It made me so excited to start the grind, I’m probably 3-5 attempts from finally getting the quiver, the practice will hopefully make the inferno much easier
This is the wildest crossover I have ever seen in youtube. Never expected Kairos to play runescape, let alone finish the inferno. Big fan and big congratulations on the cape.
@@danielzavalahuerta How is the quiver coming along? It will help for Inferno but there is different mechanics for sure. Also an endurance test at the start. Just never give up, I'm pretty bad at flicking but I eventually got it. I firmly believe anyone who takes the time or has the dedication can and will finish it.
the fact they learned from their mistake in eoc and now listen to the playerbase with polls is really refreshing and makes me glad i was here since 2007
is this why the game already died and now is full of sweats/bots??? bond 14m HELLO???? i dont want kierenscape, i want gowerscape, kieren is dogshit trash. btw whats ur total? 600? i got 3 max capes, game dead long time ago you bozo
The work Kieran and Ash (and hell I'll throw the work Matt K did as well) have literally saved the game I have loved since I was a kid and I cannot thank them enough for that. Life is complicated and osrs certainly helps make it more fun.
As someone who plays OSRS AND PLAYED WoW in the past, it was so refreshing to hear a game dev be candid and say where they may have messed up, where they did something right, and even sharing their own opinion on whether certain updates were good or not. So glad to be playing a game that has Devs that are passionate about the game, and are given to speak their mind about the game!
This is a banger. Must have listened to it at least 4 times now. Hearing some of the stories like the inferno design is awesome. Thanks for the content dude!
The solo olm fight is my absolute most favorite thing to do in the game. Really cool to see that it was Kieren that pretty much designed the whole rooms mechanics. Big love to the man
This interview was great because Mod Kieren is so knowledgable and passionate about what he is working on, and Sae Bae gave him the right prompts and plenty of room to talk about them without interupting or making it about himself. This is how interviews should be done
This is the first cast I've watched extensively as I'm not really a podcast type guy and don't have much time to listen to in on things like this but I'm very impressed with this. I've always admired Mod Kieran as much as God Ash and I have to say you do a really good job of talking with them, wonderful devs, we're lucky to have them.
Okay and now time for my real comment. Best cast yet in my opinion. You 2 were able to have counter arguments that actually move the conversations forward instead of going around in circles. The amount of knowledge and the perspective he has on the game/ community is unmatched. Thank you guys both for getting me through my work day.
got my infernal cape 2 days ago, 60 attempts or so, was locked there for a month, It was amazing!!! everything that a wave based challenge should be. :D thanks so much Kieren, so so so happy about getting it, feel like such a gamer now too
Awesome cast! It's super cool hearing Kieren's point of view and those stories about him designing Olm and Zuk were so fun! Listening to him gives me a lot of faith that the game is headed in a good direction. Even if I don't always agree with the decisions they make it's clear they put a lot of care and thought into every change and update.
Regarding the tick-manipulation Granite mining discussion at around the 2:00:00 mark: Imagine you could use a Rock Hammer on a piece of Granite, to instantly destroy it, while also starting a 3-tick action, similar to Knife-Log or Herb-Tar. This would change the skilling loop from [Click knife->Click logs->Click the next rocks-> Drop granite -> Click the next rock again], to [Click rock hammer -> Click granite (destroyed, starts 3 tick action) -> Click the next rocks]. This way you could have a more thematically incorporated method, that keeps the rhytmic element, but without the constant clicking and dropping. Your inventory would only fill up if you're using a Varrock Body to get the extra rolls, and at that point, you're chosing to use the Body for more xp. Also, destroying or dropping some extra granite every ~10 succesfully mined rocks isn't that big a deal.
Regarding grandmaster clues. Instead of sacrificing caskets, you should have to sacrifice x amount of clue items. like one clue item from each tier. It will act as an item sink.
Gonna watch this in a few times, but first part was already amazing. Kieren is a man we can trust as a community. Big thanks for caring about the game!
I love Mod Kierran, I've Been a long time fan of his! I was introduced to him during the "Godsword set from scratch" Series on an old Runescape channel called RuneShark.
Great Cast, Mod Kieren is a very eloquent person and his mindset towards game design is really deep. He understands that ingenuity with game mechanics should be rewarded, even if it was outside the intended way to finish encounters.
