California's Tank Unit for Nuclear War

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    Chapters:
    0:00 - Division Origins
    1:12 - Pre-Pentomic Structure (1954-59)
    5:05 - Unit Stations Mapped
    6:31 - 1959 Reorganization
    8:37 - Pentomic Structure (1959)
    11:03 - Post-Pentomic (1963-2024)
    Sources:
    On Pre-CARS Organization, Strength, and Conversion (1954-1959):
    • "Biennial report of the Adjutant General". State of California Military Department 1954-1956 catalog.hathitrust.org/Record...
    • "The Grizzly" (40th Armored Division Magazine) for September-October, 1955
    • "The Grizzly" (40th Armored Division Magazine) for November-December 1956
    • "The Grizzly" (40th Armored Division Magazine) for May-June 1958
    On CARS/Pentomic Organization and Conversion (1959):
    • "Biennial report of the Adjutant General". State of California Military Department 1958-60 catalog.hathitrust.org/Record...
    Pre-Pentomic Armored Division TO&E:
    • "Reference Data for Armored Units" (March 1956) www.battleorder.org/post/usa-...
    Pentomic Armored Division TO&E (ROCAD):
    • "Reference Data for Armor Units (ROCAD-ROCID)" (May 1957) www.battleorder.org/post/usa-...
    General Pentomic Army Information: webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/p/20...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 184

  • @BattleOrder
    @BattleOrder  Місяць тому +82

    In this house we call National Guard content Dorfcore
    x.com/j_hausdorf/status/1763852763732340957?s=46&t=qn2pRfUSbhcYA-indva3ww

    • @Mbarry829
      @Mbarry829 Місяць тому +6

      Well, looks like I'm gonna have to pay up.

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 Місяць тому +1

      RAD

    • @Alex-pj8nz
      @Alex-pj8nz Місяць тому

      Well looking at Fallout TV, it’s going to be a brotherhood of steel tank division now. Besides only the brotherhood has the tech to make tanks that are rad resistant enough to be use in a nuke wasteland.

  • @jmjd8
    @jmjd8 Місяць тому +608

    Caesar’s legion ain’t got shit on this

    • @somethingelse516
      @somethingelse516 Місяць тому +21

      Absolutely!

    • @wagahagwa6978
      @wagahagwa6978 Місяць тому +48

      these tanks had spurs that jingle jangle jingle

    • @imgvillasrc1608
      @imgvillasrc1608 Місяць тому +40

      While NCR got a whole new armoured division, Caesar's Legion just got their only broken howitzer working.

    • @RipRLeeErmey
      @RipRLeeErmey Місяць тому +13

      ​@@imgvillasrc1608 (It's only capable of firing 4 shells before the barrel banana peels out)

    • @jmjd8
      @jmjd8 29 днів тому +1

      Caesar hearing that the NCR has a whole armored division
      Caesar: Ok soldier what is the problem
      Legion soldier: the NCR forces attacked us with steel monsters
      Caesar: Hold on, Steel monsters. They attacked us with TANKS!?
      Legion Soldier: Yes sir but also with vehicles where infantry would come out
      Caesar: So they had IFVS!?
      Legion soldier: Yes sir
      Caesar: Well we must stop them with our soldiers and get that howitzer ready to fight them
      Legion soldier: Yes sir
      Caesar: tell the army to retreat to defensive hills and mountains in our lands let the NCR stretch their supply lines
      Legion soldier: Ok sir

  • @justsomepotato6160
    @justsomepotato6160 Місяць тому +809

    "Patrolling the Mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter."
    edit: this did not age well. But hey, they got their wish true! except for the winter part.

    • @ArthurMorgan_Gaming
      @ArthurMorgan_Gaming Місяць тому +74

      I can't be the only one to think that this was going to be a video on the NCR

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 Місяць тому +15

      ​@@ArthurMorgan_Gaming Ikr? I'm incredibly disappointed.

    • @Randomusername56782
      @Randomusername56782 Місяць тому +4

      Beat me to it.

    • @Hunter_Nebid
      @Hunter_Nebid Місяць тому +9

      As someone who did a few rotations at NTC Ft. Irwin, I can attest to this being true.

