Motostrelki '22: Russian Infantry Tactics & Structure

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    • Call of Duty 2, Medal of Honor: European Asslt & Pacific Asslt, Company of Heroes 2 OSTs
    Sources:
    • "Purpose, organizational structure of a motorized rifle (tank) battalion, artillery battalion and their c*mbat capabilities in various types of c*mbat". Department of General Military Training (2017)
    • Shtat 05/060 :Motor Rifle Battalion (on MT-LBV-M)" (~2008)
    • "The Russian Way of War" by Lester Grau & Charles Bartles
    • "Code table of army ranks" by Yu.Veremeev
    • Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of November 10, 2007 N 1495 (as revised on 07/09/2020)
    • "Found a document revealing the c*mbat strength of the tactical group of the 36th separate motorized rifle brigade of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation." by InformNapalm
    "Medical support in the company" by O. AULOV
    Intro: (0:00)
    Battalion Organization: (0:32)
    Company Organization: (3:06)
    March Formation: (9:44)
    Attack: (11:13)
    Defense: (12:15)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 1,4 тис.

  • @BattleOrder
    @BattleOrder  3 роки тому +382

    Here is a summary of changes that were alleged to have been made as part of the "New Look" reforms and some caveats:
    1. BMP Company HQs were reduced from 2 vehicles to 1 vehicle. Personnel remained the same except the removal of the spare Mechanic-Driver and Gunner-Operator. While the video shows 1 vehicle in the Company HQ in accordance with our most up-to-date sources, I would not be surprised if 2 vehicles was still a practice in some units to keep the HQ vehicles from getting too cramped.
    2. PKP/PKM general-purpose machine gun replaces the RPK-74 as the main squad automatic.
    3. Platoon HQs were reduced with the removal of the 2-man PKM team, Rifleman-Medic and Sniper/Marksman. The SVD marksman rifles were moved to the brigade and battalion level in sniper units. Introduced of squad-level PKP/PKMs likely made the platoon-level 7.62x54mmR systems redundant.
    4. Squad-level SVDs in BTR/MT-LB platoons were removed.
    5. Assistant machine gunner was added to the BMP platoon due to the new PKP GPMG.
    6. The Praporschik rank was briefly abolished around the period of 2008-2013, but was brought back.
    Some sources state that instead of being battalion-level, in BTR battalions ATGM teams are directly assigned to motor rifle companies. These are mostly pre-2008 sources, though. Also for some reason some newer sources neglect to mention a Deputy Company Commander, but I've seen evidence of this position still existing through Russian press releases and other means.

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 3 роки тому +3

      Wish u make video about SOCOM in the future

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 3 роки тому +3

      I wonder what the RPK-16 is for then. Maybe special units still find use for it, or just for export?

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 3 роки тому +2

      @@blackore64 I heard that Russian Army demand belt-feed version based on RPK-16, thus Kalashnikov introduced RPL-20 recently, maybe RPL-20 will be adopted instead or both.

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 3 роки тому +14

      @@pirotess2 Huh, so we've come full circle from RPD then?

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 3 роки тому +12

      I heard some guy that claim there are still many Russian units still use RPK-74s as main squad automatic in Syria and in Middle and East Districts.

  • @Killerpixel11
    @Killerpixel11 3 роки тому +1750

    US: optics on every rifle should prove useful to increase combat effectiveness.
    Russia: Radar.

    • @jb76489
      @jb76489 3 роки тому +39

      Jon Blank yeah that’s not at all true but whatever

    • @phucprice6698
      @phucprice6698 3 роки тому +136

      Jon Blank the American during vietnam war also has a Colt 4x optic on their M16 and was used by the SOG, putting optic on rifle is already being consider by everyone ever since the 40s since the metallurgy technology allow for creation of rigid, reliable optical sight for the common grunt. The German was the 1st to use the optic on their STG-44. It just now that we rich enough to put optic on every rifle. Also Radar intended for use as a group is never as beneficial for the individual soldier as having an ACOG on their weapon. To this day the Russian still far lack behind this aspect, and the amount of unit in russian armed force that was equipped with combat optic for their rifle is very limited, except the universal Platoon Marksman with their SVD ( although this also getting removed as this video imply )

    • @jb76489
      @jb76489 3 роки тому +12

      Jon Blank even though fluorine has a higher electro negativity, chlorine has the highest electron affinity due to its increased size decreasing electrostatic repulsion

    • @woodonfire7406
      @woodonfire7406 3 роки тому +20

      I'd be cool if Russia keeps making more of those AK-12, AK-15 and AK-19 guns
      Oh, and modifying the AK-100 series to where it has rails and shit
      That's if they have the money to do so

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 3 роки тому +70

      First of all, Russian military understands the effectiveness of infantry optics as well, although it gives them a lower priority compared to other, more pressing needs. Hence why, despite having capacity for optics on most of its service weapons (certainly RPGs & rifles and to lesser extent machineguns), only sniper rifles and RPGs are always issued with them, while with other firearms situation varies quite a bit.
      Secondly, the US Army was using radars in similar manner all way back during Vietnam war (AN/PPS-5), and there are modern systems of that nature too (AN/PPS-15). The difference here is more in exact execution and nuances of deployment, than in overall understanding of field radar usefulness.

  • @user-le8wr4yz6q
    @user-le8wr4yz6q 3 роки тому +1316

    Praporshchik - providing memes and anecdotes since the Empire times...

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 3 роки тому +58

      Well, I also heard at least few anecdotes about chorążych and podporuczników (ensigns and 2nd lieutenants), most of them dating from time of mandatory military service

    • @MrBlueBurd0451
      @MrBlueBurd0451 3 роки тому +27

      In the same way that 2nd LTs or other O-1s are memetically incompetent in NATO militaries?

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 3 роки тому +38

      @@MrBlueBurd0451 from those anecdotes that I overheard, ensigns (especially those from reserve) were considered cocky (and in slang were called "peacocks" due to look of their rank) and useless (except paperwork, as they usually were just after university), but lieutenants - that was more of "because Major said so" while senior/staff sergeant was opposing doing what Major said (it usually was around "it will be useful" stuff that was not in official records)

    • @G-Mastah-Fash
      @G-Mastah-Fash 3 роки тому +41

      @@user-le8wr4yz6q Sounds like Prapor from Tarkov alright.

    • @vaevictis2789
      @vaevictis2789 3 роки тому +18

      @@Jfk2Mr yeah, and we have a tons of anecdotes about "porucik (porucznik in Russian) Rżewski"

  • @RockSpyPigeon
    @RockSpyPigeon 3 роки тому +1352

    It's really interesting to see how geography shapes your doctrine; Russians have that emphasis on covering ground, which seems logical since their main battlespace would be flat plains.
    In comparison, in a swiss armoured battalion, we usually have a very narrow front and rely more on “changing echelon” (sending one company for a limited push, then the second continues the push, then the third and so on), which is logical since we essentially fight in a lot of natural chokepoints (mountains, hills, forested area).
    Great video!

