That's a brilliant swing Bill. No chance of swaying. I'll try that tomorrow. I often check out your older videos. That corner drill you did is a game changer. Thanks👍
Hey Bill, had to follow up on my previous post. I finally got to go out and walk 9 holes after work today (was at the Wells Fargo Championship all weekend). As reference, I usually play bogey golf at best, with a few pars here and there and a rare birdie every once in awhile (nothing consistent). Well yesterday was a different story, with this new swing I shot only one over par. I had 3 birdie putts lip out with a bunch of tap in pars. The hole that I bogeyed was due to me flushing a shot straight over the pin and over the green (hit that club 15 yards further than my normal distance!). Just want to say thank you so much!! I have never played consistent good golf like yesterday!! What a reliable, repeatable swing it is!! Cannot wait to get back on the golf course!!
Hey Darryl, prof is always in the pudding. Now whatever you do don’t add or think you can make it even better. You have many more rounds of golf if you just enjoy what you’ve found with no sugar added. Thanks buddy very happy for you.
Well thanks Phil, it certainly was The most effortless 4 motions I’ve made In a while. For me I don’t need anything else to play this game at a high level for an amateur. Doing vids to help others sometimes creep into my game which my son pointed out to me hampers how I play. Yep, he’s right. In all fairness though anyone can do as I showed and improve their game 10 fold, it’s that simple as I explained to you yesterday on or phone call. Repeat what I’ve shown and start having a good time while playing it doesn’t get any easier than what I’ve shown. For those wanting more, well this isn’t the place to find that information. Sorry !!!
Awesome video Bill!! I saw this last evening. I thought, it can't be this easy. I've been watching all sorts of videos trying to improve my swing over the last 3 years. I have a bad back (previous surgery) and every thing I was doing and trying hurt to some extent. Not enough to make me give up golf though. Just been searching for something that was least painful that worked. After this video, I had just enough daylight to hit a few balls in my backyard. I grabbed my 9 iron and hit some shots. I was amazed!! I hit every one of those shots flush and straight and they all went 150 yards (I usually hit a 7 iron 150 yards if I hit it good)!! And best of all, I had no back pain with this swing!! With the corner video and this one, I think you may have changed my whole outlook on golf!! Can't wait to get out to the course!! Thanks so much!!
That made my day Darryl, just don’t add to it or take anything away from what you saw in the vid, and you should be able to play great golf painlessly. Thanks again for your reply!!
I teach about the power of the internal and external forces a lot. I try to get clients to activate the core in their preset, and they start to really feel the single unit turn.
It’s impossible to teach Doc, all we can do is explain and it’s up to them to find. No we can’t focus on which muscle group does what in the motion but the awareness to what we feel can be identified if you just pay attention. The problem is we ask them to pay attention to mechanics and positions which we both know can’t be repeated at any level on a consistent bases. What’s left? Feeling our body which is moving as a whole rather than separate parts.. that’s what great players do they feel their shots they don’t manufacture the shot. Make sense?
Yes i believe you're right, bobby Jones set up with this cupped lead hand but at impact it's not cupped anymore. Now that's Bobby's swing, are you at impact cupped or are you like Bobby flat lead at impact. It is a powerful way to move the ball and it does set you up at the top of swing. Good video because you said the truth there is nothing NEW in golf. Ty sir
Just subbed because what you're doing is correct and nothing is new in golf and you're telling the truth about it. Folks this is a very good way to swing, it puts you in perfect position at the top and just let it happen.
When the flip occurred, and you know now what I’m talking about, so does original grip. Your trail hand now is cupped and the lead wrist is flat to bowed. Right after or even during impact the process switches back to the original setup and the finish is definitely the same as setup. I will tell you why it happens and it should be there each and every time if you performed it correctly. Most people will do as they have been taught which is pull the handle through the ball to get the hands ahead of the ball. Then it all goes to hell, just the top athletes can do that and we are not top players. You were doing something that made it right and you didn’t even notice what it was that’s how automatic this swing is. I will explain in my next vid the Why it happens just understand and not have to make it happen. Your at that point of understanding and when that has been born the golf game becomes fun because if you screw up on one shot you will know exactly what happened because you will feel it and it Can be fixed the next swing instead of the range. More knowledge to follow and that’s great news .
