How GREAT were Suicune & Walking Wake Actually - History of Competitive Suicune & Walking Wake

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  • @FalseSwipeGaming
    @FalseSwipeGaming  Рік тому +115

    Hello! We missed a placement!
    Brandon Ikin 1st at the 2015 Bochum Regionals
    Jamie Boyt 2nd at the 2015 Bochum Regionals
    Finals vod: ua-cam.com/video/7qndL6xJn8I/v-deo.html&ab_channel=OrganizedPlayAMIGO

  • @JH-lb6qf
    @JH-lb6qf Рік тому +563

    You damn right I'm going to watch a 52 minute Suicine video even though i don't play Competitive.

    • @Lassoloc
      @Lassoloc Рік тому +44

      such is the magic of FSG's videos. really wish they would take ten seconds to verbally state the stat spread and release these as a podcast, because they're great listening while doing other things

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому +1

      Just be careful of the PTSD frames at 3:56.

    • @logandaley1544
      @logandaley1544 Рік тому

      You and me both.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 Рік тому +1

      @@Lassoloc I mean, I don't want to be mean (I dunno, people take things too sensitive these days whatever some ppl say) - but why cannot people do a little bit of their own research and try and experiment for themselves? Like the OG Pros did? It will only make you a better player since you are now dipping into this Pool (of Competitives.) It's like asking an award-Winning Chef for his recipe just like that. I mean, here's one I guess? 🙄 HP: 248 , Def: 80 , SpA: 10 , SpDef: 160 , Spee: 8.

    • @Lassoloc
      @Lassoloc Рік тому +8

      @@netweed09 that's not what im talking about in the slightest

  • @skeetermania3202
    @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +717

    Fun fact, this is the first remake whose original video covered up to Gen 7. Every previous remake’s original video only covered up to Gen 6.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +9

      @@snapclub8751 The originals of those two covered up to Gen 6.

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 Рік тому +32

      The first remake whose original was also written by BKC

    • @Carnidoom
      @Carnidoom Рік тому

      pretty sure dino suicune is gen 9

    • @homerman76
      @homerman76 Рік тому +7

      ​@@Carnidoom They mean that the original video covering Suicune only went up to gen7 since that was released too early for even gen8 to have a clear analysis

    • @jonathano503
      @jonathano503 Рік тому +5

      @@shawnli4746Burger King Customer?

  • @PKSparkxxDH
    @PKSparkxxDH Рік тому +40

    This video kept me company while I made dinner and did chores. Appreciate your work, team ❤️

  • @smith_und
    @smith_und Рік тому +24

    Happy to be mentioned in this video! Of maybe particular interest is that in the finals of 2013 Houston, game 2 came down to Suicune vs Suicune, which I was able to win thanks to Rest and VGC's timer rules. Flattered to be included in Pokemon history!

  • @brandontherabboat4850
    @brandontherabboat4850 Рік тому +399

    Suicune really was the ultimate wall back in Gen 3. Too bad the only one you could legally get your hands on back then without Colosseum always had 3 IVs of 0, which is why I named mine “Suican’t” in those days.

    • @shinysamurott613
      @shinysamurott613 Рік тому +26

      Not entirely true as Suicune could also be obtained in Colosseum where the Roamer IV bug wasn't an issue.

    • @kristopherwillis8075
      @kristopherwillis8075 Рік тому +3

      I got mine from firered back in the day because I had charmander as my starter 😊.

    • @LuigiTheMetal64
      @LuigiTheMetal64 Рік тому +8

      Similarly, in Generation 2, male Pokémon can have an Attack IV up to 15, while female Pokémon can only go up to 11-unless they are female-only Pokémon.

    • @FireFog44
      @FireFog44 Рік тому +8

      @LuigiTheMetal64 In gen 2, gender was determined by the Atk DV + the species’ gender ratio with males having better attack than females. For a species with 50/50 gender ratio, the lowest DV a male can have was 8 and the highest a female could have was 7. Species like Ninetales that are 75% female have a max Atk for females being 11 and minimum Atk for males be 12, while starters which are 87% male have females with a max Atk DV of 1 and males a minimum of 2. Genderless and mono-gendered species could have Atk DVs anywhere from 0-15.