    • @wyvern_wolf2821
      @wyvern_wolf2821 Місяць тому +1

      *Looks at Wasteland 3* .....

  • @nathanbot5373
    @nathanbot5373 Місяць тому +555

    Gets fucking nuked “Suboptimal”

  • @neurofiedyamato8763
    @neurofiedyamato8763 Місяць тому +249

    "This was the division's main nuclear strike capability" is just a wild sentence to hear nowadays. Always hilarious to me how in the 40s and 50s, nukes were just seen as just extra big boom stick and treated like any other forms of artillery.

    • @imgvillasrc1608
      @imgvillasrc1608 Місяць тому +15

      The GI Generation were just built different

    • @stevenrodriguez763
      @stevenrodriguez763 Місяць тому +27

      Back then deaths in the millions for a war wasn’t weird. And a EMP or lack of electricity wouldn’t make all of civilization collapse. A lot of legacy factories, plants and etc were still around. This era if the world was a weird inter war period.

    • @florinivan6907
      @florinivan6907 27 днів тому +5

      @@stevenrodriguez763 Actually the fact that they didn't have a nuke war shows how nukes weren't treated as just another weapon. Plus the US could not afford to lose millions. In WW2 US dead was a little over 400k. US leaders realised that a war with millions of dead would be economically unsustainable. Ie even if you win you still lose. Looting riots and unrest. In war its all about the money not the people or buildings. A nuke war would kill your currency simple as that. Currency collapse is a defeat by default. That's what it boils down to money nothing more. A nuke war is too costly even with only millions dead.

    • @lars7935
      @lars7935 22 дні тому +1

      @@stevenrodriguez763 EMP is actually much more of a threat to the grid than to modern semiconcuctors. EMPs of sufficient strength could in theory heavily damage the electric grid but microelectronics are quite resistant actually.
      So the issue is more one of local redundancy and damage control.
      The Idea that EMPs knock out all electronics is more fiction than fact.

  • @spicypizza4841
    @spicypizza4841 Місяць тому +222

    Now actually do NCR for April fools

  • @the_christopher
    @the_christopher Місяць тому +242

    "Suboptimal"
    I'm not even twenty seconds in, and this video's already got me hooked in and ready to absorb some incredibly niche information. Let's gooo!!

    • @dannyzero692
      @dannyzero692 Місяць тому +13

      Truly a suboptimal Spookston moment

    • @wiryantirta
      @wiryantirta Місяць тому +5

      its like you at work explaining to your boss that 2/3 of the shift team is gone due to food poisoning from catering: "yeah uh.. its suboptimal"

  • @m60pattoncovidiot29
    @m60pattoncovidiot29 Місяць тому +136

    Seems like it's right outa fallout

  • @user-xl1gi2hd5n
    @user-xl1gi2hd5n Місяць тому +79

    The new california armored division

    • @TheRandCrews
      @TheRandCrews Місяць тому +14

      Let’s see if Caesar’s Legion can handle them

  • @fleurdetristesse5218
    @fleurdetristesse5218 Місяць тому +93

    did not pull back on the fallout new vegas references, incredibly based

  • @KyleDodgin-lq1iy
    @KyleDodgin-lq1iy Місяць тому +140

    Wonder if if the men of the 40th were ever nicknamed “Los Osos” ( “The Bears”)

    • @MyMomSaysImKeen
      @MyMomSaysImKeen Місяць тому +16

      Those are absolutely ursinine names

    • @KyleDodgin-lq1iy
      @KyleDodgin-lq1iy Місяць тому +5

      Sorry I mean to say it as Los Osos meaning the bears

    • @abrahamgn3614
      @abrahamgn3614 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@MyMomSaysImKeen sybau N

  • @kenbb99
    @kenbb99 Місяць тому +61

    I lived in Manhattan Beach from '92 to 2000. Walking to the beach or parking nearby, I thought it was very weird that some of the most expensive real estate in SoCal (quarter mile from the beach) was an NG base. Also, watching the troops roll out past my house on a sunny, mellow beach day for the '92 Rodney King riots was surreal. Sunshine and bayonets in LA.

    • @RadioactiveSherbet
      @RadioactiveSherbet Місяць тому +5

      "Sunshine and bayonets." A phrase I never thought I needed.... until now.

