Hello sir, you mentioned that your power supply has a weird buzzing noise. What kind of noise is it? I bought a Acer Orion 3000 pc, that the PSU has a weird buzzing noise (sound like some small consistant electric shock) even when the pc is turned off. I'm thinking about returning it and buy the Dell XPS as it's on sale right now, and I hope I don't get the same buzzing noise from the PSU that is causing the issue. BTW can the dell PSU be upgraded?
Just now seeing these cooling fan videos as I've ordered a Dell XPS (knowing that's potentially an issue but the specs to price ratio is tough to beat). I saw another video from Optimum Tech and he replaced it with a liquid cooling set-up. It dropped temp by 7-8 degrees and bumped the CPU speed up in the process.
Years later, still helpful. Recently got this computer from a friend and noticed the computer overheating when running games. This cooler is awesome. The video instructions are fantastic, especially since I don’t work on computers. I bought four M3 20mm screws from the hardware store and they worked perfectly. Thank you for this content 🙏
For perspective, I’d boot up a game and the cpu would go immediately to 100°C with the stock pancake heat sink. Now, running my game (Dead by Daylight) on ultra settings it’s hovering at a comfortable 66°C.
@@JSyntax Update, I bought the cooler. As well as a new mobo and case. The average cpu temp now is never over 60 C regardless of load. Its insane to think dell ever thought a pancake cooler would ever suffice.
Just wanted to thank you for this video. I got an XPS 8940 last summer, and only learned about the issues with this computer through troubleshooting it like it was my job. I used your video as a guide to replace the "pancake" cooler with the Noctua cooler and replace the case fan, and it went well. I had done things like swap out hard drives or upgrade RAM on other computers in the past, so this felt kind of "next level", but your instructions were clear and easy to follow. I probably still have some software issues to smooth out for the game I want to run, but I feel like my hardware is sorted. Thanks so much!
Thanks for the video! I decided to upgrade form the stock pancake cooler to the Noctua with the grubscrew method and it worked flawlessly. I am running games 15c cooler! I am also far from being an expert on computers but was still able to follow the simple tutorial. If anyone has any questions on my upgrade feel free to ask
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I don't ever make comments on UA-cam, but you video made my fix so smooth. Got the screws all ready before attempting to setup and it took me just a whooping 30 mins from start to end!
@@markstevens4264 I chose the first method (Non grub) and it wasnt tough at all to get the screws aligned. Don't need to go out of your way to get grub screws in my opinion if it isnt accessible
appreciate the vid managed to get my Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE installed into my Dell G5 with no issues. took a trip down to canadian tire to grab some of those m3 20mm screws happened to get the last pack of 4 so was just perfect. didnt really have any trouble lining up the holes or anything when i put it on i just put them down and held one side while i shifted the other around in place with the screwdriver. was well worth it too i have an i9 with the poopy pancake heatsink after replacing it i went from being 60-70C at idle with thermal throttling constantly im a nice cool 35C during idle and only 75C during heavy gameplay. no more stuttering!
curious, won't the original screw that came with PA120 work? if im correc those are m3 18mm. so it should fit into the hole without the need for extra custom screws
@@fanye5815 been a bit but i think the issue is that the screws came with it weren't long enough or something like that? maybe im not wrong but i swear i tried
This is a great video that has saved my life. I saw it before buying my xps i7 11700 and rtx3060. I ordered the u9s as soon as I bought the computer. This install was nerve racking just because it was my first computer work. However your guide made it simple. It wasn’t nearly as hard to find the screws for me In the US. But all in all my temps went from 95c(pancake cooler) to a max of 67c. I’m so happy my cpu isn’t trying to combust anymore. Thanks for this wonderful video!
Thank you so much J, you've helped me extend the life and performance of my G5. I'm a grubby American with my grub screws so I appreciated your dedicating a special section to it, it was extraordinarily easy even with little know how. The best resource for someone with the sad stock cooler.
Fellow Canadian here with similar lack of access to the 3m screws. I ended up making the hole on the two metal plate bigger with my drill and used the thumb screws and plastic washers that came with the CPU cooler. worked like a charm.
I've upgraded the stock cooler on a Dell XPS and HP Envy with the Noctua NH-U9S using the stock back plate. Just used the correct spacers for the socket and M3 x 20mm screws. Everything went together with no problem or modification.
Thanks so much for this video! Made upgrading a breeze. By the way, I figured out a work around for us fellow Canadians. If you buy the 3M-0.5 x 25 mm machine screws (instead of the 20 mm size you showed in your video), you can use a pair of wire cutters to cut off the screw heads. From there, use the provided thumb screw hardware to work back in any warped threading. To do that, you simply screw and unscrew the thumb screws several times on the side you cut the head off from. Now you have homemade grub screws (without the Allen key hole). Worked perfectly for me to screw into the mother board, place the spacers and brackets over top, then secure with provided noctua thumb screw.
