The thing is, he destroyed his family because of the Seer's prophecies as well. Now that he is disillusioned, he puts the blame on the Seer for his choices.
@@subutaynoyan5372 He took responsibility and didn't complain, lived with his decision, he puts blame on believing in the gods instead of doing what is reasonable, trusting in oneself
Very powerful scene. Ragnar's ability to think critically and question everything really sets his apart from the other Vikings. I think that's why among his people he was, for the most part, lonely. Ecbert was probably his only intellectual equal.
The writers of the show gave Travis Fimmel a phenomenal script here, and he executed it masterfully. This is one of the best scenes in the entire series...
True and I really liked the white horde scene. It had something emotional ragnar sees Everyone where hè thinks about. Even atlesthan in the back of his mind
"I don't believe in the gods existence. man is the master of his own fate, not the gods. the gods are man's creation to give answers, that they are too afraid to give themselves" Sent chills down my spine!!
"You presented her a destiny, and she manifested it." That is just so true, we follow words of others and create those words into our lives, when they can be so wrong but we believe them. So we do everything possible to make them true. Ragnar last scenes are the most wise ones, love it.
So true, when he was imprisoned they had some of the most intelligent dialogues with King Ecbert...I suppose when he stopped to fight we got a chance to see his wisdom.😊
Lol. It’s not true . “She was never going to have a child” his prophecy came to pass regardless , she could have as well stayed at home and had a miscarriage 😂. We are fated , believe it or not
Now that the show is completed, I can say that this scene is the best scene in the entire series and has so much meaning. Ragnar was always the one to push the boundaries of battle, Religion and thought. He was something special.
I agree that this scene is amazing. But for me the best scene is when Ragnar and Ecbert get drunk and talk about religion and honor, and ramble on like friends, because they may have both been the closest either of them have ever been to being understood.
I think Rollo wasnt to far behind in wisdom. He seen how the Christians were encroaching in all directions. Frankie, North Saxony, Kievan Rus, Novgorod. He played it well turning over to the West Frankish, became more powerful than anyone else in the show and the real Rollos bloodline now sits on the throne of England
This and Bjorn.. I just can’t stop coming back to. I just wish there was another show like this. The last kingdom was also decent, but I need more viking fix! Any suggestions welcome 🙏🏻
I reckon this is the most powerful scene in the whole series. After having a lot of conflict with belief in the Viking gods or Christian god, knowing that the seer was wrong about his death, Ragnar knows that he is just a man who guided his own destiny and not some higher being/s, which in the end, gave him the closure he needed.
but this is where it seems odd to me about walhalla or heaven, odin or a christian god. the ravens indicate that there is a vikings death so that means they are with odin right?, after ragnar died in the snakepitt later his sons seen the ravens and get a visit from odin......but did Ragnar not let himself been baptised and said cause when I die i want to see my friend Athelstan again. So this is odd to me is he with odin or is he with the christian god with Athelstan?
Harry DeRemmit The baptising was all a play to pull the wool over the eyes of both the Parisians and his own camp so he could successfully act out his ingenious way of entering the city of Paris. His feelings for Athelstan had always been true. Maybe he also felt that being baptised would be something Athelstan would of loved seeing and was also doing it to show his love for him and to sort of honour him as well.
yes come to think of it when he said goodbye to athelstan where he made this cross he said talked to the grave and said they will not se eachother again. And had someone els point out the same thing you just said and thank you for the answer i learned something new, sometimes the excitement of the show makes you misses the small details
i had one episode wich was so much excitement that in the end i was like wait what....what just happend, i litterly had to watch it again to understand more
Ragnar himself is a revolution. He is the first one to focus on the West. He is the first one who tried to understand other culture and religion. He is the first one to question the existence of the gods. He trully did a lot for his people, but at the end he didn't want anything as a reward. Ragnar Lothbrok is a typical person for the Renaissance era. He values the human life and all his personalities are very revolutionary. But he showed up too early for his era and his people don't have the required mindset to understand him.
Yes, yes, I know that this is historical fiction. But I am just amazed by the personality of the character Ragnar within the series. (I haven't read the original sagas about Ragnar) I just decided to share my opinion about his personality and experience.
Yeah well I thought it was obvious that the people watching this show aren't expecting a documentary when they do so you idiot. Anyone who watches this and thinks "oh my god the writers are trying to mislead people. this isn't accurate at all, i have to make sure they know the truth" doesn't even deserve to own a tv in the first place. When did the producers or writers or anyone in an executive position for the show ever claim the events that happen in it are true or an accurate representation of what happened. Matter of fact when have they ever really claimed it's anything more than just "based" off of the viking era? Ok so what the channel is called "History" I can't imagine any person with anything more than a below average iq watching the show, seeing the production value and think "wow all this stuff really happened?" Dude even if someone WANTED to fucking make a show that's a realistic portrayal of all the characters and events, etc. based only on things actually recorded they wouldnt even get past like a season or two. There's barely anything recorded about the Vikings because their communication was almost 100% oral-based so the only things we even have written down are from accounts by Englishmen or people that they raided, and don't forget it was probably not even common for English citizens to know how to write so only a small percentage of the societies even could record the events down. Imagine Aethelwulf writing about Ragnar's life story? What realism could you expect from that? I mean no wonder there is only legends of Ragnar and people don't even think he existed because there was probably no way anyone could learn to write in Viking lands besides only one-off scenario's where they learn it as a special skill, that no one else can do from someone who only would teach that person and not others. So how the hell are people saying shit like "This is unrealistic", and "Ragnar wasn't like this". You do realize that the best they can do is literally just make it seem believable enough for that era right? It's not like English or American history where they can go through journals day by day and discern every event that took place. I have no idea what you thought it would be like but dont fucking watch TV and expect to get accurate facts unless the program you are watching literally says "This is a fact". Never did Vikings claim it was entirely true or that the events in the show actually took place. How are you going to be outraged at a show that literally had the Pagan god "Odin" come to earth and speak with Ragnar's sons through a mind-link that makes him invisible to everyone else except them, and say it is not "accurate enough" or is too "unrealistic". WELL NO SHIT SHERLOCK DID YOU REALLY START WATCHING IT FOR ITS REALISM, OR AUTHENTICITY? It's like someone watching the TV show Merlin and saying "It's not factual" when it has fucking talking dragons and magic.
Fayçal Mansouri Then you've seen pretty few epic scenes lol. Don't get me i think this scene is epic too but to say that it's the best one ever, hell no
This is possibly one of the best scene's in television history. The acting, the music, the dialogue, the scenery. I don't think there is a single thing done wrong here.
"You may be right Ragnar Lothbrok for I am only the Seer I have walked amongst the lowest Of the dead and I have groped for meaning And I could have been wrong" That is without a doubt the best moment for me
The thing that is so great about this scene is that it feels Ragnar grows quieter and quieter as the series progresses, from season 1 to 4 he speaks less and less as he becomes more spiritual and reserved, he becomes wiser, thinking more rather then speaking. This is one of the few times it feels he says exactly what's on his mind, it is acted amazingly to allow the viewers to pick up on this. He lets it all out in this scene, it feels like the crescendo of the entire show and Ragnar's character as a whole, accompanied with a soundtrack that fits perfectly for an atheist man coming to terms with a sad but beautiful realisation of death, truely magnificent.
Very good assessment, especially the point about him growing quieter - its definitely evident when you look back on it and you feel his tensions and internal battles build up to this point. That being said - i felt he was still at war with himself for he still didn't know what to believe. He questions why things, why would gods do, reasoning, which god to believe. He is a man of questions and he looks for answers and doesn't want to just sit back and accept things- maybe his lack of clear answers here led him to almost resenting the gods and questioning there existence. Its such a great work in that it can be interpreted in so many ways. I found it hard to put into words, even as i do so i cannot really express all the mixed thoughts/emotions it invokes.
I disagree that Ragnar ended up with an atheistic philosophy - atheism doesn't just deny god/gods, it denies all divinity. Ragnar's was a Promethean philosophy, where he, instead of devotion to them, rose to meet the gods in their understanding. He followed Odin by becoming an embodiment of his quest for wisdom.