    • @tedarlauskas4290
      @tedarlauskas4290 Місяць тому +1

      The Manhattan Beach Armory is one of my favorite places I’ve worked.

  • @akigreus9424
    @akigreus9424 Місяць тому +62

    Who else clicked here expecting a video about NCR from Falloutverse Armored Unit in some new bit of lore.

    • @The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger
      @The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger Місяць тому +8

      Me, i kinda want to start a new campaign for HoI 4 Fallout mod as the NCR and focus on tanks.

    • @akigreus9424
      @akigreus9424 Місяць тому +8

      @@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger ya know you can build a wood stove car engine. Finally got use for all dem dead trees

    • @imgvillasrc1608
      @imgvillasrc1608 Місяць тому +1

      @@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger Dude, what did Caesar's Legion do to you?

    • @The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger
      @The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger Місяць тому +3

      @@imgvillasrc1608 they stole my brahmin, poisoned my well, burned my ranch, and crucified my boyfriend 😡

    • @AlexSDU
      @AlexSDU Місяць тому

      I didn't play Fallout, but when I saw the flag in the thumbnail, I thought same thing too.😅

  • @rifleman2c997
    @rifleman2c997 Місяць тому +25

    "Suboptimal" understatement.
    Also, them spurs jingle jangle jingle

  • @goregalore_
    @goregalore_ Місяць тому +39

    The guard is always getting into wacky shenanigans without any of the attention. Take note SEALs, that’s what silent professionals look like/j

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Місяць тому +4

      The Guard weren't silent, just no one cared.

    • @copter2000
      @copter2000 Місяць тому +7

      But how are they gonna sell a book about this super awesome top-secret operation?

  • @erwin669
    @erwin669 Місяць тому +14

    I was in the Florida National Guard and at the same time we were going through a similar organzation change up. In 1955 the 48th Armored Divsion was a two combat commands and the Florida componet was made up of 1/124th Infantry, 3/154th Infantry, 1/187th Armor, and the 149th Armored Artillery . In 1959 they became 53rd Armor Brigade which was 1/124th Infantry, 2/124th Infantry, 1/187th Armor, and 2/116th Field Artillery. Basically they just reflagged the Florida infantry units to their historical formation (124th Infantry). In 1968 They stopped being a seperate armor briage and became an infantry brigade with the 1/87th Armor being reflagged as the 3/124th Infantry.
    What makes things even crazier is that whatever unit that had its armory in Ocala, Fl was called "Ocala Rifles" no matter what kind of unit was based there. Originally it was C Co, 2/124th, then B Co, 1/187th, for a bit it was E Trp, 153rd Cav, back to the 2/124th, and now its the C Btry of 2/116 FA. All the units that was called "Ocala Rifles" are stil serving in the brigade.

    • @richardnoah2922
      @richardnoah2922 Місяць тому +3

      And the 48th got downgraded to a brigade team of the 24th mechanised infantry after that, and now it’s a light infantry component of the third infantry.

    • @erwin669
      @erwin669 Місяць тому

      @@richardnoah2922 around the time I left the 53rd (so 2014) we were being told that we were going to be attached to 3rd ID. That didn’t happen. They are under the 29th ID along with a brigade from North Carolina, which I find kinda odd.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Місяць тому +24

    Gives me Fallout: New Vegas vibes bro!

  • @davidrajtr8332
    @davidrajtr8332 Місяць тому +17

    Funny things is that in those time after WW2 Soviet army tank regiments of motorifle divisions had 63 tanks in 3 battalions (21 tanks per battalion), and here one US tank battalion had 69 tanks, more than whole Soviet tank regiment.

    • @Stargazzer811
      @Stargazzer811 Місяць тому +9

      Yeah but remember, the Soviets also had far more regiments over all. A Tank Army was mostly armor or IFVs with very little infantry for support and scouting.

