How to Assemble AN, Push Loc, PTFE, Crimp Style Fittings and Hose!
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- We get a ton of questions about the difference between PTFE , Standard Braided AN, Push Loc, and Crimp style Hose and Fittings. So we figured we would make a video detailing the difference in assembly, fitting style, line style and more.
Standard Braided AN Line / Hose: Must use Crimp or AN two piece wedge style hose ends. This uses a wedge to lock the hose together with the fitting. Must use rubber inside braided style AN line. Available 4AN 6AN 8AN 10AN 12AN 16AN 20AN and larger in some cases.
PTFE style line 6:30: Must use PTFE style fittings with inner Olive / Ferrule. PTFE line should be conductive style to avoid arcing if used with fuel. PTFE line is much smaller OD than standard braided AN line and can not be used interchangably.
Pushloc 3:10 : Interference barb press on style hose. Not allowed in some classes. Check local rules for usage and legality.
Standard AN braided 13:38
Standard AN braided crimp: 17:00
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Can you use the push lock for fuel line for a LS swap?
Thanks for including pushlock for us poor people!
I have used pushlock on my oil cooler system, my hose shrank some in storage, so it was an absolute PIG to get over the barbs! Even with Silicone lubricant and putting the hose into boiling water! I could only manage 3 or 4 a day, and my system has 12 on it! I did, however, also use stainless steel clamps on all the fittings.
That ptfe fitting jamming the olive in jives me the shivvers - i can just feel the metal braiding going up my fingernail watching this!
I am a new customer due to the way they treat their customers and the informative videos that make it feel hands on and less confusing. I will be using these guys for quite a bit of my 3rd gen Camaro build. Keep up the genuine honest videos guys i appreciate them.
Thank you guys so much for this content extremely helpful for a beginer and even someone with some experience
I was unaware that ptfe hose was different than regular an hose so had to order different fittings for the an hose I ordered, thanks for info.
This is probably the best AN related fitting how to top to bottom I've seen on the net yet. Great stuff man, my first time utilizing PTFE I appreciate the break down !
Great video for the uniformed as well as a great refresher for the occasional user.
Thank you for sharing this information.
I just want to thank you guys for doing this video because I'm new to the a.m. fitting stuff and I appreciate it
Thank you for the detail explanation, very useful for beginners!
Thank you for this valuable info. I didn't know that there was a difference between PTFE and regular braided hoses and that the fittings were not interchangeable.
Love watching 4 wide racing ,must be intense and full of adrenalin. Love your work Clay. Looking forward to race day
I've seen a lot of how to videos for auto RnR. Great job, very direct and clear. Thank you.
Appreciate the video. Helped a lot. Was able to build my power steering line for my NASCAR LMSC and it came out great!
Awesome video. Now I have a much better understanding of the different fittings and their applications. Thank you.
Legitimately here because I was about to call my supplier and ask wtf fittings he sent me with my hose. Thanks man! It sounds like you've picked up quite a few questions from people like me.
Nice video! Thank you for breaking down each hoses specs
Nice video, thanks for taking the time doing this. I have had great luck with Aeroquip AN hose and fittings. Pretty easy to assemble and bulletproof. Used a hacksaw to cut it after wrapping with duck tape. I have had this hose on my '94 Z28 for about 20 yrs with no problems whatsoever. I noticed the prices on this stuff have gone thru the roof.
Good to know I did the PTFE fittings halfway right on my build, I whacked it on the ground until that metal ring was flush against the fuel line, no leaks!
Thank you, I needed this crash course.
Very informative 👏 video. Now that I have a better understanding, It will make it easier selecting the right fittings and hoses.
That was extremely well done, good work!
Great Video, Thanks for Going In-Depth Much Appreciated
Great video! In the process of making ptfe trans cooler lines for my XJ.
thank you for such a great vid! it really helped me with the PTFD setup.
thanks i just got some 10 and 8 an braided lines for my diesel and was familiar with them but now know everything i wanna know! thanks
Great informative video !! Thanks alot, found what i was searching for!!
very informative for new users of an fittings
I’m just glad you made this video!!
Thanks for sharing, an informative video without any schmaltz.
excellent work and very informative
Excellent video!! Point blank video, point blank comment, love it
Those cutters are awesome! When you don't pay your bill at the shop, fingers comes off so easy. 🤘
im still saving up for a pair.