@@pvaldespino She loved him so much that she repeatedly spread her legs for his brother and passes their offspring off as Ragnar's without so much as telling him. Yes, true love!
Straight White Male we don’t know if that happened, and really it was just bad writing, nothing previously suggested that was the case. Also Ragnar cheated
Ragnar truly loved Lagartha... Even when facing his death he is defending her and wishing good for her... Such a man! Rough but gentle, deceptive but truthful, kind but doesn’t take other things for granted, good but a little bit bad... He’s a balanced man and understands everything! Vikings is my best show 👏
@@Philosophical_engineer I beg to differ. Ivar and Ubbe should have been the ones in charge. Bjorn and Lagertha both seriously overstayed their welcome. It's honestly why I stopped watching the show. Bjorn and Lagertha stopped being interesting. The writers gave them more stuff to do, new relationships, but I didn't care anymore. Ivar and Ubbe were breaths of fresh air, inheriting different aspects of Ragnar's legacy and they were played by brilliant actors. And yet, they were either turned into a villain or they were sidelined to play second fiddle to whatever wacky BS Michael Hirst decided to make up. The idea of Ubbe training King Alfred how to fight, for example. Such a laughably bad idea which flies in the face of historical facts about those two men. I didn't mean to go on a rant but I'm still angry about how badly this show nosedived when it should have soared to new heights with Ivar and Ubbe leading the Great Heathen Army to conquer England as a team.
@@Lamporre They also wasted Bishop Headmund's character imo. I did like seeing Bjorn conflicted in the last season about the decisions he has to make as a King. But the last season was too short.
The mistake of overusing a very charismatic character in a story. Michael Hirst made this whole thing a Ragnar driven story. And he completely blundered when he was supposed to follow up with a second generation. I love Katheryn Winnick, and loved Lagertha in first three seasons most of the time, but her not dying, and the show focusing on a family drama more than a true Nordic saga just killed the show. Because let's face it, Lagertha, Floki, Athelstan, Rollo or even Ecbert were all Ragnar based characters. Each of their stories were tied to Ragnar's actions. None of them(Save for Ecbert) had the wit, sharm or cunning of Ragnar. What the show was supposed to do, was to kill off the first generation with proper stories, turn Björn into an heir apparent who despite his best efforts, is not his father, and create a new arc between 5 brothers and the English. Instead, they just kept Lagertha in the centre with no justification whatsoever, never properly killing her off nor keeping her a proper character. I knew the show had no way of getting back on its feet, when Heahmund died whilst Lagertha who had no more story just lingered.
M Bayrak Floki was in a very interesting position when he got to train Ivar and mentor him like a second child after losing his own. And even Iceland could have been interesting because that’s what he historically did. But besides that, I agree with the comments here that Bjorn and Lagertha shouldn’t have become the stars after Ragnar died. It should have been Ivar and Ubbe. They were the most interesting of Ragnar’s sons, no matter how hard you try to push Bjorn onto us. He could have teamed up with Sigurd to oppose Ubbe and Ivar, but making Bjorn the obvious heir who can do no wrong is where Hirst failed to make Bjorn interesting.
@@wreckitking yes i too was very disappointed with how ivar turned out. ragnar chose him and believed in him because of his tactical mindset and unpredictability, which then showed when he would give his ideas to the rest of the brothers in battles and actually come out victorious. he had the potential to be another ragnar. Ragnar said everyone will come to fear ivar, but i dont think he wanted it to be this way. the character had so much potential! but just sunk into brutal madness... it does make sense though, it does match how he has been portrayed the entire movie, there has been darkness looming around ivar's character since he was a child.. still i hoped it wouldnt have sunk that deep into darkness and instead had some more adventure/exploration/tactics portrayed through his character. i is dissapoints..
All this time Ragnar and the other Vikings looked to the seer for guidance and now finally Ragnar questions him, what a scene, didn't know there was an extended version until now, thanks for the upload!
@tsikou aniphandis It seems odd to me about walhalla or heaven, odin or a christian god. The ravens indicate that there is a vikings death during a battle or such, so that means they are with odin right?, after ragnar died in the snakepitt later his sons seen the ravens and get a visit from odin......But did Ragnar not let himself been baptised and said cause when I die i want to see my friend Athelstan again. So this is odd to me is he with odin or is he with the christian god where Athelstan is?
Ragnar is a non-believer. He doesn't believe in gods, whether the christian, nor the vikings gods. Like he said, the religions were created by the people to give answers in a time (middle-age), where poverty and undistinguished education dominated.
the seer predicted that he would die the day when the blind man sees him but the blind man who see him says that it would be at least 1 more day until his execution that is why Ragnar smiles at the seer
The Seer states that Ragnar wants it to be true, so it is. The blind man being referred to is none other than King Ecbert. Ecbert thinks they are friends, but Ragnar does not consider him one. he wants his demise. Ecbert however feels guilty for sending a friend to death, so much so that he walks all the way to the scene where Ragnar will die so that he can watch a "friend" in his final moments. As soon as Ecbert makes eye contact with Ragnar, Ragnar gives his speech, and is then dropped into the snake pit. Ecbert was the blind man who saw him, not the blind man who claimed to see him.
@@nenadsubotic9507 Basically its a stalemate, the seer is defiantly firm in his stance the Norse pantheon does indeed exist while still acknowledging that neither of them can truly prove it with certainly. Yet Ragnar on the other hand is more on the midline not knowing what is really or not. This subtly show by him not challenging the Seers assertion.
"the gods are man's creation to give answers that they are too afraid to give themselves'' wow man, this gave me chills. This scene is pretty much the most powerful i've seen in television drama.
@different6620 Finally, someone who understands Ragnar doesn't believe in any religion. Which he clearly stated to King Ecbert and in this scene. I don't get how some people's brains can't grasp that concept.
@Aidan_H4 yet he said he was going to Valhalla,Odin preparing a feast and valkyries Yadda Yadda, isn't that an after life,? Isn't that a god? Isn't that a religion? Make it make sense.
Exactly, he couldve easily blamed the stupid decisions he made regarding cheating on lagertha and going to kill ivar and alot more on the seers prophecys. But like how he described the gods as a tool to relinquish man of responsibility he cannot fall into that trap and contradict himself. He takes responsibility of all his wrongs and shows his love for lagertha instead finally getting closure
“Ahhh the riddles you speak they have no real meaning your words can be interpreted in so many ways that they cease to cause comfort or knowledge but rather confusion”. Never read too much into what someone else is saying as human beings we’ve always cared about what other people have to say that we structure our lives around it the way we think, talk, dress , act and even speak Ragnar showed it was possible that even after many trials and tribulations you can stay true to yourself and what you stand for and most importantly that you control your fate and you should always be yourself that’s why I’m grateful we were blessed with this intellectual character.
This is easily the best scene in the hole series. The way that Ragnar speaks here, the way he controls the conversation in a way that he have never done before. He always thinks before he talks but this is the only scene that he really just relieve all the anger from his heart. It gets to me every time and I will always come back here to watch this masterpiece.
Just noticed that ragnar after he accepts his death he still thinks of lagertha and her baby, the baby that she got from another man. Shows how much he cared for her.
When the blind man says "I can see you" , it perfectly contrasts as a paradigm of The Seer's prophecy but also in the perspective that the seer was wrong and that Ragnar helped him see the truth as he has 'groped for meaning'
I truly miss the Ragnar character when watching Vikings now. Such a great series, especially in the early days when Ragnar, Rollo and Floki were just simple Vikings.
I love the seers willingness to confide that “you may be right” that the gods are man’s creation to give answers that they are afraid to give themselves. “I am only the seer. I have walked among the lost and the dead, and I have groped for meaning.” Two men having cosmological and philosophical turmoil. The seer sees that Ragnar may be right, but also rightly admits he has only been pursuing the truth in a sort of study to understand humans and the natural world. The seer proves religious thinking can be observationally similar to science. Reflection on the nature of reality has led both of these men to different, but equally distraught places. So much to pull from this scene.