    • @brendanboomhour7606
      @brendanboomhour7606 Рік тому +6

      ​@@FireFog44so essentially, the only female pokemon competitively viable were either those with a 100% chance to be female, or dedicated special attackers?

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina Рік тому +806

    I really really hope Arcanine gets a remake video.
    I think it's the pokemon who needs one the most aside from maybe gengar.

    • @gotdamn4989
      @gotdamn4989 Рік тому +56

      and tyranitar

    • @carlosguerrero6501
      @carlosguerrero6501 Рік тому +55

      H-arcanine needs to be on the remake, my boy was insane last reg

    • @aroperdope
      @aroperdope Рік тому +20

      Been waiting forever for Gengar; especially every October 31st

    • @snapclub8751
      @snapclub8751 Рік тому +8

      @@carlosguerrero6501surprising considering it’s quad weaknesses to Water and Ground.

    • @dondiego1141
      @dondiego1141 Рік тому +5

      Dragonite!!! This mon deserves it more than thr ones quoted. It has aged so well, from adding pokemon abilities to Terra, every new game addition made it better and better.

  • @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions
    @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions Рік тому +177

    Interesting for this to come out before we get to see how Walking Wake fairs in Regulation F VGC.

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Рік тому +36

      I know, Kellen really tried to get these videos out before all of FSG knew that they would have to make longer videos. Lando, Heatran, the swords of justice and Latios. I don't think anyone knew about Kyurem coming back until the indigo disk
      I'm glad Terrakion didn't come out this year.

    • @jurischwarzer9877
      @jurischwarzer9877 Рік тому +7

      Even normal suicune seems very usable

    • @saiyanscaris6530
      @saiyanscaris6530 Рік тому +3

      ​@@mandalorianhunter1iron boulder would still be used

  • @Shadow-Joop-157
    @Shadow-Joop-157 Рік тому +174

    It's always been weird to me they give so much more love to Suicune than the other beast and it's nothing like Charizard. They gave it more love out of nowhere, but I have to say it has the best design

    • @DM-of5sl
      @DM-of5sl Рік тому +60

      It’s the mascot of Pokémon crystal, so it’s gotta have a little extra love put into it

    • @Shadow-Joop-157
      @Shadow-Joop-157 Рік тому +18

      That's exactly what I find strange, I understand that there had to be a third version, but why Suicune. Ho-oh was all the trio master why not focus on all three that would have been much cooler

    • @hitmanx200
      @hitmanx200 Рік тому +19

      Yeah but Entei got a sick movie

    • @borismuller86
      @borismuller86 Рік тому +7

      ⁠@@hitmanx200didn’t Raikou get Scald recently too? That’s a great move for a mono electric mon.

    • @D461Sage
      @D461Sage Рік тому +8

      ​@@hitmanx200Wasn't Suicune prominent in like 2 movies?

  • @ES-dp6tw
    @ES-dp6tw Рік тому +38

    Another wonderful video. Hats off to FSG's commitment to Pokemon analysis and here's to the New Year with more in store.

  • @SpyroThunder
    @SpyroThunder Рік тому +114

    Sun teams getting a fire water grass core in gen 9 was certainly unexpected. And considering how much of a staple groudon and kyogre are in restricted formats wake is going to fit right in. Koridon also has a lot of potential as a sun setter that also gets an attack buff in restricted formats. Wake is not only a sun mon but also a great counter to sun. So I expect it to thrive

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 Рік тому +1

      Koraidon* (left off the A)

    • @SpyroThunder
      @SpyroThunder Рік тому +4

      @@Amelia4111 minor spelling mistake. I will never recover.