    • @kamiloniszczuk9685
      @kamiloniszczuk9685 Місяць тому

      A bit like the eastern front, when sometimes a single German division defended an area from a couple Soviet armies (that often included "Armor Brigades" that had less than 10 tanks)

    • @davidrajtr8332
      @davidrajtr8332 Місяць тому +9

      @@kamiloniszczuk9685because red army army was in reality corps size unit. Sometimes german corps was bigger than red army army. And soviet tank brigades usually had 63 tanks, 3 tank battalions each with 21 tanks

    • @kamiloniszczuk9685
      @kamiloniszczuk9685 Місяць тому +1

      @@davidrajtr8332 Russia's armies still are. As for world war two it was also the case of a lot of units being understrength due to losses and other factors

    • @strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
      @strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 Місяць тому

      Soviet and Russian combat units didn't include platoons, due to a lack of senior NCOs. A Soviet Company was about the size of a large NATO platoon.

  • @user-mw8mh5oq8j
    @user-mw8mh5oq8j Місяць тому +5

    The Two officers of the aviation "company" just sitting across the table from each other and being the entire command structure of the division

  • @ad_astra5
    @ad_astra5 Місяць тому +8

    You know, I have a feeling battle order would’ve been happier if it was a NorCal unit lol

  • @funrun07haan50
    @funrun07haan50 Місяць тому +5

    I saw the NCR flag and i was like helll yeah like

  • @ethanfreeman157
    @ethanfreeman157 Місяць тому +6

    You should make a video explaining how the national guard is organized in the US, bc I had no idea that each state had its own division, I thought it was each region. Also who decides what unit gets what, the Fed or the State. I have so many questions

  • @itsnumgies7027
    @itsnumgies7027 Місяць тому +5

    I thought he was gonna talk about fallout’s NCR armoured division LMAO

  • @marcmelissas8106
    @marcmelissas8106 Місяць тому +19

    The 40th Inf Div was a shell of itself from 2006 to current with several BCTs (29th IBCT, 41st IBCT, 79th IBCT,and 81st SBCT) at different times notionally aligned under them for training support. With the conversion to a "Light" Infantry Division by 2030(?) the 40th might be a real division again.

    • @Mbarry829
      @Mbarry829 Місяць тому +8

      That was the nature of the BCT centric force though. Brigades were not expected to deploy with their parent division, and divisions were not expected to command "their" BCTs.

  • @medic7698
    @medic7698 Місяць тому +1

    Interesting video. Thankyou. Also nice to see a bit more detail on med units.

  • @tedarlauskas4290
    @tedarlauskas4290 Місяць тому +4

    Having served in the 40ID - I can’t LIKE this video enough!

    • @Law0086
      @Law0086 Місяць тому +1

      That's amazing! Thanks for serving!

  • @prestongarvey7745
    @prestongarvey7745 Місяць тому +8

    Great video as always… but I have to say I was a little disappointed after seeing the thumbnail.
    At least the NV map came up; so that’s something.

  • @aayushhaldar9243
    @aayushhaldar9243 Місяць тому +4

    lets go, new video = new knowledge.

  • @archiegeorge3969
    @archiegeorge3969 Місяць тому +9

    I wonder what the point of that aviation company was. Only 2 officers to fly, how many aircraft did they actually have in hand?

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  Місяць тому +17

      Probably just a cadre to fill out during mobilization. But this was also the first year after converting from a section/detachment sized unit. By 1962 they had grew from 71 to 150 personnel

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Місяць тому +1

      Literally to do the paperwork and just maintain the facilities and any equipment they actually had.

  • @bl1t7theprotogenhybrid72
    @bl1t7theprotogenhybrid72 28 днів тому +3

    I thought this was the story of the NCR military from Fallout NV, that's why I am here lol

  • @paulhennessy5627
    @paulhennessy5627 Місяць тому +10

    Seriuosly messy reorgs..

  • @CA-oi6ys
    @CA-oi6ys Місяць тому +1

    My Grandpa was in this division, he served on the M48 and M60.

  • @TheSmarq17
    @TheSmarq17 Місяць тому +1

    Never knew the Battalion name (134th) that was based locally here, thanks for that info. I do remember that each of our larger towns (3) had active armories that would be rented out from time to time for weddings/b-days/etc and it was always a thrill if you could "take" your girl on top of the stationed tank (M-48?) parked in back. Good times.