So i have some arguments for clues. I am one of the few people that actually teleports to a bank to go drop my clue there when i get one during a task. I often stack 4-6 clues. It does feel wonky to drop them and it feels even worse on phone than on pc. So stackable with a 10 limit feels a good solution. As for clue rewards, just increase the base high alch price. Some of these rare items are ridiculously low. This should fix some things slightly.
Just finished this and I gotta say this is one of my favorite podcasts/interviews with one of the jagex mods, other than Mod Ash’s interview with Shauny. Kieren is so good for the game and it really is so funny to hear him talk so honestly about how annoying and frustrating some parts of the game can be. It’s always really refreshing when the the developers are in tune with the players and can lead the other developers with the “pillar” idea he was talking of.
I can't speak for everyone but I know I used to click every sae bae vid when I saw it come out. Now I see sooo many of them I'm less eager to click unless its someone I'm hyped for. Just my own perspective on this UA-cam Algorithm supressing your vids.
Loved this cast, Would love to see Kieren go back and re-visit the PNM drops and make them 1/50-1/75. Rip that band-aid off. Yes some people lose money and yes some people 'wasted' hours, but its better for the whole of the game and the longterm health.
I don't play video games at all but I always enjoy watching osrs UA-cam content and following the development of old school. Holy shit it's amazing seeing how passionate mod Kieran is about the game, you can literally hear it in his voice. It's so refreshing and different from redditors and high level pvmers just bitching all the time
Lfg!! ❤️ another banger Hey Man I just wanted to let you know my son Daimen showed his osrs friends at school the episode where you gave him a shout out and they absolutely freaked out 🤣 so awesome to have a content creator that the younger generation can look up to ❤️ thank you again
Inferno release was awesome. I hadn’t played old school at all but it brought the game to my attention. Later on there was a twitch promo for one week membership and after a little bit of rs3 I switched over to OS with a goal of beating the inferno. Now I’m trapped here 😂
Mod Kieren speaks, I listen. I've been following video game development my entire life and Mod Kieren is amongst those I respect the most. He gives a shit, plain and simple. This isn't a job for him, this game is his passion, and it shows through his work.
Isn’t the issue with not losing points in raids from deaths that you can just repeatedly die at a high point sector? So if you get more points off of wardens for instance, you can just farm deaths there, and then get close to 100% drop chance?
Crazy how rs went from only having god ash to now having god kieran, were really doin pretty good esp when you look at any other game and their clueless passionless devs
Designing high intensity skilling content is an interesting design space. I personally dislike the tick manipulation mechanic, but I think Hallowed Sepulchre is a great example of high intensity skilling content! Maybe engaging is the keyword. I also kind of took for granted that you can stop in between floors to take a drink or eat some food like Kieren was referring to. It's a great way to break up the intensity. I do agree with the dropping point and clicking intensity of 3-ticking and such. Great point of view.
I don't mind stackable clues. Mostly because I dislike the whole "stop what you're doing and do the clue instead right now!" angle, biggest reason why I haven't done many clues. But to the comment that it may "devalue" the drops from clues, I would like to say that there is an easy fix for that - that is - just add more rewards. Clues for me is fun items, rare items and cosmetics. I think that the clues should get periodic updates with more items whenever some new clue steps are introduced, so that it's always fresh and that the drop table doesn't die out from saturation (which is basically what has happened for most of the items on the lower tier clues)
Honestly didn't like some of the answers in this. His take on The Nightmare is the trolley problem with it running through the many rather than the one. Also by his logic, the people who dont own those items are at an unfair advantage compared to those that do. Basically the opposite of what he claims where those that do own it get "screwed" when it becomes more common.
1:39:13 I think that the "Colosseum wasn't made to be endless" is kinda funny, when the whole pitch of the content was to be that, or at least the Risk vs Reward part. I think it can be done and even with the current format, however I'd like to see some real bosses in the waves and not inferno rehash all over again for the endless modes. I'd like to see multiple bosses like Sol, or maybe Hunllef and so on, where the endless mode would just add more abilities to them and increase their HP. Something like that would be fun. 2:24:54 I also agree that just getting drops is the fun part of the content. I don't mind that Chambers has a bunch of things on the drop table, the issue is that the drop rate itself of getting anything is terrible. I liked ToA's purple rates at higher invos (although, definitely think the lower invos should nerfed like crazy except maybe only being able to get fang and lightbearer, but i digress) because that made the content way more enjoyable than all of the chambers I've done. I do CoX and Phosani's just because the boss fights are fun, the drops are terrible and I wouldn't do it for that reason alone anymore.
