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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2024

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  • @mrgrizzlyrides
    @mrgrizzlyrides Місяць тому

    Nice bike and very kind of Paul to loan it to you for a review on the channel.
    Enjoyed the ride; good weather too.
    I think its great that we as riders have a choice between two such great bikes; we pays our money as they say.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely Neil. Paul was really keen to let me out on his pride and joy 😎 Cheers

  • @crumblymal8479
    @crumblymal8479 Місяць тому +2

    Good one Ian this one is another nice bike and I reckon for me it would probably come down to something as simple as colour choice because there probably is not a huge difference in performance both look nice but the guerilla certainly has it on paintwork I reckon .When I was last in Appleyards looking at the Guerilla one of the guys in there was saying he had a customer who swapped in his Speed 400 for the Guerilla which in all probability tells you nothing more than they liked the looks better I guess but interesting though👌👍.Cheers

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Mal….I have heard of similar stories too 🤔. The Speed is a really nice bike, which does go well, and even at running in speeds, I could feel the potential, but it just didn’t grab me by the b***s like the Guerrilla did 😂

  • @chrisweeks6973
    @chrisweeks6973 Місяць тому

    G'day Ian, I think I'll have to try both when they get to my part of West Oz... 👍

  • @paulholmes1682
    @paulholmes1682 Місяць тому

    What a cracking bike and no surprise they are flying out the dealers, and my local Enfield dealer tells me, so is the Guerrilla. It will be interesting to see the official sales figures. I wish that Triumph had made an effort to include a centre-stand in the design, working on a bike without one is a nuisance. It's always a pleasure riding along with you Ian and may I add, also a pleasure to see you blip the throttle changing down the gears. I'm amazed at how many riders just crunch down the gears with a closed throttle. I spoke to a person who had recently undertaken the required training and passed their test and I was told that was how it's taught. Crunching down with no mechanical sympathy, most strange🤨 Thanks for your videos👍

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому

      Thanks Paul. I am having a bit of a surge of vids at the moment. Trying to cram them in, in some sort of order so they make sense (well at least to me, and hopefully to everyone else when the next one is released 😂). On the revving before changing down, there was a couple, invited to the Guerrilla launch, whose vids I couldn’t watch for that very reason…..it was cringeworthy 🫣. I have always been a “blipper” 😂. No centre stand would be a deal breaker for me……. 😉 I can’t wait to release the next one, mind you, I have to edit it first 😂

  • @ReRiderChi
    @ReRiderChi Місяць тому

    I appreciate your perspective & seeing something new. Am out semi-regular on my CL in the mountains.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Cheers. Good to know you are getting out and about. You deserve it 😎

  • @dezmondwhitney1208
    @dezmondwhitney1208 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this nice little run out. The Triumph seems to be a popular bike. Bike choice is highly subjective but if the RE Guerrilla is a bigger bike, just on that, I would choose at 6' tall.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Hi Dezmond, the Guerrilla has a lower seat height. The Triumphs have sold really well, time will tell how the Guerrilla’s get on. Cheers

  • @melfzs
    @melfzs Місяць тому

    I rode the speed 400 a while ago, I feel the Guerrilla has a more edgey hooligan feel to it when you in the mood! 😉

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Although I haven’t ridden a Speed fast, I did get the same feeling. The Guerrilla is a real naughty boy at heart 😈 Cheers

  • @glynntipper9354
    @glynntipper9354 Місяць тому

    I have now ridden the Speedd 400 and Guerilla I like both bikes but did find the Triumph less vibey
    , the thing that's swings it for me is the short serving intervals especially the valve check, which I should image to be quite costly, the Speed 400 has a 20000 mile valve check and a 600 mile first service then 10000 mile or yearly service, Triumph offered me a service package, I don't know if Royal Enfield do the same so serving is a monthly fee, great reviews Ian please keep up the great work some of the best o UA-cam.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Oh wow, thanks so much for the compliment. I try to be as honest as I can, and show the true emotions I feel when riding….obviously not scripted 😂. Yes, possibly the overall package from Triumph could sway it their way, but the Triumph just didn’t grab me like the Guerrilla has done, resulting in my adding a Guerrilla to the stable to join Clementine. So I guess that you are going with the Speed 400, I am sure you won’t be disappointed. Keep me informed 👍

