THE HEAVY METAL HALL OF FAME! feat. Mad Mike
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2024
- Inducting a slew of bands into The Metal Meltdown & Mad Mike's very official and very objective Heavy Metal Hall Of Fame.
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I think a producer we forgot about was Martin Birch. He was an engineer on a lot of iconic Deep Purple albums such as In Rock, Fireball, Machine Head and Burn. He also produced all the Ronnie Rainbow albums (Rainbow, Rising, and LLRnR). He also did Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules for Black Sabbath. And he also produced everything Maiden did from Killers through Fear of the Dark.
He's no Scott Burns, but he's definitely on the list if we do another one.
Honestly I think I should give u props to bring up Cannibal Corpse as a point of debate. I do agree with u in the sense that extreme metal reached its biggest exposure with the band's appearance in the Ace Ventura movie which, at the time, everybody in my age group had seen at one point and considering the concert scene as one of the movie's most iconic moments.
Bathory was an obvious one for me. Pioneered black metal which inspired pretty much every extreme metal genre throughout the 80’s and 90’s (especially in Scandinavia) and gave birth to a new genre in Viking metal with Hammerheart. I love Celtic Frost but Bathory’s early material was a blueprint for just about every black metal album released in the 90’s. On top of that I just think they fit the description of black metal way more than Celtic Frost with satanic lyrics, raspy nasally vocals, and lo fi production.
I was typing something similar, but you already got it covered. The fact that they weren't even brought up is weird. Super influential, way more than Celtic Frost.
Celtic Frost was Proto Death Metal , not Black Metal .
To people still complaining about the black album. Move the fuck on, it’s been at least 3 fucking decades, the guys in Metallica are like in their 60s. We get it, you think it’s overrated, it’s a sellout whatever, Metallica isn’t asking for you to like it. Like it or not MOST people are introduced to metal with songs on this album whether it’s Enter Sandman, Nothing Else matters, Sad but True, Whenever I may roam, The Unforgiven Through the never etc…, Black album might be THEE gateway metal album of all gateways Metal albums. Metallica will forever remain one of the most classic, influential and Greatest Metal bands of all time. After going through their Discog again, while they have their bad albums/songs I will always love 1st 5 albums, I like load, Garage Inc and reload, I respect Lulu. Even after decades of being a metalhead I still love and respect Metallica.
"B-BUT THEY SOLD OUT! THEY CUT THEIR HAIR! STRANGER THINGS! REEEEEE"
The Black Album was the first heavy metal album I bought as a kid in the early 90s. It'll always hold a special place for me. Haters and elitists can say whatever they want but Sad But True SLAPS!
Now this is 666% more rock and roll than the real Rock and Roll hall of fame!
Van Halen is definitely a band I would vote for a metal hall of fame; while they didn't exactly make metal, the way each person did their part (especially the og lineup) influenced the way everyone played their instruments/sang going forward.
Now I want a subgenre called PowerMaiden.
This is 1000 times better than the "rock and roll" Hall Of Fame 🤣
Now I just need the bank to approve my loan to open a museum.
@@themetalmeltdownofficialMaybe ask Fat Mike about how the Punk Rock Museum opened... probably make some contacts that way, too.
I think Carcass should be added. They were very influential to grindcore and melodic death metal.
No argument here.
I’d ague that bands like Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Queen, Van Halen, Blue Öyster Cult, AC/DC & Rainbow may have a number of metal SONGS, but aren’t necessarily metal BANDS. Influential for sure, but another factor would be the embrace of the label and the ability to operate in the metal circles consistently. Love all of those artists btw
Mike Patton cuz he is like the father of alternative metal and have an insane vocal range, and Darkthrone, every raw black metal record have something from Transilvanian Hunger on it.
Pretty good list!
Other names that deserver to be there or at least considered imo:
Morbid Angel
Carcass
Gorguts (because of Obscura)
Maybe Bathory and/or Venom
Maybe King Diamond and/or Mercyful Fate
Black album is a killer album!
It most certainly is
Finally a hall of fame worth a shit
Great list. I think you should come back to this list a year from now and add 5 more names. I also would like to hear the opinion of an old-timer, like Sam Dunn.
I'd love to have Sam on here someday.
Killer first batch of inductees, I will make an argument for Suffocation being one of if not the most influential death metal band. Effigy of the Forgotten came out in 1991 and blew everything out of the water with their absolutely pummeling brutality, speed, and heaviness. They are basically the godfathers of brutal death metal as well as tech death to a certain degree. Cannibal Corpse may have had the over the top gory lyrics and imagery, but after people heard Liege of Inveracity it's safe to say that it raised the bar exponentially for how heavy and intense death metal can be.
A list solid asi metal 🤘😄 If it was mine, I would add just two bands: BATHORY (switched them with Mayhem, maybe) and HELLOWEEN ( I know you guys are not fans of power metal and Ronnie James Dio counts as it's godfather, but those german dudes made it a thing).
