A SMART Helmet WORTH OWNING! 509 Mach V Commander Review
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
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Smart helmets are usually too expensive, and don't have features that justify the price. Finally, 509 has made a Smart helmet worth owning. Today we review the Mach V Commander powered by Cardo.
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00:00 - Intro
01:13 - Unboxing
02:05 - First Impressions
05:35 - Road Test
11:16 - Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
Does this count as a smart helmet? Check out the Mach V Commander here: bit.ly/49m9o9a
anybody else find it scummy that they jack the price after running a digital marketing campaign and not telling the reviewers ... ?
I haven't seen anything on the market yet that would compel me to buy a "smart helmet". I would like some high-tech features that actually enhance my safety and comfort: a HUD that displays information I _don't_ already have, like collision warnings and a wide-angle rear-view camera. An electronically darkening faceshield would be cool. Active noise-canceling so I can ditch the earplugs and enjoy music. As it stands, looking at what the segment offers: I already have comms, I could add a brake light if I wanted one, and I don't see the value of putting my speedo/nav in a crappy HUD when that's already right in front of my face. All this stuff adds weight, as you mention, and you don't realize how fatiguing a heavy helmet is on longer rides until you switch to a lighter one. My current street helmet is a Neotech 2 and though it's great overall, I don't think having a modular is worth the weight penalty (for me) and I plan to go back to a standard full-face when it's time to retire this one. So any "smart" features are going to be a hard sell for me, and had better justify the ounces (not to mention, yet another thing to charge).
No way.
How the hell is this called a 'smart helmet'? IT has built in blue tooth. Is my car a smart car because it connects to my phone? Do I need to call my airpods 'smartpods' because they connect to my phone? There's nothing 'smart' about this helmet. It may be a very nice helmet, but it's not a smart ANYTHING. It doesn't do anything on it's own that a normal helmet with premium features and a cardo added to it don't do. And in 2023, I don't consider 'built in bluetooth' enough to call a device smart.
Until there's a helmet out there with some actual 'smart' functionality, this entire classification is just a waste. I want a hud. I want to be able to pull up waze from my phone and see it on my visor. I want to see who's calling and then be able to use voice commands to answer if I want to. I want a built in dash/reverse cam. I DON'T want a little block that has to sit a quarter inch from my eyeball to do all of the above...and I'd like it in a helmet that doesn't necessarily have to be the 'most comfortable in class', but should be tolerably comfortable and quiet enough to actually USE the features.
Not a “smart helmet” and only DOT certified which is such a low standard it means it can’t be sold in many markets across the world. So it’s pretty much a comms unit pre fitted into a cheap helmet.
bad helmet and bad review of the helmet
My guy, you might have Gout. If you can't think of what might have caused it, go to a doctor and get a blood test to check your uric acid levels. I'm saying this because when I was around 27 I learned I can get it for the exact same reason. My ankle started hurting and I had no idea why. Turns out it was gout. So definitely get it checked out earlier rather than later.
Hello my 27-year old gout brother
@@behmer1879 well, I'm 37 now, but wanted to tell him what it might be.
OH hell, we gout-ed
I second what @blade said….. i had gout since 23 yrs old started out the same while i was in the military in perfect fitness shape !
You’re not wrong
Fidlock is definitley one of my selling points for 509 in general. I love how quick and easy it makes the helmets to take on and off.
also fidlock should also be relativly safe, cuz in other communitys they are pretty known for their safety, i even have a friend who makes motorcicle bags who uses fidlock stuff
For me the Fidlock is a big plus. I had d rings on my first and now have a Fidlock fastener. I love it, and it’s never come undone on its own (however on the rare occasion I forget to do it up, I can fasten it with on hand. I can’t even do a double D with two gloved hands).
I think it's a safety issue, because double D rings are known to be the strongest. I only drive with double D rings because of that. also can't fasten them with gloved hands but usually when I want to take my helmet off I'll take my gloves off as well
I get the advantage, but I think it's still worse than a double D. Because most people are lazy and don't adjust their chin strap before every other ride, and a loose chin strap is a hazard, whereas with a double d you get a tight chin strap every time. For that reason alone I would never ever consider a Fidlock
@@MaxAndHisBike I feel like I’ve never had my strap become more loose unless I’ve done so intentionally because I’m wearing a thick head and face covering for the cold. Otherwise it stays as tight as I put it all the time.