    • @sirdabsalot1yt83
      @sirdabsalot1yt83 Рік тому +5

      ​@@Amelia4111 *Koraidon (the asterisk goes at the beginning when you're correcting someone)

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 Рік тому +1288

    It really sucks that Absolute Zero/Sheer Cold got changed since Generation 7 where it loses accuracy when used by Suicune or Kyogre for being Water-types. Even the description change sucks.

    • @dawnsbuneary
      @dawnsbuneary Рік тому +107

      But Tera Ice in gen 9 fixes that.

    • @雪者
      @雪者 Рік тому +142

      "Aw maaaan."
      -Kieran, SV DLC

    • @jjtheenton
      @jjtheenton Рік тому +108

      What's even the point when other OHKO moves don't change based on type?

    • @grandmastr2602
      @grandmastr2602 Рік тому

      Whipped out the Japanese name so we know you’re a real virgin

    • @ChrrolloDI
      @ChrrolloDI Рік тому +40

      How relevant is that in actuality though? I thought One-Hit KO moves were banned in conpetitive play.

  • @thel-iteralone4592
    @thel-iteralone4592 Рік тому +315

    Water only being weak to grass and electric has always been too good. Because of that, it's the main reason why grass and electric attacks get used. And back when grass and electric were exclusively special moves, that meant specially defensive water types like Calm Mind Suicune had it even better.

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Рік тому +57

      I honestly think water should be weak to poison now

    • @mr.lantern1111
      @mr.lantern1111 Рік тому +35

      “BOLD SUICUNE HAS NO WEAK.”

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 Рік тому +37

      It should've been weak to poison in the first place, not only that is very thematically fitting, its also a physical type, so in old gens water can't just tank everything without worry. It just shows how water was and still is TOO convenient of a type, whereas poison was so fucking bad only SE to grass.

    • @nerddwarf
      @nerddwarf Рік тому +42

      Water - Weak to 2, resists 4
      Fire - Weak to 3, resists 6
      Grass - Weak to 5, resists 10!... oh, wait.. no, sorry... Grass only resists 4...

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 Рік тому +1

      @@yungmuney5903 and fairy is perfectly balanced compared to water.

  • @acc3209
    @acc3209 Рік тому +34

    Majestic and iconic beast, imposible to dislike this pokemon.

    • @KooroshFarahani
      @KooroshFarahani Рік тому +12

      If you’ve ever played against a suicune, you’ll understand how easy it is to dislike it lol

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 Рік тому +70

    If this means a remake of Entei, I’m game. Since it’s had much more competitive success than just being “The bad Johto Beast”

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +7

      Depending on the format, it could be considered the best of the three (like VGC).

    • @karisasani7006
      @karisasani7006 Рік тому

      @@donovanchilton5817And now it has a paradox variant too which gives it some new potential

    • @CaptainJLinebeck
      @CaptainJLinebeck Рік тому +2

      Also helps that Inner Focus makes it immune to Intimidate

  • @boop53
    @boop53 Рік тому +8

    as Blunder puts it, Walking Wake is “The First Mon with Three Types” with that sun boosted proto boosted flamethrower lmao

    • @V-Jes
      @V-Jes Рік тому +2

      Nah that would be Koraidon because it set's it's own sun when entering battle and then gets the proto boost...

    • @boop53
      @boop53 Рік тому

      @@V-JesYeah i know

    • @waaaaaaah
      @waaaaaaah 8 місяців тому

      Isn't that Dhelmise tho?

  • @matteogalbusera1149
    @matteogalbusera1149 Рік тому +18

    And with this another year of "how good was # actually" ends, hope to see more remakes next year cause sone pokemon really needs it but for now thank you False Swipe Gaming for all this " actually great" content ❤🎉

  • @Flaris
    @Flaris Рік тому +18

    Suicune is definitely my favourite of the legendary beasts. Beautiful design.

  • @pitt2445
    @pitt2445 Рік тому +26

    Glad to see ADV Revival being showcased here

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

      What’s ADV Revival?

