2022 Nissan Titan XD, or should it have been HD? I'll explain my theory on where Nissan made mistake
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- 2022 Nissan Titan XD could have made an important Heavy Duty. It already has 10 ply tires, heavy duty frame for NV vans, recirculating ball steering, gooseneck factory bed ball option, towing mirrors and integrated trailer brake controller. I like the XD, miss the V-8 Cummins. It handles trailers like an HD and almost rides as rough as HD. If Nissan would have put a full floating rear axle in the XD and just a few more tweaks, it could have competed with just 3 brands instead of four 1/2 ton brands. I'm not saying it should tow 30K , but it could tow 16k where most of the HD trucks really work. My review truck was the Platinum Reserve 4x4 only in a crew cab. It was nice, nice wood trim, nice black and brown interior, more than nice leather seats. I enjoyed the truck, felt confident with a trailer. #MrTruckIzzyReview #trailering #MrTruckReview mrtrailer.com/...
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Love the Nissan Titan XD....best truck in America....
I have this truck, and agree that it is a hidden gem. Fully agree on the full floating axle being a worthy upgrade if Nissan actually cared about it's full size trucks.
Thanks, now if we can just get Nissan to listen to us
I've had 3/4 ton 4x4 trucks before. I bought this one to get the heavy duty with a fine ride. Don't change it to be a harsh ride.
Thanks Mr. Truck for another great video. Love the Titan XD - not the best on fuel in it's class but in my experience these are well built, better than the big three. Had a 2001 Pathfinder that made it over 400,000km without significant issues. Too bad they cancelled this truck in Canada for 2021 onward.
Thanks for sharing
I really do like the Titans and I think they are underrated for sure. The main issue I have is the fuel capacity. They need to have a larger tank. Don't know what Nissan is thinking putting a 26 gallon tank in the XD.
I agree
I have a 2018 XD with the gas motor and it's a great truck, I don't need an HD truck but I got WAY more bang for my buck with the Titan XD than I could have with an F150, Silverado or Ram.
Good to know
Love my ‘19 XD but Nissan failed to market this truck. I can’t recall a Titan commercial for this gen and didn’t even know about the XD until I took my daughter’s car to the dealership (just happened to pickup a brochure).
Remember what the space shuttle stunt did for the Tundra?
I agree, Ford and Ram understand marketing. Occasionally GM sees something. Nissan doesn't understand. I don't see much either for Nissan ads, except the Rogue
Despite not having the ,massive tow and payload numbers of other 2500 trucks, it is actually a class 2b vehicle which makes it a 2500.
Except for full floating axle
@@MrTruckTV a truck class is determined by GVWR not axles, which is why it's a class 2b vehicle.
@@Rider.WhiteHorse I argued for years with Nissan that they should have put full floating axles on their HD and called it a HD 3/4 ton truck, it would have sold better. It has the same steering as a HD
I'm glad to have the last generation 2024 xd pro4x loved
very cool i bought 2017 pro 4x4 5.6 liter 8cyl etc it is an awesome truck 56 800 kms only 32000miles. it has tonneau not sure about factory goose neck on my truck bed but i do not know how to open close the tonneau cover? i can open locked tailgate but stumped at this option IT IS NOT ELECTRIC lol. it is a beauty truck it rules drivin round regina sk as there are more gm fords etc all lookin the same then comes the TITAN 4X4 TO KICKEM IN THE BALLS CREWCAB BLUE METTALIC AND ALL LEATHER INTERIOR TOW PACKAGE AND 360CAMERA. THIS THING IS A BEAST WHEN IM DONE MODDING THIS BEAST THE LIBERAL CRYBABYS GONNA BE SLAPPING THE HOOD OF MY TRUCK OH WAIT THEY DOIN THAT ALREADY I LOVE IT LIBERAL TEARS IN MY COFFEE.🦍🦍🦍🦬🦬🦬🦁🦁🦁🐷🐖🐽🐫🐪🐘🦣🦣TITAN PRO4X4 FOREVER I WILL DRIVE NISSAN TITAN FOR THE REMAINDER OF DAYS. CB PLUS POLICE SCANNER PLUS FRONT FULL BRUSH GRILLE OR BOTTOM GRILL COVER WITH SKID PLATE NOT SURE BUT ROLL BAR AND WINCH ALL THE THINGS IN A DECENT TRUCK EXCEPT THE MASSIVE BILL. 29K CDN FUNDS 56 THOUSAND KMS. TINT WINDOWS ETC.