One of the best out there to explain easy and fast without any annoying talk about something elso or some sponsor shit.
Straight to the point. Good!
One tip is to use a bit of electrical tejp to just se if the hose is mowing away from the fitting. just take a bit and place right behind the fitting. Then you can see if the hose is all the way in or you should redo the work.
Angle grinder and so is a bad idé. They just send small stuff inside the hose and that is going inside yours injectors. The fuel filter will not take all of that.
just learned the difference before i spend lots on the wrong parts.thanx
My god i love this! Great video! Now i can put my oil feed system together myself!
Great video! Thanks for putting this together
Appreciate you fellas videos👍
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Thanks for the info very informative
Thanks Doug!!! You rock!
extremely helpful video, thank you!
Great information!
Always great videos.
The poor dog was dying to get through that door.
Excellent video as always! Could you possibly go over in one of your future videos, mechanical pump setups (ie the mounting options both on the engine and also cable drive rear mount setups, and everything that goes along with mechanical pump methanol deals)
Definitely! We have some new advancements coming soon. We will wait til those are out
I've had a leak from a push lock fitting on an oil cooler for a drift car I crewed for. It was miserable to assemble and came apart at a terrible time. It coated the car (including front tires) but didn't result in a crash. We did have a magazine shoot with Super Street scheduled an hour later and it was a mad dash to clean the car up for golden hour. We also smoked a journal bearing turbo shortly after and I can only assume it was the cause.
Thank you for this guys
After chasing leaking fittings forever it finally makes sense. My cheap kit came with PTFE lines and regular AN fittings... No wonder it leaked.
learned a trick from a guy who ran a Pontiac nostalgic top fuel dragster on metal braided AN hose, put just a little bit of electrical tape on the end (one, maybe two layers). Keeps the braid from fraying out and going crazy when you are assembling the hose, and doesn't interfere with it staying sealed.
Use PTFE plumbers tape - no residue and it comes off super easily :)
Great video,helped alot
I was able to get a clean cut on AN6 braided hose using some bolt cutters I had lying around. (I also tried to get tree branch loppers to work, but they couldn't cut through.) The bolt cutters worked well, but probably wouldn't work on anything larger than AN6 (3/8").
Great video !!! Thanks
Great video and very well explained.
11:25 Carbon fiber is electrically conductive. I haven't seen any indication of the Nomar wrenches being electrically insulated
I was gonna say that. 😂 💥
thanks learned just what i needed to know
Have used Aeroquip push lock when making oil cooler lines,250psi bursting pressure -30/ 300'f when assembled properly with a slimmer fitting profile so don't be put off by them.
Warming the end of the line in hot water does make life easier.
Amazing how they seal/work but they do.
Agreed, they’re my favorite personally. But I also put crimp clamps on them also for an extra piece of mine.
Anyway, you can make a variety pack of fittings that dosent break the bank. Probably not just thought iwould ask. Great video by the way.
If you don't do it already you should sell a kit of hoses with crimped ends on it already to go on your website that way you have another product but it will save a bunch of driveway builders a bunch of time and headache of having to put certain ends on certain hoses and killing their hands and save them from hunting down tools you don't have and so on plus crimped end hoses are pretty universal and like you said it's one of the best ways to make an end for a hose if you have the very expensive crimper
It is VERY important to make certain that every single wire of the SS braid on the PTFE hose is OUTSIDE the Olive/Ferrell. Otherwise, you WILL get a leak! It's easier to get it right on the larger PTFE hoses, but also easy to get it wrong on the small size 3 hose.
Very nice video, explaining very well how to fit those fitting. one question, I had the impression PTFE is not suitable for power steering , what is the maximum pressure PTFE could take ? Thank you !
Cutting stainless braided PTFE was the bane of my existence at times. Sometimes it would fray no matter what you did. We got a nice set of cutters and they were dull out of the box. Sharpened them up and they dulled again quickly. When the outer stainless frays its impossible to get a crimp fitting on it, and the covering will stab the ever living crap out of your fingers.
Oh, another note about PTFE nominal sizing. On most hoses -10 is 5/8 ID. On PTFE -10 is (usually) ~1/2" ID. Nominal sizing on PTFE always was a headache. If someone needed actual 1/4" then they needed -05, so the crimp fitting was a 5 hose 4 swivel.