@@Wooduck I use the cupped lead wrist at address and yes it definitely flips the cupped wrist is now the trail wrist but I just assume the cupped wrist remains until after impact. Yes I've been playing great golf for years thanks to Bobby Jones. Nobody has ever explained this before. All I know for sure is I can move the ball anywhere I want and I'm pretty long unfortunately I can't do a full back swing more like a three quarter but now that I've seen rahm it really doesn't matter cause I can move it out there. Henry cotton has a three quarter and he was good with long irons. Although there's nothing new in golf you have come upon an excellent explanation of what occurs. I have a neutral grip with the blade a little open just a touch and I bent iron two degrees flat but could go flatter. Ty for reply
@@ag358 Bingo AG, when we start to manipulate our minds that’s when we get into trouble. It’s hard to accept that it works so we go down rabbit holes trying to justify what we may think and actually its opposite as Ben Hogan once suggested. It’s time to use your feelings don’t worry about the mechanics because in reality the feelings you have that you know work produce the mechanics that no one can explain anyway. Just enjoy!!
@@Wooduck I agree, watched martin and thought I had what he was saying but it seemed to have something missing, was this just to peak interest and stretch out his channel. Idk. But you are right it's a great swing and you can't lose it as they say, you might feel a little sluggish on certain days but it still works
Bill, I can't find the video where you were on the back deck showing how the right arm opens during the downswing. It was an older video. Do you have any idea which one it was? Thanks
Where the right arms open? I don’t remember doing a vid that I said the right arm opened because I don’t know how one would open their right arm I guess. Can you give me a little more to go on than that and maybe I could help with your request. Thanks
@@Wooduck Ok, saying it opened might not be the right wording. How about the right forearm and right palm faced the sky on the way down. Think like a sidearm throw in baseball.
I tried youba but I knew o wasn’t quite where I wanted to be but now I think I’m there. No reason to retire now, not with this discovery, it must be put out there for people to see it can be that simple. I’m hitting the Cobra one lengths forged in the vids but I found a new set of 2004 KZG forged muscle backs I had back in the day which I loved so I bought them. Had them bent to my swing and I swear I can’t hit them anything but straight just like I did in 2004. Don’t just give it a go, this is the best I have to offer and anyone can do it if you just do what I show in the vids, no more no less! Thanks
@@Wooduck I'm as excited as you are abut the swing you are describing. I use to sell the KZG's back in 2001 to 2006 at Golf All Mighty in Winter Park fl. I made Ernie Els and David Frost a KZG driver back then. They are very good clubs.
@@09Youba too bad they went out of business, the irons were as good as Muzino and a whole lot less. The heads were forged In the same plant but the Muzino name called for a higher price. Yes I’m excited about what I finally boiled the swing down to after all these years. You can call it DOCF, Cmotion, Most Powerful Move In Golf, it doesn’t Matter. It’s my study of what Martin Ayers and Lee Comeaux have been presenting in all their material over the last decade. I just boiled it down to the most simplest way to move the club in a consistent manner without hurting your body. My search is done and yours should be too, it doesn’t get any easier than this. Thanks
It’s an orbit throw . Ball just gets in the way. When you take the focus off of a throw and focus on the ball … your screwed Ball just gets in the way. Why people have such a nice practice swing. Once your mind turns to the ball it’s a long day.
Hit the nail on the head Rock. Just let it happen but that is easier said than done for most people. Maybe they can train themselves to make the motion, it’s on them at this point.