Cool
I own a 2021 XD, I use it for a 3 horse GN horse trailer. I have to say, love the truck, however, for a daily driver and towing, horrible MPG but in all fairness, does an amazing job. I did do a 3 inch lift kit and bigger tires, still drives and tow's as stock.
Thanks for sharing
Great review and love listening to you two discussing the truck - my 2017 TITAN XD DIESEL is almost out of warranty so I’m looking at what your driving for my next truck - thanks 🍻
Thanks
Mr. Truck, Don't worry about not having the gooseneck... I watched just so i could see the Deckover Dump (@ 8:00). You and I got lucky to have gotten ours before Covid shut production down.... Good luck finding a new one now. There's a few, but Very few. Make sure you put the dump up-n-down from time to time, just to keep the scissor joints smooth and free acting 💪. Thanks for the content ✌️ ☮️ ~
Thanks, I should haul some crushed concrete this month
XD is great for recreational towers.
Mr. Truck, the infotainment screen has section which shows you the grade and side to side angle if the truck, real-time. Just scroll the horizontal arrows (left side of the steering wheel).
Good to know
I Wish It Were The Heavy Duty Nissan Titan & The Heavy Duty Toyota Tundra.
Me too
Even though some half tons are rated to tow more, they will not do it with the same stability and confidence as the XD. Its heavier and handles the weight better. So if you're towing heavier more often this will handle it better tham a half ton due the the stronger frame snd components.
Yes I noticed that, it was solid. Wish they would have just made it a HD
@@MrTruckTV me too. I really think they can safely tow and haul more than theyre rated for, especially considering the frame. It seems pointless to add all of that weight of a heavy duty frame, suspension and drivetrain components only to be rated less than many half tons. Only real benefit is the stability without the rough ride of a 3/4 ton. I would have liked to see more towing and hauling capacities. My platinum reserve with the Cummins weighs as much as and more than some 3/4 tons.
When I was told my Titan is heavy I said I know it's got plenty of Steel in it. I love it.
Cummins...screwed Nissan...Remember everyone it was not Nissan it was Cummins that screwed up....
I agree with everything you said. upgrade the rear axle. go 8 lug. class 5 hitch. The front end has seemed plenty beefy enough for my Titanxd at 4900lbs and has plowed with a 800 pound plow on the front end for 3 years with zero issues. once they do these simple improvements and really dig in they should start to make some headway. But they absolutely need to bring back the single cab 8 foot bed and king cab 8 foot bed added for work trucks if they want to sell a lot of units. One other thing they did that drove me crazy was the S trim level titan XD didn't even come with a trailer hitch. What a silly mistake that was.
I agree
the class v hitch is an option for these on the build site. I know you couldn't order one for a long time during COVID, not sure if that has changed yet. I looked closely at these. Price wise they are too expensive brand new for what you get. But if you can find a good deal on a slightly used one with low miles they are worth considering over the HD trucks from Ram, Ford, and Chevy if you need more than a 1/2 ton
@@mikefinnegan7469 I wanted one
I wish the big 3 pffered the headlight adjusters. Toyota has had it since 2007. Really comes in handy when tpwing or hauling heavy loads. Puts the light back on the road instead of blinding oncoming traffic. Never understood why the domestic trucks never offered this.
I understand, but I'd rather had trucks that didn't squat much with a load. Toyota and Nissan trucks squat the most under a load in my experience.