  • @tidepod10yearsago97
    @tidepod10yearsago97 27 днів тому +2

    NCR gonna liberate Hoover dam with this one

  • @gaspardpiet4275
    @gaspardpiet4275 Місяць тому +1

    Amazing video. Just a little question : did the video on the javelot division got axed ? I would love to compare the differences between us and french pentomic organization !

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  Місяць тому +2

      That’ll be next month. I just shifted things around because I wanted to get the IBCT video out first and I’m doing an April Fools video, so needed something that took less time to make for this week

  • @liamt6425
    @liamt6425 Місяць тому +2

    Once again, I am asking for a US combat Engineer structure evolution video

  • @joshstephens6574
    @joshstephens6574 26 днів тому

    Went to NTC at Ft Irwin with 167th 4th Alabama. Volunteered for trail party just to be able to have a night out on the town in Las Vegas with about 30 the rest of our companies. Although we had to group with minimum 4 people to make sure nobody gets "rolled up" while out having a good time. It was worth it.
    Charlie 5/46 Fy Knox BCT

  • @thomasborowski2971
    @thomasborowski2971 Місяць тому

    Do u plan on doing a video of the airborne cav being disbanded in the 82 div? They are still around currently but are soon to be reclassed if they wish to stay in the div

  • @justmiko9461
    @justmiko9461 Місяць тому +1

    Hello Battle Order.
    This is unrelated but can you explain how SPAAG's are integrated into units? Specifically Russian ones like Shilka's or more modern Tunguska's.
    I'm interested on how they are used in a cold war/modern setting.

  • @Otterdisappointment
    @Otterdisappointment 23 дні тому

    This is a well made April Fools joke but I legit love this Pentomic stuff. The only problem is the “spread out” part.

  • @dwarvensphere1094
    @dwarvensphere1094 Місяць тому +1

    I can't get over how hilarious this channel is 😂😂
    #dorfcore

  • @AndresRodriguez-uv6mx
    @AndresRodriguez-uv6mx Місяць тому

    Never, have i ever expected to hear Whittier in any form of military history. I never knew there was a unit stationed here

  • @rickytorres8566
    @rickytorres8566 Місяць тому +1

    Im curious what are your sources for NG units manning/readiness category?

  • @M1A2C_SeP_v3
    @M1A2C_SeP_v3 11 днів тому

    I’ve got spurrs that jingle jangle jingle

  • @marcmelissas8106
    @marcmelissas8106 Місяць тому +3

    This video was very informative as I knew the generalities but not the specifics, i.e., unit details.

  • @goforbroke4428
    @goforbroke4428 Місяць тому

    @Battle Order the 40th ID had a Korea mission with I corps

  • @trinahoward2332
    @trinahoward2332 14 днів тому

    A good old NCR fallout best version of this military

  • @starwarsfan5492
    @starwarsfan5492 Місяць тому

    Can you do a video about the evolution of us tank divisions from 1960 to present?

  • @connerymartin2952
    @connerymartin2952 Місяць тому

    You should do something about the Air Force next.

  • @JayBaddAssCutler
    @JayBaddAssCutler Місяць тому +29

    NCR Vibes

  • @phantomvmfa122
    @phantomvmfa122 Місяць тому

    Where was the MP company based?

  • @raptorcell6633
    @raptorcell6633 Місяць тому

    Refers to any period of time as "peak vibes."
    Shows a unit getting an lethal dose of instant sunshine: suboptimal
    Fallout New Vegas references galore.
    This video is peak vibes.

  • @tallywacker2941
    @tallywacker2941 4 дні тому

    Interesting as this vid may be, what exactly does it have to do with fallout?

  • @Martian2607
    @Martian2607 6 днів тому

    *Takes sip from trusty vault 13 canteen

  • @Law0086
    @Law0086 Місяць тому

    GO BAND GO!

  • @mikearmstrong8483
    @mikearmstrong8483 Місяць тому +2

    Hmmmm.......let's just turn an armored artillery battalion into an aviation unit, because it looks good on paper. While we're at it, let's turn infantry units into engineers. If it fits the Army's plan, these guys can all just figure out what to do. Oh, and don't forget to put a strong emphasis on the band; they have a critical combat role.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Місяць тому +1

      I've lived thru two of these conversions, and yeah, its as bad as you imagine.

