That very river itself is where I fell in love with fly fishing. It’s such an incredible and special place. I’m lucky to have it practically in my back yard. ❤ Wonderful video!
That’s awesome.. I’m in New Mexico and I love it here too.. we’ve got some beautiful places! The “San Jaun river” is gorgeous.. I would like my ashes there one day in the quality waters.
“ indubitably”.. 👍🏽🤠 God bless live well and be safe..! I’m with you 100% I was actually rolling it to the side! Actually going in a 3/4 circle! I’ve got it pretty good I get it where I want it but I’ll be darned if I knew it was that easy and that much more accurate! Love fly fishing but you really gotta learn first! Spent my first year without a bite. I was using what looked cool. I’ve written pamphlets on bait fishing. Never used a fly! Now days those suckers have no chance! I make leather lutes I’m trying to get out to be sold too.. God bless be safe out there!
Watch an old timer once while he was up against a bank while was roll casting. He was so good at it his loops looked like Os rolling for 40-50 ft across the water. There was no slop, or sag. Just perfect loops about 3 ft high rolling out. He was truly teaching me the master class at this.
A cast that I thought I'd rarely if ever use. Then I became braver & started casting from between bushes or side of bridges etc. This cast allows you to reach spots that otherwise would seem next to impossible with a fly rod. Best to ya, All! Tight lines! 😇✌️
End the forward motion with a crisp / abrupt stop while it is still fairly high (2 o'clock?). Point the tip of the rod where you want the flyline to go.
I've been fly fishing from time to time (mostly in the spring for trout and fall for steelhead).. I have never really tried "learning" much coming from spinner/baitcaster fishing.. This helps a ton. Especially fishing mostly in smaller streams where there isn't much space behind
When I first started roll casting I didn't keep the rod wide enough away from my body and rolled the fly straight into my chin. Never took the barb off. A fellow fly fisherman helped me remove it 😂
Ouch. Us older blokes don't have to keep up with the youngsters, but I suppose you could always claim it's an old-fashioned "piercing." Sorry, my attempt at humour is terrible. Be safe and well. Bob. Australia.
Man you know this whole time for years I’ve actually been doing that but trying to roll it. I actually got it pretty good but the right way seems way easier.. thanks for this! 👍🏽🤠
@@renegadeflyfishing thanks much appreciated.. hey my boy and I carve lures and bobbers from wood and cork.. he does a bunch of video game and cartoon characters. Mostly bobbers. I’m doing some bass poppers now. By chance do you have any tips on catching bass an easy way. Doing a rig with some kind of work a little above the weight works excellent! Almost a 100% when the fish are there. Not so good with a fly pole due to the weight and casting. I want my kids to feel the bass.. I know they keep on it they’ll get ‘‘em but with bait I’m already writing a little pamphlet on fishing. I’ve got a few ways that seem to work 9 out of 10.. I’d love to market the whole thing but all these people want to scam me. There’s one I started with and I’m just waiting to see it in stores. Anyway any advice you might have would be greatly appreciated.. God bless and stay safe out there!!! Yup looking for the easiest way for kids to catch bass on a fly pole.. “PLEASE”🤠👍🏽
Thanks for this, just got done spin cast fishing over in the Driftless region of wisconsin and got absolutely skunked. Was considering learning to fly fish after that. This might very well help with that 👍
@@renegadeflyfishing do you do alot of small creek fishing? If so, any tips and advice for them? I live pretty far away from good trout fishing country, so my best options near me are usually pretty narrow creeks
@@terrykrugii5652 Yeah I do a bit of fishing on small streams and when I do I use my 7' 3 Wt fly rod. That helps me from getting tangled as often and the rod is easier to wield in the tight spaces, and I'm usually not casting that far. Another unorthodox trick I've used it to take my leader off and tie on some tippet material directly to the end of my fly line about 3' to 4' with a blood knot. Just be careful not to trim off your fly line. Iv'e found I need to be a little more sneaky when fishing the small creeks because the fish seam to be a little more skittish. Hope that helps! Good luck!
Thank you for this! As a beginner fly fisherman it’s tough to get the jist messed mine up first day out but feel like due to no drag I wouldn’t have much luck! Any recommendations? I feel drag is a NECESSITY when fly fishing!
@@renegadeflyfishing thank you, good luck on your next adventures. I’ve just inherited thousands of dollars of fly fishing equipment from a guy down my block. He gave me a vice, almost material, and boxes on boxes of flies.