    • @glynntipper9354
      @glynntipper9354 Місяць тому

      No Ian still not committed yet selling my 2007 Bonneville first, then going to play the local dealers against one another, we will see.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Ooo, have fun 🫣😉😂

  • @simonbowen6653
    @simonbowen6653 Місяць тому +1

    Two really good bikes. The Triumph is selling in big numbers, it'll be interesting to see if the guerilla makes a dent in them.

  • @Ainsworth-Rider
    @Ainsworth-Rider Місяць тому +1

    I see the heated gloves are out. it must be winter again 😊

  • @Ainsworth-Rider
    @Ainsworth-Rider Місяць тому +1

    I could see myself on one of these 👍

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Hadn’t you put a deposit on one when they first appeared ? You need to take one out 😉

    • @Ainsworth-Rider
      @Ainsworth-Rider Місяць тому

      @@ianhughesroyalenfield that good then 👍

  • @williambell12
    @williambell12 Місяць тому

    Yes, very good Ian. While you're in that Indian built single cylinder "zone", you should give the KTM 390 a spin. I rode one for a day. Totally nuts and fun. Wouldn't buy one though.
    Cheers from NZ

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks William, to be honest I haven’t a clue where the nearest KTM dealer is, either here or down in Cheshire. I will bear it in mind. Cheers.

    • @frankmarkovcijr5459
      @frankmarkovcijr5459 Місяць тому

      The local Harley dealer is giving a Triumph 400 away with every big Harley purchase​@@ianhughesroyalenfield

  • @derbyshireruralrider9398
    @derbyshireruralrider9398 Місяць тому

    A friend has one, his previous bike was an RE Classic 500 which he only owned for a short while and really likes the Triumph

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому

      Hi Andrew, it would definitely be a fair bit quicker than a Classic 500 😉 I think brand loyalty plays a part too.

    • @derbyshireruralrider9398
      @derbyshireruralrider9398 Місяць тому

      @@ianhughesroyalenfield prior to that he had scooters, most recent being Vespa GTS & Yam XMax, decided he wanted geared bike before he reached 70

  • @michaelgilbert3311
    @michaelgilbert3311 Місяць тому

    Nice ride out with you and Gordon? (Gorden Bennett, bloody bumpy roads.) Did i pick up that no centre stand is fitted? Looking at both bikes RE has the edge, but surely the Guerilla is more responsive ? 450CC VS 400CC. Anyway ill stay with my Hunter . Ride safe, BFN Mike, Sunny Wales

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому

      Hi Mike, yes me and Gordon do get on well…..it makes a change from using naughty words that UA-cam doesn’t like 😂. It will be interesting to ride the Speed once it is run in, but I still don’t think it will have the same effect as the Guerrilla had on me 😉. Cheerio, from a very warm and sunny Carnforth 🌞

    • @Biggus63
      @Biggus63 Місяць тому

      The Triumph is 15 kilos lighter, so I suspect there isn't a lot in it. The lack of a centre stand (and as I understand it, no provision for one either) is a bit of an oversight on the Triumph. If I were looking at these bikes that could tip the scales for me. It will be interesting to see if Triumph does later at least include the appropriate brackets to accommodate one.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому

      I agree, the lack of a centre stand is a bit daft. Cheers

  • @o00scorpion00o
    @o00scorpion00o 17 днів тому

    For me the deciding factor is the gorgeous analogue display in the triumph , I really don’t like the digital speedo on the Guerrilla, what were royal Enfield thinking ?