He asked when will we reach King alle, then when he heard not until tomorrow he smiled. The seer said he will die the day the blind man sees him. But instead dies later. So he has proved him wrong
@Ymir Otsutsuki no it isn’t. That’s literally the whole point of this scene lmao. That prophecies are confusing and because they can be interpreted in so many ways they can always find a way to see it as true when it isn’t. He was prophecied to die on the day the blind man saw him. A literal blind man told him he literally saw him and her you guys have to come up with some “Ecbert was blind to Ragnar” bs which is obviously dumb if you think about it for 10 seconds lol
@@thrillainthemanilla1409 it isn’t dumb, Ecbert was “blinded” as in he believed in what Ragnar told him that his sons will only seek revenge after aelle and spare ecbert. Ecbert believing that Ragnar was his friend, actually believed him. And it turns out, Ragnar fooled him and his sons took revenge on both him and aelle.
Ikr Tbh I'm a Muslim Of course this scene is legandary cuz for me ragnar dared to challenge the seer and he proved em wrong at the end But for me i believe in an all powerful and almighty god
2:45 I've seen this show like five times already. And I just now realize that the moment Ragnar tells the Ancient one that he do not believe in the existence of gods, he smiles very subtly. As if Ragnar had suddenly discovered the secret of his own existence or at least the meaning of it. Very powerful.
I love the fact that when the seer confessed he may have been wrong, he parished from Ragnar's imagination, maybe all along the seer was just an imagination, yet so many people believed to him.
"Man is the master of his own fate! Not the gods. The gods are man's creation to give answers that they are too afraid to give themselves" This proves how smart Ragnar was, power and fame was always in his favour but his intelligence outmatched everyone
+boskovicderesve Can't people analyze characters in tv shows? Writers would completely waste their time if people would not be allowed to analyze their meaning through the characters they portray in stories.
@@boskovicderesve some of the events are actually true. The fake death scene to enter paris was done by bjorn not by ragnar. The way ragnar was killed. Also other moments and events actually happened.
This is without a doubt, one of the greatest scenes in television history imo. Words cannot describe how powerful and moving this scene is, Ragnar’s line about him choosing his fate is my favourite quote out of all TV and Cinema. Such an amazing character and an even better actor. This is also one of the only shows I’ve ever seen where the main character dies and it gets BETTER.
This is the most powerful and best scene in Vikings. The acting, script, music, all so incredibly powerful and utterly subliminal. Like Ragnar, we should all choose our fate, what we do in life and how we die if we can. We shouldn't believe in the existence of "gods". We are the master of our own fate, "Gods" are man's creation to give us answers that we are too afraid to give ourselves. Never truer words spoken. We miss you Ragnar.
Well you dont know if those are true words or not, nothing cant prove gods or god exist or not exist so affirm such a thing is scientifically a very arrogant position
Two years ago I first saw this scene and stuck with me vividly. It is the most relatable and honest spiritual dialogue I have ever seen on screen; The raise of focus from the double questioning at 2:36, Ragnar's subtle realization at 2:54, the concluding viewpoint: "The Gods are men's creation to give answers that they are to afraid to give themself." and The Seer clearly appearing as Ragnar's own reflection/intuition/spirit when the blind man states he didn't say anything... They all kept floating somewhere in my mind ever since.
Vikings is the best Serie i've watched, it have absolutely everything a Serie or a movie should have. It's not only a movie, it's a life lesson, but it also help people, it helped me. There's stuff i was unsure about, learned how much your life can be hurt and how much you can loose just by following your dream or one small desicion. Can't wait for another season!
Just now I understood what Ragnar was thinking when he asked the carrige driver about when they would reach King Alle. The Seer first told him that he would die on the day the blind man sees him, but this blind man tells him that they wouldn't reach Northumbria until the next day, that is what I believe triggered this conversation between Ragnar and the Seer.
"Man is the master of his own fate, not the gods. The gods are man's creation, to give answers that they are too afraid to give themselves." -King Ragnar Lothbrok
The only thing that separates Ragnar from all other Vikings is that he questions and criticizes. Neither Ivar nor Rollo nor Bjorn has accomplished this as well as Ragnar. Ragnar was and will remain a living legend.
This is the best scene so far in Vikings, And a lot of things is been learn from it, I just cant stop listen to regnar and the seer. There words of wisdom and knowledge and the way them reason things is one in a million.
Man this scene...like besides all of the things this scene represents it also shows Ragnar talking alone with Death. Death wants you to be afraid of it, to submit to it, be teriffied of it and to put you on your knees. But Ragnar embraced it actually. He was not afraid. He won. He made his path and met death in his terms...with a smile on his face. He knew he won. Such a powerful scene.
I find it lovely that when the seer asks how his propheties are dangerous Ragnar doesn't mention that it led him to try to kill himself many time juste to prove the gods wrong. He directly talks about how Lagertha didn't have another child because of the irrationnal decision she took based on the seer's prophety. She was more important to him. Great writing.
Yup. Religion is just a way to make sense of what we don't understand. It probably caused more problems for mankind than anything else throughout history.
Like others have said, this is my favourite and I think most powerful scene of the whole series. The music gives it the haunting immersion and captivation. This scene is truly art! Ragnar is having a moment of complete clarity and eloquent coherence. What a beautiful state of mind with which to leave this world, in a place of wisdom, vindication, and peace with the events of one's path through life, and ultimately with death. Whatever we have done, this is a greatness any person of substance would aspire to. This speaks to the soul and is a moving catalyst for introspection. It is a moment of beauty in sadness...
I'm glad that I wasn't the only one to notice that this was not the version played in America... I've never seen this extended version... Which is AMAZING!!!
Every Ragnar moment is so powerful, yet this one stands a step above the rest. It really ties everything together, his journey, struggle for meaning, and who he was at heart all in under 4 minutes.
All the battles, all the leadership, all the trips, all the knowledge comes to this point......to this conclusion....take into account the music, the acting and all the rest , the result is one of the most powerfull scenes of the cinema history....just perfect!
I love how much Ragnar cares about Lagertha. His angry example against the gods is his ex wife losing her child. He could have tons of different examples but was sad that lagertha couldn’t keep her child. He always wanted her happy.
I've never seen this scene because in Italy the part when Ragnar talks about Lagertha was deleted. The way he loves her is incredible. The power that this scene has, the words that he says to the seer are unforgettable. Vikings in my 💖.
Ragnar is by far and away the best character ever in any show ive ever seen in the episodes after he died I missed him like you miss family or an old friend. . This show is so deep and makes you really think about things within your own life too . .Travis fimmel your an absolute diamond and you played this part to perfection 👌
One of the strongest and most meaningful speeches in TV shows... Such a pleasure to see someone being so intelligent to determine his own fate. Ngl this is definitely the most iconic scene in Vikings!
I have walked among the lowest of the dead, and I have groped for meaning And I may have been wrong "What did you say?!" Brilliant scene, top notch writing and acting.
I'm an Atheist, but i also tend to have an existential crisis every now and then. Life to me is strange, the very existence of anything in the universe is strange, sometimes i think to myself it would be nice if a higher being existed so that i wouldn't have so many questions. Rewatching Ragnars scene has really made me question fate, i like to think my life isn't fated, but who is to say that i only have the illusion of controlling my own fate.
@@aradhyamaithil1486 Throughout the history man created God's in order to justify things they could not explain and understand, every big ancient religion in different regions had Gods that symbolized their fears, Ra being the God of Sun in Egypt, Thor the God of thunder in Norse mythology and so on, they couldn't understand natural disasters and occurrences that happened so they assumed it was the doing of someone more powerfull, they feared and cherished thinks they had no control over, later that evolved in to today's religions which are again based abaut fiction and fear. Christians pray so they can enjoy affter life because they belive this life is nothing but torture and bla bla bla...it's all to control others and justify your sins.
Travis Fimmel does such a great job portraying Ragnar. He acts as if tho Ragnar ALWAYS knew what to say, when to say it, what to do and when to do it. And the only people really catching him by surprise or off guard is The Seer and Rollo. The Seer in this scene, and Rollo when Ragnar truly realizes that his own brother betrayed him. May Travis and Ragnar always enjoy the company of Odin.