Might work better to stop the cast higher (10:30 rather than 9:00) so the line unrolls in the air, rather than on the water (more like a Spey cast). Practical cast, worth practicing.
Yeah that’s the one I was looking for as I fish a little river in my local area and always something that is behind catching trees and weeds so head melting 🫠
@@renegadeflyfishingyeah I caught a nice one using this method on my local river and the locals people are always saying that there is no fish in there and when they see the photos they are shocked at the sizes of them but haven’t seen any in the water and I said that’s because they see you and hide behind rocks and stuff
I am using the floating line that came on my reel when I bought it. I’ve found it depends on what your looking for, some are better in wind and some are better for more precision. Here is a useful link that weighs the pros and cons of some of the most popular fly lines designed for better roll casting, it might help you decide what line is best for your needs. 😀 flyrods.com/whats-the-best-fly-line-for-roll-casting/
Was trying to figure out how the hell people fish smaller creeks with theses. Makes sense now. Think I'm going to use my work points to order a fly setup.
You're bringing the rod tip too low on the forward stroke. That's why the line is landing first and the fly last. Stop the rod tip at about ten o'clock and the line will straighten in the air, then fall parallel to the surface.
@renegadeflyfishing kinda, mostly I'm just practicing with no extra line out sometimes with but I have a hard time holding my (ring/middle) finger to the pole to hold the line
Perhaps you have too much line on the water. Practice with 10 - 15'' of line plus tippet sticking out beyond the rod tip and add more line as you get experience.
This is pretty simple everyone. If your a fly angler and can't roll cast then your in trouble. I prefer a slightly different technique both back/front roll cast but pretty good from you
Thanks I just recent learned of the single hand spey cast and have been practicing it. Looking forward to using it to catch a fish! Thanks for the recommendation.
I learned to fly cast on the lawn at my park after watching a few basic casting videos. An old timer drove up and asked, "how's the fishing?" I said, " It sucks, I'm gonna kill the guy who recommended this place." You creators give knowledge and inspiration to people. Thank you.
It can if you cast over top of them, but what you try to do is to cast a little bit up stream and then let your fly drift down with the current towards the fish. 👍🏻
Stop doing this you lose all your energy in the big loop! When at 1 o’clock go forward horizontally as far as possible then flick forward. The goal is to use the D loop to load your rod as long as possible. The line will roll at the tip of your rod. That’s a roll cast!
@@renegadeflyfishingspin fishing or fly fishing for backcountry fishing in the moutnains, where fish and game dont feed them or plant any trout. All this included to carry on my gear for backpacking.
That very river itself is where I fell in love with fly fishing. It’s such an incredible and special place. I’m lucky to have it practically in my back yard. ❤ Wonderful video!
Thank you Nathan! That’s awesome, it’s one of my favorite places to fish! I hope we run into each other out on the river!
I know where you live
@@Ragnar918i know what you did last summer
That’s awesome.. I’m in New Mexico and I love it here too.. we’ve got some beautiful places! The “San Jaun river” is gorgeous.. I would like my ashes there one day in the quality waters.
@@BadCompany410Hell yeah
As a true beginner thank you for this.
You’re welcome!
@@renegadeflyfishingme to thank you
That makes so much sense. Thanks for the quick tutorial!
You’re welcome glad you liked it! 😀
“ indubitably”.. 👍🏽🤠 God bless live well and be safe..! I’m with you 100% I was actually rolling it to the side! Actually going in a 3/4 circle! I’ve got it pretty good I get it where I want it but I’ll be darned if I knew it was that easy and that much more accurate! Love fly fishing but you really gotta learn first! Spent my first year without a bite. I was using what looked cool. I’ve written pamphlets on bait fishing. Never used a fly! Now days those suckers have no chance! I make leather lutes I’m trying to get out to be sold too.. God bless be safe out there!
Watch an old timer once while he was up against a bank while was roll casting. He was so good at it his loops looked like Os rolling for 40-50 ft across the water. There was no slop, or sag. Just perfect loops about 3 ft high rolling out. He was truly teaching me the master class at this.
The most useful cast of all.
😄
Now that’s some good intel! I’m still learning and that roll cast would work great in my local creek. Thanks for putting this out!!!
You’re welcome! I’m still working on perfecting it myself!
Love it. Gonna use this trick on the tight rivers with no space to cast from behind due to brush
Awesome, it helps a lot and you won’t get your line snagged on trees or bushes as much! 👍🏻
. So do roll casts😂
straight to the point, good lad.