@@Wooduck you can play some good golf thinking ball only. Don’t get me wrong . But you better live on the range hitting thousands of balls keeping that precision
@@ayotollaofrockandrolla7219 I haven’t got time for that much brain overload anymore Rock. For years I would hit a minimum of 500 balls a day 5 days a week lost in space, if you know what I mean. Didn’t even know what the weather was doing around me because I was so locked into what my intentions were to hit that little white ball the way I wanted. I was good but the time and effort it took to get to that level really wasn’t worth the effort. Now, I just do little thinking about the mechanics and more intention is spent on the shot. When you can do that it becomes fun because the results you’re seeking just happen and that’s about as much satisfaction I can expect anymore these days. You know exactly what I’m talking about I see it in your swing and how you play.
Why do I need lag, because someone says so. You don’t understand the club moving in a circle not a straight line, once you understand that you will forget about lag.
@@lanexang8127 hey Lane if that works for you who is anyone to tell you different. Many triggers are out there depending on the player and his or her mindset. Thanks
@@lanexang8127 that’s how we learned , we just took the best from who we learned from and threw out all the other crap. More distance, what distance are you wanting to get longer? Maybe you’re chasing something that doesn’t need to be chased. How accurate with the distance you have now?
That's a brilliant swing Bill. No chance of swaying. I'll try that tomorrow. I often check out your older videos. That corner drill you did is a game changer. Thanks👍
Glad some of the information helps Terry, I’m here to help those who want to get better, thank you 🙏
Making Golf Great Again, thanks Bill.🇺🇸👍
It’s fun if we just get out of our own way and realize we can DO!! Thanks
Make America Golf Again 2024.
@@stevenswiecki9775 that’s a good one Steven, we are loosing the younger crowd, maybe we can change that. Thanks
Hey Bill, had to follow up on my previous post. I finally got to go out and walk 9 holes after work today (was at the Wells Fargo Championship all weekend). As reference, I usually play bogey golf at best, with a few pars here and there and a rare birdie every once in awhile (nothing consistent). Well yesterday was a different story, with this new swing I shot only one over par. I had 3 birdie putts lip out with a bunch of tap in pars. The hole that I bogeyed was due to me flushing a shot straight over the pin and over the green (hit that club 15 yards further than my normal distance!). Just want to say thank you so much!! I have never played consistent good golf like yesterday!! What a reliable, repeatable swing it is!! Cannot wait to get back on the golf course!!
Hey Darryl, prof is always in the pudding.
Now whatever you do don’t add or think you can make it even better. You have many more rounds of golf if you just enjoy what you’ve found with no sugar added. Thanks buddy very happy for you.
I think that’s the most polished swing you’ve ever displayed on UA-cam! 🔥🔥
Well thanks Phil, it certainly was
The most effortless 4 motions I’ve made
In a while. For me I don’t need anything else to play this game at a high level for an amateur. Doing vids to help others sometimes creep into my game which my son pointed out to me hampers how I play. Yep, he’s right. In all fairness though anyone can do as I showed and improve their game 10 fold, it’s that simple as I explained to you yesterday on or phone call. Repeat what I’ve shown and start having a good time while playing it doesn’t get any easier than what I’ve shown. For those wanting more, well this isn’t the place to find that information. Sorry !!!
Awesome video Bill!! I saw this last evening. I thought, it can't be this easy. I've been watching all sorts of videos trying to improve my swing over the last 3 years. I have a bad back (previous surgery) and every thing I was doing and trying hurt to some extent. Not enough to make me give up golf though. Just been searching for something that was least painful that worked. After this video, I had just enough daylight to hit a few balls in my backyard. I grabbed my 9 iron and hit some shots. I was amazed!! I hit every one of those shots flush and straight and they all went 150 yards (I usually hit a 7 iron 150 yards if I hit it good)!! And best of all, I had no back pain with this swing!! With the corner video and this one, I think you may have changed my whole outlook on golf!! Can't wait to get out to the course!! Thanks so much!!
That made my day Darryl, just don’t add to it or take anything away from what you saw in the vid, and you should be able to play great golf painlessly. Thanks again for your reply!!
Amazing Bill, and so simple, thank you!
@@bustercure6118 thanks Buster, your search should be over buddy, that is as good as it gets. Have a great weekend.