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 3 роки тому +26

      Yeah u have a lot of experience in fighting lol.

    • @RockSpyPigeon
      @RockSpyPigeon 3 роки тому +143

      @@user-di5rm9ee1p Exercises still shape doctrine, my friend.
      But yeah, we luckily haven't fought for a while.

    • @norten76
      @norten76 3 роки тому +94

      @@user-di5rm9ee1p You can lol all you want, but if you knew history, you would know that when the Swiss did fight, they generally kicked ass.

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 3 роки тому +4

      @@RockSpyPigeon Experience in fighting shape doctrine and exercise just keeps you sharp nothing else.

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 3 роки тому +14

      @@norten76 I loughed how he formulated sentence not at the fact they didnt fought for long time... And actualy I know enough about Swiss to respect they way of thinking towards defending their country. In my opinion it is inside their society some form of military state and I like that fact believe it or not.

  • @virhonestus8921
    @virhonestus8921 2 роки тому +592

    Well this just got a lot more relevant today.

    • @ramirezad45
      @ramirezad45 2 роки тому +60

      I love how this video literally described the current situation of the Russians. On how they don’t have enough properly trained and skilled solider, there’s not enough modern gear, and how conscripts make the bulk of the force

    • @TB-zf7we
      @TB-zf7we 2 роки тому +29

      @@ramirezad45 Russian don't seem to have a night fighting ability. When they attached the Ukrainian Nuclear plant at Enerhodar, they were using large artillery flares but none of the captured soldiers or vehicles appear to have any vision gear (that I have seen) other than I assume heavy vehicle (tank) sights.

    • @matissruncis9247
      @matissruncis9247 2 роки тому +24

      @@TB-zf7we I am going to guess that Ivan only has enough modern stuff to make it look good on tv.🤣

    • @ronniefarnsworth6465
      @ronniefarnsworth6465 2 роки тому +14

      War Criminals and Paper Tigers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @satanicmicrochipv5656
      @satanicmicrochipv5656 2 роки тому +2

      @@matissruncis9247
      You would be correct.
      It's all propaganda/advertising to attract foreign investors.
      They can't afford the "high tech" gear they imply they have.
      Their super cruise stealth fighter for example, only exists on paper.
      The one they've rolled out is a plywood mock up of what it would look like if it was ever made.

  • @shardell
    @shardell 2 роки тому +700

    Well, it looks like their tactics were ACTUALLY just to buy p90 and rush B

    • @melaninfarmer
      @melaninfarmer 2 роки тому +9

      LOL

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 2 роки тому +4

      Rush Kiev Blyat

    • @Myriip
      @Myriip 2 роки тому +52

      Nah, their tactic was to prop up Ukraine military with new tanks, APCS, anti-air vehicles etc.

    • @maxiona714
      @maxiona714 2 роки тому +2

      Why the P90? Is it so much better for certain things?

    • @shardell
      @shardell 2 роки тому +55

      @@maxiona714 It’s a CS:GO reference, a stereotype in that game is that Russian players choose to throw out all strategy and rush B site with a P90. The P90 in the game is good for moving and shooting and spraying.

  • @potatosinnato1767
    @potatosinnato1767 3 роки тому +486

    I love how you cover the actual battle tactics and how tanks and infantry and the other arms coordinate. Because most things ive read and watched only talk about the organizational side and not the actual tactics and coordination used. Thanks to you I have a better understanding of how combined arms works

    • @PaulVerhoeven2
      @PaulVerhoeven2 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, talking about trenches is so up-to-date... have ever been any significant use of trenches in the last 75 years? Most warfare has happened in the cities/towns/villages, or mountainous terrain etc, what trenches? Especially given that with the level of artillery and aviation for many decades trenches would be just conveniently predug graves.

    • @veliest1886
      @veliest1886 3 роки тому +28

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 lmao look at ukraine

    • @paladin0654
      @paladin0654 3 роки тому

      He did.

    • @paladin0654
      @paladin0654 3 роки тому +24

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 Been in combat? Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan to name a few. When you get shot at, you dig in.

    • @the_corvid97
      @the_corvid97 3 роки тому +14

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 Iran-Iraq War was a massive case of trench warfare and that happened in the 80s.

  • @megaliidea1919
    @megaliidea1919 2 роки тому +50

    Hmm I wonder why this is re appearing in my recommended on February 24, 2022

    • @thescottishanimeguy9946
      @thescottishanimeguy9946 2 роки тому

      Beats me. Maybe cause its the day where all this build up proved worthless as the Treaty of Minsk is being signed rn, resolving all issues between Russia and Ukraine.

  • @hellhammerCCCP
    @hellhammerCCCP 3 роки тому +634

    Thank you for this. Modern russian ground forces tactics are so undercovered in the western world.

    • @medes7894
      @medes7894 3 роки тому +155

      @@azonezon3219 whaattt? 🤨 U serious? U must be brainwashed. There were only about 4,5 million killed in Red Army. And Wehrmacht was also much more crowded. Not 3,5 million Germans so.

    • @medes7894
      @medes7894 3 роки тому +102

      @@azonezon3219 can u pls give me any source?

    • @royalrhode2461
      @royalrhode2461 3 роки тому +120

      @@azonezon3219 what kind of nonsense are you spewing lol

    • @aararqaae6451
      @aararqaae6451 3 роки тому +107

      AzoneZon 321 oh my, stop trolling and go watch TIK or something, being raise on cia-backed data from German memoirs is a joke in 2020

    • @DeeplyRegarded
      @DeeplyRegarded 3 роки тому +136

      @@azonezon3219 lol no 25 million were total casualties including murdered civilians

  • @CAARaeed
    @CAARaeed 3 роки тому +229

    This channel is a really cool little lockdown boredom discovery. Great, well-researched, well-presented content. Great job, keep it up! I am looking forward to more of your modern-era stuff.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 роки тому +9

      Glad you like it!

    • @tierfuehrer2
      @tierfuehrer2 2 роки тому

      I could not help it. I had to sub on the 1st vid.

