority shareholder is Volkswagen. And they have promised to deliver this product. In fact, it’s already in the United States waiting to be sent out on local delivery.
2. 88lbs. Considering the capacity this is not bad. Like everything you have to say compared to what? The delta pro which is somewhat comparable is 100 pounds.
3. Having all the components integrated into one unit is a Feature, not a bug. It produces economy of scale. You could make the same criticism of your television set, router, modem, and computer. It’s a weak argument, really more of an indictment of the lack of quality in self build parts.
4. It’s true If you have the expertise and the time, you could build a similar unit - but probably not with Alexa and Google home, assistant control, energy price tracking, the weather report, and nailing all those components on to a piece of plywood for easy swapping out of components isn’t exactly what I would call ergonomic.
You could save a bit, but there are a lot of people that just would like to buy a plug and play system.
But sure, you can go to Will Prowse’s channel and learn how to build something for sure.
@@billytanglewood5665 - If they're a big company, why use crowd-funding? You literally listed four individual components that ARE separate, as part of your argument for combining things into one. What I said was you could get more system for less money, and that's a fact. It's not a horrible product, but people should understand what it is and what the alternatives are, don't you think?
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1. Crowd funding is a modern manufacturer's tool now, to launch new products using other people's money.
Ecoflow is a multibillion dollar company now, and they also still crowd fund. There are marketing companies that deliver templates to established manufacturers for how to do this and make it look like an upstart company. .
2. You could build a product for less for sure. But not one that competes ergonomically and in terms of features,, and not everyone has the expertise to self build.
3. Integrated all in one boxes with server rack batteries are taking over the self build market now. They are dead cheap, and a lot less hassle, and sure look better than
a bunch of stuff nailed to a piece of plywood. Check out Will Prowses page, he can build something more powerful than a Delta Pro with integrated components at a quite
competitive price point.
Should we abandon all integrated components for point to point wiring of individual components? Well throw out your TV, your cell phone - your computer then!
@@billytanglewood5665 - Ecoflow's gross sales for 2021 (latest numbers available) were $220M...a far cry from being a "multibillion dollar" company. Still, they make enough that they shouldn't need the consumer to fund their R&D costs. Would you want to have paid for the cost of developing the Bluetti EB3A, considering what a turd that thing has turned out to be? I'm not sure what ergonomics has to do with large, stationary storage solutions. Some of these latest offerings are simply too big to really be portable. You list TV, cell phone and computer as separate components. Do you want them all crammed into one thing, so that if any one of them breaks, all of them are down? Thank you for reiterating all of the points I made earlier.
@@jasonbroom7147 For some reason my reply keeps getting deleted. Maybe it's because of the link citing my source, Crunchbase. But Quoting yearly sales figures shows you do not understand how companies are valued. Crunchbase is one of many site specializing in company valuations - and says in 2021 , Ecoflow had a value between $1 Billion and $10 Billion dollars.
Don't understand why these things are called "power stations" or "solar generators". They are neither, they are fancy and expensive batteries.
Paired with solar, they are in fact "power stations / solar generators". Without it they are kinda dumb or pretty niche but have several other uses still. Great idea to use LiFePO4 as a UPS for your sump pump imo, instead of paying less for batteries that need to be replaced every 3 years and don't keep the sump going as long.
In a generation of hearing this bs, and given the overall state of the education system, children will start thinking a billion of these Chinese units is what makes the sun shine.