Stackable clues would be the best update to come to OSRS. De-gearing to go do clues is the worst feeling ever. Those who want to do clues immediately would lose nothing, and those who want to save them up and make it more of a focused activity after stacking to the limit would be happier.
there should be a league called 'Busted League' where the game has so many relics and so insane of an xp boost and increased drop rates etc. that players that play the most during it literally stand a chance to 100% the game more or less
2:45:00 Stackable clues is a great idea, because nobody wants to see "oh you have a funny feeling you would of gotten so and so clue" just because u have 1 in the bank. Not only that but for stylized accounts like ours who often get steps they cannot accomplish, it would make it easier for them too. You mentioned something about how maybe the amount of stackable clues changes, that's a great idea. Why? Because people could be rewarded for how many clue scrolls they do. Maybe after certain thresholds we unlock the ability to carry more clue scrolls. Like 50 = 5 for instance. That incentivizes players to want to do more clues straight away.
On the comp cape thing you could do a base comp cape. Where they list a bunch of things, complete 80% of that list. Then you can get a trimmed comp cape at like 90% but then it’s frozen at the current time. And then once a year they add like a 24,25,26 that just adds a small number or a little flair or frill onto the cape then in 10 years do a reset where they then update the base to 60-70% of the new list etc.
One argument about harm orb "losing players tons of money" if it were made more common: It is already a risky item to hold onto. Your average joe isn't holding onto it; prospective merchers or endgame players who already own everything are the ones with it. It's not like a dragonhunter lance, an item that is used by LOADS of "middle class players" in earnest as a stepping stone. It is an extravagent meme item that is basically useless atm, akin to 3rd age. MORE people get screwed out of items every big boss release where crush is (once again) not a solid option, or where rapier remains useless, or where fang fills the niche better than targeted niche items. When a new raid comes out and a previously valuable item over 100-200m is not used and drops all the way down to 30m. I don't like the argument about "it's tradeable" holding Jagex back from making healthy changes.
i could see having pvm content with a bit of skilling in it. example a boss/monter in a forest walking around. you need to use hunter to track it. then you can kill the thing. then track again that could be his non waiting respawn time. also i consept of having agility dodge or reduce dammage at some pvm or skilling content.
I always felt that stackable clues should be linked to the collection log. Like for every 100/150/200 slots you get an additional stackable clue unlock etc.
Kieren outright saying we wouldn't have the nightmare rates the way they are if they were to release it today is indicative that we NEED to triple the rates. If they're concerned about ge value then make the gear more useful!
I agree that it should be more common but if they did do that AND make it more powerful it would be farmed until the ge price no longer reflected the actual value of the items. It would essentially devalue inq from a gp perspective
Alright I'll just say it now. This was the best Sae Bae cast yet. I can listen to Mod Kieren talk for hours
legit always love the dev ones
This one and Mat K blow the others out of the water.
@@ik9363 definitely ex and current devs opinions are golden such a level headed non bias approach to the future of the game
Facts we are so lucky to have him not only as a dev but as a lead
I've really loved listening to this one as well as Mod Ash's one recently, that and bigger content creators like Settled, B0aty & Solo Mission
I beat the inferno for the 1st time TODAY, so listening to the conversation about the creation of the Inferno was great! Thanks for sharing!
It made me so excited to start the grind, I’m probably 3-5 attempts from finally getting the quiver, the practice will hopefully make the inferno much easier
@@danielzavalahuerta it will bro, you got this
This is the wildest crossover I have ever seen in youtube. Never expected Kairos to play runescape, let alone finish the inferno. Big fan and big congratulations on the cape.
Congrats brother.
@@danielzavalahuerta How is the quiver coming along?
It will help for Inferno but there is different mechanics for sure. Also an endurance test at the start.
Just never give up, I'm pretty bad at flicking but I eventually got it. I firmly believe anyone who takes the time or has the dedication can and will finish it.