    • @mantabjoka
      @mantabjoka Рік тому +8

      Jimothy Cool’s gen 3 ou singles tournament that happened late this year

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +2

      @@mantabjokaMan, he’s such a Gen 3 fanboy, isn’t he? Maybe Iron Mugulis compels him to?

  • @Zpanther19
    @Zpanther19 Рік тому +6

    14:41 hey it’s me!!

  • @Poxell91
    @Poxell91 Рік тому +11

    I forgot which, but I did mention this on another video. I've never been one for competitive pokémon. And on the whole, I only understand everything you're talking about at a base level. That said, just putting on and casually listening to these videos is always both fascinating and strangely relaxing.

  • @PerfectAzrael
    @PerfectAzrael Рік тому +13

    Bulky water types always makes me think that grass types should've been the bulky ones since it makes sense with them being support type pokemon and grass types already got a lot of weaknesses so the water type doesn't need more buffs and could use a nerf that isn't ice.

  • @b2j135
    @b2j135 Рік тому +2

    I like that you're adding the Paradoxes apart of their original forms, very nice choice

  • @snapclub8751
    @snapclub8751 Рік тому +43

    Can’t wait to see Walking Wake on sun teams in VGC soon, especially once Groudon is allowed. I can’t definitely see a team of Groudon, Walking Wake, Venusaur, Flutter Mane, & Incineroar becoming popular.

    • @arafzaman760
      @arafzaman760 Рік тому +6

      I like Venu,but hisui lilligant will take its spot in sun groudon teams
      Max speed Timid venu hits 145 speed,it won't outspeed Booster speed flutter and bundle in sun

    • @saiyanscaris6530
      @saiyanscaris6530 Рік тому +11

      Don't forget raging bolt, chi-yu, and gouging fire and possibly hearthflame ogerpon

    • @reallyawesometitle7653
      @reallyawesometitle7653 Рік тому +6

      ​@arafzaman760 but Venusaur can utilize Ground moves and Weather Ball. Not to mention Chlorophyll

    • @Tzzrt_Unbrkn
      @Tzzrt_Unbrkn Рік тому +4

      Sun teams with double restricted sun setters, vgc is going to get wild

    • @frill8363
      @frill8363 Рік тому

      ​@@reallyawesometitle7653h-lilligant gets chlorophyll too, as well as STAB close combat, upper hand, and fun options like entrainment, ice spinner/triple axel

  • @TheMegaMagikarp
    @TheMegaMagikarp Рік тому +4

    The video capture guy named the young boy character Nate in Battle Revolution NateDogg. I see you, fam, I see you

  • @boop53
    @boop53 Рік тому +3

    if you ever remake the delibird video, the whole Iron Bundle segment would sound like something BKC would make up as a joke

  • @254zero
    @254zero Рік тому +2

    That calm mind rest sleep talk set is why I ALWAYS run toxic and taunt on my teams.

  • @jayd.doubledubs
    @jayd.doubledubs Рік тому +17

    Honestly shocked that this isnt an hour long

    • @patrickburton1401
      @patrickburton1401 Рік тому +11

      I mean it almost is lol

    • @pkmntrainerred4247
      @pkmntrainerred4247 Рік тому +2

      It almost is, its just about 7-8 mins short of it

    • @Resener1
      @Resener1 Рік тому +19

      It would’ve been, but Suicune pressured BKC and Zane during the scriptwriting process and they ran out of PP.

    • @jayd.doubledubs
      @jayd.doubledubs Рік тому +1

      @@Resener1 Genius

  • @starsimvidz
    @starsimvidz Рік тому +2

    Few things can top that rush of excitement and fear of running into one of the 3 beats as a kid in GSC. They were SO difficult to get.. probably why they are my favorite legends. They still have that... elusive feel to them.

  • @PocketHealer21
    @PocketHealer21 Рік тому +9

    The last time we covered Suicune was 5 years ago.
    ..damn

  • @YesImJoeKing
    @YesImJoeKing Рік тому +2

    It's hilarious how this Pokémon with a huge crystal on its head and ice type appearance is not an ice type.