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  17 днів тому +1

      RE are thinking it’s high time they moved with the times. They still have plenty of models offering “old school” technology. Personally, I like it, it suits the style of the Guerrilla….thoroughly modern 👍

    • @o00scorpion00o
      @o00scorpion00o 17 днів тому

      @@ianhughesroyalenfield Modern isn't always good, look at all the tech they're shoving into cars these days , it used to be on the options list but it's good to have choice, though TFT screens are appearing on so many bikes today with no option.
      One of the best things with RE was the fact they stood out in design compared to many others.

  • @scask
    @scask Місяць тому

    I had almost back to back test rides on both the Guerrilla & 400 Scambler (plus Himalayan 450). The biggest issue was my inability to ride the Triumph in traffic smoothly very jerky at slow speed, I suspect some sort of throttle mapping issue which this bike didn't have. The Guerrilla was a joy to ride.
    Rather bizarrely the Triumph dealer had not heard of the Guerrilla! A rather odd lack of knowledge I thought.
    On a side note we travelled along that canal from Droitwich (towns ending with "witch" have a salt connection) in the summer on a narrowboat, fab chippy near the lock in Middlewitch.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому

      I have heard of some instances whereby the Speed 400 just cuts out for no apparent reason. Hopefully issues such as this will be fixed with an ecu remap. Ahh, canal days…..we lived aboard for 8 years, based on the Shropshire Union Arm near Church Minshull (go down the lock, and turn left)…happy times. Thank you

    • @scask
      @scask Місяць тому

      @@ianhughesroyalenfield Yes we were on our own boat doing the 4 counties ring... I've seen a few videos putting a 15 tooth front spocket on the 400's. I would be curious to see if that helped in lower gears...
      I do like the Triumphs looks but couldn't help thinking that if it had the Guerillas motor it could be a very special ride indeed.
      As for cutting out my 2003 Tiger 955 does it occasionally I used to get a bit stressed about it but if brand new bikes do it I think I'll chill out about it.. Ride safe.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +2

      Thank you. Ahh, well, as a boat owner you know that “feeling” 😊. We often wonder where our old vessels are ; so if you ever see……
      Rhoda May : 42ft semi trad
      Ben Truman no.4 : 62ft Trad Tug (Rushton Hornsby engine)
      Chardonnay : 50ft Trad
      Please lets us know where you spotted them.
      We did the 4 counties, fortunately with our friends on their boat, a brilliant trip. Audlem locks are always fun, as is Heartbreak Hill and Harecastle Tunnel, obviously plus other highlights.
      Back to bikes, I see the Guerrilla as a more substantial motorcycle than the speed 400, it is a few kgs heavier, but it just feels a better bike all round somehow. Anything cutting out wouldn’t be good for me, I just wouldn’t have any trust in it going forward, as it would play on my mind too much. Cheers

  • @robertcheatle2685
    @robertcheatle2685 24 дні тому

    Can you buy a centre stand from Triumph? I really find it strange that it does not come as standard. And what about a front mud guard extended as I can see mud & stones being flung up onto the engine & radiator. I like the Mechanical Analogue Speedo and the separate rear brake light on the Triumph, which are not present on the Guerrilla, which uses LED format, albeit with LED Needle for the Tacho and combined indicators with brake/rear light. The reason you are going for a 7th Gear is because of the low gearing on the Triumph. Some suggest that you change the front sprocket ratio to 16 to reduce the revving at high speed. I think that the Guerrilla has better lower down torque than Triumph. Thanks for the review.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  24 дні тому

      As far as I can see, there isn’t any provision for a centre stand, but most owners cope well enough with a paddock stand. I would think that someone would make a “fender extender”, if not already, it won’t be long. The clocks are nice on the Speed, though I also like the Guerrilla clock too. The rear lights on the Guerrilla are clearly visible, there are some vids on from when I was being followed on a ride out with fellow UA-camr’s, here is one from Birchwood Biker ua-cam.com/video/O0k-chDIohY/v-deo.htmlsi=IOvCy116N6W648yj Incidentally, I liked the Guerrilla so much, I bought one 😄