  • @F1ghteR41
    @F1ghteR41 3 роки тому +108

    6:05 Your assessment here is incorrect. This level of radar deployment goes back doctrinally all the way to the 1980's (when the US wasn't issuing that much in terms of optics as well) and is based around experiences in major exercises and Afghan war, which can be summed as: (1) low visibility conditions are encountered way too often and don't prevent enemy from offensive actions, & (2) radars are only useful when they're highly mobile, but then they give an edge to your troops. There were no portable thermal sights at that time, and even now having a radar is a welcome addition to it (see S. Korean K2 tank as a primary example). If anything, it's basically the same train of thought that brought AN/PPS-5 into US service way back during Vietnam war, and it's also true for more modern systems like AN/PPS-15.
    8:43 In theory he would carry a pistol, first APS, then PM. Since 1989 RPG gunners were given AKS-74U. In practice, though, they rearmed themselves much earlier in Afghanistan.

  • @originalpastaman5470
    @originalpastaman5470 3 роки тому +101

    One thing that I would critique about this video would be the "Meeting Engagement" being left out, with only attack and defend tactics being shown. The meeting engagement would be considered the most likely and most common form of maneuver and combat that the Russians would employ; as they envisioned future battlefields since the Cold war being largely that of maneuver of two apposing forces both on the attack against one another; with both defensive lines and contiguous frontlines of interlocking divisions side by side being a thing of the past.
    Understandably, this would be a difficult subject to pack into the video as that topic alone could constitute a whole video by itself, but would still love to see it. Apart from that, great video and information as always.

    • @dimmiheev2542
      @dimmiheev2542 3 роки тому +7

      you're right. modern combat tactics are constant maneuvers.

    • @id_Usher
      @id_Usher 2 роки тому

      What kind of stupidity? An attack is a counter fight.

  • @thecanadiankiwibirb4512
    @thecanadiankiwibirb4512 3 роки тому +54

    4:30 dude on the left does not look like a soldier while the dude on the right looks so stereotypicaly “soldier”

    • @clouster75
      @clouster75 3 роки тому +40

      Dude on the left is 18 yo conscript, and dude on the right is NCO instructor.

    • @dsheshin
      @dsheshin 3 роки тому +2

      @@clouster75 right

  • @inhuman4
    @inhuman4 3 роки тому +93

    The graphics in this video were excellent. I especially like the one showing units on the march.

  • @kevinesam
    @kevinesam 3 роки тому +65

    What a quality video! Way more in detail than our Armor school’s doctrine

  • @alexernst9448
    @alexernst9448 2 роки тому +14

    Suddenly painfully relevant. Pay attention boys and girls. This will be important later.

  • @IITJII95
    @IITJII95 2 роки тому +21

    Boy I wonder why this is popping up in my recommendations.

  • @nimajneb4156
    @nimajneb4156 2 роки тому +5

    I've been doing a lot of research into military formations and tactics for a novel I've been writing, and your videos have been exceptionally helpful in understanding how military units operate and fight. Please keep the content up!

  • @themax9913
    @themax9913 3 роки тому +83

    Motostrelki ‘80 are better than motostrelki ‘10 . Cause they cost less and can be spammed to annoy bluefor. And yes, it is a reference to the wargame series.
    Joke aside, very interesting channel i discovered just today, the video is clear and easy to understand which made me subscribe ! Great work ! Keep it up

    • @KenshiroPlayDotA
      @KenshiroPlayDotA 3 роки тому +5

      Weak Motostrelki cannot into glory of M60 men riding in GLORIOUS DESIGN OF M113 !!!

    • @pepebeezon772
      @pepebeezon772 3 роки тому +3

      Not really, motostrelki 75 is pretty bad because of the mt-lb

    • @pugsy7658
      @pugsy7658 3 роки тому +5

      @@pepebeezon772 but BMP be like brrrrt

    • @janbo8331
      @janbo8331 2 роки тому

      @@pepebeezon772 Motostrelki 75 is a good replacement for the recon tab

    • @chiken6559
      @chiken6559 2 роки тому

      both can be countered easily by Fallschirmjäger '90

  • @paladin0654
    @paladin0654 3 роки тому +166

    At Leavenworth, we referred to Soviet formations as "motorized": MRC, MRB and MRR. We were envious of the Sovs organization because they rarely had to organize for combat, as the formations contained everything the commander needed. FYI, did you consider changing the name of your channel to "Order of Battle"?

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 роки тому +1

      I think you'll find the ''MR'' in MRC (Coy, Bn, Regt) stands for ''Motor rifle''. In NATO speak: mech inf

    • @danporter1176
      @danporter1176 2 роки тому +1

      @@simonh6371 are you sure? my understanding is that theirs a distinction. like mechanized has bradleys and such.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 2 роки тому +4

      @@danporter1176 Nah. I'm just going by what we were taught late 80s in British Army studying WP Orbats, and specifically what was in Intelligence Corps publications like ''Threat'' magazine, and recognition guidebooks. Actually I was a battalion vehicle/aircraft recognition instructor for a time, as part of Bn Int Cell duties.
      Not sure what you mean by there being a distinction. Basically at Brigade level upwards (if my memory serves me right) there was only MR or armoured, if you discount airborne. In otherwords unlike NATO they had no light infantry.
      Anyways MR and mechanised is effectively the same, I'm guessing motor rifle is just a more direct translation from Russian. Where mech has Bradleys, or Warrior in Brit army, Sov MR had BMPs.

    • @danporter1176
      @danporter1176 2 роки тому

      @@simonh6371 ah thanks for the reply, I meant that the way I had it my head, was that mechanized generally means there are alot of tracked vehicles like bradleys or warrior. Cant remember where I got that from tho, could be bs

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 2 роки тому

      @@danporter1176 Mmm not sure about it being specifically limited to tracked vehicles like Bradleys or Warrior. Warrior was introduced in the 80s, prior to that as well as 432s (tracked APCs rather than MICVs) there were battalions with wheeled armoured personnel carriers like Saracen, which is an APC not a MICV, so an APC didn't have to be tracked per se. The term MICV also only came in late 80s as the doctrine changed from debussing and tabbing (tactical advance to battle) to debussing from Warriors virtually on top of the enemy. The Sovs/Warsaw Pact also mixed tracked and wheeled in motor rifle formations, not only using tracked BMPs but also BTR 60s & 80s.

  • @warlord95Sweden
    @warlord95Sweden 2 роки тому +12

    where is these Tactics & Structure now?!

  • @Schwarzgardist
    @Schwarzgardist 3 роки тому +19

    Thank you for researching and putting these information together in such an easily comprehensible way!

  • @gallivantingsprt
    @gallivantingsprt 2 роки тому +7

    I took a motostrelki forces sergeant training back in the day. And I enjoyed this video. It gives a clear picture of the most common tactics and organisation of the motostrelki. Great content! 👍

  • @richardkent7369
    @richardkent7369 Рік тому +10

    I came to see the last 8 months of comments. They did not disapoint. 🤣

  • @SantiFiore
    @SantiFiore 3 роки тому +9

    I´m REALLY glad this appeared in my Home videolist, excellent work!