The sadness in his voice when he speaks about Lagertha is the reason why I watched this video like 20 times now. I love how this entire prophecy and the way it ended is so open to an interpretation. 1. We could say he died atheist and that seer was wrong because the blind man saw him day before his death. 2. We could say he just hated the god/s, by the way he speaks about them. He wants to truly believe he wasn't a pawn but rather someone who did as saw fit and thus guided his own fate. He also seems disappointed when Seer says he may have been wrong, as if the fact that Seer may have been wrong and thus gods do not exist broke Ragnar. 3. Someone says that blind men is clearly Ecbert. I think it as well, although it contradicts in the next scene when Ecbert gives go ahead for preparations against the Vikings. I think he saw more in Ragnar than Ragnar saw in him and he doesn't know Ragnar wanted him dead also. Plus, who would travel that far for someone they didn't consider a friend? So maybe Ecbert is the 'blind man' who believes in friendship with Ragnar even though Ragnar has had his own plans. Their eyes lock and only then does Ragnar speak. 4. The fact that he speaks about their Viking paradise may be two fold. He either says it so it is 'remembered' and only him and Ecbert knows he doesn't mean it, or he realises that the Seer was right when he sees Ecbert. He realises that the king Ecbert is really the blind man and then maybe tries to redeem himself. Seer also says that he saw Ragnar and he seemed happy. But who knows? I don't. This is exactly why this scene remained in my mind since I saw it. It is very powerful, asks so many questions and really there are no real answers for them. Also, really great acting :)
But if King Ecbert is the blind man, then he already was the blind man, he is the blind man in the moment that Ragnar lies to him ( when he says that he would tell to ivar that king ella is the bad guy)... sooo, king ecbert is already "blind" and he sees Ragnar, but ragnar didn't die that day... he sees ragnar multiple times before ragnar dies and when ragnar dies... and because of that i do not think that ecbert is the blind man
I think Ragnar was right about the idea of prophecies that it has no exact interpretation but many interpretations. So it doesn’t cause comfort but instead causes confusion. Example is the phrase” you will die the day the blind man sees”. 1.blind man could have just been the blind guy in front of Ragnar. 2.the blind man could have been the seer when he sees that the gods actually aren’t a real thing. 3. Blind man could have been Ragnar when he realised that god/gods don’t exist.and that it’s just human nature to make up stories about gods/god to give them simple answers that they could have found themselves. 4.the blind man could have also been ecbert when he realised that god isn’t actually a real thing. But the problem with these is that neither of them actually happen on the day that Ragnar dies. They happen before so the seer was wrong but the directors had to just put that uncertainty vibe to it in order to keep the audience thinking. People get chills of enjoyment and curiosity when you leave that uncertainty vibe.
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Things i like to watch at 3am before i go to sleep
Exactly what I’m doing rn
@@coltonroach3862 same lmao
I can relate to that too
Its 4:50 rn for me
Close, its 2 44 here
Ragnar's pain when he's talking about Lagertha though... after all these years, his love for her was still there.
The thing is, he destroyed his family because of the Seer's prophecies as well. Now that he is disillusioned, he puts the blame on the Seer for his choices.
@@subutaynoyan5372 He took responsibility and didn't complain, lived with his decision, he puts blame on believing in the gods instead of doing what is reasonable, trusting in oneself
@@Amleth89 Ragnar never complained. He just thinks he was manipulated by his faith and could've been a better man without it.
You seen it when she lost her baby. She told Bjorn and Ragnar to leave her alone, they just scooted back and was right there for her. Thats love
M Bayrak I just wanna know how the seer lied to him , I keep seeing people saying that
Very powerful scene. Ragnar's ability to think critically and question everything really sets his apart from the other Vikings. I think that's why among his people he was, for the most part, lonely. Ecbert was probably his only intellectual equal.
Nikolay Ivanov Ye but ecbert used his intellect to his own benefit Ragnar wanted to teach everyone his knowledge
As well as Athelstan
"Odin gave his eye for knowledge... But I would give far more."- Ragnar Lothbrok
@@georgeholbrook843 Ragnar never wanted to teach anyone. He just wanted to explore.
@@misterwabbit4690 not true at all he wanted to farm
The writers of the show gave Travis Fimmel a phenomenal script here, and he executed it masterfully. This is one of the best scenes in the entire series...
they presented him with a destiny, but he manifested it
@@KingslayerSrb but what if it wasn’t?
@@Xpert_Aliwhat if it was
you may be right, i may have been wrong@@JiskaStorm
True and I really liked the white horde scene. It had something emotional ragnar sees Everyone where hè thinks about. Even atlesthan in the back of his mind
"I don't believe in the gods existence. man is the master of his own fate, not the gods. the gods are man's creation to give answers, that they are too afraid to give themselves" Sent chills down my spine!!
Well man isn't master of his fate. Your choices are bound by natural and human forces
I remember when I was 14, too :^)
@@_so1ius what that has to do with what we are talking about?
Those words are nothing but true...
But we cant give our answers( like who create us) so we invent God or other gods like Odin to belive in
This is by far the best scene of the show. What a speech !
I watched it more than 30 times and I still keep watching it.
Xeax95 I thought i was the only person.
adding me too guys i watched 100 times
I often come back to watch this scene.. very powerfull 🤘
Xeax95 q
What about the scene after being defeated in Paris when he talks about why he became Earld and then King? That's so very good too
"The man is the master of his own fate, not the gods. The gods are man's creation to give answers that they are to afraid to give themselves."
metal elitist almost.
Truer words has never been spoken
this speech made me think a lot that what if gods dont exist
Imagine his reaction when he get in Valhalla 😂😂😂
hehehehehe lol.
"You presented her a destiny, and she manifested it." That is just so true, we follow words of others and create those words into our lives, when they can be so wrong but we believe them. So we do everything possible to make them true. Ragnar last scenes are the most wise ones, love it.
So true, when he was imprisoned they had some of the most intelligent dialogues with King Ecbert...I suppose when he stopped to fight we got a chance to see his wisdom.😊
To simply say, that is law of attraction.
@@senpaikz6900 that's actually another way of explaining it very well
Smart man
Lol. It’s not true . “She was never going to have a child” his prophecy came to pass regardless , she could have as well stayed at home and had a miscarriage 😂. We are fated , believe it or not
Now that the show is completed, I can say that this scene is the best scene in the entire series and has so much meaning. Ragnar was always the one to push the boundaries of battle, Religion and thought. He was something special.
I agree that this scene is amazing. But for me the best scene is when Ragnar and Ecbert get drunk and talk about religion and honor, and ramble on like friends, because they may have both been the closest either of them have ever been to being understood.
So did Ecbert. The only true equal of Ragnar
I think Rollo wasnt to far behind in wisdom. He seen how the Christians were encroaching in all directions. Frankie, North Saxony, Kievan Rus, Novgorod. He played it well turning over to the West Frankish, became more powerful than anyone else in the show and the real Rollos bloodline now sits on the throne of England
I hate shows that idolize bloodthirsty murderers. Vikings shouldn't exist.
Anybody in 2024 and still here?
It's a tradition to come here once a while
@@VirginKillerSweaterAgreed
I memorized this by heart
This and Bjorn.. I just can’t stop coming back to. I just wish there was another show like this. The last kingdom was also decent, but I need more viking fix! Any suggestions welcome 🙏🏻
@@VirginKillerSweaterthat’s for sure
I reckon this is the most powerful scene in the whole series. After having a lot of conflict with belief in the Viking gods or Christian god, knowing that the seer was wrong about his death, Ragnar knows that he is just a man who guided his own destiny and not some higher being/s, which in the end, gave him the closure he needed.
but this is where it seems odd to me about walhalla or heaven, odin or a christian god. the ravens indicate that there is a vikings death so that means they are with odin right?, after ragnar died in the snakepitt later his sons seen the ravens and get a visit from odin......but did Ragnar not let himself been baptised and said cause when I die i want to see my friend Athelstan again. So this is odd to me is he with odin or is he with the christian god with Athelstan?