  • @TheVengefulVadam
    @TheVengefulVadam Рік тому +2

    I'm surprised Inner Focus wasn't mentioned regarding VGC Suicune. It was useless in Singles, but having a flinch immunity in Doubles was really good for it when it finally released. Being able to set Tailwind without succumbing to a Fake Out flinch was much more beneficial than Pressure.

  • @JustJulyo
    @JustJulyo Рік тому +1

    Wow, this one was pretty crystal clear!
    Suicune was one cool Pokémon!

  • @NavyBlueDude
    @NavyBlueDude Рік тому +2

    Spitting nothing but facts. So happy to see my favorite Pokémon competitively explained.🌊🌊

  • @madmanminkler1382
    @madmanminkler1382 5 місяців тому +1

    I've never been much of a competitive battler, but I have frequently used Suicune in battle frontiers/towers and it has always done well.

  • @orshteinbok7762
    @orshteinbok7762 Рік тому

    40:32 I love the mouse popping out on the terrakion there lol

  • @siddhantkamble9502
    @siddhantkamble9502 Рік тому +3

    I can feel the BKC in this video.

  • @megamanzero29
    @megamanzero29 Рік тому +8

    Hydro steam a move that gets better in both Sun and rain

  • @thechillman4893
    @thechillman4893 Рік тому +8

    Great! Now I dare you to do the rest within 2 months.
    Edit: Make it a year.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

      Raging Bolt and Gouging Fire just came out. I think we should wait near the end of 2024.

    • @thechillman4893
      @thechillman4893 Рік тому +3

      @@skeetermania3202 Good point. I can wait until then. Keep in mind though. Not many people are this patient.

  • @alivegman3155
    @alivegman3155 Рік тому +10

    So Volcarona (and its paradox forms) might be getting a remake from what we’re seeing now? I can’t wait to see how it goes

    • @mrmittenns5728
      @mrmittenns5728 Рік тому +2

      In a year maybe lol. Volcarona has been releases wayy to early for a remake vid imo. Slitherwing isn't that good, and isn't comparable to volcarona in the slithest, while walking wake is more of a direct, offensive upgrade to suicune

    • @Seetiyan
      @Seetiyan Рік тому

      ​@@mrmittenns5728"slithest." Pun intended? 😆

    • @mrmittenns5728
      @mrmittenns5728 Рік тому

      @@Seetiyan that pun was indeed intended 😉

  • @TheTwilightSolace
    @TheTwilightSolace Рік тому +2

    Joey Pokeaim’s favorite Pokèmon for a reason

  • @wyattnance3756
    @wyattnance3756 Рік тому +2

    I started playing on showdown not long after the crowned tundra released, and one of the sets I just came up with was sub, protect, CM Suicune. Nice to see something I thought up was actually a notoriously frustrating set.

  • @OdysseyExe
    @OdysseyExe Рік тому

    Remember when the Zapdos vid was considered "a long one" ho boy that's a remake I'm waitin to see haha

  • @ryangains151
    @ryangains151 7 місяців тому

    Bringing out a second Suicune to instill more sub/protect nightmare like trauma has gotta be the most evil and hilarious thing I've seen in Pokémon 😂

  • @Victoria3WorldConquerer
    @Victoria3WorldConquerer Рік тому +3

    Toxapex can wall walking wake even with the special attack boost and sun. In fact, it can switch into a terra walking wake in the sun and wall it until the sun stops as long as it doesn't have a special attack boosting nature.

  • @N3OJOyTOKYO
    @N3OJOyTOKYO Рік тому

    YOO LETS GO you included walking wake

  • @BlueZangoose_
    @BlueZangoose_ Рік тому

    That’s my boys. Dominating multiple times in multiple different generations.