@@deathownme Fortnine did a strength test, iirc fidlock was 2nd place behind DDs. But to be honest, a crash strong enough to break it will likely kill you anyways
@MaxAndHisBike if ppl are too lazy to adjust their strap when it gets loose they may likewise be too lazy to fasten their DDs. And honestly that's on them 😅
The audio quality of this setup is amazing.
Regarding the lack of D rings, pretty sure ECE 22.06 tests strap retention, so as long as it’s certified, I welcome more easy to use straps
Yup, it's a 3 kilo newton test without breaking and deforming, opening and closing normally after the tests (And if the testing helmet is modular then they test this both in open and closed positions).
Plus, unlike DOT (Fuck DOT, outdated piece of shit standard) helmets are actually tested before being certified.
It could be really cool if the two red plastic arrows could be connected wire less to the indicators too. Plug in a transmitter on your bike and have a small receiver and a battery in the helmet.
Yes!
I was hoping for the exact same thing. Or even a brake light that could be activated through g force sensors... Not to be unfortunately
Agree too! But I don’t understand why they put the two red plastic bits there without any lights? Was it supposed to work in an updated model?
@@darylclifford I wonder if they originally envisioned them to be lights, but didn't get that part done in time or had a lot of bugs. Result could be the helmet shell was already done and they decided to just leave the red reflectors in. Hopefully 509 sees that we would love to see this working in the future and will develop this further.
Absolutely agree
I look forward to a day helmets have front and back safety camera integrated for accident and police encounter protections. I think cam tech is good enough for this to happen, and it would be cool if it can all be synced with your phone.
Forcite helmets got one camera. Still waiting on a dual camera system
Police encounter protection? Here's an idea... Don't act like a douchebag when you get pulled over and do what you're asked. You won't need protection.
@@ryanturner3432 tell that to the people who are in jail or dealing with charges that are 1. a huge stretch, and or 2. was set up. There's videos all over of cops saying and doing things to get you to incriminate yourself or admit to thing you didn't ever do. Now yes don't act like a douche but in todays world, even innocent people are getting in trouble.
@@ryanturner3432Here’s a hint about life: Nobody likes a bootlicker. It’s not good for you or anyone else. So quit licking’ those boots.
I wish I had my only ever police interaction on a bike. I kept myself in check. But he was begging for a beating. A go pro woulda got me paid for sure. This was in 2009 though.
Hey Spite, excellent review of the Mach V Commander! Hit the nail on a head with most of the pros and cons. With that whistling sound, it could be the vent, but also make sure the visor is fully latched down. When I got mine and swapped in the Gold Visor, I found that I have to apply some downward pressure to the center before it gives a firm click to lock in and seal. if you try to pinch it near the chin, it won't click no matter how hard you squeeze. Otherwise the only things I hear are wind, my jams, and the sweet supercharged cacophony of my H2SX. I just wish 509 would get a Transition visor developed for it, but we can't have everything I suppose. Hopefully in the future!
Me with a 80$ helmet watching what i can't afford.💀
Me watching, wondering if I can find the Devil's plateau, start up Airwolf and go for a flight with guns blazing./
Props to you for being honest and fair with your reviews. We need more of this type of reporting on YT in general, and I think it's a big part of the reason you've got the followers you do. Keep it up. Even when we don't agree with you (ahem Versys 650), it's great to get your true thoughts and feelings.
I've been rocking the non Commander version of the helmet this season. Switched to this over my Icon. A little noisy at speed but I like it a whole lot.
$130 Price increase is one hell of a jump in less than a month... Apparently this company doesn't know that they're supposed to slowly increase the stove top temperature ( small increases in price over time ) if they want to boil a frog alive without it jumping out of the pot of water
$799 now, lol, what a joke.
The company that makes them in china will release its own version soon for $100 Bucks lol
Mach V Commander sounds like something you order that "ships discretely"
The ruroc has a fidlock and that was my introduction to it.
I was massively against it for a while but i cant fault it, apart from trying to line up the magnets can be a bit fiddly but thats it.
Watched a video of a motorcycle being held up off the ground by a fidlock and it was solid.