    • @robertcheatle2685
      @robertcheatle2685 24 дні тому

      @@ianhughesroyalenfield Thank you. Very helpful. The lack of a centre stand or ability to add one is silly. The full LED display may be an issue if you wear Polaroid sunglasses as this could lead to a black screen. I think that the Guerrilla has better lower down torque that results in quicker pick up at low & mid range speeds. Personally, I would prefer, in either Triumph or RE, to have a more classic style profile rather than the scramblesque style, but that is an aesthetic preference. Incidentally, when I was a young man most people would have been excited with a 40bhp bike, not questioning whether it had enough poke. How time & aspirations change. Thanks again for the feedback & the review.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  24 дні тому +1

      I agree, 40 ish bhp is more than enough to have fun. The Guerrilla is an absolute hoot to ride, but the Speed just didn’t do that for me. I wear reactolite Vario focal glasses, and even in full sunglasses mode on the Guerrilla, I have no problem seeing the dial. Dark mode isn’t as clear as auto (white in normal light). People are starting to fit 16 tooth sprockets on the Guerrilla, but I quite like the “naughty boy” throttle response. It’s not one to bimble on, far more exciting. Definitely a modern motorcycle, and very “un Royal Enfield “ like. I can see RE bringing out more variants with the 450 Sherpa engine, so really looking forward to see what they do. Thanks

  • @jonathanmellish4439
    @jonathanmellish4439 Місяць тому

    I hope you are well. I was waiting to see if you could get a ride on one of these to compare it against the Guerilla. I have tried the 400x and now the 450 Himalayan, and close up at the dealers the Guerilla looks great in the yellow. Arguably the Triumphs are a cleaner design and more pleasurable to look at, but i preferred the 450 to ride so would be my choice.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      I agree Jonathan ……but the Guerrilla also seems more grown up somehow. The Speed 400 is still a nice bike to ride though……😎. I prefer the Guerrilla to the Himi 450. Cheers

    • @equinox9
      @equinox9 28 днів тому

      There's just something a bit Mad Max about the Guerilla that I love...

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  28 днів тому +1

      Hell yeah 😎😂

  • @242garyp
    @242garyp Місяць тому

    Thanks Ian you compared it to the Guerrilla but I seem to recall, I think, you really liked the RE Hunter? How would you compare the Hunter to the Speed overall? Cheers.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      Hi Gary, I did indeed like the Hunter, but it’s hard to compare really. The Speed 400 is lighter than the Hunter, and more powerful…a lot more powerful. Think Hunter with nitros injection and a supercharger 😂. Seriously though, the Speed is a different animal to the Hunter. 20 hp on the Hunter, 39 hp on the Speed. Handling is very good on both. Brakes are better on the Speed. Price difference might swing it though £5195 for the speed, £3900 for the Hunter. I imagine servicing costs on the a Hunter would be cheaper too (only a guess). Hope this helps. Cheers

    • @242garyp
      @242garyp Місяць тому

      Thanks Ian keep the excellent vids coming 😎

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому

      @242garyp some crackers coming up 😉 Cheers

  • @Ainsworth-Rider
    @Ainsworth-Rider Місяць тому +1

    All I'm saying is lucky Paul 👍

    • @Ainsworth-Rider
      @Ainsworth-Rider Місяць тому

      Just wondering where my batteries are 🤔

  • @sgtgrash
    @sgtgrash Місяць тому

    My only complaint concerning the Speed 400 is that the switchgear looks cheap compared to the Guerrilla items. Other than that I think both bikes are excellent.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      I noticed the speed’s switchgear was quite chunky. I preferred the Speed’s info button, as not overly keen on the Guerrilla’s joystick. That said, it’s just something to get used to. Cheers

  • @martinowl
    @martinowl Місяць тому

    I don’t think owners of either this or the Guerrilla will be disappointed with their choice. Both look the part & seem to ride well. It could well come down to colour choice, proximity of a dealer or brand loyalty.