I teach about the power of the internal and external forces a lot. I try to get clients to activate the core in their preset, and they start to really feel the single unit turn.
It’s impossible to teach Doc, all we can do is explain and it’s up to them to find. No we can’t focus on which muscle group does what in the motion but the awareness to what we feel can be identified if you just pay attention. The problem is we ask them to pay attention to mechanics and positions which we both know can’t be repeated at any level on a consistent bases. What’s left? Feeling our body which is moving as a whole rather than separate parts.. that’s what great players do they feel their shots they don’t manufacture the shot. Make sense?
The beauty of this motion is: The last thing that leaves the Ball is the Face. The last thing that strikes the ball is the Face. Simple!
And we all thought it was a deep dark secret but now we are finding out just how easy it can be thanks 3gts you got it man!
Thanks Bill, see at the 19th hole.
My favorite hole Tom, time for a Moscow Mule.
Yes i believe you're right, bobby Jones set up with this cupped lead hand but at impact it's not cupped anymore. Now that's Bobby's swing, are you at impact cupped or are you like Bobby flat lead at impact. It is a powerful way to move the ball and it does set you up at the top of swing. Good video because you said the truth there is nothing NEW in golf. Ty sir
Just subbed because what you're doing is correct and nothing is new in golf and you're telling the truth about it. Folks this is a very good way to swing, it puts you in perfect position at the top and just let it happen.
When the flip occurred, and you know now what I’m talking about, so does original grip. Your trail hand now is cupped and the lead wrist is flat to bowed. Right after or even during impact the process switches back to the original setup and the finish is definitely the same as setup. I will tell you why it happens and it should be there each and every time if you performed it correctly.
Most people will do as they have been taught which is pull the handle through the ball to get the hands ahead of the ball. Then it all goes to hell, just the top athletes can do that and we are not top players. You were doing something that made it right and you didn’t even notice what it was that’s how automatic this swing is. I will explain in my next vid the Why it happens just understand and not have to make it happen. Your at that point of understanding and when that has been born the golf game becomes fun because if you screw up on one shot you will know exactly what happened because you will feel it and it
Can be fixed the next swing instead of the range. More knowledge to follow and that’s great news .
@@Wooduck I use the cupped lead wrist at address and yes it definitely flips the cupped wrist is now the trail wrist but I just assume the cupped wrist remains until after impact. Yes I've been playing great golf for years thanks to Bobby Jones. Nobody has ever explained this before. All I know for sure is I can move the ball anywhere I want and I'm pretty long unfortunately I can't do a full back swing more like a three quarter but now that I've seen rahm it really doesn't matter cause I can move it out there. Henry cotton has a three quarter and he was good with long irons. Although there's nothing new in golf you have come upon an excellent explanation of what occurs. I have a neutral grip with the blade a little open just a touch and I bent iron two degrees flat but could go flatter. Ty for reply
@@ag358 Bingo AG, when we start to manipulate our minds that’s when we get into trouble. It’s hard to accept that it works so we go down rabbit holes trying to justify what we may think and actually its opposite as Ben Hogan once suggested. It’s time to use your feelings don’t worry about the mechanics because in reality the feelings you have that you know work produce the mechanics that no one can explain anyway. Just enjoy!!
@@Wooduck I agree, watched martin and thought I had what he was saying but it seemed to have something missing, was this just to peak interest and stretch out his channel. Idk. But you are right it's a great swing and you can't lose it as they say, you might feel a little sluggish on certain days but it still works
Bill, I can't find the video where you were on the back deck showing how the right arm opens during the downswing. It was an older video. Do you have any idea which one it was? Thanks
Where the right arms open? I don’t remember doing a vid that I said the right arm opened because I don’t know how one would open their right arm I guess. Can you give me a little more to go on than that and maybe I could help with your request. Thanks
@@Wooduck Ok, saying it opened might not be the right wording. How about the right forearm and right palm faced the sky on the way down. Think like a sidearm throw in baseball.