  • @tommylawton6253
    @tommylawton6253 2 роки тому +12

    1 year later, this video is obsolete

  • @Cothonian2
    @Cothonian2 3 роки тому +1

    These videos are straightforward and detailed, which is a really nice change of pace. Keep up the good work.

  • @buckplug2423
    @buckplug2423 3 роки тому +63

    Cool stuff. If we're on the topic - could you do a vid summarizing Russian map symbols? I've personally found that system to be quite interesting and a lot more traditional-esque than NATO's.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Рік тому +1

      Z and V? Not so interesting as swastika

    • @user-pe8yi9uh7d
      @user-pe8yi9uh7d 2 місяці тому

      ​@@cbrefb3379 haha funny z and v we get it
      but what about actual symbols used on maps?

  • @strikingearth2947
    @strikingearth2947 Рік тому +6

    What about the TikTok battalion, looting crews, or the Chechen spray and pray teams?

  • @username100037
    @username100037 2 роки тому +27

    Well that's the theory. In real life a BTG is usually deployed in a long convoy without any support and drives directly into the enemy to get destroyed really quickly.

    • @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930
      @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 2 роки тому +9

      Imagine believing Ukrainian propaganda lmfao. Those long convoys are supply convoys but don’t let me stop you from making a fool of yourself

    • @username100037
      @username100037 2 роки тому +1

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 To do ist like the Canadians: LOL!

    • @andies9817
      @andies9817 2 роки тому

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 are supply conwoys equipped with tanks? those which were destroyed when they drive to cities in a row.

    • @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930
      @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 2 роки тому

      @@andies9817 no but did I say that? The op is talking about the long 20 mile convoys and those were of supply trucks plus a few armoured vehicles to protect them. Those convoys were not of tanks

    • @andies9817
      @andies9817 2 роки тому

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 he didnt speak anything about 20 mile conwoys, "BTG is usually deployed in a long convoy without any support and drives directly into the enemy to get destroyed really quickly."

  • @andremesot5144
    @andremesot5144 2 роки тому +1

    You're website is just........................ Amazing !!! What a work !! Congrats & respect for your wonderful job !! No words...

  • @sovietchadster907
    @sovietchadster907 3 роки тому +18

    Excellent video. Although there is one thing: Makarov pistols have almost completely been retired. The more fielded and used pistol is the MP443 Grach

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 роки тому +9

      Soviet Chadster meh, there is a ton of photographic evidence of motor rifle units using the Makarov recently

    • @student8136
      @student8136 3 роки тому +10

      Why would they be dropped? It's not a game-changer for military, pistol is there to symbolize the officers' status. Nobody will drop the good old PM until it runs out of the stocks. Modernized small arms are more valuable for internal forces, like FSB or National Guard.

    • @allianssd
      @allianssd 2 роки тому +6

      @@student8136 there is a popular officer's joke, that Makarov is given to commit suicide in case of collapse.

    • @ns7023
      @ns7023 2 роки тому +2

      @@allianssd Apparently they will be in high use now

    • @VolkovVelikan
      @VolkovVelikan Місяць тому

      @@student8136funny thing is the opposite of what you say, special forces, law enforcement and national guard use the Makarov more than the conventional Russian army does these days.

  • @kerednilon4276
    @kerednilon4276 2 роки тому +18

    Working out great...without missiles and rockets they are just rabble. Privates, led by lieutenants, yelled at by the occasional general who shows up to get droned into early retirement. Also radar won't help you when one tank in your column gets their lid popped and your whole platoon scrambles off the road into the woods like a gaggle of bleeting sheep.

  • @samgraham2110
    @samgraham2110 3 роки тому +39

    I wish I knew about your channel when I was still an Officer. I might have been able to create Tactical Decision Games with my squad leaders based on your content! Thank you again for citing your sources.

  • @ispeaku759
    @ispeaku759 2 роки тому +8

    When we were being trained as motostrelki, our commander used to tell us that in a modern warfare first you fight for about 20 minutes, then fights what remains of your body. You don't hope to survive, do you?

    • @Average-mi6ih
      @Average-mi6ih 2 роки тому +1

      Well he was mistaken. Casualties on both sides are very low rn.

    • @brokenglass9814
      @brokenglass9814 2 роки тому

      @@Average-mi6ih It's been what 5 days? The ukrainians have claimed in excess of 4000 DEAD russians. That's a lot of casualties.

    • @Average-mi6ih
      @Average-mi6ih 2 роки тому

      @@brokenglass9814 the Russians have 200k there, at least half of them are involved right now.

  • @justing.3541
    @justing.3541 3 роки тому

    Thank you as always for listing your sources!

  • @myopicthunder
    @myopicthunder 3 роки тому +14

    Love the way they are organized and self contained, everything they need is within reach.

    • @imrekalman9044
      @imrekalman9044 2 роки тому +3

      Check out a video about Soviet Microdistricts (micro-rayon)! Blocks of flats for 10-25k people, with everything you need daily (shops, kindergarten, everything except work) is within 5 minute walk, everything you need on occasion (doctors, theatre, etc.) within 15 minute walk.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Рік тому +2

      And wasting in 3-5 days

    • @myopicthunder
      @myopicthunder Рік тому

      @@cbrefb3379 what

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Рік тому +2

      @@myopicthunder are you blind? Russian BTG losing activity after 3-5 days of battle without supply.

    • @myopicthunder
      @myopicthunder Рік тому +1

      @@cbrefb3379 is that what CNN told you xD

  • @rirtunsasgi2626
    @rirtunsasgi2626 2 роки тому +21

    Tactics: None.
    Structure: Collapsing.

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 роки тому

      Glad to see all the Ukrainian Civilian casualties thus far, I hope Putin deploys a ICBM or his bombers and turns Kiev into ash and rubble. 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 роки тому

      Lol keep eating up that Reddit and Twitter Ukrainian state media propaganda buddy hahaha

    • @sharwama992
      @sharwama992 2 роки тому

      Watch military analysis of what is happening not western propaganda the Russian military has its short comings but it isn’t as incompetent as western media would like to portray

  • @dallasblog6236
    @dallasblog6236 2 роки тому +32

    It's funny, I learned more from you about the tactics of motorized riflemen than from my commanders.