A D-ring can still withstand double the force/weight though. There's a good reason they don't allow these on the vast majority of tracks. Sustained weight is one thing but sudden violent force from a serious accident above 100+ mph where impacts can be well over 10G's I'm not trusting anything but a D-ring closure.
No, it's because no one has spent the millions of dollars to get it certified. It's a big investment to get your product cross certified
@shauns5278 to be fair, though, if you are having a crash at 100+ mph and experiencing 10Gs, you are most likely dead. But I get what you are saying.
@@shauns5278 I personally think crashing in those circumstances on a road situation is a bit crazy but everybody rides differently.
I, for one, would wear very different gear on a track day compared to riding on the road.
No offense intended, but Ruroc helmets are not good helmets. I'll stick with an Arai or Shoei....
I think the chase light being on all the time is a good one I think it should flash as you slow giving the best of both worlds
when I hear a whistling sound on my helmet, I just tilt my head down about 5-10 degrees and it goes away. This can also be fixed by just pulling down on the chin part of the helmet so that it sits at a lower angle on your entire head. You can test this by nodding "yes" as you ride, and you can hear the whistle go away and come back.
Great video. I emailed them a while back here is what they said:
Origin made: China.
How many shell sizes: Only 2.
Materials: It's polycarb.
It is indeed heavy.
Personally, I would not pay this much money for a polycarb helmet and only 2 shell sizes.
2 shell sizes for 5 helmet sizes. Isn’t that pretty standard?
@@stanliterman24 for cheaper helmets yes. This is helmet over $600.
Are you taking into consideration how much a Cardo system is?
As well as the unique ear pressure sealing?
Basically, it's a $300 helmet. @benvu4416
Cool ideas and a good first try. I will def look out for the Mach VI
I had a horrible ankle injury, it was sore forever, around 1 year and i couldn't rest it because I had to work. I bought some things, none worked. I spent a lot on a lace up ankle brace with some Velcro that keeps my let from twisting. Get one of those, they're slim, you can wear it in your shoe and my ankle was almost perfect in 1 week. and perfect in about 2 weeks. if it worked with my ankle, it'll work for yours. mine was swollen almost as big as my calf.
The fidlock is great. Wish it was on all my helmets.
I love the idea of the 509 Mach V Commander, or the Forcite MK1S Smart Helmet, or the Shoei Opticson, or any other helmet with built in Bluetooth audio, action/dash cam and/or Heads Up Display. Te biggest problem though is that if the helmet suffers a big knock, either from a crash or just falling off a high shelf, then all that tech goes in the bin along with the damaged shell. Kudos to 509 for realising, unlike the others, that their specialty is making helmets & farming out the tech to one of the best in the industry. However, my money goes straight to the first helmet manufacturer that makes an ECE 22.06 helmet with an integrated GoPro mount, recessed mount point to fit most Bluetooth communicators & channels for Heads-Up glasses temples to comfortably fit & wear.
Very true, but from what I'm looking at you'll be able to move the cardo from one Mach V to another
@@spitescorner That would be awesome if they sold replacement shells. Now, about that integrated GoPro mount.....
Forcite can swap your camera to a different shell If damaged, I have the MK1S and it's pretty damn good.
@@damianwykman968 Great news, but it doesn't improve the quality of the camera. I'd much rather have an integrated GoPro mount in the chin so that I can add my own camera.
Damn good vid. I look forward to their redesign and your review of that helm.
I own a 509 helmet as its one of the few helmets in 4xl. I like fidlock as well ,although i never liked d rings( always got the buckles). Disappointed they didnt make these in the bigger sizes.😂
My thoughts the two reflectors (R) & (L) right and left possibly be integrated into the turn signals of the bike and the illuminated light bar turned into a break indicator. Better than the D- ring idea the Zip lock type closure would be ideal. As far as the guitar collection I would recommend a few Jacksons’ they just look better IMO…
Your the only person I've ever heard say they don't like the fidlock, everyone I know with it loves it. I love it.
inflating ear muffs is a nice touch. that would help solve a lot of wind noise in most if not all helmets or maybe something like aviation head set muffs those block noise so well.