Thank you!
Yep! And no music!!
Thank you sooooo much. I’m a beginner and this is so great advice
A cast that I thought I'd rarely if ever use. Then I became braver & started casting from between bushes or side of bridges etc. This cast allows you to reach spots that otherwise would seem next to impossible with a fly rod.
Best to ya, All!
Tight lines!
😇✌️
I learned it from this video! Thanks
Awesome! I hope it helps you catch some fish!😀
Good video. Different perspectives perfect.
Thank you!
End the forward motion with a crisp / abrupt stop while it is still fairly high (2 o'clock?). Point the tip of the rod where you want the flyline to go.
Thank you for the tip I will give that a try! 😄
Thanks for teaching me this!
You’re welcome! I hope it helps you catch some fish😄
O al very very true beginner, learning the very basic of fly fishing. Thank you for useful this tip.
Your welcome! I hope it helps you catch more fish!
Great video on how to do the roll cast! Thanks
Thanks!
Wow that's awesome Sir great info
Thanks!
My go to cast
Nice, it’s very helpful!
Nice clear vid. Thanks
You’re welcome! Thanks for your kind comment.
I've been fly fishing from time to time (mostly in the spring for trout and fall for steelhead).. I have never really tried "learning" much coming from spinner/baitcaster fishing.. This helps a ton. Especially fishing mostly in smaller streams where there isn't much space behind
Awesome! I use it a lot in this tight creeks and smaller streams. Good luck!
This was so helpful great stuff 👍
Thank you so much! It means a lot to hear that it was helpful!
Awesome, thank you!
When I first started roll casting I didn't keep the rod wide enough away from my body and rolled the fly straight into my chin. Never took the barb off. A fellow fly fisherman helped me remove it 😂
Oh man that would be painful! 😖
Ouch.
Us older blokes don't have to keep up with the youngsters, but I suppose you could always claim it's an old-fashioned "piercing."
Sorry, my attempt at humour is terrible.
Be safe and well.
Bob. Australia.
Thanks! Help a lot when fishing with a lot of brush.
You’re welcome, yes it does
Thank you so much. Always worried if there is stuff behind me to get snagged on. Love it.
You’re welcome!
Old man was teaching me to full vast. I showed him a roll cast and he was like “dang you got a good roll cast
Thats awesome!
Seems like this might be helpful in windy conditions
Oh yeah!
Man you know this whole time for years I’ve actually been doing that but trying to roll it. I actually got it pretty good but the right way seems way easier.. thanks for this! 👍🏽🤠
Hey you’re welcome! That’s cool you figured it out naturally too!
@@renegadeflyfishing thanks much appreciated.. hey my boy and I carve lures and bobbers from wood and cork.. he does a bunch of video game and cartoon characters. Mostly bobbers. I’m doing some bass poppers now. By chance do you have any tips on catching bass an easy way. Doing a rig with some kind of work a little above the weight works excellent! Almost a 100% when the fish are there. Not so good with a fly pole due to the weight and casting. I want my kids to feel the bass.. I know they keep on it they’ll get ‘‘em but with bait I’m already writing a little pamphlet on fishing. I’ve got a few ways that seem to work 9 out of 10.. I’d love to market the whole thing but all these people want to scam me. There’s one I started with and I’m just waiting to see it in stores. Anyway any advice you might have would be greatly appreciated.. God bless and stay safe out there!!! Yup looking for the easiest way for kids to catch bass on a fly pole.. “PLEASE”🤠👍🏽
Great tip tyvm👍
You’re welcome! 👍🏻
Thank you, suscribed. I just caught my first to rainbows fly fishing. Loving it so far. I've been fishing since I was a kid
You’re welcome, that’s awesome, thanks for subscribing!
Awesome dude.
Thanks!
Use this a lot on small midwestern spring creeks. Very tight quarters on most of them.
It’s a great cast to have in your bag of tricks!
Merci 🎉 for the Education !!!!!
You’re welcome!
Beautiful roll cast
Thank you!
Lol. Push out 80 ft. That’s a short roll
Need to add this to the arsenal
Thanks for this, just got done spin cast fishing over in the Driftless region of wisconsin and got absolutely skunked. Was considering learning to fly fish after that. This might very well help with that 👍
You’re welcome! Fly fishing is a lot of fun, I definitely recommend giving it a try. Best of luck!