    • @Sk0lzky
      @Sk0lzky 2 роки тому +11

      That's fairly common from what I've gathered, and that's regardless of where you serve. Unless you go through NCO school or higher you might as well not know what's happening.
      Hell, I've seen a clip (and heard similar stories) from Afghanistan where some freshly deployed murican kids asked their Lt "why are we doing this and that and not all firing on them" during a low intensity firefight as if they slept on basic doctrine classes. Same shit happens in proving grounds over here but that's exactly where you're supposed to learn that ><
      Like some officers will just treat their soldiers like the crayon memes are a real thing that happens all the time.

  • @RedboRF
    @RedboRF 3 роки тому +1

    criminally underrated channel. thanks mate

  • @elcormoran1
    @elcormoran1 3 роки тому +391

    A singleRussian motor rifle battalion is like a small country army

    • @brutus9195
      @brutus9195 2 роки тому +43

      Capable of kicking the ass of anyone who climbs over the fence to them.

    • @jaqenhgar2264
      @jaqenhgar2264 2 роки тому +12

      like Estonia

    • @leon19736
      @leon19736 2 роки тому +22

      That is why Chechnya kicked their ass in 1995 and in 2000

    • @lape2002
      @lape2002 2 роки тому +41

      @@leon19736 Russia kicked Chechnya's arse in 2000-2003 for GOOD! Now Chechens are part of Russian motor rifle companies lol

    • @leon19736
      @leon19736 2 роки тому +14

      @@lape2002 After loosing 10 000-15000 soldiers against 1 million Chechen.
      But Russia never valued its soldiers lives, so technically your claim is correct.

  • @fullcody1
    @fullcody1 2 роки тому +18

    tactics appear to be, stand in line and get droned

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 роки тому

      Glad to see all the Ukrainian Civilian casualties thus far, I hope Putin deploys a ICBM or his bombers and turns Kiev into ash and rubble. 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

    • @juch3
      @juch3 2 роки тому

      @@yakivpopavich haha "rouble"

  • @GMP-Official
    @GMP-Official 2 роки тому +1

    Man, I love this...its all excellence, you are a master!

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 2 роки тому

    Excellent work. Thanks for posting.

  • @scottharbeck864
    @scottharbeck864 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this information. I teach a class about this exact thing, with different sources. We seem to have very similar information, which is reassuring.

  • @robertschultz6922
    @robertschultz6922 2 роки тому +5

    For some reason they are not using the radios that are supposed to be issued by units. If they are taking civilians cell phones and are communicating with out encryption then something is not right. I can listen in to comms that are received via civil says and they are saying everything from what they had for Breakfast to where they are going. Can anyone comment on this

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I can comment. “Hahaha”. That’s my comment. Most of the radios are probably broken with nobody able to fix them, and as for those that are still working, the batteries for them probably got sold off by some corrupt officer and now they’re all getting their arses shot off by Ukrainians.

    • @RandomGuy9
      @RandomGuy9 2 роки тому

      I think they didn't have radios in large numbers.

  • @baconman2.052
    @baconman2.052 3 роки тому +18

    This is the channel I've been looking for

  • @thedoctrinetv
    @thedoctrinetv 3 роки тому +13

    Thanks for this. There are already more than enough [insert nation] WWII Organization & Tactics and Cold War Org & tactics videos. There's very little in-depth content about modern foreign forces like UK, Canada, Russia, the Ukraine, China, Japan, South Korea, etc.

  • @tommyzDad
    @tommyzDad 3 роки тому +65

    6:50: Now if game developers would build tactical games that had AI that actually dismounted and deployed like that!

    • @vercingetorix5708
      @vercingetorix5708 3 роки тому +32

      Without instantly getting run over by the driver.

    • @BobbyB1928
      @BobbyB1928 3 роки тому +9

      The Wargame series does a decent protrayal of mechanized infantry.

    • @Someone-lr6gu
      @Someone-lr6gu 2 роки тому +3

      Check out Combat Mission Shock Force 2 or Combat Mission Black Sea. You'll probably like it.

    • @janbo8331
      @janbo8331 2 роки тому +2

      "Dismount tactics DLC $50"

    • @srmen1
      @srmen1 2 роки тому +3

      @@janbo8331 the Russians clearly didn't fork out for that DLC!

  • @neilgriffiths6427
    @neilgriffiths6427 Рік тому +7

    Think this vid might just comprise the entire training regime for those shiny new conscripts Ruzzia have mobilised.

  • @spaceman9599
    @spaceman9599 Рік тому

    Great video, love the clear visuals.

  • @thomasglessner6067
    @thomasglessner6067 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the commentary.

  • @reiyin17
    @reiyin17 3 роки тому +8

    Great stuff. I've been looking for something just like this for a while now. Looking forward to you covering some VDV, Naval Infantry, or even Spetsnaz stuff.

    • @f.wallace8969
      @f.wallace8969 2 роки тому

      Spoiler alert* they all die.

    • @reiyin17
      @reiyin17 2 роки тому +1

      @@f.wallace8969 Oh, how much change a year can bring.

    • @f.wallace8969
      @f.wallace8969 2 роки тому +1

      @@reiyin17 lol, yeah. Noone factored in the wildcards.. gross incompetence and corruption.😂
      I thought they were better too...

  • @TrangleC
    @TrangleC 2 роки тому +43

    I guess we can see here were all those Russian tank losses in Ukraine come from. With the dismounted infantry 300 metres behind the tanks, they can't protect the tanks from anti tank weapons.
    They call this "Combined Arms", but it really isn't. Ultimately the different types of arms are only "combined" because they are on the battlefield at the same time, but they can't really effectively support each other this way. They just come in waves, first the tanks, then the infantry, which makes it relatively easy to take them on one by one.
    I know, I'll sound like a Wehraboo, but honestly, the Germans really do take the Combined Arms idea more seriously. Their mechanized infantry truly does fight right next to the tanks, in the same echelon, shoulder to shoulder, so to say. That is the reason why German tanks never used ERA, because the explosive armor would have posed too much of a hazard to their own infantry.
    It is also why German IFVs always had relatively puny weapons. (Mostly 20mm cannons and now 30mm, when everyone else is going for 40 or 50mm.) Their IFVs too are supposed to operate side by side and in between the tanks, so giving them bigger guns to defeat hard targets makes little sense and they rather concentrate on anti infantry armament to protect the tanks.
    I have said it many times, most armies nowadays, whether western or not, say they have a Combined Arms doctrine, but they don't really.
    Every time I say that, people accuse me of being full of shit, but information like in this video here proves what I am talking about.
    Combined Arms is when infantry protects the tanks and both tanks and infantry are supported by artillery. With the infantry 300 metres behind the tanks, it can't protect them, because that is already pretty much the effective firing range of infantry rifles.

    • @RandomGuy9
      @RandomGuy9 2 роки тому

      I thought all other armies used their IFVs like we do.