Harry DeRemmit The baptising was all a play to pull the wool over the eyes of both the Parisians and his own camp so he could successfully act out his ingenious way of entering the city of Paris. His feelings for Athelstan had always been true. Maybe he also felt that being baptised would be something Athelstan would of loved seeing and was also doing it to show his love for him and to sort of honour him as well.
yes come to think of it when he said goodbye to athelstan where he made this cross he said talked to the grave and said they will not se eachother again. And had someone els point out the same thing you just said and thank you for the answer i learned something new, sometimes the excitement of the show makes you misses the small details
i had one episode wich was so much excitement that in the end i was like wait what....what just happend, i litterly had to watch it again to understand more
Harry DeRemmit Haha there's no need to apologise my friend. It's quite an amazing show.
Ragnar himself is a revolution. He is the first one to focus on the West. He is the first one who tried to understand other culture and religion. He is the first one to question the existence of the gods. He trully did a lot for his people, but at the end he didn't want anything as a reward. Ragnar Lothbrok is a typical person for the Renaissance era. He values the human life and all his personalities are very revolutionary. But he showed up too early for his era and his people don't have the required mindset to understand him.
i think the word you may wanted to use was revolutionary/visionary. but either k
and what you are a purist historian?
L Y R I L L Thank you for the correction!
Yes, yes, I know that this is historical fiction. But I am just amazed by the personality of the character Ragnar within the series. (I haven't read the original sagas about Ragnar) I just decided to share my opinion about his personality and experience.
Yeah well I thought it was obvious that the people watching this show aren't expecting a documentary when they do so you idiot. Anyone who watches this and thinks "oh my god the writers are trying to mislead people. this isn't accurate at all, i have to make sure they know the truth" doesn't even deserve to own a tv in the first place. When did the producers or writers or anyone in an executive position for the show ever claim the events that happen in it are true or an accurate representation of what happened. Matter of fact when have they ever really claimed it's anything more than just "based" off of the viking era? Ok so what the channel is called "History" I can't imagine any person with anything more than a below average iq watching the show, seeing the production value and think "wow all this stuff really happened?" Dude even if someone WANTED to fucking make a show that's a realistic portrayal of all the characters and events, etc. based only on things actually recorded they wouldnt even get past like a season or two. There's barely anything recorded about the Vikings because their communication was almost 100% oral-based so the only things we even have written down are from accounts by Englishmen or people that they raided, and don't forget it was probably not even common for English citizens to know how to write so only a small percentage of the societies even could record the events down. Imagine Aethelwulf writing about Ragnar's life story? What realism could you expect from that? I mean no wonder there is only legends of Ragnar and people don't even think he existed because there was probably no way anyone could learn to write in Viking lands besides only one-off scenario's where they learn it as a special skill, that no one else can do from someone who only would teach that person and not others. So how the hell are people saying shit like "This is unrealistic", and "Ragnar wasn't like this". You do realize that the best they can do is literally just make it seem believable enough for that era right? It's not like English or American history where they can go through journals day by day and discern every event that took place. I have no idea what you thought it would be like but dont fucking watch TV and expect to get accurate facts unless the program you are watching literally says "This is a fact". Never did Vikings claim it was entirely true or that the events in the show actually took place. How are you going to be outraged at a show that literally had the Pagan god "Odin" come to earth and speak with Ragnar's sons through a mind-link that makes him invisible to everyone else except them, and say it is not "accurate enough" or is too "unrealistic". WELL NO SHIT SHERLOCK DID YOU REALLY START WATCHING IT FOR ITS REALISM, OR AUTHENTICITY? It's like someone watching the TV show Merlin and saying "It's not factual" when it has fucking talking dragons and magic.
The most epic scene i've ever seen in my life..
Fayçal Mansouri Then you've seen pretty few epic scenes lol. Don't get me i think this scene is epic too but to say that it's the best one ever, hell no
Oh please...😂😂
@@movez8223 Tell me a realty based scene that's deeper than this?
@@patrichewill5403 Tell me a realty based scene that's deeper than this?
@Eternal Wanderer Tell me???
This is possibly one of the best scene's in television history.
The acting, the music, the dialogue, the scenery.
I don't think there is a single thing done wrong here.
Yes, but it will never be in some videos for top 10 this and that... And i dunno whyy
@@markomaksic1048 who gives a fuck
We don't need lists or any shit like this
This scene is a pure masterpiece
its an epic scene indeed,but im sorry nothing can top Red wedding
@@arthasmenethil7208 I said possible for a reason. But it is up there. I can't fault the scene at all.
@@mohamedkhider6998 well, yeah :"D
"You may be right Ragnar Lothbrok
for I am only the Seer
I have walked amongst the lowest
Of the dead
and I have groped for meaning
And I could have been wrong"
That is without a doubt the best moment for me
I searched the comments for these words...
Ragnar beat him, Ragnar made him say that.
Wht does this mean ?
@@indianslave1547 no bullshitery... He was being honest. He admited he was wrong. He didn't predict his destiny. He. 😂
I can't expres what i want to say, english is nkt my mother language 😂
The thing that is so great about this scene is that it feels Ragnar grows quieter and quieter as the series progresses, from season 1 to 4 he speaks less and less as he becomes more spiritual and reserved, he becomes wiser, thinking more rather then speaking. This is one of the few times it feels he says exactly what's on his mind, it is acted amazingly to allow the viewers to pick up on this. He lets it all out in this scene, it feels like the crescendo of the entire show and Ragnar's character as a whole, accompanied with a soundtrack that fits perfectly for an atheist man coming to terms with a sad but beautiful realisation of death, truely magnificent.
Very good assessment, especially the point about him growing quieter - its definitely evident when you look back on it and you feel his tensions and internal battles build up to this point.
That being said - i felt he was still at war with himself for he still didn't know what to believe. He questions why things, why would gods do, reasoning, which god to believe. He is a man of questions and he looks for answers and doesn't want to just sit back and accept things- maybe his lack of clear answers here led him to almost resenting the gods and questioning there existence.
Its such a great work in that it can be interpreted in so many ways. I found it hard to put into words, even as i do so i cannot really express all the mixed thoughts/emotions it invokes.
You put it into words...thank you for that.
it was because he got on them drugs
This is when I lost internet in the show. I never cared about the series after Ragnar Lothbrok's saga came to an end.
I disagree that Ragnar ended up with an atheistic philosophy - atheism doesn't just deny god/gods, it denies all divinity. Ragnar's was a Promethean philosophy, where he, instead of devotion to them, rose to meet the gods in their understanding. He followed Odin by becoming an embodiment of his quest for wisdom.
He loved lagertha more then anyone
Lagertha loved him more than anyone
@@pvaldespino She loved him so much that she repeatedly spread her legs for his brother and passes their offspring off as Ragnar's without so much as telling him. Yes, true love!
Straight White Male we don’t know if that happened, and really it was just bad writing, nothing previously suggested that was the case. Also Ragnar cheated
@@godofnothing428 Ragnar likely only cheated because he knew she was a hypocritical bitch. Who was she to talk?
They are together now.
favorite scene of all...so deep
and so sad too ! :'|
Camille Labrecque very much so - incredible writing and accompanying musical score.
hell yeah
Quand ça va pas, 2-3 écoutes et on est repartis sur les rails
Mahmoud dahma المسيح اادجال
Ragnar truly loved Lagartha... Even when facing his death he is defending her and wishing good for her... Such a man! Rough but gentle, deceptive but truthful, kind but doesn’t take other things for granted, good but a little bit bad... He’s a balanced man and understands everything! Vikings is my best show 👏
but lagartha loved him back.... 😢 the deserved eachother. 👏 fuck queen aslaug
Man, this series honestly died with Ragnar Lothbrok
Advait Bhave. But having largetha and bjorn in the other seasons Was more calming because they kept us reminded of Ragnar.
@@Philosophical_engineer I beg to differ. Ivar and Ubbe should have been the ones in charge. Bjorn and Lagertha both seriously overstayed their welcome. It's honestly why I stopped watching the show. Bjorn and Lagertha stopped being interesting. The writers gave them more stuff to do, new relationships, but I didn't care anymore. Ivar and Ubbe were breaths of fresh air, inheriting different aspects of Ragnar's legacy and they were played by brilliant actors. And yet, they were either turned into a villain or they were sidelined to play second fiddle to whatever wacky BS Michael Hirst decided to make up. The idea of Ubbe training King Alfred how to fight, for example. Such a laughably bad idea which flies in the face of historical facts about those two men.