@@MrTruckTV my 2016 XD with 1500lbs of salt gel squatted way less than the 2014 F250 6.2l I had before with the same load. It leveled my Titan XD but the F250 squatted big time. I don't lile squat either but at least Nissan amd Toyota have something to help. In my experience in the oilfield with 3/4 tons Fords have squatted the most. Thanks for all of your content and the time you take for us.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix You bet you're welcome. Thanks for watching
Vehicle fit average Joe needs tow boat, travel trailer, dump trailer . Unless average Joe has very big $toys$.
Great video nice truck I hope your doing great 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks, you too!
Axle ratio is a 4.08 in that truck.
Debating on picking one up or waiting to see if they make second gen xd. Would love it if they made a truck that had 15000 lb capacity
Yeah, I think the XD should have been an HD
Im looking forward to buy the latest titan before they are all gone, I will feel good having the big 3 and the 2 Japanese truck of a total of 5 all top of the line
Go for it. More brands, more completion, makes America great
@@MrTruckTV it’s an honor to have you reply directly to me Mr truck and I just got it, I had insane discounts and I am very happy with it so I have 5 trucks now and I will keep them for ever
@@jesuslozano5468 Good deal !
That's a nice truck!
Yes it's a gem in the wild that doesn't get enough attention
Nice looking truck. Be safe.
Thanks, you too
They should just made it a 3/4 ton! P.s Mr truck you need a higher qaulity Camera!
In the UA-cam screen, go to settings and put it on 1080p the picture will be better
@@MrTruckTV ok thanks
Wish you can test mpg with this XD empty load
I'll try to remember if I get one to drive this year
If nissan took their xd Diesel from commercial trucks with def and put stronger axles and your running with big dogs.
I agree
That’s a very nice premium level truck by Nissan (typically very good Japanese design & build quality) being a middling between a real 3/4 ton and a regular 1/2 ton. I’d seriously consider this truck, however, I’ve also read the poor sales numbers and how it’s discontinued for sale in Canada because of just that alone. I’d like to mention how I love their in-the-box storage, yet this truck requires premium fuel 😳. By comparison after pricing one of these out, my 6.6L gas Chevy 2500 at a comparative model level (Pro4X vs LTZ with Z71 or an SV vs LT), costs nearly identical and doesn’t need premium fuel. I also like that I have more torque, and my frame, etc. etc., is built for far more … payload (+3000), travel trailer capacity (+14,000). I haven’t seen anyone review an option I bought from GM, which is my side-mounted bed storage box (similar to what this Titan has), and love it as it keeps a 4ft. width floor and full bed length (+81”L in GM/Chevy HD). Detailed review, thank you!
Yeah, I'm against Titan, GM and Ford making us use premium. I haven't seen a GM side box, it's made by GM?
@@MrTruckTV Hi there Kent. I’ve enjoyed many of your videos and those with the guys at TFL…. I’m glad my 6.6L gas engine only requires regular 89 octane to achieve the claimed ratings. If it helps you think of another episode to consider = yes the side mounted bed storage box kit (come as a pair, one for each side) is made by GM. Simply type exactly what I wrote as that is its correct long winded name. I could send you a photo of how mine (loaded with tools & straps/ropes and auto cleaning gear and emergency gear = love it!) Another item overlooked that I recently realized is likely an Oil Catch Can (mine is Mishimoto but I saw J&L has one too). I just purchased and installed it to mitigate aerosols from building behind the intake valves. I remember your interview with Mike Koceba at the Flint, MI plant who seemed to indicate that they have some technology in place during that torturous path of piston bypass fluids to catch most of those liquid aerosols. After watching a few videos from others on this, I know it’s an investment to less maintenance prevention. Take care Mr. Truck (Kent) 👍🏼. Gotta get back to watching our Oilers play tonight. Robert from Edmonton (Alberta).