    • @TrangleC
      @TrangleC 2 роки тому +11

      @@RandomGuy9 Depends on what you mean with "we".
      There are different doctrines, even within NATO.
      Most NATO countries, including the USA, use what is colloquially called the "Battle Taxi" doctrine.
      That means their APCs and IFVs transport the infantry near the battle, disembark them and then either take some sort of over-watch position, giving fire support from afar, or they just leave the infantry altogether and go doing "cavalry work", like flanking the enemy or hunting for targets of opportunity, while the disembarked infantry does its own thing.
      The Germans don't do that. Their IFVs are supposed to always work closely together and among the tanks and the infantry, sticking together and acting as one unit.

    • @kacper9853
      @kacper9853 2 роки тому +7

      300 meters? the effective firing range of infantry rifles? Are you insane? Even the lowest possible range for the average AK-74 puts it at 500 meters effective range, and you don't need to be that close to lay down suppressive fire, which is mostly how you prevent the type of infantry manned AT weaponry you're talking about from being used. The reason the doctrine didn't work in the early stage of the war wasn't because of an ineffective doctrine (god knows ukrainians aren't the first to fight the post reform russian army) but because they invaded with like, a third? of the ukrainian numbers, and spead out over a large front, they were vulnerable to ambushes and targeted strikes on their spread out logistics line. Most people say you're full of it, cause you are.

    • @TrangleC
      @TrangleC 2 роки тому +1

      @@kacper9853 You have obviously no idea what you are talking about. Just because somebody laying on his belly or sitting at a table with the rifle on a padded vice can hit something at 500 meters does not mean somebody stumbling over a corn field in full gear can do it.
      God, I'm so sick of people in UA-cam comments blurting out cretinous nonsense.
      Now the Russians suddenly were the underdogs who invaded with a third of the Ukrainian numbers all of a sudden?
      When the invasion just started, you Russia fanboys were gloating over how superior the Russian force was, with all those charts and info graphics showing how they had 5 times as many tanks and troops as the Ukrainians.

    • @kacper9853
      @kacper9853 2 роки тому +6

      ​@@TrangleC ???? wtf are you on about "russian fanboy" russian fanboys deny that russia performed like sgit at the beginning of the war, just as they mega gloat that they're performing much better on the donbass front, even if they are only really performing up to the standard people were expecting from them at the beginning. also, the number of active russian soldiers was at 200k from the very start, I've heard literally 0 gloating from people that the russians had higher numbers, since a mobilized Ukraine instantly had the numbers advantage according to any reliable source. Those graphs you saw that said 5 times as many russians were either misinformation or someone trying to pump the numbers up for no reason. And ffs, the 500 meters range is taken as the very minimum estimate, the guy sittign on a pad perfectly still and confortable can hit further than that, something like 700 meters.
      Plus you ignore how you don't need to be at maximum effective range to scare off people trying to peek at you with a hail of gunfire, that's how suppression works.
      Nice one on doing literally nothing to defend your argument properly btw, instead saying I'm a "russian Fanboy", my roots are in Poland you diot

  • @joshreynolds72
    @joshreynolds72 3 роки тому

    Exceptional video. Glad it showed up in my random feeds. New sub.

  • @HoZhiyang
    @HoZhiyang 3 роки тому

    really enjoying this new content, please do make more!

  • @PropperNaughtyGeezer
    @PropperNaughtyGeezer 2 роки тому +6

    Mostly they park on the streetside out of fuel.

  • @briandavitmusic9421
    @briandavitmusic9421 2 роки тому +15

    >combined arms
    >russian military
    bro pick one

  • @ChristwarriorUSA
    @ChristwarriorUSA 3 роки тому

    Please make more like this. This is better quality than a real military briefing

  • @sharpsholdier
    @sharpsholdier 3 роки тому +1

    excellent work, gentlemen...well done!

  • @peterprovenzano9039
    @peterprovenzano9039 3 роки тому +27

    Thanks for the video on the post 2008 reorganization.
    I was wondering if you could get any info on a modern PLA battalion? I’ve searched a lot of places but it’s hard to find their TO&E. If you did a video on the PLA that would put me over on being a patron supporter .

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 роки тому +6

      Might have to call your bluff!

    • @peterprovenzano9039
      @peterprovenzano9039 3 роки тому +2

      I have not checked back at this video. You did an awesome job with the PLA video and I kept my word and became a patron supporter. Thanks. Keep up the awesome work. I find myself watching your videos over and over

  • @blbelt2001
    @blbelt2001 2 роки тому +70

    It's honestly entertaining to watch this following the disastrous Russian Invasion of Ukraine

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 2 роки тому +2

      Read history.
      The majority of Ukrainians east and south of the Dnieper are Ethnic Russians....They have been there since the 1780s under Catherine the Great.
      Watch Patrick Lancasters reports from the front.

    • @Bracket.
      @Bracket. 2 роки тому +11

      same thoughts. Russian infantry is good for circus only. They are constantly dying otherwise

    • @novislavdajic983
      @novislavdajic983 2 роки тому +2

      It would be disastrous if Ukraine became soviet republic once again.

    • @Bracket.
      @Bracket. 2 роки тому +2

      @@novislavdajic983 freedom or death. So there is no way for russians to extend their prison.

    • @AkeN996
      @AkeN996 2 роки тому +6

      @@rpm1796 Read some history. Russia was under the Mongolian Empire before Russia even existed. Therefore, Russia is Mongolia. 🤣

  • @QasimAlKhuzaie
    @QasimAlKhuzaie 2 роки тому +1

    I immediately subscribed after watching this video! Great job!!

  • @brandondavis7777
    @brandondavis7777 2 роки тому

    These videos and graphs help me set up platoons, companies, etc in ArmA.

  • @AKKK1182
    @AKKK1182 2 роки тому +16

    Sounded good on paper lol 🇺🇦

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 роки тому

      Glad to see all the Ukrainian Civilian casualties thus far, I hope Putin deploys a ICBM or his bombers and turns Kiev into ash and rubble. 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 роки тому

      Russia..a paper tiger

  • @IoachimSavianPopovici
    @IoachimSavianPopovici 3 роки тому +12

    This was so interesting! I'm definitely going to use this in my Arma 3 scenarios

  • @masafelipe7033
    @masafelipe7033 3 роки тому +1

    Great stuff, i love that subtle MoH soundtrack in background.

  • @robertclark1669
    @robertclark1669 3 роки тому

    Oh my God you have no idea how long I've been waiting.

  • @yashalava5729
    @yashalava5729 2 роки тому +41

    Wow, I’m a Russian soldier, and this info is insane i was interested to watch.
    Nice work.

  • @Murmelmann
    @Murmelmann 2 роки тому +40

    Would be interesting to compare it to what we see in Ukraine today.