  • @elijahstreckfuss8204
    @elijahstreckfuss8204 Рік тому +1

    New theorem idea, when power creep doesn't always affect a Pokemon, also called the Gliscor theorem

  • @justinmedeiros7600
    @justinmedeiros7600 Рік тому

    Another certified false swipe gaming classic

  • @chrisdrums1910
    @chrisdrums1910 Рік тому

    I really like Wake’s section, yall did a perfect job on that analysis

  • @DjPrimeVideos
    @DjPrimeVideos Рік тому +1

    I remember in gen 7 i experienced my first vincune ever and it annoyed me to the point that the next time someone wanted to have a UU battle...i brought a cacturne

  • @EmmLoaf
    @EmmLoaf Рік тому +4

    Whoa, haven't been this early before

    • @雪者
      @雪者 Рік тому +1

      We all haven't really

  • @eloylopez8929
    @eloylopez8929 Рік тому

    Thank you for including vgc its so cool to see

    • @Symonch_
      @Symonch_ Рік тому

      We need more doubles dedicated content

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 Рік тому +18

    Damn this was really the year of legendaries. We got at least 10 or more legendary Pokemon videos this year.
    Why Articuno and Suicune remake so soon? Idk.
    A great year of FSG

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +1

      2022 didn’t have legendary videos, but man, did they come back with a vengeance this year, culminating in two remakes this last week.

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Рік тому

      ​@@skeetermania3202yeah I'm surprised we got 5 remakes

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

      @@mandalorianhunter1 Other than Shuckle and Articuno, what were the other ones?

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

      @@mandalorianhunter1 Now I remember. We actually had 6 remakes (Shuckle, Articuno, Suicune, and all the Johto starters).

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 Рік тому

      @@skeetermania3202 damn I forgot shuckle was a remake. I thought they were going to wait until next year or 2025 before doing the 18-19 videos to remake them.

  • @thatguyGuswho
    @thatguyGuswho Рік тому +1

    No matter how good it may be, I'll never use Suicune because I can't unsee that butt scarf

  • @t.j.helming5534
    @t.j.helming5534 Рік тому

    When a single pokemon through multiple generations doesn't drop down or completely fall off usage when the meta changes but instead just adapts and then is right back to being the same old same old that it had previously been without missing a beat. That is what it truly means, in my opinion, to the absolute testimate in which a pokemon can stand the test of time! Way to go, "the north wind", congratulations to living up the title of> legendary. Ho-oh would be proud!!

  • @breadknot4590
    @breadknot4590 Рік тому

    I love the remakes!!! I always look forward to your videos, Thank you!

  • @kaio0777
    @kaio0777 Рік тому

    A set so hard you have a name after you that is what I call elite
    Man will be a legend

  • @RedeemedSteve
    @RedeemedSteve Рік тому

    One of my earliest competitive pokemon memories is getting destroyed by a CroCune on Shoddy Battle back in 2010 during the HGSS days. Crazy to think that was over a decade ago.

  • @saiyanscaris6530
    @saiyanscaris6530 Рік тому +1

    btw for walking wake. it being part of sun teams with other mons like heartflame ogerpon, chi-yu, venasaur, raging bolt, gouging fire, great tusk, roaring moon, torkoal and so on shows that sun teams in the current era are nuts. heck right now walking wake to most people is tame compared to the other 2 and during pre home-end of teal mask people thought walking wake was a bit overpowered

  • @spoopa7733
    @spoopa7733 Рік тому

    we do not talk enough about how raw of a name "Walking Wake" is

  • @Overdragoon
    @Overdragoon Рік тому +1

    Suicune is by far one of the most unique pokemon ever. Not just for how good it was competitively, but its design and lore too. Everything about it make such a fantastic pokemon.
    Serious question though, @32:05 why was that guy who topped a regional using an Unown? What a legend 😂

    • @jalapenobug
      @jalapenobug Рік тому

      It’s because that Pokémon was unrevealed

  • @Pokeysanic
    @Pokeysanic Рік тому +1

    Patiently waiting for a video on Basculin and Basculegion.