Black Sabbath
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden
Death
Metallica
my first 5, without those, is there really Metal?
nickelback and puddle of mudd
Yall be making perfect sense to me,
But you were like oh, yup Pantera and sepultura.
But we go listen to music and I'm like try not to headband challenge and we're going to listen to sepultura from the past comes the storms bro😅
I get told this would be a weird choice, but I would put forward Lamb of God. I firmly believe that the modern metal scene as a whole would be very different without "Ashes In The Wake".
I could maybe get behind that - they're an important part of the NWOAHM & metalcore scenes and they're extremely popular.
The best piece of advice I can give to not just metalheads but all music fans is: If someone doesn't like the same music that you do. Don't take it personally. It's not a personal attack. It's just an opinion on music.
Come on, a list like this without Slayer is incomplete.. 🤗 Waaaaaay more influential than Cannibal Corpse..
I believe that morbid angel could be on this list because 1. They had a best selling death metal album. 2. Pete's Sandoval drumming has changed the way for Death metal drumming because most of the early death metal bands they were still using thrash beats. 3. The Riffs also did change for a lot of death metal and they're kinda the first band to use 7 strings (correct me if I am wrong.)
Dream Theater (one might not like then, but influence on various subgenres of metal is undebiable)
Emperor, Bathory
I would have had Tom Allom and/or Martin Birch go in before Scott Burns personally. Allom was literally an engineer from the first Black Sabbath album.
Whoa😮...so Lemmy literally rocks out with his 🐓 out! Totally deserved the induction may he Rest In Power!
Iron maiden motorhead 🤘🇬🇧
great video love all your videos best youtuber ever
I'm surprised Venom wasnt inducted. Love them or hate them, they invented extreme metal. Everything from the imagery, to the lyrics, to the abrasive production, to the proto guttural vocals that Cronos had. Black metal is the obvious example, sure, but people also forget that Metallica and Slayer were heavily influenced by Venom, and so were Death and Possessed. Without Venom, there is no thrash metal, black metal, death metal, grindcore, and even crust punk. They are the Black Sabbath of extreme metal. There are numerous bands that came after them that built on what they did and did so better and more extreme, but the fact remains that Venom is massively influential to metal and belongs on this list.
Venom were heavily influenced by Witchfynde and Motorhead. The truth Motorhead was the first Extreme Metal band. Venom used Witchfynde's imagery and Motorhead's music. Venom were similar to Judas Priest insomuch as Black Sabbath influenced Metal, but Judas Priest were actually the first real Metal band. Motorhead invented Extreme Metal, but Venom were actually the first Extreme Metal act.
What about Exodus or Overkill??
Not a big black metal fan, but I definitely feel like Bathory should’ve made it. Great music and arguably as influential as Mayhem
Damn, forgot Bastards from Motörhead is that underrated of an album
Good selection. Other additional names that came to my mind would have been Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, AC/DC, Manowar, Paradise Lost, Machine Head, Guns'N Roses, KISS, Accept, Queensryche, Dream Theater, Venom, Helloween etc..
I'm shocked this is the first time anyone is mentioning Dream Theater lmao
TBH I thought most people would be more mad because of me mentioning Manowar or Helloween. I know that you really hate DT but remember that a wise man once said that personal taste doesn't matter. 😂 Anyway, good list. @@themetalmeltdownofficial
fantastic video, im not a faan but suprised Tool isnt metioned, Helloween is a wild card for me, I had put out Alice Cooper and put Helloween there, glad for Scorpions btw
Whilst I don’t like the black album, it’s stupid to say it isn’t influential and that it makes Metallica unworthy of Hall of Fame status. A fair amount of comments just in this video prove how relevant it is even today, wether you like it or not.
No VOIVOD again? Fine. I'll play it mydamnself. Fun discussion.
The DEEP PURPLE/ BLACK SABBATH/ RAINBOW/ DIO situation is complicated because they shared so much key personnel(IAN GILLAN sang for SABBATH on "Born Again", one of my faves from them). The case for RAINBOW is 1): they perfected power metal before IRON MAIDEN got there, and 2): they spawned a lot of important figures like Dio, Bonnet, Coverdale, Powell, etc. I know its messy, just sayin.
IRON MAIDEN story: Gene, Roman & I saw them live in 1984 in Birmingham, AL on the Powerslave tour with TWISTED SISTER opening. We were in the 8th grade, and, turns out Gene's mom is Steve Harris' ex-girlfriend(she was georgeous). She calls ahead to some other blessed individual, and Mr. Harris gets the word. He gets security to put us and Gene's mom in front of the stage barricades for the whole show, bathroom breaks and all. Bruce and Steve both made it a point to play to us throughout the show. Blew our tiny minds. They were so happy to see little kids up front. Gods Of Their Choosing bless them, as a 14 year old metalhead, there was no looking back. I'm 53 now.