We are so lucky to have developers who actually care about the game they are working on.
the fact they learned from their mistake in eoc and now listen to the playerbase with polls is really refreshing and makes me glad i was here since 2007
BBC b
is this why the game already died and now is full of sweats/bots??? bond 14m HELLO????
i dont want kierenscape, i want gowerscape, kieren is dogshit trash. btw whats ur total? 600? i got 3 max capes, game dead long time ago you bozo
The work Kieran and Ash (and hell I'll throw the work Matt K did as well) have literally saved the game I have loved since I was a kid and I cannot thank them enough for that. Life is complicated and osrs certainly helps make it more fun.
Agreed
Try playing Forza Horizon 2-4. The game makes me feel like a child again even though it wasn’t a huge part of it…
This was the best OSRS podcast I've ever heard. I listen to the entire thing all the way through in one go, Kieren is fantastic.
Omg I'm so excited. Mod kieren is my fav dev, he has so much passion for the game and has made some amazing content. I can't wait to dive into this.
a true Legend
As someone who plays OSRS AND PLAYED WoW in the past, it was so refreshing to hear a game dev be candid and say where they may have messed up, where they did something right, and even sharing their own opinion on whether certain updates were good or not. So glad to be playing a game that has Devs that are passionate about the game, and are given to speak their mind about the game!
This is why we are blessed. I play both too and its honestly night/day. And this team use to be so small.
@@TheUhmmmmmmmm agreed!
This interview makes me so happy that Kieren is in a leaddership role. The game we love is in good hands!!!
This is a banger. Must have listened to it at least 4 times now. Hearing some of the stories like the inferno design is awesome. Thanks for the content dude!
Always appreciate the big support from you! Thanks!! 😊
You can tell Kieren grew up loving the game, and still loves it as much as he did back in the day.
The solo olm fight is my absolute most favorite thing to do in the game. Really cool to see that it was Kieren that pretty much designed the whole rooms mechanics. Big love to the man
having the time stamps is a super nice touch! I know that it takes a lot of time to do them properly but this one is perfect!
Holy shit, so glad to see mod Kieren. Used to watch fairytalesrs way back in the runeshark days. Love the cast
This interview was great because Mod Kieren is so knowledgable and passionate about what he is working on, and Sae Bae gave him the right prompts and plenty of room to talk about them without interupting or making it about himself. This is how interviews should be done
This is the first cast I've watched extensively as I'm not really a podcast type guy and don't have much time to listen to in on things like this but I'm very impressed with this. I've always admired Mod Kieran as much as God Ash and I have to say you do a really good job of talking with them, wonderful devs, we're lucky to have them.
Amazing cast. We are so lucky to have Mod Kieren. He is so passionate about the game and such a smart and hard working dude. Thank you Kieren!
I am grateful for mod Kieran and Ash.
I’ve never been more excited for an episode.
same, been waiting forever for this one
Been looking forward for this one for a LONG time.
Will listen in the car while driving to work
Okay and now time for my real comment.
Best cast yet in my opinion. You 2 were able to have counter arguments that actually move the conversations forward instead of going around in circles. The amount of knowledge and the perspective he has on the game/ community is unmatched. Thank you guys both for getting me through my work day.
got my infernal cape 2 days ago, 60 attempts or so, was locked there for a month, It was amazing!!! everything that a wave based challenge should be. :D thanks so much Kieren,
so so so happy about getting it, feel like such a gamer now too
the journey was painful, but man was the reward good
@@colonian83 oh man that feeling that moment of triumph, what built up to it, i'll never forget it aye
And now owning an infernal cape, its so hype
Mod Kieren the GOAT! Can't wait to listen!
One of the best guests to possibly have! Congrats Sae!
Awesome cast! It's super cool hearing Kieren's point of view and those stories about him designing Olm and Zuk were so fun! Listening to him gives me a lot of faith that the game is headed in a good direction. Even if I don't always agree with the decisions they make it's clear they put a lot of care and thought into every change and update.
Regarding the tick-manipulation Granite mining discussion at around the 2:00:00 mark:
Imagine you could use a Rock Hammer on a piece of Granite, to instantly destroy it, while also starting a 3-tick action, similar to Knife-Log or Herb-Tar. This would change the skilling loop from [Click knife->Click logs->Click the next rocks-> Drop granite -> Click the next rock again], to [Click rock hammer -> Click granite (destroyed, starts 3 tick action) -> Click the next rocks].