  • @spirofarmaku6772
    @spirofarmaku6772 Рік тому +1

    I started playing pokemon because of suicune, pokemon crystal was my first game

  • @primepikachu5
    @primepikachu5 Рік тому

    Gonna have to update this video in a year since walking wake is still writing history

  • @HutchTheWolf
    @HutchTheWolf 8 місяців тому +1

    Damn, you know a ‘Mon was historically viable if the video is almost an hour long…

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 Рік тому

    Can’t wait to see how either of Cro or Vincune fair in Gen 9!
    Thank you, FSG!
    Another GREAT remake! 👍

  • @lorenzotosi7872
    @lorenzotosi7872 Рік тому

    its always funny but scary too when u see a 3 times generation ou titan get sent to uu by ferrothorn
    also great to see how gamefreak in gen 9 transformed a bulky mon into an hyper offensive cannon

  • @shazbot322
    @shazbot322 Рік тому +1

    weird i always heard it as "calm mind suicune has no weak"

  • @soopthedog7236
    @soopthedog7236 Рік тому

    bro snapped these holidays

  • @punkysnarks
    @punkysnarks Рік тому +3

    Suicune falling to Gen 8's power creep: "CALL AN AMBULANCE!"
    Suicune transforming into a dinosaur in Gen 9: "BUT NOT FOR ME."

  • @Jukem
    @Jukem Рік тому

    Yo Pokkén mention no way (great video!!)

  • @nintenster
    @nintenster Рік тому

    Having watched the recent ADV tournament.
    I knew it was gona be a LONG gen3 section.

  • @luckylarue7885
    @luckylarue7885 Рік тому +1

    BKC gifting us 15 mins of advance info

  • @olivergro7105
    @olivergro7105 Рік тому

    man youve nailed the names

  • @Aegis_1934
    @Aegis_1934 Рік тому

    I played Pokken competitively for 3 or 4 years and I think the way Suicune fit into the meta in that game was very interesting! From 2016 to 2017, on the Wii U edition of the game Suicune was very dominant in tournament play. While people were learning the game and its systems, Suicune had very strong keepaway and high damage; and since players weren't very good yet they couldn't effectively exploit its weaknesses yet. Come 2018 onward though, it had a lot of glaring flaws like slow moves that were unsafe on block and a collection of bad matchups against the top tiers.
    When Pokken DX released, Suicune got significant buffs that patched up its bad matchups and brought it up to be a solid mid tier. High damage and good keepaway with lots of ways to prey on a players reaction speed. It's probably the easiest zoner in the game to pick up, but its also very technical still since confirming single hits with small cancel windows is very difficult. Suicune is a very neat defensive character for sure.

  • @bazzam429
    @bazzam429 6 місяців тому

    I manged to download the event rom for the shiny Suicune, Entei, and Raikou a few months back for HGSS, i managed the get a Suicune with 31 IVs in both defenses and Hp. Currently using it as a ribbon master, as someone who never really paid attention to suicune, its really fun to use in battle lol. I haven't played gen 9 yet, but you bet your sweet bippy im getting my hands on a walking wake!

  • @anurbanskier
    @anurbanskier Рік тому

    Even tho I have never played a game of ADV OU, after watching ADV Revival, I feel like I know everything that’s going on in the gen 3 discussion

  • @gregorymirabella1423
    @gregorymirabella1423 Рік тому +2

    27:44 minor audio mistake? unsubbed.
    in all seriousness i was glad to see another mon get the remake it deserved. gengar or arcanine would be great for the next one.

  • @TwoToneHatch
    @TwoToneHatch Рік тому

    I log into UA-cam and see a Suicune video, I instantly click.