@@MrTruckTV if it interests you, feel free to ask me a question related to oil refining as I’ve consulted to them for +20 years now, regarding filtering their fluids in their process plants when making diesel, gasoline and other commodities. One reason I chose a gasoline over diesel is because I only haul a Toy Hauler travel trailer and needed a truck that meets its tongue weight. My experience with refinery engineers has to do with their challenge to make diesel at the proper cleanliness spec. and cloud point (depending the ambient temperature of where it will be sold to). Gasoline is much cleaner and although there are more steps in the processing, it so much cleaner that engines can expect less issue when they buy it at a fuel station. Although my fuel mileage won’t match a diesel, but as I’ve calculated, that $10K purchase difference will take years before the diesel takes the lead from me, not including their typically higher oil change and other plausible maintenance issues. But Chevy/GM could do something simple to make their HD series more comfortable = soften / improve your seats because they are dam hard (I could drive for many hours in my previous Ram truck without noticing discomfort). That’s my two bits. Robert.
@@nhlcfl7733 I will do that, I'm reviewing XP3, have you heard of it?
@@nhlcfl7733 Thanks Robert
That thing sounds like it revs pretty dang high for a v8 lol. Nice v8 fun sounds though. Something ford can’t do despite how great people say that ecoboost works for some is make them sound very good. I have yet to hear one that sounded good. The turbo noise is cool but you can barely hear em if it’s stock.
Yeah I bought an old Ford F150 so I could have a 5.0L, and I have a GMC 454 and a Dakota 318. So I can hear V-8's for a while
Still think this was a test. And given the bad sales numbers I don´t think there will be one someday. But focusing on gasoline engines almost only for the US market for the pickups and all the commercial vehicles (NV) gone there is a slight hope...
It's sad
@@MrTruckTV Also sad that the NV is gone. One of the better models from Nissan.
@@SvenQ45 Yes it was
Please measure the frame L×W× thickness at the end of cab and compare it with other hd
For example Ford super duty has 9.45×3.5×0.18
I only get the truck for a week. It's gone
Nice
Thanks
It’s rated t tow 11000 pounds so I’m about to test it with a two car J&F trailer
Yes
Yeah, the rear axle bothers me. Nissan took a 9.5" - 14 bolt AAM semi float housing and had AAM design a 250MM R&P. The result? Something that you will never find custom gear ratios for. I wish I could swap a 9.5" carrier in and have tons of ratios. Or better yet, why didn't they use the 10.5" -14 bolt full float? Also, 6 studs? Why? The NV has 8. Kinda fits in with the whole, don't confuse us with a real HD truck. OK the diesel is gone. I get it. It wasn't great, it chugged DEF like beer at a college party and nearly as heavy as the 5.9 - 6 cylinder that makes tons more power. Why not punch out the 5.6 to a 6.2 for the XD? To me it is obvious Nissan was not serious about this truck. It appears they did not do their research and talk to actual HD truck owners and listened to what they wanted. The NV is gone and from what Nissan is saying, the Titan will be dead soon as well.
How would I have built this truck? 10.5 full float rear. 9.25 solid axle front. Bring back the 5.9 - 6 Cummins and update that to modern emissions. Or punch out the 5.6 to 6.2 for the gas lovers. Offer a 6 speed manual or the Aisin Trans. 8 stud hubs, of course. Keep everything else the same!
I'm with you, they do need to talk to more truck owners
The only reason the XD exists is BECAUSE Nissan did their research. They looked at the market and saw that every year 75,000 people graduate from a half-ton to a 3/4-ton, but, at the same time, 75,000 people go from a 3/4-ton to a half-ton. That's 150,000 people every year that can't find a truck that's right for them. Nissan wanted to tap into that market with a tweener truck with the towing capacity of a half-ton and the towing confidence of a 3/4-ton.
The XD is a failure because of the badge on the grille. If Ford, GM, or Ram had made the XD it would sell in better numbers. Again, the market research proves that there is a need for a truck like the Titan XD, but this is also a market with a buyer base that is hostile to large Japanese trucks.