@@renegadeflyfishing do you do alot of small creek fishing? If so, any tips and advice for them? I live pretty far away from good trout fishing country, so my best options near me are usually pretty narrow creeks
@@terrykrugii5652 Yeah I do a bit of fishing on small streams and when I do I use my 7' 3 Wt fly rod. That helps me from getting tangled as often and the rod is easier to wield in the tight spaces, and I'm usually not casting that far. Another unorthodox trick I've used it to take my leader off and tie on some tippet material directly to the end of my fly line about 3' to 4' with a blood knot. Just be careful not to trim off your fly line. Iv'e found I need to be a little more sneaky when fishing the small creeks because the fish seam to be a little more skittish. Hope that helps! Good luck!
@@terrykrugii5652 Oh and sometimes using the Bow and Arrow cast can help get the fly where you need it.
Can you “lay your rod down” to the side in case the trees are in the way?
I’m new so I’m just trying to get an idea on how to fish the tight creeks 😅
I’ve never tried it. Not sure if it would work. I’ll have to give it a shot and let you know.
Thanks I live in tight casting conditions
You’re welcome I hope it helps you catch more fish!
Look up spey casting.
Thank you for this! As a beginner fly fisherman it’s tough to get the jist messed mine up first day out but feel like due to no drag I wouldn’t have much luck! Any recommendations? I feel drag is a NECESSITY when fly fishing!
I needed this because I’ll be fishing the Pete Marquette in pentwater
That’s awesome, good luck!
@@renegadeflyfishing thank you, good luck on your next adventures. I’ve just inherited thousands of dollars of fly fishing equipment from a guy down my block. He gave me a vice, almost material, and boxes on boxes of flies.
Please remember wear eye protection when practicing. Sunglasses, glasses. No matter how good you get at fly fishing things can still go wrong.
Nicccee I’ll have to try it next time I was getting hung up constantly
It’s a game changer on where you can fish!
Might work better to stop the cast higher (10:30 rather than 9:00) so the line unrolls in the air, rather than on the water (more like a Spey cast). Practical cast, worth practicing.
Yeah I think you’re right!
Great camera work. Makes sense now
Thank you my wonderful wife was filming with a camera in one hand and an iPhone recording slow motion in the other hand. Glad it helped!
Good idea
Thanks
I was practicing this just yesterday
Nice!
Thanx
Is this Wyoming?
It’s in Colorado
how does that work when roll casting from downstream to up stream across your body?
Great question I’ll make a video and post it showing what I do.
Nice!
Thank you!
I really regret not getting into fly fishing when I was younger 😞😞😞
It’s never to late!
Nice bro appreciate
Thank you!
Now ima go practice
Right on!
Yeah that’s the one I was looking for as I fish a little river in my local area and always something that is behind catching trees and weeds so head melting 🫠
Great, yeah snagging a tree or bush is no fun! Good luck!
@@renegadeflyfishingyeah I caught a nice one using this method on my local river and the locals people are always saying that there is no fish in there and when they see the photos they are shocked at the sizes of them but haven’t seen any in the water and I said that’s because they see you and hide behind rocks and stuff
Dude I hooked my leg so hard when I did this the first time
Oh no, lol
What do you use sir for weight, I can't cast fly line well becuse very light
I use a 5 wt rod, try leaving more line out on the water when you roll cast, that might help. Good luck!
@@renegadeflyfishing thanks sir, you are so kind.
@@RI-fp7bw you’re welcome! ☺️
About how far can you reliably roll cast?
Good question, I haven’t tested my limit but I roll cast about 30’ regularly. Good idea for a video, see how far I can roll cast.
Do you use a weight forward line? Thinking if getting whatever line is best for roll cadting for my small stream rod. Any suggestions appreciated!
I am using the floating line that came on my reel when I bought it. I’ve found it depends on what your looking for, some are better in wind and some are better for more precision. Here is a useful link that weighs the pros and cons of some of the most popular fly lines designed for better roll casting, it might help you decide what line is best for your needs. 😀 flyrods.com/whats-the-best-fly-line-for-roll-casting/
The water was like "Massah!"
like using a whip is the concept?
Was this on the red deer river? Or where was it. Thanks
This is on the gunnison river in Colorado
Do you haul while roll casting?
No, I either pinch the fly line against the rod or leave it tight on the rod.
Was trying to figure out how the hell people fish smaller creeks with theses. Makes sense now. Think I'm going to use my work points to order a fly setup.
Right on! What fly rod are you looking at buying?
@@renegadeflyfishing probably the orvis Clearwater 5wt 9'.