  • @cane6074
    @cane6074 Місяць тому

    It would make a great story idea for a fallout game, it could take place during the war between the Brotherhood of Steel and the NCR, in which they both learn about the existence of the division's tactical nuclear armament, and are in a race with each other to find the nuclear storage bunker to win the war and use them to rebuild America/Civilization. The player character is an agent hired by Mr. House to prevent this in order to maintain his New Vergas fiefdom falling to the victors as a result of them gaining them. Also, I wonder how being a National Guard formation effected the security arraignments for the tactical nukes.

  • @maggotking
    @maggotking Місяць тому +1

    can you please make a video about the israeli fire teams i need it for a game

  • @alexroselle
    @alexroselle 28 днів тому

    In my head at least one of the 40th California’s tanks had “Big Iron” painted on its gun barrel

  • @dansubchenko
    @dansubchenko Місяць тому +1

    Almost unsubscribed when I heard "peak vibes" but then I realized anyone who doesn't think or speak like me is not automatically my enemy... what a concept

  • @Stk3r
    @Stk3r 6 днів тому

    California should still have some fuel barrels by the 2270s, they could get the tanks up and running for days, which is probably enough to do a crash course on tank operations training (duh, you can't go into battle with no knowledge)

  • @Lou-no8hw
    @Lou-no8hw Місяць тому

    In the 70’s and early 80’s the 40th Division had M-48 tanks and 113 ACPS.

  • @SnorVogel
    @SnorVogel 26 днів тому +1

    Ngl I thought this was about Fallout but I mean he did use the NCR flag

  • @Varangoi
    @Varangoi Місяць тому

    I had to check the date. Is it 1. April already? 😂

  • @beemy.6923
    @beemy.6923 Місяць тому

    “We’ll tank the hit it’s all good.”

  • @JcDent
    @JcDent Місяць тому +1

    Why would you redesignate an artillery battery as an air company? What's the point???

  • @bumpermanthesecond615
    @bumpermanthesecond615 21 день тому

    We just have to wait another 200 years to see if it's true

  • @oakleygordon7777
    @oakleygordon7777 Місяць тому

    The structure of the National Guard is so confusing to me. I'd love to see more videos about it.

    • @Stargazzer811
      @Stargazzer811 Місяць тому +3

      Doesn't help that post-WW2 alot of line units got either nuked and reorganized or downgraded to Guard units during the post-war drawdown. The 50's and 60's were a messy time for the Army and Guard both, just like right now.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Місяць тому +1

      Confused is the general state of the Army National Guard. Its either the sandbox for the Army to try Gud Ideas, the last to get the latest Bold New Plan, or usually, somewhere in between.

  • @karlotto689
    @karlotto689 Місяць тому

    Make please a Video about the new german lithuania brigade.

  • @cjclark1208
    @cjclark1208 Місяць тому

    Sure make it difficult to establish unit history long term, double check just in case lol.

  • @gregoryjcopplin7430
    @gregoryjcopplin7430 Місяць тому

    In the early 80s weren’t they rocking the M48A5

  • @lieutenantkettch
    @lieutenantkettch Місяць тому

    War... war never changes.

  • @BillyBOB-sm3rl
    @BillyBOB-sm3rl Місяць тому

    What was that movie, they remayed. The day the world studed still. The original had army units flow from everywhere. There wa ls no unit structure. That is why I love your channel. My dad was 7th cav right before 2nd ID was reflagged as 1st Cav. I was asked to join the Hooosier scouts. I laughed because they what they wanted was USSF or Army Rangers. And your would go to Ranger training. I am too old for that tom fuffier.
    Do a video about the Hooosier Scouts.

  • @doppelgangerk
    @doppelgangerk День тому

    Patroling in the mojave I wish my M48-M2248 have an AC

  • @AlexSDU
    @AlexSDU Місяць тому

    8:16 M1 Garand? What year was this footage taken? 1950's?

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  Місяць тому +1

      Yes. The M14 didn't really start coming in widespread until the early 60s. Active-duty army units were still using the M1 Garand even into the early 1960s, like with the 2nd Infantry Division (part of the rapid response STRAC corps) during the ole Miss riots of 1962

    • @AlexSDU
      @AlexSDU Місяць тому

      @@BattleOrder I see. Thanks for the info.