Klim helmets have had this fidlock strap system for years. If it wasn't solid, we probably would have known by now. I didn't think much of it at first but it's such a great feeling to be able to get your helmet strapped with gloves on really quickly. Also taking it off is so much faster if you don't have to take off your gloves every single time. It seemed like a gimmick but it has become one of the best things about my helmet.
Yeah, it super weirds me out when reviews are just like "here are all the positives, no negatives... I hate it" like wtf. At least say why you don't like it and if it's just "not 50 years old" that's kind of a shit take considering you're looking at a helmet with built-in comms
I agree, Ruroc does it too. I have a helmet with a standard D Ring and a Ruroc. The Ruroc gets chosen just about every time for many other reasons on top of the fidlock... But I do have faith that they have tested this technology in a crash. As long as it is safe and tested, hating on this feature makes no sense to me. Like you say, you can still secure it with gloves on if you forgot to before you put your gloves on when you start, and you can take your helmet off in less than a second with gloves on when you're done.. Can't teach an old dog new tricks type thing I guess. Sorry Spike :D
It probably is safe but I too would not feal great thinking I might undu it mid drive by accident. As a european driver I just love the ratchet locking, it's sturdy and easy to open with my gloves on but it would never happen by misstake. Tried ring locking and hated it coz it takes more time/more fiddly.
@@peterhallbus1114 I think it'd be tough to accidentally unlatch tbh
@@motomitch maybe it is, would be nice to try myself
I switched to the AGV Tourmodular and it has the Cardo Insyde Intercom, which is basicly a Packtalk slim integrated in the helmet.
I bought myself a sena impulse which is a modular helmet with a cardo built in, it also has a light on the back and the microphone and speakers are harman kardon, absolutely awesome helmet
Helmet recalls , for a chin strap u have to keep adjusting. Accessories for brake light blue tooth switch . And does it have voice w/ voice choices ? 🤔 Some LED patterns for both sides top and neck lines .. ✓ voice activation module for ignition ..done 🥸
Metalocalypse reference.
Great video and I like the new camera angles. Loved this review, spite! But this helmet is a hard pass. The biggest design feature is one of the worst parts. That peak prevents chinmounting a camera, looks like it will be in your vision when up, and doesn't give any more vision. The cardo is cool but you can't quick swap between helmets, carry it over to a new helmet after you retire this one, or bring it inside to charge. And the light just adds weight for no more benefit than a reflector would provide. I would put this into the gimmick category that prioritizes looks over function. At least it's ece and the air pump fit is a good idea
I'm still looking for the "smart" part of it, was it the light??
integrated cardo and the rear light yeah, think so @@Fretzton
Just looks cool, that's about it?
I was wondering if that price would stay. The inflating ear cuffs and the cardo interface are definitely the two features I was most interested on. But like you said, with the price bump, the brow vent and short speaker cable need to be fixed.
A flashing mode for the rear light during breaking periods would be great, and some sort of blinker interface with the two red plates in the back would elevate it even more.
Unless the helmet is connected to the bike, how the hell is the light supposed to flash when braking?
@@ryanturner3432 ✨ magic ✨
@@ryanturner3432 all seriousness, the "brake free" modules that are installed on helmetd light up as a bike is slowing down. Probably uses some sort of acelerometer to sense the change in speed. Works without being connected to the bike.
i reckon they could make an optional extra with the rear lights by having those lights connected to the bike by bluetooth, thus u can have brakes, blinkers n running lights too....chin strap could also be an option on order wqhere u choose which type you prefer
I have a pump version and it was less than $300. I saw helmets where the backlight works with the taillight braking. My wife loves the D-rings and won't get a helmet that has anything else. There was a review spot for looking at that I would think should be added for the price. Cardo is great as my wife and I use it. The upper vent is the angle at which the wind comes across it. They need to just move it slightly forward which should change the angle and prevent the sound.
I like the look of the helmet when its got a dark visor on it. I'm not digging the giant visor trend from the Icon helmets. I do like the idea of headphones in the helmet and not speakers persey. 509 has advertising all over the gram and the venting system looks interesting, but I don't know if I want to spend that much on a helmet just to have a helmet with a differentsound system in it and lights up. I get premium comes at a price, but to a street rider, I'm less convinced. The fidlock buckle is awesome. I repeat FIDLOCK IS AWESOME. Have had it on both Rurocs I've owned and its far better than the D-rings on previous helmets and has never come undone without me wanting it to.. This adherence to D-rings is weird at this point when you can have a better magnetic option. Maybe if I trash my current helmet, but not as a swap out of nowhere. Cool helmet though.