I didn't mean to go on a rant but I'm still angry about how badly this show nosedived when it should have soared to new heights with Ivar and Ubbe leading the Great Heathen Army to conquer England as a team.
@@Lamporre They also wasted Bishop Headmund's character imo. I did like seeing Bjorn conflicted in the last season about the decisions he has to make as a King. But the last season was too short.
The mistake of overusing a very charismatic character in a story. Michael Hirst made this whole thing a Ragnar driven story. And he completely blundered when he was supposed to follow up with a second generation.
I love Katheryn Winnick, and loved Lagertha in first three seasons most of the time, but her not dying, and the show focusing on a family drama more than a true Nordic saga just killed the show.
Because let's face it, Lagertha, Floki, Athelstan, Rollo or even Ecbert were all Ragnar based characters. Each of their stories were tied to Ragnar's actions. None of them(Save for Ecbert) had the wit, sharm or cunning of Ragnar.
What the show was supposed to do, was to kill off the first generation with proper stories, turn Björn into an heir apparent who despite his best efforts, is not his father, and create a new arc between 5 brothers and the English.
Instead, they just kept Lagertha in the centre with no justification whatsoever, never properly killing her off nor keeping her a proper character.
I knew the show had no way of getting back on its feet, when Heahmund died whilst Lagertha who had no more story just lingered.
M Bayrak Floki was in a very interesting position when he got to train Ivar and mentor him like a second child after losing his own. And even Iceland could have been interesting because that’s what he historically did. But besides that, I agree with the comments here that Bjorn and Lagertha shouldn’t have become the stars after Ragnar died. It should have been Ivar and Ubbe. They were the most interesting of Ragnar’s sons, no matter how hard you try to push Bjorn onto us. He could have teamed up with Sigurd to oppose Ubbe and Ivar, but making Bjorn the obvious heir who can do no wrong is where Hirst failed to make Bjorn interesting.
He even beat the seer...he beat everyone!
So did ivar!
Henrik Dahlberg Yes but ivar on his brutally and childish way, Ivar is scumbag who has no patience, Ragnar is a genius.
@@wreckitking yes i too was very disappointed with how ivar turned out. ragnar chose him and believed in him because of his tactical mindset and unpredictability, which then showed when he would give his ideas to the rest of the brothers in battles and actually come out victorious. he had the potential to be another ragnar. Ragnar said everyone will come to fear ivar, but i dont think he wanted it to be this way. the character had so much potential! but just sunk into brutal madness...
it does make sense though, it does match how he has been portrayed the entire movie, there has been darkness looming around ivar's character since he was a child.. still i hoped it wouldnt have sunk that deep into darkness and instead had some more adventure/exploration/tactics portrayed through his character. i is dissapoints..
Peter Louis his anger and immature actions were his missing childhood and no time to grow up instead sitting down for 20 years
@@wreckitking wait there is going to be another season?
All this time Ragnar and the other Vikings looked to the seer for guidance and now finally Ragnar questions him, what a scene, didn't know there was an extended version until now, thanks for the upload!
@tsikou aniphandis It seems odd to me about walhalla or heaven, odin or a christian god. The ravens indicate that there is a vikings death during a battle or such, so that means they are with odin right?, after ragnar died in the snakepitt later his sons seen the ravens and get a visit from odin......But did Ragnar not let himself been baptised and said cause when I die i want to see my friend Athelstan again. So this is odd to me is he with odin or is he with the christian god where Athelstan is?
Ragnar is a non-believer. He doesn't believe in gods, whether the christian, nor the vikings gods. Like he said, the religions were created by the people to give answers in a time (middle-age), where poverty and undistinguished education dominated.
well actually Odin is his god cause he is in walhalla now so it seems accoarding to the seer
the seer predicted that he would die the day when the blind man sees him but the blind man who see him says that it would be at least 1 more day until his execution that is why Ragnar smiles at the seer
The Seer states that Ragnar wants it to be true, so it is. The blind man being referred to is none other than King Ecbert.
Ecbert thinks they are friends, but Ragnar does not consider him one. he wants his demise. Ecbert however feels guilty for sending a friend to death, so much so that he walks all the way to the scene where Ragnar will die so that he can watch a "friend" in his final moments. As soon as Ecbert makes eye contact with Ragnar, Ragnar gives his speech, and is then dropped into the snake pit. Ecbert was the blind man who saw him, not the blind man who claimed to see him.
“But what it wasn’t?”
“But what if it was...”.
Those two lines alone are extremely powerful
deep.
It sums up the problem with the world, in one 2 second exchange
Totally agree!! ❤️
Can someone please explain?
@@nenadsubotic9507 Basically its a stalemate, the seer is defiantly firm in his stance the Norse pantheon does indeed exist while still acknowledging that neither of them can truly prove it with certainly. Yet Ragnar on the other hand is more on the midline not knowing what is really or not. This subtly show by him not challenging the Seers assertion.
"the gods are man's creation to give answers that they are too afraid to give themselves'' wow man, this gave me chills. This scene is pretty much the most powerful i've seen in television drama.
Some people watch series but don't understand a things
@different6620 Finally, someone who understands Ragnar doesn't believe in any religion. Which he clearly stated to King Ecbert and in this scene. I don't get how some people's brains can't grasp that concept.
@Aidan_H4 yet he said he was going to Valhalla,Odin preparing a feast and valkyries Yadda Yadda, isn't that an after life,? Isn't that a god? Isn't that a religion? Make it make sense.
@@majintoguro4952 That speech was for the gathered English. Not himself.
@@majintoguro4952 That was to strike fear in the English and inspire his son. Religion is a tool and Ragnar understands that.
I still come back to this and everytime I realize that ragnar is still and will always be the Goat
love how in this he talks to the seer about Lagertha. Not himself or his sons.
Exactly, he couldve easily blamed the stupid decisions he made regarding cheating on lagertha and going to kill ivar and alot more on the seers prophecys. But like how he described the gods as a tool to relinquish man of responsibility he cannot fall into that trap and contradict himself. He takes responsibility of all his wrongs and shows his love for lagertha instead finally getting closure
“Ahhh the riddles you speak they have no real meaning your words can be interpreted in so many ways that they cease to cause comfort or knowledge but rather confusion”. Never read too much into what someone else is saying as human beings we’ve always cared about what other people have to say that we structure our lives around it the way we think, talk, dress , act and even speak Ragnar showed it was possible that even after many trials and tribulations you can stay true to yourself and what you stand for and most importantly that you control your fate and you should always be yourself that’s why I’m grateful we were blessed with this intellectual character.
so true
Your comments though. Am glad.
This is easily the best scene in the hole series. The way that Ragnar speaks here, the way he controls the conversation in a way that he have never done before. He always thinks before he talks but this is the only scene that he really just relieve all the anger from his heart. It gets to me every time and I will always come back here to watch this masterpiece.
Lol nah it was just 2 many of em great show
The show it about vikings. Not holes.
Series was too hit and miss. When it was good it was great but when it was bad it was awful. Very inconsistent and only gets worse after this scene
Just noticed that ragnar after he accepts his death he still thinks of lagertha and her baby, the baby that she got from another man. Shows how much he cared for her.
When the blind man says "I can see you" , it perfectly contrasts as a paradigm of The Seer's prophecy but also in the perspective that the seer was wrong and that Ragnar helped him see the truth as he has 'groped for meaning'
This scene gave me goosebumps. So apt even in today's world.
This is why I became an Atheist.
I truly miss the Ragnar character when watching Vikings now. Such a great series, especially in the early days when Ragnar, Rollo and Floki were just simple Vikings.
I love the seers willingness to confide that “you may be right” that the gods are man’s creation to give answers that they are afraid to give themselves. “I am only the seer. I have walked among the lost and the dead, and I have groped for meaning.” Two men having cosmological and philosophical turmoil. The seer sees that Ragnar may be right, but also rightly admits he has only been pursuing the truth in a sort of study to understand humans and the natural world. The seer proves religious thinking can be observationally similar to science. Reflection on the nature of reality has led both of these men to different, but equally distraught places. So much to pull from this scene.