  • @NoTerrorManagement
    @NoTerrorManagement Місяць тому +2

    I thought this was a video about Fallout lmao

  • @mississaugaicedogs
    @mississaugaicedogs Місяць тому

    any chance of looking at canadas reorganization in 1963?

  • @pdbsstudios7137
    @pdbsstudios7137 6 днів тому

    Patrolling the Mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter!

  • @tiny_tex
    @tiny_tex Місяць тому

    divisional nuclear artillery is just.... god i love the 50s

  • @pickeldratjuices5508
    @pickeldratjuices5508 13 днів тому

    If only they had this for Shady Sands…

  • @shilopnamreg6468
    @shilopnamreg6468 Місяць тому +1

    Living in SoCal almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

  • @jakto3362
    @jakto3362 Місяць тому

    This shit making the brotherhood jealous asf

  • @DeathSocrates
    @DeathSocrates Місяць тому

    Did any of the other allies have a anything close to a pentomic type program?

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  Місяць тому +2

      France tried it on a limited scale in the late 50s with airborne divisions and one light mechanized division (7e DMR, which was more like an American ACR than armored division) but didn't adopt it immediately for the rest of the force. They had something like it in the 1980s, but the rationale was more to make divisions smaller/less costly to enable their modernization program.
      Germany and Japan had a Pentomic-style structure along American lines, although the Germans abandoned it in the 1960s (but the Japanese kept it).
      The Australians tried it with "Pentropic" but abandoned it

  • @JacatackLP
    @JacatackLP Місяць тому

    I may be reaching here but this wasn’t inspired by the Fallout MTG decks that just dropped was it?

  • @Crazy_Talk96
    @Crazy_Talk96 Місяць тому

    NCR 🤘🏽

  • @YourLocalDemocracy.Officer
    @YourLocalDemocracy.Officer 10 днів тому +1

    some Fallout type stuff

  • @TheManWhoSoldTheWorld96
    @TheManWhoSoldTheWorld96 Місяць тому

    Remember kids the house always win

  • @bastiannass6844
    @bastiannass6844 4 дні тому

    I absolutley love the ncr flag

  • @WynnofThule
    @WynnofThule Місяць тому

    0:15 *gets nuked*
    SUBOPTIMAL

  • @janelewis989
    @janelewis989 Місяць тому

    Let’s fucking go nuclear warfare divisions I want more of this

  • @quasarsavage
    @quasarsavage Місяць тому +1

    Actually based Cali ❤😊

  • @williamotani8892
    @williamotani8892 Місяць тому

    5:08 NorCal/ Central Californian spotted

  • @alexwycc7334
    @alexwycc7334 Місяць тому

    Does anyone know why virtually all armies name their units in the way that makes no sense? Why don’t we have 1st 2nd 3rd divisions instead of 44th ? It’s not like there are 43 divisions before it! Am I wrong ? Are there ? Or do they do it so as to not disclose the actual number of units one army has? What’s the deal here

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  Місяць тому +2

      Divisions carry on the lineage of divisions that existed when there were many more divisions

  • @matthewgraham6980
    @matthewgraham6980 Місяць тому

    Glory to the new California republic.

  • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
    @jed-henrywitkowski6470 Місяць тому

    NCR?! Lol.

  • @ComfortsSpecter
    @ComfortsSpecter Місяць тому


    What in The-
    If You’re gonna Makeup a Funni Division
    Atleast Make It Practical
    Well, for California, This Is The Best They’re Getting

  • @wgrundmeier
    @wgrundmeier Місяць тому

    I thought Pentomic divisions were supposed to be smaller? Your reorganizing example doesn't look any smaller.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  Місяць тому

      The Armored Division version of Pentomic wasn't much different from what came before because Armored Divisions were already viewed as mobile, protected and flexible enough for a nuclear battlefield. The CARS reflaggings that came with Pentomic were arguably a bigger change for armor

  • @janelewis989
    @janelewis989 Місяць тому

    Give me more pentatonic army!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @NoobHammer
    @NoobHammer 7 днів тому

    fallotu

  • @BarsPolat-mu8dr
    @BarsPolat-mu8dr Місяць тому

    Türkçe dil desteği olursa güzel olur kardeşim