This way you could have a more thematically incorporated method, that keeps the rhytmic element, but without the constant clicking and dropping. Your inventory would only fill up if you're using a Varrock Body to get the extra rolls, and at that point, you're chosing to use the Body for more xp. Also, destroying or dropping some extra granite every ~10 succesfully mined rocks isn't that big a deal.
Regarding grandmaster clues. Instead of sacrificing caskets, you should have to sacrifice x amount of clue items. like one clue item from each tier. It will act as an item sink.
Very thankful for Kieren’s expertise, viewpoints, and overall love and respect for the game and for the players!
A good 3 hours spent. Thank you for hanging out with me this morning!
one of your best to date... great to hear about the inner thought process of the creative process at jagex
Amazing podcast man. Mod Kieren deserves the same praise Ash gets. Great interviewing work on your part too, keep it up man!
Gonna watch this in a few times, but first part was already amazing. Kieren is a man we can trust as a community. Big thanks for caring about the game!
I love Mod Kierran, I've Been a long time fan of his! I was introduced to him during the "Godsword set from scratch" Series on an old Runescape channel called RuneShark.
One of the best episodes you've ever done. This is so interesting.
So great to hear his thought process on things, thanks for organizing this one
Great Cast, Mod Kieren is a very eloquent person and his mindset towards game design is really deep. He understands that ingenuity with game mechanics should be rewarded, even if it was outside the intended way to finish encounters.
Slaying it with the cast lately Sae Bae - defintely a channel to sub to in the OSRS Commmunity.
This was such a good episode! What a well spoken mod, great conversation!
Such a good one Sae Bae. Liked/Subbed/Commented. Mod Kieren was great. So cool to hear from the J-Mods!!
Kieren is the GOAT Jmod, and I'm extremely excited to listen to this. Thanks for making my world days more entertaining
So i have some arguments for clues. I am one of the few people that actually teleports to a bank to go drop my clue there when i get one during a task. I often stack 4-6 clues. It does feel wonky to drop them and it feels even worse on phone than on pc. So stackable with a 10 limit feels a good solution.
As for clue rewards, just increase the base high alch price. Some of these rare items are ridiculously low. This should fix some things slightly.
Can also make the trimmed armors smithable in Giant's Foundry.
How could you not love Mod Kieren. Absolute beast!
Super cool episode! These insights are really interesting; great guest and questions!
SUCH a cool episode, so much fun seeing kierans views on the game. Osrs is in good hands!
What a great guest to have. He shaped the direction of osrs, cant wait to listen!
Just finished this and I gotta say this is one of my favorite podcasts/interviews with one of the jagex mods, other than Mod Ash’s interview with Shauny. Kieren is so good for the game and it really is so funny to hear him talk so honestly about how annoying and frustrating some parts of the game can be. It’s always really refreshing when the the developers are in tune with the players and can lead the other developers with the “pillar” idea he was talking of.
I can't speak for everyone but I know I used to click every sae bae vid when I saw it come out. Now I see sooo many of them I'm less eager to click unless its someone I'm hyped for. Just my own perspective on this UA-cam Algorithm supressing your vids.
Fair point, and good to know! I ultimately can't control the algorithm, and my intro's invitation is just trying to add some transparency!
@@Saeder I hope this didn't come off the wrong way. Love the content
@@Saeder yeah your algorithm for me is atleast 2 times a day i see a cast pop up. But thats because i watch all of them plus the old ones.
Loved this cast, Would love to see Kieren go back and re-visit the PNM drops and make them 1/50-1/75. Rip that band-aid off. Yes some people lose money and yes some people 'wasted' hours, but its better for the whole of the game and the longterm health.
mod keiren please stay at jagex for 40 years and create content for ever your the best!
3hrs of entertainment and cozyness, thank you sae bae
I don't play video games at all but I always enjoy watching osrs UA-cam content and following the development of old school. Holy shit it's amazing seeing how passionate mod Kieran is about the game, you can literally hear it in his voice.