  • @markhodkinson9604
    @markhodkinson9604 Місяць тому

    waiting on the 2025 Speed 400 before I choose - colour ways bit bland on them at the mo & it looks smaller all round than the guerilla which has a bigger bike presence

  • @Paul-pb3vq
    @Paul-pb3vq Місяць тому

    Just found your Channel.
    Reading the comments on these bikes heard that some owners are having problems with engine cutting out.
    Took a demo bike out yesterday.
    And guess what coming up to a roundabout engine just died tried starting it, just cranked over so I turned the kill switch off then on again engine started.
    Went straight back to dealership and told them what happened, they said they haven't heard of the problems, but took the bike straight into the workshop.
    Not good. in my opinion.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +2

      Welcome Paul, nice to have you along 👍. I have heard that some people are/were having issues, which hopefully will get sorted. I know they shouldn’t be having any, but I think many brand new models of 2 or 4 wheels have had teething problems. It’s a bugger when the demo bike does it though 🫣😳

    • @Paul-pb3vq
      @Paul-pb3vq Місяць тому

      @@ianhughesroyalenfield
      Subscribed fella

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому

      Brilliant thank you, hope you will have a look through my back catalogue. Winter is coming, naff all on telly 😉😂

    • @OscardeDios
      @OscardeDios Місяць тому

      Hi Paul, I have this bike for three months and never happened to me the start problem you explain

    • @Paul-pb3vq
      @Paul-pb3vq Місяць тому

      @@OscardeDios
      Great to hear that.
      Enjoy

  • @MrVinnyh
    @MrVinnyh Місяць тому

    Nice bike, but after around 10 minutes into the video, I think the Enfield Gorilla might be be the better bike! Both Enfield & Triumph have managed to make a better job over the BSA Gold Star with the later bikes rad lookin it belongs to a Yank V8 car engine!! A friend in the Moto Guzzi Club has had one for around nearly a year now (He is in late 70's and needed something lighter, with no problems to report), The one main thing what I don't like is the stickers on the tank, for manual they look bloody ugly! There is another important part of biking, are we being mislead by by the comics (MCN, Bike + overs) is believing into bigger more power is better, over the riding experience of a smaller capacity bikes?
    I should also add the screen and bar end mirrors add the the Triumph style.

  • @Ainsworth-Rider
    @Ainsworth-Rider Місяць тому +1

    I take it that the suspension isn't as good as the Gorilla ?

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +2

      To be fair, very similar….perhaps I need another ride on the Guerrilla to make sure 🤔😂

    • @Ainsworth-Rider
      @Ainsworth-Rider Місяць тому

      @@ianhughesroyalenfield I'm up for that 👍

  • @ianhalliwell8604
    @ianhalliwell8604 Місяць тому +2

    Its not everything being smaller Ian it's us getting bigger as we grow older. To me i think the Guerrilla is a more serious and grown up piece of kit with the extra power giving it the edge. There's been a number of reports that the Triumph has had metal in the oil when being replaced, down to some fault with the timing chain i think. Not good publicity.

    • @ianhughesroyalenfield
      @ianhughesroyalenfield  Місяць тому +1

      I did wonder where you were going at the start of the comment Ian 🤔……thought you were going to say that I have become a “lard arse” with age 😂😂. I agree, about feeling like the Guerrilla is more grown up, but wonder why I turn into a bonkers 19 year old when I get on it 🤔🫣😎. Not good about things going wrong on the Triumph, hopefully they are teething problems which will get sorted. Cheers

  • @GapBahnDirk
    @GapBahnDirk Місяць тому +1

    I dunno. 🦍🦍. Hard to say 🦍🦍.Maybe 🦍🦍. But then again.... 🦍🦍 😁😁