Great review man!
great job spite. keep it up.
Love your vibe man. Cheers.
I just rode with my identical Commander Mach V for the first time yesterday and I agree with pretty well everything you mentioned! My main criticism of the helmet is that the Cardo is so low profile I’m always missing the buttons and having a tough time finding them.
Ps I also hear that annoying whistle you’re talking about! I didn’t narrow it down specifically to that top vent but fully guarantee that’s where mine was coming from as well.
I like using the voice commands to control the Cardo.
I've used helmets with straps like that. They are awesome. I love how they're made and its really hard to accidentally un latch it. It's super easy hook, especially with gloves. Please dont remove that feature.
Agreed. Fidlock buckles are amazing. I wish all helmets had them.
There's a reason why the double ring locks have been standard forever and anything that doesn't use them is unsafe and dumb.
Pass
@@Jessienesh saying that everything else is unsafe and dumb, is dumb. Yes d-rings are the strongest, but crashes with enough force to break a fidlock are extremely rare. Surprised you aren't complaining about the strap too since that'll break with enough force as well. The majority of riders cruising around town or even on the highway would be perfectly safe with a fidlock. Almost none of us are racing or going anywhere near a high enough speed to generate that kind of force.
@Jessienesh the only way for fidlocks to disengage is to pull the tab. They're locked in place. I had a bulletproof helmet in which I locked the strap around a pole and I grabbed onto the helmet and it held my full weight. The double rings have been the standard because it cost a lot of money to get the certification. Just because something has been done the way and it's worked doesn't mean we stay with that method or technology. That's how innovation works. You figure out things that work better. It might not work in every situation but it's great for casual riders. Or do you wear a one piece suit everytime you ride since that's the "standard".
I love the locking strap
6:30 [Me who rides an EUC] not an issue, I got both hands free while I ride :D This helmet seems pretty dope, just needs a little more refinement. If they ever make a flip-up modular version, I'd buy the Mach 6 or 7 for sure.
It costs 650$ and doesnt have a hud? Damn, monochrome display costs like a few dollars.
Id actually prefer the Fidlock as my Sedici has a D ring and it can be a bit cumbersome at times. Also if I find myself in a situation where my helmet needs off very quickly i.e. I land underwater or worse id much rather a quick release option. Neat helmet !
If you land underwater I think getting your helmet off would be the least of your problems…smh
@@Johnelilopezprobably would add a bit of buoyancy at first tbh
@@shauns5278 Being made mostly of EPS (styrofoam), I imagine they float like a cork even when flooded. Commercial diving helmets (only because I used to wear them) are made of either fiberglass or stainless steel and weigh about 30lb on the surface. Underwater and on your head, though, they're basically neutral (weightless). In fact they need a few pounds of brass weight to keep them that way, offsetting the internal air volume. EPS is denser than air, of course, but closer to it than to water.
Taking a step back, though, this somewhat reminds me of a friend of mine who refuses to wear his seat belt (despite multiple tickets). His reasoning? If he crashes and the car bursts into flame, he doesn't want to end up trapped. I suppose flying through the windshield and lawn-darting into the pavement _technically_ avoids that problem, but I can't say I agree with the overall risk analysis. Not a fair comparison to the original point here, but still...these aren't the scenarios to be worried about, I'd say.
Bigger worry than yeeting into a lake...a friggin wasp trapped in your helmet!
Watching Metalocalypse in the background. Hell yeah!!
I see Nathan Explosion on the screen at the end! 😂 Metalocalypse was a great cartoon!
Addendum: and the Thunderhorse Explorer on the wall!
nice Metalocalypse reference 😂 brought me back.
I'm not against a Fidlock. After riding with one for over a year on one of my helmets, I've yet to have it come loose for any reason other than me opening it. But I can understand the apprehension of trusting your noggin to it.
The price hike put it to about the top of the range that I'd pay for a helmet outside of the big 4(ish) manufacturers. You do get some nice accessories on the helmet out of the box, but I'm not sold on the build quality enough to spend coin on it.