He asked when will we reach King alle, then when he heard not until tomorrow he smiled. The seer said he will die the day the blind man sees him. But instead dies later. So he has proved him wrong
@Ronaldjump if you believe something it is true to you, even if it is wrong
i love this scene... and i didnt relize that until i watched it agai
@Ymir Otsutsuki how?
@Ymir Otsutsuki no it isn’t. That’s literally the whole point of this scene lmao. That prophecies are confusing and because they can be interpreted in so many ways they can always find a way to see it as true when it isn’t. He was prophecied to die on the day the blind man saw him. A literal blind man told him he literally saw him and her you guys have to come up with some “Ecbert was blind to Ragnar” bs which is obviously dumb if you think about it for 10 seconds lol
@@thrillainthemanilla1409 it isn’t dumb,
Ecbert was “blinded” as in he believed in what Ragnar told him that his sons will only seek revenge after aelle and spare ecbert. Ecbert believing that Ragnar was his friend, actually believed him.
And it turns out, Ragnar fooled him and his sons took revenge on both him and aelle.
Nearly 2019, and I’m still coming every now and then to listen to this speech.
SO POWERFUL!
yeah same do i sadly every moment of viking is carved in my heart
2020
@@Xhellfiire quite a year huh?
2022
2023
Almost 2021 who is still watching this scene every day?
One of the most powerful scenes ive seen in my lifetime, hail Ragnar!
It is now 2021 and i am still watching this ✌🏽
I'm Muslim and I still watch this scene lol
it is now 2024 and i am still watching this@@allthingseverything4606
This scene has a seperate fan base
Ikr
Tbh I'm a Muslim
Of course this scene is legandary cuz for me ragnar dared to challenge the seer and he proved em wrong at the end
But for me i believe in an all powerful and almighty god
@@mohamedkhider6998 thanks for being so honest
@@mohamedkhider6998 That is so fucking sad to read. Why would you believe in such bullshit?
@@AbraGaming sad? Dude it’s his belief and it isn’t hurting you or anyone else, leave him believe. Everybody’s got something they believe.
@@imikal8046 Just because it's someone's belief or isn't hurting anyone doesn't make it not sad
“Don’t waste your time looking back, you are not going that way.”
- 👑 King Ragnar 👑
2:45 I've seen this show like five times already. And I just now realize that the moment Ragnar tells the Ancient one that he do not believe in the existence of gods, he smiles very subtly. As if Ragnar had suddenly discovered the secret of his own existence or at least the meaning of it. Very powerful.
Wrong.
I love the fact that when the seer confessed he may have been wrong, he parished from Ragnar's imagination, maybe all along the seer was just an imagination, yet so many people believed to him.
What if the seer realized something as well after this moment with Ragnar?
"Man is the master of his own fate! Not the gods. The gods are man's creation to give answers that they are too afraid to give themselves" This proves how smart Ragnar was, power and fame was always in his favour but his intelligence outmatched everyone
Do you realise this is a tv show?
+boskovicderesve Can't people analyze characters in tv shows? Writers would completely waste their time if people would not be allowed to analyze their meaning through the characters they portray in stories.
@@boskovicderesve some of the events are actually true. The fake death scene to enter paris was done by bjorn not by ragnar. The way ragnar was killed. Also other moments and events actually happened.
Well where did you think ivar got his brains from?
This whole scene is amazing but that line is my favourite and gives me chills.
After everything he still cares so much for Lagertha and how shell live, his voice is full of sorrow when he mentions her
I love how even when staring his inevitable death in the face, he still talks about lagertha
_unpopular opinion:_
*The series could have ended right here.*
Couldn't agree more.
I agree
The sheer amount of cunning, intelligence, and understanding we've seen Ragnar demonstrate from the first episode to the last always delights me.
After my spiritual awakening yesterday I can tell you: He's absolutely right.
Tell me more please
Not starting trouble, I just wanted to know. Thanks
This is without a doubt, one of the greatest scenes in television history imo. Words cannot describe how powerful and moving this scene is, Ragnar’s line about him choosing his fate is my favourite quote out of all TV and Cinema. Such an amazing character and an even better actor.
This is also one of the only shows I’ve ever seen where the main character dies and it gets BETTER.
"What if wasnt?"
"What if it was?"
My favourite dialogue ever
Funny how he didn't believe in the gods and yet because of his strong will and his accomplishments, Odin saw him worthy of entering his hall.
Every time when i feel low or demotivated i think about Ragnar.... This man is giving me motivation and strength ! HAIL KING RAGNAR !!!
This is the most powerful and best scene in Vikings. The acting, script, music, all so incredibly powerful and utterly subliminal. Like Ragnar, we should all choose our fate, what we do in life and how we die if we can. We shouldn't believe in the existence of "gods". We are the master of our own fate, "Gods" are man's creation to give us answers that we are too afraid to give ourselves. Never truer words spoken. We miss you Ragnar.
Well you dont know if those are true words or not, nothing cant prove gods or god exist or not exist so affirm such a thing is scientifically a very arrogant position
I love coming back to this video whenever I feel down. Gives me motivation and happiness
Am I the only one that watches this 2 times at least a day
i wached that,more than 10 times in a day 😂😂😂
10000000000000♾♾ a day 🙂
Two years ago I first saw this scene and stuck with me vividly. It is the most relatable and honest spiritual dialogue I have ever seen on screen; The raise of focus from the double questioning at 2:36, Ragnar's subtle realization at 2:54, the concluding viewpoint: "The Gods are men's creation to give answers that they are to afraid to give themself." and The Seer clearly appearing as Ragnar's own reflection/intuition/spirit when the blind man states he didn't say anything... They all kept floating somewhere in my mind ever since.
This was vikings... It's not the same without the seer, Ragnar, ecbert, all the religious themes and undertones.
Season 1-4 will always be the best
Season 6 episode 10 and 11 were amazing
Vikings is the best Serie i've watched, it have absolutely everything a Serie or a movie should have. It's not only a movie, it's a life lesson, but it also help people, it helped me. There's stuff i was unsure about, learned how much your life can be hurt and how much you can loose just by following your dream or one small desicion. Can't wait for another season!
Just now I understood what Ragnar was thinking when he asked the carrige driver about when they would reach King Alle. The Seer first told him that he would die on the day the blind man sees him, but this blind man tells him that they wouldn't reach Northumbria until the next day, that is what I believe triggered this conversation between Ragnar and the Seer.
This is one of the most powerful scenes in all of television
Almost July 2024 and still watching this epic scene.
This is one of the most powerful and underrated 3 minutes ever recorded in any type of production. Amateur or Professional...
"Man is the master of his own fate, not the gods. The gods are man's creation, to give answers that they are too afraid to give themselves." -King Ragnar Lothbrok
Ragnar's words made me see life in another way
Me too ... I started to question so many things
I seen this about 9 times and still i get goosebumps every time ragnar delivers the line about his disbelief in the gods existence
At the end the way the seer says "I have groped for meaning, and I may have been wrong." Really polishes this scene up. Powerful for sure.
"How the little piggies will grunt when they hear how the Old Boar suffered"
America explain
life changing moment for myself
The only thing that separates Ragnar from all other Vikings is that he questions and criticizes. Neither Ivar nor Rollo nor Bjorn has accomplished this as well as Ragnar. Ragnar was and will remain a living legend.
This scene deserves an Oscar!!! Perfectly executed that speech, the way that carrier changes into the seer, the way music hits, PERFECTLY SPLEDID
My favourite scene from Vikings just because despite how broken Ragnar had become he was still so wise and still saw things clearly before his end
Exactly. Nobody would follow alive Ragnar. And he knew his death will unite and make Vikings to follow him.
This is the best scene so far in Vikings, And a lot of things is been learn from it, I just cant stop listen to regnar and the seer. There words of wisdom and knowledge and the way them reason things is one in a million.
Man this scene...like besides all of the things this scene represents it also shows Ragnar talking alone with Death. Death wants you to be afraid of it, to submit to it, be teriffied of it and to put you on your knees. But Ragnar embraced it actually. He was not afraid. He won. He made his path and met death in his terms...with a smile on his face. He knew he won. Such a powerful scene.