  • @sagetmaster4
    @sagetmaster4 Рік тому +2

    One of my absolute favorites to use in competitive

  • @ShadyHitchhiker
    @ShadyHitchhiker Рік тому +1

    These are great as always, but when you have a Pokémon who has fairly wide usage the sections where you list PLAYERNAME, PLACEMENT for minutes on end, i mash on fast forward until we're back in the analysis

    • @Deoix9877
      @Deoix9877 4 місяці тому

      I think they expect people doing that, which is why they name all the placements at the end of the section of each genration, so you can safely skip to the next section without missing anything if is not something you are interested in

  • @thegreatmilkguitar
    @thegreatmilkguitar Рік тому

    Tiger woods when he sees his opponent throw out suicune:

  • @darko-man8549
    @darko-man8549 Рік тому

    Perfect video for my opening shift on NYE

  • @The_Jho
    @The_Jho Рік тому

    “It wound up in RU, as unfathomable as RU Suicune was-“
    Terrakion one generation later

  • @chrqm
    @chrqm Рік тому

    ive been waiting for this video for so long

  • @jesuisunstroopwafel
    @jesuisunstroopwafel Рік тому +1

    Walking Wake, more like Walking on your enemies.

  • @Nightmareblackop
    @Nightmareblackop Рік тому +1

    Suicune the definition of Bulky Water

  • @PhilHarmon1
    @PhilHarmon1 Рік тому

    When i started competetive, there was the saying ,,Calm Mind Cune has no weakness" (Gen3)
    But to me it started to get dirty in Gen1 with Scald.

  • @md.controlled
    @md.controlled Рік тому +1

    JimothyGaming was featured 🙏

  • @jamesgiles4517
    @jamesgiles4517 Рік тому

    Cant wait for the terrakion video where it just dropped down to PU 😂

  • @playersnake
    @playersnake Рік тому +10

    Please do a theorem video explaining the impact of entry hazards (forretress theorem)
    or
    A theorem going over priority moves could also be cool (Scizor theorem)

    • @15MinuteUpload
      @15MinuteUpload Рік тому +6

      Didn't they already do field effects, which includes hazards?

    • @playersnake
      @playersnake Рік тому +1

      @@15MinuteUpload I was talking how like spikes, stealth rocks and others

    • @mattbernacki9282
      @mattbernacki9282 Рік тому

      ​@@playersnake that was part of the field conditions video, it was basically half of the video.

  • @lindsaywheatcroft8247
    @lindsaywheatcroft8247 9 місяців тому +2

    Did Dream Eater counter rest talk?

  • @TheHero136
    @TheHero136 Рік тому +10

    In National Dex. Walking Wake is banned for being so hard to switch into since weather teams are a lot stronger here.

    • @Maaarrrrk
      @Maaarrrrk Рік тому +4

      Well, yeah... a water stab that gets boosted in rain or sun

    • @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions
      @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions Рік тому +5

      It's also neet that with Walking Wake, Sun teams can have a functional Fire/Water/Grass core!

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

      @@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions So who’s the Grass? Scovillain?

    • @3004Kureiji
      @3004Kureiji Рік тому +3

      @@skeetermania3202 any grass type with Chlorophyll works too (eg. Venusaur)

    • @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions
      @ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions Рік тому

      @@skeetermania3202 Like the other person said most grass types work, typically with the Chlorophyll ability.

  • @雪者
    @雪者 Рік тому +2

    You have no idea how fast I clicked on this

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Рік тому

      Faster than Timid Scarf Regieleki?

  • @stockmanprodigy4293
    @stockmanprodigy4293 10 місяців тому

    I know so much random information about almost every pokemon ever yet I never knew suicune was a water type I thought it was ice

  • @ff7hero
    @ff7hero Рік тому

    Maybe both were said, but i remember always hearing that "CalmCune has no weak" referring to Calm Mind rather than a Nature.

  • @theryancola
    @theryancola 3 місяці тому

    Ah yes the legendary beast doggo Susan or Soo-Soon (you can remember that noise in the Sims

  • @DraculOkeanos
    @DraculOkeanos Рік тому

    Sunflora when! We need to be able to watching things in order!

  • @dantockzz1308
    @dantockzz1308 Рік тому

    See you next year False Swipe ❤