Wrap some teflon plumbers tape over the braid before you cut it. Doesn't leave a residue like electrical tape and is super easy to remove.
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Push lock is easier when using boiling water to heat the hose. A little soap on the fittings helps. Napa sells a heat shrink clamp that works really well with this system.
Depending on who’s brand push lock hose you’re interested in purchasing, you should check to see if it’s compatible with gasoline. Some push lock hose is not compatible with modern gasoline and was never intended to be used for that.
I pressure test hoses after assembly and when I received my first high pressure pump and made my first test fixture the first thing I tested was push lock hose. The working pressure of the test piece was 250 psi, the test pressure should have been 500 psi and the burst pressure should have been 1000 psi. This piece of push lock hose burst at 1300 psi. It is not intended for high temperature, I never recommend you use it for a coolant hose. There are enough errors in this presentation from this man to lead you down the wrong path on many items. What I recommend is that you read a lot and understand what you’re doing or get someone at a hose company that knows what to do. The biggest problem we have with racers is that they think they know what they’re doing and they end up bringing half the stuff back because they ordered it wrong. If you are cutting PTFE hose, use filament tape at the area where you’re going to cut and cut through the filament tape. Leave the tape on the cut until you’re ready to assemble the fitting, one end of the braids will be tight against the PTFE and the other end it will flare out away from it. That is why you only saw him do one end of the hose. I don’t feel like going on for an hour or so I’m quitting now. He means well. Follow any guidelines you can find from Aeroquip. Basically everything is on UA-cam.
Thanks 👍
I would love to hear the answer once and for all about push lock. Can you use a standard 5/8 heater hose and a push lock fitting? You mention nylon braided, but not all coolant hose has it. Thanks for the awesome video
No. Pushlok fittings can only be used on sae R6 hose.
excellent video, cleared this up for me heaps, was unsure which way to go, now i can build the right setup, but what about fittings going from 6an fuel rail in say fitting a aftermarket sr20 fuel rail with 6an fittings, then connecting them to the stock fuel lines when just running pump fuel, what do you recommend to make it the easiest way possible, without cutting stock fuel lines and having to flare them if thats possible at all? would barbed be the best option there then?
I used regular an fittings on ptfe stainless braided hose, it sealed just fine for me. NOTE I did this before I knew there were different types!
Thank You
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Nylon braided hose is the easiest and works great.
Thanks 🙌🏻🙌🏻
very informative and useful, lol @ the dog look at the camera like "somebody open this door" @6:12
great explanation. will the ptfe work on a high pressure power rack front suspension?
Good video, great info as always guys, audio is really pitchy though.
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How do you transition to hooking onto the fuel tank and fuel pump ? Can you just slide open hose end on and use hose clamps? Thanks for video
Push Lock is a MFer, So I used PL hose and standard braided blue/red style fitting for 42psi fuel.... been working for years. I have seen braided steel hose cut with a chisle and hammer strike. Sooo clean a cut and no debrise
Steel braided (Non-PTFE) connects the same as the nylon hose? P.S great video, I learnt a lot in those few minutes and saved a few dollars as well!
Hey how’s it goin. Do you guys have any suspension or set up tips for gassers? Would love to see what you have to say. I’m tacking my ladder bar kit together. It’s a 56 Chevy Stepside. Would like to do drag week someday. Never drag raced.
I used Fragola PTFE fittings and hose..my issue was I had to trim the steel braid back to where the olive stopped tapering..if i left it even with the inner and outer they would not go to together. I even got the instructions from Fragola and they recommended to cut the braid back some.
I could def see that being helpful!
I had to call them for instructions no one I knew ever made them lines up
Can you use push to lock hose on a regular AN fitting? Or is there a difference in hose diameter both inside and out - overall? I have push-lock hose but I bought the nylon braiding sleeve to put over it but just need to know what fittings I can use? I actually have a box of fittings (AN) that I was hoping to be able to use on the push-lock but after watching your video I’m assuming I cannot do that because each fitting has a specific hose for them except where you stated those two fittings can use the same hose. Thanks for an awesome detailed video!!!