Great video Spite ✌
I'll wait until they fix the issues raised. Not sure about the fiddle lock. Only: is it really that 'smart'? I half expected more tech, like HUD.
I just want to say that I’m in the military and my kevlar(helmet) has that chin release. I freaking love it. It’s very easy to snap on and never moves.
Brutal guitars dude !
Brake light, that would be great. Also how about adding signal indicators as well👍
I own a mach v. I bought the non-command version when they first came out for about 300$usd. It’s ok at best. The biggest downside is the shield will open at speed in a sheer wind. That is to say if you are riding in the wind or looking over your shoulder the shield will open. It does have an ece rating but I think it only passed because the foam is hard as a gd rock. Great for concussions. I would not buy this helmet again and am looking to upgrade.
Have to say, the Mach V is easily one of the best looking helmets on the market. I'd really like the Mach V carbon with the red accents, and the red visor.
its a golden visor
I’ve had Fid lock straps for a few years on different helmets and never had one come undone. It’s so much better than D rings.
I have a Sena Stryker helment. After 2 years i love it other than the speaker quality could be better and the outer visor needs better detents. Also the airflow vents rattle somewhat.
When you lifted the visor a little there wasn't much wind noise which is nice. How much does it fog up? I had that issue with one of my helmets so I bought another one at the time and it didn't fog. Seems like a good helmet to have. What was the yellow/gold/red visor like after the blue one. I need to buy new helmets my current ones haven't been used for a few years.
Thanks! I was on the Fence about getting it since I have a x14, 2 airflites, 2 agvs, I still want it but in RED, when they decide to make it...
Great review of an interesting helmet. Being a knife guy, what folder did you use to open the box?
So what happens when the cardo quits working or you want to upgrade thr Cardo? Do you have to replace the whole helmet or can you just drop a new one in?
Check out the Sena Impulse or Stryker helmet. These also have red LEDs on the back, as well as mesh comm.
Apparently they have a NON commander version for 299 without the gimmicks, that's a tempting price for a non premium brand with a cool different design
FWIW, I bought a new Arai Signet-X that whistled horribly from one of the top vents. I exchanged it for another of the same helmet and that one worked fine. Hopefully you’ll find the same, Spite, with the replacement.
You may or may not think some of us didn't notice that metalocalypse sfx at the beginning but it was what drew me in...
Love the strap as o easy to put on and off.
More to love at 550 vs 650😅
The earmuff thing is cool! I was wondering if there was a way to use those little inflatable window setting lifters in construction. Without crushing your head of course.
Man, this guy deserves so many more subs
The Fidlock to me is a plus. My current helmet is a Klim Krios Pro which has a Fidlock and you can literally hang from that clasp and it won't let go. Plus it's either clasped or not, there's no half way, whereas double D's can be done incorrectly. I agree the light is a missed opportunity and could also use a selector in cases when you have a passenger. Cardo has always been awesome for me. I still have G4's that I still use as backups! Kicking myself this wasn't available when I bought my Klim.
Your audio was really good when you were testing it on the road. Was that through a built in mic from the helmet or your own? Can you share what your setup is?
Fidlocks are the best, man. Super glove friendly and in an emergency where your helmet may need to be removed, anyone can do it quickly if necessary
What they could do to get that brake light to turn on as you're slowing down and potentially solve the whistling problem from the brow vent is something similar to what they put on the tips of airplanes for sensing the changes in air pressure and their speed but it would have to be scaled down to the point where it would register the wind from riding a motorcycle instead of wind 2000 feet in the air going 100/200 mph which wouldn't necessarily be a simple task but I think for the quality it would be worth putting in the work figuring out the design flaws and scaling it down to get it to work properly to wear as the air pressure decreases from the wind flowing through the air vents it closes off a valve completing a circuit and lighting up the brake lights on the back meanwhile still allowing the Vents to be used as intended
@spitescorner
Hey spite, I was wondering if you ever did get that replacement helmet that fixed the top vent with the whistle noise fixed, or was the one you first received faulty?
Great review, very informative! I’ve been looking at this helmet for myself, as a snowmobiler. The chase light is better for sledding than a brake light, because when we ride as a group the snow dust covers our tail lights and you lose track of people ahead of you. I’m concerned about that whistle and also concerned about how 509 will insulate the helmet for winter sub-zero use. I ned to see one in person before pinning the throttle to the bars. The Cardo integration is a really strong selling point, though.