@@Grayback1973 ok I got it, let me look and when I find it I will pin it on your comment or tell you how to find it. Let search!
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I posted the link to the vid I think your talking about
does this require a split grip like that?
No, use any grip you want.
I thought you retired from UA-cam Bill. The swings looks good. I will give it a go. What brand clubs did
you get? Glad your back.
I tried youba but I knew o wasn’t quite where I wanted to be but now I think I’m there. No reason to retire now, not with this discovery, it must be put out there for people to see it can be that simple. I’m hitting the Cobra one lengths forged in the vids but I found a new set of 2004 KZG forged muscle backs I had back in the day which I loved so I bought them. Had them bent to my swing and I swear I can’t hit them anything but straight just like I did in 2004. Don’t just give it a go, this is the best I have to offer and anyone can do it if you just do what I show in the vids, no more no less! Thanks
@@Wooduck I'm as excited as you are abut the swing you are describing. I use to sell
the KZG's back in 2001 to 2006 at Golf All Mighty in Winter Park fl. I made Ernie
Els and David Frost a KZG driver back then. They are very good clubs.
@@09Youba too bad they went out of business, the irons were as good as Muzino and a whole lot less. The heads were forged
In the same plant but the Muzino name called for a higher price. Yes I’m excited about what I finally boiled the swing down to after all these years. You can call it DOCF, Cmotion, Most Powerful Move In Golf, it doesn’t
Matter. It’s my study of what Martin Ayers and Lee Comeaux have been presenting in all their material over the last decade. I just boiled it down to the most simplest way to move the club in a consistent manner without hurting your body. My search is done and yours should be too, it doesn’t get any easier than this. Thanks
Thanks Bill.
Just do it Barry, that’s about as good as us amateurs can ever do it anyway.
@@Wooduck I agree Bill,
It’s an orbit throw . Ball just gets in the way. When you take the focus off of a throw and focus on the ball … your screwed
Ball just gets in the way. Why people have such a nice practice swing. Once your mind turns to the ball it’s a long day.
Hit the nail on the head Rock. Just let it happen but that is easier said than done for most people. Maybe they can train themselves to make the motion, it’s on them at this point.
@@Wooduck you can play some good golf thinking ball only. Don’t get me wrong . But you better live on the range hitting thousands of balls keeping that precision
@@ayotollaofrockandrolla7219 I haven’t got time for that much brain overload anymore Rock. For years I would hit a minimum of 500 balls a day 5 days a week lost in space, if you know what I mean. Didn’t even know what the weather was doing around me because I was so locked into what my intentions were to hit that little white ball the way I wanted. I was good but the time and effort it took to get to that level really wasn’t worth the effort. Now, I just do little thinking about the mechanics and more intention is spent on the shot. When you can do that it becomes fun because the results you’re seeking just happen and that’s about as much satisfaction I can expect anymore these days. You know exactly what I’m talking about I see it in your swing and how you play.
@@Wooduck lotta truth in that.
Totally understand what your saying
Hey Diz, yeah brother you do!!!
If you need good practice balls Walmart has bags of 48 decent golf balls for cheap!
Thanks farout, I have about 1000 in my Budweiser wooden case, may be a while before I need Walmart.
Yeah but how do you get lag
Why do I need lag, because someone says so. You don’t understand the club moving in a circle not a straight line, once you understand that you will forget about lag.
i try , not working for me yet, always hit it fat,
If your hitting it fat your either hanging back on the back foot or throwing the angle out as you come back to the ball or a combination of both.
@@Wooduck i focus on my left hand travel toward my left tight first , then i can turn right shoulder,
@@lanexang8127 hey Lane if that works for you who is anyone to tell you different. Many triggers are out there depending on the player and his or her mindset. Thanks
@@Wooduck i want to get more distance , i am trying to learn from other people swing, that's all
@@lanexang8127 that’s how we learned , we just took the best from who we learned from and threw out all the other crap. More distance, what distance are you wanting to get longer? Maybe you’re chasing something that doesn’t need to be chased. How accurate with the distance you have now?
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