    • @horizons3844
      @horizons3844 2 роки тому +10

      many units failed to use their communications equipment and fought like they did in ww2.

    • @ekevanderzee9538
      @ekevanderzee9538 2 роки тому

      Well, just like the video.
      Mostly, they never get beyond column formation.
      Basicay, this is not a responsive, fluid way of doing things, and their doctrine / culture goes agains individuall initiative. So when you get attached before your planned deployment, you're in trouble.

    • @jaroslavsvaha6065
      @jaroslavsvaha6065 2 роки тому +2

      @@horizons3844 From what I've heard, since their shiny new military radio depends on 4G, and since they shot down Ukrainian radio towers, they have been using cell phones for military comms. Lmao

    • @horizons3844
      @horizons3844 2 роки тому

      @@ekevanderzee9538 i thought they decentralized command after 2014 - maybe some generals haven't been as adaptive.

    • @ekevanderzee9538
      @ekevanderzee9538 2 роки тому +1

      @@horizons3844 that problem seems to take care of itself. 3 generals down and counting and units left to fend for themselves galore.

  • @klubchez5224
    @klubchez5224 3 роки тому

    Nice video! Watched during my lunch break

  • @Oxide_does_his_best
    @Oxide_does_his_best 3 роки тому +13

    A++, good point about lack of night vision optics here. Generally they compensate by using vehicle mounted optics. SNCOs are usually given weapon mounted night vision. Most Russian soldiers do not know even the basics of fighting at night and this is a terrible vulnerability

    • @user-lt4vl5zl9o
      @user-lt4vl5zl9o 2 роки тому +6

      Yes, night combat is bad for a year of service, we had 2 night shooting and 1 reconnaissance with artillery fire (this is for conscripts in artillery reconnaissance), night optics on armored vehicles, there were only 3 portable for 45 people (this is in 2014)

  • @kgthompson5814
    @kgthompson5814 2 роки тому +391

    You should really tell russia about these tactics. I don't even think they knew.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Рік тому

      they use the tactics of theft and robbery. And the tactics of total destruction.

    • @pws354_8
      @pws354_8 Рік тому +27

      They know, the problem is that they didn't constantly practice and stress using it on field training exercises or force on force training before they were deployed in Ukraine, for them to effectively use what they know on the field. In addition, the US military was able to train the troops of field training exercises with MILES laser tag gear to be effective, while Russia's troops mostly used Potemkin training.

    • @alphabears6342
      @alphabears6342 Рік тому +17

      Force on force is good exercise when in small groups and platoons. When you fight a war in a conventional way, you cannot have such force on force training. The US during the Second World War did not train everyone force on force. It’s easier to train force on force when fighting an insurgent but the same cannot be said and done when fighting a conventional army.

    • @minydoom
      @minydoom Рік тому +11

      Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake

    • @Mr.InbetweenFX
      @Mr.InbetweenFX Рік тому +10

      They had this on paper, they were supposed to have the resources to carry this out but the corruption truly fucked their actual capabilities and fortunately it doesn't compare with the projected capabilities.

  • @CitizenH1
    @CitizenH1 2 роки тому +9

    This aged like prison hooch.

  • @savelievvsergey
    @savelievvsergey 3 роки тому +6

    Quite accurate, although AKS74U is being currently phased out and replaced with standard AK-74 (or AK 100 series )

  • @joetheperformer
    @joetheperformer 2 роки тому +1

    That Medal of Honor soundtrack hits some nostalgic feels man.

  • @blackore64
    @blackore64 3 роки тому +38

    I think I saw a picture in Russian Ministry of Defence's website from one of their excercises from this year which shows a medic with regular rifle squad armed with AKS-74U in an exercise. Are Medic-riflemen possibly equipped with these in some units?

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 роки тому +18

      I don't know the full context or a lot of the nuance with regards to the AKS-74U so I can't really say. They were originally meant for vehicle crews (like a tank commander or a BMP driver, but not the gunner who got a regular rifle). Nowadays it seems they've proliferated more as a carbine for some positions but I don't know how much flexibility there is with that

    • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
      @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 роки тому +20

      AKS-74U are long out of production and used only if available. The only 'legit' rifle is AK-74M (at least until the AK-12 ), althought russian TOE's are quite fluid an can be changed on regimental/brigade commander's decision based on equipment available. At some point in the past even RPG gunners could have been armed with AKS-74U (or AKS-74 or any other more compact version of AK).

    • @cesargonzalez4146
      @cesargonzalez4146 3 роки тому +4

      @Alexandr Noskov I believe current gen weapons are bound to obsolescence, the main factor is that body armor and ballistic protection is becoming more effective, light weight and affordable by the minute, not only restricted to military and police forces but expanding to terrorist groups, insurgents and criminals, in ten to fifteen years they will surpass current gen weapons and projectiles. In my opinion is a waste of time and resources to keep spamming new weapons looking for improvements in accuracy, stability and rate of fire, things that are important but not that important. Armies will have to change not only weapons but the type of ammunition the weapons use, new kinds of projectiles, more dense, travelling at higher velocities, with a flatter trajectory, able to pierce through next gen body armor and ballistic protection.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 3 роки тому +25

      The Russian Federation very much carries on a pragmatic old Russian military practice of phasing out weapons very slowly unless they are seriously obsolete, so you will find plenty of soldiers still using AK74s and AKS-74Us. The plan is for most all soldiers to use AK74Ms, but the Kremlin is not in a rush. If you make all the few millions of guns Russia's standing army and first line of reserves need in just a couple of years, it is hard to justify keeping all those skilled workers around just to make the few hundreds of guns needed to deal with wastage as soldiers drop them in the ocean or run them over with tanks. If you make just a few-hundred-thousand weapons a year for a decade or more, you can keep a lot more experienced people around, and so the factories are much better able to expand in the event of an emergency. Also helps spread the costs out over time.

    • @markacostajr.1584
      @markacostajr.1584 3 роки тому

      @Alexandr Noskov when was this?

  • @eshdizzle
    @eshdizzle 3 роки тому +7

    Well done! I was especially interested in the Company level radar. Interesting bit of kit for the formation.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Рік тому

      Russian propaganda fairy tales- in real army no one radars

  • @garryb374
    @garryb374 2 роки тому +2

    The radar is not for compensation over lack of optics. Radar is for situations like snow storms and dust storms and heavy rain where optics are just no good. The French also have battlefield radar and their night vision optics are just fine. The radar are often mounted on support weapons like 12.7mm cal HMGs and 30mm automatic grenade launchers.