In plumbing we would call that olive/pearl a "ferrule" fair-ul
Chris V yes sir, same in this. But for some reason everyone calls it an olive, so we just go along with what makes people happy lol
Motion Raceworks Official in Germany we call it olive too :D
One thing he didn't mention was that there are some very thin copper sealing cup washers that are needed where the PTFE union screws onto the male-mail threaded fitting that goes into the engine block or oil cooler adapter etc
Does the push lock style require a special hose? Or will any auto parts store hose work? Obviously the correct size
@Motion Raceworks... How do you disassemble a regular AN fitting? I made my fuel rail crossover too long, tried to undo the fitting, but the hose just spins. 😒 I didn't try any more, figured I should research first lol.
Also... Any tips on correctly measuring line length between fittings, for the future?
Just in case you decide to test it: carbon fibre is in fact conductive. If there’s a heap of resin it isn’t but any fairly lightweight carbon parts will generally short with a car battery.
If I had a nickel for every time in stabbed my finger into the wires of a steel braided hose I’d still be broke
I have a question where I have used this before but not long enough to know how it's going to hold up so far. I've use a heat gun and the fittings will go on very easily whether the heat is going to affect it later I don't know but my main question is using a hose clamp on top of this should that help it or hurt it? Also already know what you're going to say but have you had any experience with eBay Hose & Fittings being that they are cheaper and I know you get what you pay for but when you are on a budget fittings and hoses are very expensive it can nickel and dime you to death what do you think about the eBay stuff
Would using a hose clamp on a push lock be effective when using high PSI applications?
Is the standard AN using the black nylon hose air tight? Able to used for turbo coolant lines?
Hey Doug do you guise sell the hose cutters what you used in this video?
I'm replacing the Charcoal (Vapor) canister on 2001 Saturn SL2, and I observed that the Vapor Canister Tube is kind of worn (I also slightly punched it with a hook during the removal on one end). I can't find that part (which is actually just a piece of house 5/8 ID bent in a smooth way under ~90 degrees and ~5-6 in in length). Can I replace it w/ a piece of 5/8 push on house (fm/Amazon). It looks exactly the same. The name of that hose is Fuel Line 5/8" ID NBR Hose 10 AN Push on Hose 0.9 OD for Small Engines, Fuel Systems, E85, E10, Coolants, Oil, Air, Methanol and Lubricant, 3 feet. Operating pressure 2 MPa (~290 psi). Or it is better to glue the original hose (tube, I think it is called Vapor Canister Tube) w/smth like gasket maker and keep it? The tube is attached to the Canister by sliding and applying a clip. Thank you for the film.
When assembling the PTFE and AN fittings, you should probably rotate the nut, not the fitting, or the end barb will rotate inside the hose. In the end this friction will work against the torque of the nut/fitting and possibly damage the hose.
PTFE... friction... you're more likely to distort the braid by turning the nut? Most manufacturers appear to recommend clamping the nut and turning the male side when it comes to PTFE hoses
Can you use push lock for an after cooling system for a home compressor. I have a trans cooler to help cool down the compressed air and the ends are 8 AN. I want to connect a system that is as basic and cheap as possible, but safe and I am struggling with which materials to utilize to achieve my goal.
How does heating the hose with hot water change the temperature? The fluid in a car get hotter than water at times. No?
Thanks for this video.
I have a 8AN braided hose I built and am trying to adapt it to a 1/2" aluminum hardline.. I bought a nut/sleeve compression fitting for it but it just slides right off.. Maybe I bought the wrong type of fitting.. Do you have any suggestions?
You need to put a "bead" at the end of your hard-line. You will need a "tubing beader" tool for that
Do you guys build the lines for customers if asked for?
The power steering system i am making is 110 bar (1600psi) - which of these do you reccomend? I was hoping to use a rubber style, but doesn't look like those go above 500 psi.
How do you install a fuel line retainer clip
So i have a 95 toyota pickup, and I had to drop my tank to fix some wires after a rat chewed on them. I also decided to change my fuel tube that runs from the pump to the fuel line because it's nearly 30 years old and is severely corroded and just looks bad. I can't find it any cheaper than $90 so that lead me to the alternative of building it, and now im considering just changing the entire line all the way to the engine, I'm just not sure what my best option is yet. The line uses M14x1.5 fittings, and I can not find them locally anymore. What would you all suggest? TIA.
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