It's so refreshing and different from redditors and high level pvmers just bitching all the time
*On Leagues: "The idea was to have a task list that is so extensive you can't ever.. complete it"
*Mazhar has entered the chat*
😆
Who
Lfg!! ❤️ another banger
Hey Man I just wanted to let you know my son Daimen showed his osrs friends at school the episode where you gave him a shout out and they absolutely freaked out 🤣 so awesome to have a content creator that the younger generation can look up to ❤️ thank you again
Thank you for making my boy feel special ❤️ he has very low self esteem I’ve been trying to build him up
Probably not the best to write this here so your kid can see it...
Inferno release was awesome. I hadn’t played old school at all but it brought the game to my attention. Later on there was a twitch promo for one week membership and after a little bit of rs3 I switched over to OS with a goal of beating the inferno. Now I’m trapped here 😂
Mod Kieren speaks, I listen. I've been following video game development my entire life and Mod Kieren is amongst those I respect the most. He gives a shit, plain and simple. This isn't a job for him, this game is his passion, and it shows through his work.
your fashion scape is top tier!! love listening to your vids. keep it up brother! get oda block on next!
Kieren is my favorite Jmod. Absolute goat, he has developed so many good pvm updates.
I love how this sounded like Saeder really tried to push the Chambers death setbacks on Kieren 😂
Brings me back to runeshark days, the OG ironmen
Isn’t the issue with not losing points in raids from deaths that you can just repeatedly die at a high point sector? So if you get more points off of wardens for instance, you can just farm deaths there, and then get close to 100% drop chance?
Mod kieren is one of the goats, side note: guides for us all needs a damn haircut
@GuidesForUsAll
Today I learned the other creatures in Zuk wave attack the shield and not you. Sounds a lot easier now haha
Well they attack the shield until you attack them. Then they switch to you.
@@Saeder Oooh, that makes sense! Thank you :)
The clue "distraction" period has just been moved from mid slayer task to inbetween tasks so fundamentally it's still there
Crazy how rs went from only having god ash to now having god kieran, were really doin pretty good esp when you look at any other game and their clueless passionless devs
what a great thoroughly explained bts on osrs by kieran, much respect
Oh man this is amazing!
Designing high intensity skilling content is an interesting design space. I personally dislike the tick manipulation mechanic, but I think Hallowed Sepulchre is a great example of high intensity skilling content! Maybe engaging is the keyword. I also kind of took for granted that you can stop in between floors to take a drink or eat some food like Kieren was referring to. It's a great way to break up the intensity.
I do agree with the dropping point and clicking intensity of 3-ticking and such. Great point of view.
he is a king! and you are the court wizard sae bae
Yooo Kieren?? This is huge.
I don't mind stackable clues. Mostly because I dislike the whole "stop what you're doing and do the clue instead right now!" angle, biggest reason why I haven't done many clues. But to the comment that it may "devalue" the drops from clues, I would like to say that there is an easy fix for that - that is - just add more rewards. Clues for me is fun items, rare items and cosmetics. I think that the clues should get periodic updates with more items whenever some new clue steps are introduced, so that it's always fresh and that the drop table doesn't die out from saturation (which is basically what has happened for most of the items on the lower tier clues)
Idk if ive heard that arguement before, i have by ever heard cloggers complain about having to grind more🤷♂️
No right and wrong
Just add stackable clues. RS3 did it and it didn’t break anything. This dropping thing is lame.
Honestly didn't like some of the answers in this. His take on The Nightmare is the trolley problem with it running through the many rather than the one. Also by his logic, the people who dont own those items are at an unfair advantage compared to those that do. Basically the opposite of what he claims where those that do own it get "screwed" when it becomes more common.
loved the inferno bit :)
Inferno's polish puts most modern content releases to shame.
Kieren is a beast
wait you have almost full 3a meele?? how many 3a pieces do you have?
5! Platebody, platelegs, kite, mage bottoms, & vambs
sick! looking forward to this
We are lucky he went for a job at Jagex, and then lucky again his talent was recognised and he was put in a position he can continue to shape the game
1:39:13 I think that the "Colosseum wasn't made to be endless" is kinda funny, when the whole pitch of the content was to be that, or at least the Risk vs Reward part. I think it can be done and even with the current format, however I'd like to see some real bosses in the waves and not inferno rehash all over again for the endless modes. I'd like to see multiple bosses like Sol, or maybe Hunllef and so on, where the endless mode would just add more abilities to them and increase their HP. Something like that would be fun.