Is the Cardo a selling point? What is the equivalent CARDO if a rider were to purchase one?
@@DNiddy Good point, and I’m not sure. For those who typically use a communicator, it’s cool that this is all built in already - including the battery. For those who don’t use a communicator, maybe it’s still worth it, because you can Bluetooth to your phone to play music, or record audio. I need to see one before I commit that much money for a helmet. Snowmobilers typically pay $200-400 for a helmet, even a fancy one. The price for this one is giving me sticker shock until I can justify it. I can see myself opting for the non-Cardo version, simply because of price, but we’ll see.
I'd consider one if they made a modular version. I'm interested in the earcup feature, my biggest issue with helmets and speakers is that they always end up pinching the very tops of my ears, no matter the brand. I know it's because my ears are just big, but it prevents me from utilizing any helmet audio system.
The ear muff style cups will probably help avoid pinching. There's a lot more room in this for your ears than a traditional helmet
Im done with D rings since I bought my last Shoei with the click latch thing which works flawlessly....I can do it with my gloves on easily which is kind of a big deal really...to me anyway. The only bad thing about my GT Air2 is It would not be approved for the track as it does not have d ring straps and also it has the sun screen which has saved me multiple times as I cant wear sun glasses unless prescription so the flip down sun screen can really make a difference....and I love the integral Sena Mesh which is made for the helmet and viceversa
Get yourself a scorpion Exo-1400 (or 520 for the cheap version, or the Offroad or Adv-versions, many of their models have it). It comes in carbon or fiberglass, so it's longer lasting and lighter, and has the inflatable cheekpads. Cheaper, also has cool visors, and you can add the cardo of your choice easily. Also, d-rings or ratchets, depending on the model.
I'm not a fan of gimmicks, and this screams gimmick...
What did you use to talk with no GoPro attached? Im trying to see if and since there’s and integrated cardo how do I use a gopro with it
has there been a follow up video? i don't see one unless i'm overlooking it. curious about the whistle
Wonderful Helmet, how connected mic to camera? ¿You have a records audio or it’s bluetooth?
your rear red-light indicator for braking would require the installation of what is called an accelerometer. your smartphone has one in it so yep, they are TINY due to modern tech. basically, at rest (depending on orientation of the sensor) the sensor stays in a 'neutral' or 'off' position. when de/acceleration in speed happens, momentum causes a positional switch to connect and allow an electric current to pass through the sensor and it is now 'on' instead of 'off' from being at rest.
the problems with an accelerometer?
1 you jam too hard to the tunes in your earmuffs and bang your head? or nod too hard? or hit a speed bump a bit too 'speedily'? or pothole? or crack/roll your stiff neck? the sensor could trip and turn on and off. of course, depending on how sensitive the accelerometer is and how it is oriented inside your helmet.
2 unlike the indicator lights on your bike, the helmet light would be INDEPENDANT of the actual operation of the bike's brakes, turn signals, headlight etc. and may not be a street-legal safety/brake light. you would have to consult your State's laws concerning this.
3 your smartphone MAY be capable of using its accelerometer in a similar fashion to one installed inside the helmet. THIS idea... i would be HIGHLY suspicious of. your smartphone would have to be correctly calibrated regularly. as well as mounted onto your bike VERY specifically to have your phone oriented exactly... and i do mean within a few MICRONs of adjustment... for your smartphone to correctly work as a braking/acceleration sensor.
4 possibly, just possibly your bike's braking/turning system could be directly wired to your helmet's light. but that is one long wire and might just be overly complex to plug/unplug when you got on and off your bike. but if your CLOTHING was pre-wired with contact patches of a metallic nature... on your ass and inner thighs... and corresponding metal patches were on your bike's seat? each patch could have a wire and work like an electrical connection.
Get a Scorpion AT-950 with a Cardo Pactalk Bold add the Brake Free light and you're golden.