Everybody watch the
"Flight 666" documentary if you havent, and dont forget "Somewhere In Time
Anyone thinks Biden's too old to run for president needs to hear Invincible Shield
Fun fact: after Iron Maiden sold out those 4 nights at Long Beach Arena on the World Slavery Tour (Live After Death was filmed during a couple of those nights), a radio station took note that Maiden didn't have radio airplay in L.A.
They secretly switched formats very quickly, hitting up record stores all over to not show their hand... and 105.5 KNAC was born.
I know who goes into hall of lame for sure.
Not enough swedes.
Judas Priest
Aerosmith
Deeds of Flesh
Tortured Dog
Rainbow
Metal Church
Squaw Breeder
Carcass
Motorhead
Handicapped Wildcat
April Wine
Exciter
Witchfynde
Montrose
Cephalotripsy
Aldo Nova
Manowar
Bathory
Led Zeppelin
Scorpions
Incantation
Juggernaut
Nightranger
Venom
Tankard
great list
ps Anthrax got robbed
Hopefully next time
Where is the melodic death metal band, metal Prog, power metal? But too many brutal bands
We added the bands that paved the way for all those genres, I don't see the issue. That said I'm not opposed to adding more melo-death and prog and power metal in the future.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial I'm just a man who can't listen to brutal heavy metal at all. Where has the beauty of the vocals and guitar solos gone, just a continuous cacophony of screeching and sawing. I respect the opinions of those who like this kind of music, but the Hall of Fame implies value for everyone, doesn't it?
Well, technically, no, it doesn't. But more importantly: once again, all the bands that paved the way for prog metal and power metal and melo-death are here. You're acting as if the vast majority of bands listed here are super brutal underground death metal bands and that simply isn't true.
@@themetalmeltdownofficial Actually non, I meant NapalmDeath, Celtic Frost and Cannibal Corpse. I also don't see the point in putting Slayer and Sepultura together.
Anyway, this is just my opinion and your channel is great.
what about Led Zeppelin?
Wickedly influential but much like Deep Purple, not a metal band
I'm very shocked, that you left out RUSH. Not a fan of them, but Neil Peart was one of the best drummers and Gedy Lee heavily influenced Steve Harris. And if not them, who would be the most important and influencial band for progressive metal???
Love 'em, but as influential as they are to metal, much like Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin, they're not a metal band.
Korn absolutely should have been on there. They literally invented a genre that kept metal relevant for years.
Relevant to who? Epstien pedos?
Anyone who says Metallica are overrated don't know what they're talking about. I love the Black Album and their still kicking Ass!!
Might be a hot take here but whether u are a fan or not (I'm not) but I would argue Slipknot deserves a spot too. Their eclectic sound (which includes groove metal, electronics, extreme metal, alt rock a.o.), their image and the way they managed to implement that concept of tribalism at the core of their identity made them pave the way for pretty much anything that came at us in the 21st century in terms of extreme music. On top of that, they even managed to reach a sizable part of the more mainstream audience: aside from Pantera that must be one of the most extreme outputs ever to achieve that.
Honestly I wouldn't disagree
Really good list. I must say I didn't think of just RDJ as an individual. Rather brilliant. I disagree with Celtic Frost as a first ballot inductee. Alice Cooper is problematic. I agree he influenced metal but here is the issue. For people my age Kiss was a gateway band. Kiss opened the door to listen to heavy music. What about Motley Crue also very influential. So if Cooper goes in Kiss absolutely has to. A band that is forgotten is Korn. People forget how important they were in the 90's to 2010 or so. They rivaled Metallica's popularity. I would say no to Rainbow. The Dio era albums I always considered metal. The Turner era even though I actually like it certainly isn't metal. For first ballot I think King Diamond should also get in and Emperor and Immortal should get consideration.
uuuggghhh I suppose you're right about KISS and Motley Crue, unfortunately.
Anthrax should’ve made it. For better or worse with out them doing Bring The Noise we may never of had rap metal
How dare you sirs… This is the “heavy metal hall of fame” yet you do not include Metal God Kelly himself… MGK. -69/10 list.
Forgive me, for I am a fool
He's still doing pop punk. We have to wait about 5 years before he gets booed out of the community and he invents metal.
are you suggesting "Mainstream Sellout" is not such so profoundly important to metal? It taught us an important lesson: how to not make music!
@@MadMike1 you clearly missed the track Maybe featuring Bring Me The Horizon. That song inspired Metallica to write the stranger things song.
I don't agree with Celtic Frost because they never sold well (plus I don't like them that much)
More bands that I think wouldn’t be a bad addition in here on the more extreme side would be like Darkthrone, Slipknot. Maybe Cattle decap, because they’re a very popular band? 💀Idk about that one but slipknot definitely I think wouldn’t be a bad addition.