2:24:54 I also agree that just getting drops is the fun part of the content. I don't mind that Chambers has a bunch of things on the drop table, the issue is that the drop rate itself of getting anything is terrible. I liked ToA's purple rates at higher invos (although, definitely think the lower invos should nerfed like crazy except maybe only being able to get fang and lightbearer, but i digress) because that made the content way more enjoyable than all of the chambers I've done. I do CoX and Phosani's just because the boss fights are fun, the drops are terrible and I wouldn't do it for that reason alone anymore.
Stackable clues would be the best update to come to OSRS. De-gearing to go do clues is the worst feeling ever. Those who want to do clues immediately would lose nothing, and those who want to save them up and make it more of a focused activity after stacking to the limit would be happier.
Epic cast!
jagex should make region and tier based clues if they ever want to make a clue expansion. For example, varlamore easy clues or something like that.
Legendary cast lets go
there should be a league called 'Busted League' where the game has so many relics and so insane of an xp boost and increased drop rates etc. that players that play the most during it literally stand a chance to 100% the game more or less
Any OG RuneShark enjoyers
Can't wait to put this in my ears later 🤤
Edit: PLZ ASH PLZ
I think he mentioned he's tried but Ash is nearly impossible to get on a calendar
@@steadystackin7250 Can we create a GoFundMe to pay for his time? 😆
2:45:00 Stackable clues is a great idea, because nobody wants to see "oh you have a funny feeling you would of gotten so and so clue" just because u have 1 in the bank. Not only that but for stylized accounts like ours who often get steps they cannot accomplish, it would make it easier for them too.
You mentioned something about how maybe the amount of stackable clues changes, that's a great idea. Why? Because people could be rewarded for how many clue scrolls they do. Maybe after certain thresholds we unlock the ability to carry more clue scrolls. Like 50 = 5 for instance. That incentivizes players to want to do more clues straight away.
1:09:35 I selfishly can’t help but wonder how much further ahead we’d be with non-temporary game updates, if leagues just stopped happening
great cast
Love you guys 😊😊
On the comp cape thing you could do a base comp cape. Where they list a bunch of things, complete 80% of that list. Then you can get a trimmed comp cape at like 90% but then it’s frozen at the current time. And then once a year they add like a 24,25,26 that just adds a small number or a little flair or frill onto the cape then in 10 years do a reset where they then update the base to 60-70% of the new list etc.
we love Mod Kieren!!
Loving all the content lately. Could the upcoming secret guest be God Ash himself?
Yooooo path of exile name dropped! I'm also addicted to both POE and OSRS.
One argument about harm orb "losing players tons of money" if it were made more common:
It is already a risky item to hold onto. Your average joe isn't holding onto it; prospective merchers or endgame players who already own everything are the ones with it.
It's not like a dragonhunter lance, an item that is used by LOADS of "middle class players" in earnest as a stepping stone. It is an extravagent meme item that is basically useless atm, akin to 3rd age.
MORE people get screwed out of items every big boss release where crush is (once again) not a solid option, or where rapier remains useless, or where fang fills the niche better than targeted niche items. When a new raid comes out and a previously valuable item over 100-200m is not used and drops all the way down to 30m.
I don't like the argument about "it's tradeable" holding Jagex back from making healthy changes.
Great listen
2:05:03 please i love aerial fishing please update it
i could see having pvm content with a bit of skilling in it. example a boss/monter in a forest walking around. you need to use hunter to track it. then you can kill the thing. then track again that could be his non waiting respawn time. also i consept of having agility dodge or reduce dammage at some pvm or skilling content.
I always felt that stackable clues should be linked to the collection log. Like for every 100/150/200 slots you get an additional stackable clue unlock etc.
Kieren outright saying we wouldn't have the nightmare rates the way they are if they were to release it today is indicative that we NEED to triple the rates. If they're concerned about ge value then make the gear more useful!
I agree that it should be more common but if they did do that AND make it more powerful it would be farmed until the ge price no longer reflected the actual value of the items. It would essentially devalue inq from a gp perspective
1:10:00 : The answer is absolutely yes!
Best cast ever