Death where is your sting? 🤔
Great comment
I find it lovely that when the seer asks how his propheties are dangerous Ragnar doesn't mention that it led him to try to kill himself many time juste to prove the gods wrong. He directly talks about how Lagertha didn't have another child because of the irrationnal decision she took based on the seer's prophety. She was more important to him. Great writing.
“The Gods are man’s creation to give answers that they are too afraid, to give themselves.”
Well said.
Yup. Religion is just a way to make sense of what we don't understand. It probably caused more problems for mankind than anything else throughout history.
Man this actor is really good. Great acting, and a great speech.
Like others have said, this is my favourite and I think most powerful scene of the whole series. The music gives it the haunting immersion and captivation. This scene is truly art!
Ragnar is having a moment of complete clarity and eloquent coherence. What a beautiful state of mind with which to leave this world, in a place of wisdom, vindication, and peace with the events of one's path through life, and ultimately with death. Whatever we have done, this is a greatness any person of substance would aspire to. This speaks to the soul and is a moving catalyst for introspection. It is a moment of beauty in sadness...
This is one of the greatest scenes I've ever watched, and one of the greatest series.
I'm glad that I wasn't the only one to notice that this was not the version played in America... I've never seen this extended version... Which is AMAZING!!!
What a powerful statement he says there…”what if the Gods were created to provide answers man was too afraid to answer for themselves.”
The most important scene in vikings...
😢😢 His words...
Even now, years later, this is still so saddening
I`ve probably watched this scene 15 times already and I still get goosebumps.
Every Ragnar moment is so powerful, yet this one stands a step above the rest. It really ties everything together, his journey, struggle for meaning, and who he was at heart all in under 4 minutes.
All the battles, all the leadership, all the trips, all the knowledge comes to this point......to this conclusion....take into account the music, the acting and all the rest , the result is one of the most powerfull scenes of the cinema history....just perfect!
One of the Most Meaningful & powerful scence in the History of the television series!
I love how much Ragnar cares about Lagertha. His angry example against the gods is his ex wife losing her child. He could have tons of different examples but was sad that lagertha couldn’t keep her child. He always wanted her happy.
And she fucked him over by not being sure about Bjorn's father.
I've never seen this scene because in Italy the part when Ragnar talks about Lagertha was deleted.
The way he loves her is incredible.
The power that this scene has, the words that he says to the seer are unforgettable.
Vikings in my 💖.
I wonder why it was deleted.
I just saw this today imagine my shock!
Ragnar is by far and away the best character ever in any show ive ever seen in the episodes after he died I missed him like you miss family or an old friend. . This show is so deep and makes you really think about things within your own life too . .Travis fimmel your an absolute diamond and you played this part to perfection 👌
One of the strongest and most meaningful speeches in TV shows... Such a pleasure to see someone being so intelligent to determine his own fate. Ngl this is definitely the most iconic scene in Vikings!
I have walked among the lowest of the dead, and I have groped for meaning
And I may have been wrong
"What did you say?!"
Brilliant scene, top notch writing and acting.
Dad 😢😢😢😢😢
"maybe she would be the proud mother of a healthy child"
Bjorn: Do I look unhealthy to you?
My favorite scene in any movie or show ever.
Agreed 💯
This show turned out to be a bit of a masterpiece.
And then it turned to shit like another Walking Dead.
I'm an Atheist, but i also tend to have an existential crisis every now and then. Life to me is strange, the very existence of anything in the universe is strange, sometimes i think to myself it would be nice if a higher being existed so that i wouldn't have so many questions. Rewatching Ragnars scene has really made me question fate, i like to think my life isn't fated, but who is to say that i only have the illusion of controlling my own fate.
Even without god, free will is an illusion
Man is the master of his own fate! Not the gods. The gods are man's creation to give answers that they are too afraid to give themselves
hmongguyful can you please explain me the meaning of this line. Please
@@aradhyamaithil1486 Throughout the history man created God's in order to justify things they could not explain and understand, every big ancient religion in different regions had Gods that symbolized their fears, Ra being the God of Sun in Egypt, Thor the God of thunder in Norse mythology and so on, they couldn't understand natural disasters and occurrences that happened so they assumed it was the doing of someone more powerfull, they feared and cherished thinks they had no control over, later that evolved in to today's religions which are again based abaut fiction and fear. Christians pray so they can enjoy affter life because they belive this life is nothing but torture and bla bla bla...it's all to control others and justify your sins.
@@CyberHeat548 brother Thanks alot 😄✌️
@@CyberHeat548 but yet he still embraced those God's.
@@CyberHeat548 You believe that, so it is true, to you...
Such a powerful emotional scene, Ragnar was the most legendary character of all Vikings.
Best scene in a tv show I’ve ever watched
Travis Fimmel does such a great job portraying Ragnar. He acts as if tho Ragnar ALWAYS knew what to say, when to say it, what to do and when to do it. And the only people really catching him by surprise or off guard is The Seer and Rollo. The Seer in this scene, and Rollo when Ragnar truly realizes that his own brother betrayed him. May Travis and Ragnar always enjoy the company of Odin.
Ragnar and Ecbert, 2 men years ahead of their time. They lived in a wrong Era.
U reckon ecbert?
Man is the master of his own fate, not the gods. The gods are man's creation to give answers they cannot give themselves.
The sadness in his voice when he speaks about Lagertha is the reason why I watched this video like 20 times now. I love how this entire prophecy and the way it ended is so open to an interpretation.
1. We could say he died atheist and that seer was wrong because the blind man saw him day before his death.
2. We could say he just hated the god/s, by the way he speaks about them. He wants to truly believe he wasn't a pawn but rather someone who did as saw fit and thus guided his own fate. He also seems disappointed when Seer says he may have been wrong, as if the fact that Seer may have been wrong and thus gods do not exist broke Ragnar.
3. Someone says that blind men is clearly Ecbert. I think it as well, although it contradicts in the next scene when Ecbert gives go ahead for preparations against the Vikings. I think he saw more in Ragnar than Ragnar saw in him and he doesn't know Ragnar wanted him dead also. Plus, who would travel that far for someone they didn't consider a friend? So maybe Ecbert is the 'blind man' who believes in friendship with Ragnar even though Ragnar has had his own plans. Their eyes lock and only then does Ragnar speak.
4. The fact that he speaks about their Viking paradise may be two fold. He either says it so it is 'remembered' and only him and Ecbert knows he doesn't mean it, or he realises that the Seer was right when he sees Ecbert. He realises that the king Ecbert is really the blind man and then maybe tries to redeem himself. Seer also says that he saw Ragnar and he seemed happy. But who knows? I don't.
This is exactly why this scene remained in my mind since I saw it. It is very powerful, asks so many questions and really there are no real answers for them. Also, really great acting :)
Jay Polomsky I think Ragnar was more of an agnostic man, not atheist.
Jay Polomsky So many questions with no real answers. That's the life story of curious people. Deep.
But if King Ecbert is the blind man, then he already was the blind man, he is the blind man in the moment that Ragnar lies to him ( when he says that he would tell to ivar that king ella is the bad guy)... sooo, king ecbert is already "blind" and he sees Ragnar, but ragnar didn't die that day... he sees ragnar multiple times before ragnar dies and when ragnar dies... and because of that i do not think that ecbert is the blind man
@@flavioandressotomillar1642 I think what he meant by 'see' is that he only realised when Ragnar died that he was fooled
I think Ragnar was right about the idea of prophecies that it has no exact interpretation but many interpretations. So it doesn’t cause comfort but instead causes confusion.
Example is the phrase” you will die the day the blind man sees”.
1.blind man could have just been the blind guy in front of Ragnar.
2.the blind man could have been the seer when he sees that the gods actually aren’t a real thing.
3. Blind man could have been Ragnar when he realised that god/gods don’t exist.and that it’s just human nature to make up stories about gods/god to give them simple answers that they could have found themselves.
4.the blind man could have also been ecbert when he realised that god isn’t actually a real thing.
But the problem with these is that neither of them actually happen on the day that Ragnar dies. They happen before so the seer was wrong but the directors had to just put that uncertainty vibe to it in order to keep the audience thinking.
People get chills of enjoyment and curiosity when you leave that uncertainty vibe.