  • @morokolli8700
    @morokolli8700 3 роки тому +3

    Good document!!.. Greets from Finland!!🦅🇫🇮

  • @jwyliecullick8976
    @jwyliecullick8976 3 роки тому +5

    Actual factual content and no sloganeering. Thank you.

  • @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl
    @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl 3 роки тому +4

    Russian IFV's can swim their tanks can ford rivers by driving on the bottom (preparation required). Choke point are therefore avoided.

  • @onesones899
    @onesones899 3 роки тому +18

    Отлично рассказал быт мотострелков.Браво!

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 Рік тому

      Забыл рассказать про краденные унитазы

    • @Anubis.731
      @Anubis.731 4 місяці тому

      ​@@cbrefb3379очередной НПС прибежал

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Anubis.731готовь себе черный пакет

  • @mb-bl5yt
    @mb-bl5yt 2 роки тому +11

    "What makes it so easy to fight Russian forces is that they neither use their doctrine, nor remember to bring enough fuel past the weekend" - The Entire World Apparently

    • @teslashark
      @teslashark 2 роки тому +5

      The world wonders where is Russian supply trucks

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 роки тому

      Maybe they have two armies... One chaotic for Ukraine and one brilliant on paper... The russian army has the same level of incompetence and corruption as their industry. A Kind of Burkina Faso with rockets

  • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
    @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 роки тому +13

    Btw were are some vague rumors of battalion TOE changes since 2008 reforms. Motor-rifle brigades seem to grow from 3500 to 4200-4500 men total, possibly with addition of one extra platoon to rifle companies (but squads reduced to 7 men). Additionally AGLs seems to be divided between companies and the second BMP returns to company command squad, making 15 BMPs per company. Must not be true for regiments in divisions (they more akin to soviet-era TOE) and probably not true for every brigade. Strong rumor suggests engineer and recon squads detached from rifle battalions to form additional company in engineer and recon battalions respectively

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 роки тому +1

      Interesting. The 2nd Company HQ BMP rumor I had seen, but not the 4th platoon. I haven't seen much credible in writing so didn't feel confident reporting it

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 роки тому +1

      If true would the 2nd BMP just be the grenade launcher squad's pre-existing BMP?

    • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
      @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 роки тому

      @@BattleOrder alternatively, it can be 4 squad platoons (then that would be roughtly the same number of men for increased number of fighting vehicles). Probably true only for BMP formations then. I have zero proof on any of the facts myself anyway, so that's all just a fuel for imagination) At least reserve officer training manuals I've seen so far operates more or less old TOEs.

    • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
      @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 роки тому

      @@BattleOrder well, the last thing to leak into the internet was 'super new look' brigade which had rigle battalions without dedicated agl platoon but with 15 bmps in a rifle company. With one bmp being a agl squad vehicle, there is little room to divide other 14 bmps other than 2 at the compant command plus 4 times 3 or 3 times 4 in maneuver platoons.

    • @user-tc9sk4ei9y
      @user-tc9sk4ei9y 3 роки тому +1

      @@BattleOrder bmpd.livejournal.com/157478.html - a leak source. Btw it says 'heavy brigade', we officially have only one heavy brigade (21th guards motor rifle brigade - so called 'experimental organisation'), but since then there were number of proofs about motor-rifle brigades being 4000+ men in total (more than in 2008 TOE).

  • @MordorOrc59
    @MordorOrc59 2 роки тому +26

    I like those convoys, easy targets for turkish drones

  • @albmartinez314
    @albmartinez314 2 роки тому

    Great Breakdown!
    Also, thanks for translating the terms! This is definitely helping me with my Russian!

  • @sovietnik6091
    @sovietnik6091 3 роки тому

    What a great content!

  • @southernknight9983
    @southernknight9983 2 роки тому +7

    That was awesome info! I love learning about Russian doctrine and tactics.

    • @leef8433
      @leef8433 2 роки тому +5

      Well you can see them in action now!

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 роки тому

      As we see in Ukraine... It only theory... In reality the russian army is like a Group of incompetence uncoordinated chicken

  • @pirotess2
    @pirotess2 3 роки тому +3

    Do you planned to make video of Regiment / Brigade and Division level of Russian Motor Rifle too? Compare the difference between Regiment and Brigade in Russian structure.

  • @victorpascual1058
    @victorpascual1058 3 роки тому

    Very nice! Keep the great content coming, please. If you don’t mind, I’ve a request: could you make similar videos about other contemporary militaries? A bundeswehr or french Armee de Terre’s infantry company/battalion organization would be lovely

  • @CashSache
    @CashSache 3 роки тому

    Always good stuff

  • @jantschierschky3461
    @jantschierschky3461 2 роки тому +8

    Did not age well, in theory it looks good, however in practice is a dumpsterfire

  • @philodonoghue3062
    @philodonoghue3062 2 роки тому +38

    Watching this while the Ukrainian army is ripping the Russian armour including BMPs and infantry to shreds, this video turns out to be retrospectively academic

    • @bushido7380
      @bushido7380 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah right 😌no more videos on tik tok 🤣

    • @maxmustermann-cy9zn
      @maxmustermann-cy9zn 8 місяців тому +3

      @@bushido7380 How is your 3 day miitar special operation going?

    • @bushido7380
      @bushido7380 8 місяців тому +1

      @@maxmustermann-cy9zn 3 day?
      It took USA 20 years to occupy Afghanistan and they failed so yeah 3 days for space marines it's possible

    • @maxmustermann-cy9zn
      @maxmustermann-cy9zn 8 місяців тому +2

      @@bushido7380The US won, Afghanistan lost after the US pulled out. The entire force lost less people in 20 years than russia loses in a month

    • @bushido7380
      @bushido7380 8 місяців тому +1

      @@maxmustermann-cy9zn when did us win any war? Dude don't make me laugh

  • @geraldhng8774
    @geraldhng8774 3 роки тому +1

    Underrated channel.

  • @TheTeodorsoldierabvb
    @TheTeodorsoldierabvb Рік тому +2

    Kudos for including the "There is no better training, comrades, than fighting to survive!" theme from COD 2 :D

  • @skyrim654
    @skyrim654 3 роки тому +9

    Good stuff

  • @Dysputant
    @Dysputant 2 роки тому +6

    Meanwhile in modern Russia : JUST SEND IN KIDS !

  • @blacktoast_2158
    @blacktoast_2158 3 роки тому +1

    10:40 Russia has a variety of artillery and can vary from unit to unit but it can be divided into 3 sections: Rocket artillery, Self-propelled artillery and towed artillery. Some examples are the BM series of MLRS, The 2S19 SPG, and a Msta-B gun

  • @thomas_jay
    @thomas_jay 3 роки тому

    Very interesting. Thanks