Oh man! That how I used to do it when I was learning how to cast a fly. My kids used to tell me “dad, thats no how you do it!” 🤭
You were a natural at roll casting!
You make it look easy 🤣
Thanks, I’m still learning and practicing. Good luck 😀
You're bringing the rod tip too low on the forward stroke. That's why the line is landing first and the fly last. Stop the rod tip at about ten o'clock and the line will straighten in the air, then fall parallel to the surface.
Thank you! I will give that a try!
it’s kinda like flipping the garden hose through the grass as a kid, after watching your parents do it to move the hose over once.
Yes!
This is where I go fish to get skunked😍😆
😆 haha! I’ve been skunked there a few times, but also caught my personal best brown trout there. Usually it’s somewhere in between.
Does this work with bamboo, too?
I’ve never tried it with bamboo but it should work.
Yes. It is one of the best casts for learning the "feel" of a new bamboo rod.
Is that the virgin river
No, it’s the Gunnison river
Cool
Thanks!
I do this but it ends up laying in a pile
Do you leave some line laying on the water, before you cast forward?
@renegadeflyfishing kinda, mostly I'm just practicing with no extra line out sometimes with but I have a hard time holding my (ring/middle) finger to the pole to hold the line
I've only been fly fishing for a year now
Perhaps you have too much line on the water. Practice with 10 - 15'' of line plus tippet sticking out beyond the rod tip and add more line as you get experience.
Whippin it
Oh yeah
Learn how to single hand spey cast. It will Super charge your roll cast!!!
I’m going fishing in the morning and I’ll give it a try! Thanks for the recommendation!
I can’t cast good when it’s windy
Yeah the wind makes it tough!
Tehnik mancing yang saya ingin pelajari unik, tapi setelah melihat lihat harga pirantinya saya pikir pikir lagi😅😅
This is pretty simple everyone. If your a fly angler and can't roll cast then your in trouble. I prefer a slightly different technique both back/front roll cast but pretty good from you
Do you use the one handed Spey cast?
indiana jones approves this. Its like a whip action ☺️
Oh yeah!
Learn how to Spey cast with a single handed rod, that will Super-charge your roll cast!!!
Thanks I just recent learned of the single hand spey cast and have been practicing it. Looking forward to using it to catch a fish! Thanks for the recommendation.
I learned to fly cast on the lawn at my park after watching a few basic casting videos. An old timer drove up and asked, "how's the fishing?"
I said, " It sucks, I'm gonna kill the guy who recommended this place."
You creators give knowledge and inspiration to people.
Thank you.
That’s a great reply to “how’s the fishing”! Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your kind words!
Litteraly doesnt work for me idk why
Keep at it and you’ll get it, it helps to have a good bit of your line out on the water holding some surface tension on your line! Good luck 👍🏻
Doesn’t work for me I’m using a 9’ rod with an Orvis Battenkill reel I can’t roll cast to save my life :(
Keep practicing and you’ll be able to get it! 😀
Doesn't that scare the fish more
It can if you cast over top of them, but what you try to do is to cast a little bit up stream and then let your fly drift down with the current towards the fish. 👍🏻
Somehow big streamers don't roll that nice .
Have you tried using a single handed spey cast? It’s more dynamic. But with similar benifits of the roll cast.
I did this on accident and called it the sharpshooter
That’s awesome!
As a gunsmith and a Marine, I like that name. I'm just going to call it that.
😮
Anyone spot the ufo
Jesus loves us all and saves! God bless! ❤
POV: how to use a whip🙃🤣
🤣 hahaha
Stop doing this you lose all your energy in the big loop! When at 1 o’clock go forward horizontally as far as possible then flick forward. The goal is to use the D loop to load your rod as long as possible. The line will roll at the tip of your rod. That’s a roll cast!
*promo sm* 😁
No thanks
Yeah but you have to get your line all the way out there first to begin with so that means you had to have room to cast it to begin with
No. You can do a series of progressively longer roll casts.
Actually you shouldn’t make an arc with the rod then the line will be completely in the air
The rod tip shall stay high
How much leader lime should I have ?
Hi Connor, I use a 7-9’ leader and use about 18” of tippet depending on the situation.
@@renegadeflyfishingspin fishing or fly fishing for backcountry fishing in the moutnains, where fish and game dont feed them or plant any trout. All this included to carry on my gear for backpacking.
Can’t wait to catch other species congrats man🔥🔥I got some awesome trout🎣 today please check it out.
Thanks man, congrats on the trout!