I currently have a Ruroc Atlas, and the magnetic strap is super fucking handy especially if i forget to strap it up after i have my gloves on. It also does NOT come undone I've had it for over a year. Never had any sort of issue with it. It's one of my favorite parts. Yes I was concerned about it at first, but after i tested it a couple of times and really just fucking with it and pushing and pulling on it, It will NOT come undone. Given that's a different helmet, but i doubt it can be too much different
I wish more brands get into transitions shield tech like Bell, Shoei
So I have a huge issue with gadgets on bikes! Now I don’t know if the issues I have are relevant in the US as I believe them to be here in the U.K. because you have massive roads everywhere but, people in cars are constantly distracted by their toys on the dashboard! I have on several occasions been a victim of these distractions. Now on a bike until relatively recently you had lights,indicators Speedo and rev counter. You concentrated on your riding, no distractions. But they’ve crept in on bikes and it worries me because if you’re fiddling around with buttons on your crash helmet or playing with your touch screen you ain’t concentrating on riding and the result of getting wrong isn’t going to be a bent panel on your car , it’s going to be a trip in an ambulance! You need your hands on the bars and ride that’s what we do ride!!
Wow that is rely cool helmet. Hopefully they create a dual sport modular helmet with the same tech in the future. It would be perfect for my Inmotion V14 EUC.
I've been using a ruroc atlas with fidloc and I really love it personally.
Much easier to use with gloves on (d rings are a pain in gloves) and no issues with it coming undone.
Definitely agree with the operational stuff being on the left side.
Ohh!a wall post on how to wear your helmet. I will have to get it mounted on a Plack hardboard lamination and put it in my garage. Actually I need two of them since it has instructions on both sides.
They should make different custom attachments for different red like predator dress, that can plug into that light slot or something or a clip on mohawk..
Are you using the internal mic to record audi during the ride? Just wanted to know if there is a requirement to add additional equipment for motovlogging.
My current helmet has a built in audio system that connects to my phone via blue tooth. One major issue I have is that I need to have the volume turned up all the way to listen to music when going highway speeds due to the wind noise. I ride for a few hours and my ears are ringing like I've just got out of a concert. It looks like it was better on that one but you never covered how loud the audio can get nor at what level it needs to be at to hear it at different speeds. I also don't like how my helmet controls don't allow for a next song / previous song. It has everything else but that. What about the controls on that helmet? Would've been nice to actually go over it. Despite being at max volume, the battery with mine lasts 8 hours. How long does the battery last on that helmet? You didn't say. I'm glad I saw this review because I got my helmet off Amazon for 300 Canadian. I would not pay 650 (likely American) for that. Light on the back? Don't need it. It'll just eat up battery life. No built in camera (mine doesn't either but mine is half the price and could accommodate a chin mount). No sun visor (mine has a clear outer visor but also a sun visor that slides down). Mine also doesn't have an exposed cable at all. Why is there even an exposed cable?
I for one have a Shoei RF1400 with the 2X Cardo with JBL sound system Game changer for me🦾. Thanks for the Video.👍
Nice guitar collection. I love the Explorer type.
Thanks! That's my Ghosthorse, love it.
Looks cool, cool tinted lenses, cool light on the back and cardo BUT all of the flaws & price makes it a no-go. Shoei is the gold standard kinda like a Vitamix.Speaking of which I've used my Vitamix everyday sometimes 2-3 times a days since christmas 2015 and it's still going strong. It's a true workhorse & I'm only on my second blender container.
New Subscriber here, fantastic content love in it!! What's your favorite smart helmet? What's your favorite helmet for blogging and comfort?
Actually when you rode with the face shield up, the audio sounded way clearer and better. LOL.
I've owned a Mach V for about 2 months now. (Not the commander edition) and for the price I suppose it's pretty worth it but my biggest complaint is it was about 80$ for another tinted visor because it only came with a singular clear visor AND it didn't come with a plastic piece that comes installed on the clear visor to actually seal it to the helmet. Now, the quick release system for the visor is amazing, but what is the point if I have to carry a tiny screwdriver to remove the small bolts to switch it to another visor. I also should mention I did reach out to customer service and asked if I could receive that gray plastic piece on the visor and they said no, only 1 is included with the purchase of a helmet and they cannot sell me one or provide one.
They are available for purchase on their website now
Hey Spite, what is the super nice metal song playing in the intro
I wish they had a Carbon version of the commander. Just one color scheme. Maybe going forward theyll come out with more.