The Arctic Freezer i13X is also a direct replacement, no need to buy washers and screws. You'll still get the pre-boot system performance check if you connect the freezer i13x to the cpu fan header. This is easily solved if you use the stock cpu fan as an exhaust /intake fan. You then use a pwm fan splitter from the cpu fan header. The connector with 4 pins goes to the exhaust/intake fan and the connector with 3 pins goes to the freezer i13X.
Hello JSyntax, good video. No problem to wobble a bit the CPU cooler, if not too much Thermal paste is applied. Half of your big pea, so it can't fall too much from the CPU heat spreader. With your Noctua Cooler, you need to install Intel extreme tuning utility, in order to boost the CPU burst period to 128 seconds, instead of 20 seconds. Since the Main Board is limited for overclocking. Better buy pre-built, only for the GPU. Regards
@@JSyntax Thx. Very good your idea to print a mount for a 120mm intake fan, even if it cancelled the possibility to install a 3.5 inch HDD. Lucky the front Dell aeration grid is truly perforated. Still the Lenovo Legion pre-built has a better airflow and less proprietary components.
I put in a cheap single fan AIO on mine, worked fine though looks like the dell psu couldnt cope with the additional 4 fans I also installed. The AIO did make a diff with performance though. Im putting the whole thing in a non-dell mobo/case/psu and using it as a secondary pc now.
I am watching this in December 2024 and live in Canada too! I just purchased a new Dell XPS 8960 and think the Noctua CPU cooler will fit mine when I get it. I am just wondering with those M3 x 25mm Grub screws that you show, is it just the grub screws you need and none of that other hardware? I found some Axial ones online that are just the 3x25mm screws and if that is all I need I might get those. An RC hobby shop should sell them as both Traxxas and Axial are radio control car companies. I have some smaller grub screws sadly!! I am currently still using my 2013 Dell XPS 8700 but figure it is time to upgrade to something that can handle Windows 11 and some gaming if I want to play a bit! I am a big fan of the older XPS as I was able to upgrade most parts easily other than motherboard....of course...lol! I upgraded PSU, RAM, rear case fan to Noctua and added a front Noctua fan...what a pain that was but it works. This old XPS 8700 is now limping along with all the highspeed world tech!! I need new and can't wait!
I did the same thing except I ended up using a thermalright peerless assassin mini. Their brackets fit right into the screw holes, I just needed some 16mm M3 screws from the hardware store.
Amazing video, really great instructions and extremely informative. Thank you for creating this. Context: I just bought the 8950 from Costco with the i7-12700 RTX3080 & 64gb ram. I plan on doing this upgrade will share notes. As I live in the US and used to have time to build custom cases, I may just go with the m3-20mm screws because I just have larger fingers and it’s always tough getting my fingers in that small space. Will share my experience.
I did the upgrade with the cooler master fan and while it is definitely cooler that the stock pancake I am not noticing 30 degree reductions like some people mention
The pea sized amount is good; too much thermal paste is better than less if its non conductive Also yes you can shuffle the heatsink with no issues. If anything its good for the mount to make sure the whole ihs is covered Also you could just have the m3 screws all positioned onto the bracket before you mount it, and hand tighen before you use a screwdriver. Also you'll need to check if youve mounted the cooler with enough pressure. I think theres a reason why people have recomended the 16mm screws with different standoffs. Your first mount looks like there was not enough pressure on the CPU.
Thanks a lot! I was looking everywhere for information on this topic. I think after all of this I'm going to upgrade and migrate all of my parts to a new case.
you can change the fan onthe premuin dell cooler. I can see in the video at 6:47 the its held at the bottom with 2 screws and the cap plate is screwed to the fan at the top. that might something to consider for anyone want a simple bolt-and-go solution.
Guys, I recently replaced a Dell 95w cooler on a 2015 Dell XPS 8900 (6700k) with a thermalright peerless assassin 120, using thermalrights' mount (this was in an aftermarket case)- if you buy a separate CPU retention bracket for your socket (in my case, socket is LGA1151, available on eBay), and remove Dell's CPU retention bracket/ mounting bracket that is all one piece, and install your new, smaller CPU retention bracket, you then have room to use aftermarket mounts for coolers. Just another option to consider, especially if getting some of these small screws in the video is difficult for you
Hi, nice video, thanks for make it, I suggest one more alternative to install easer the noctua, just cut the heads of the m3 screws, but put the nut first to redo the thread of the cut part, use m3 x 25 mm or longer
I'm about to do this very upgrade on my Dell 8940. I've been active in those Dell forums and even printer a few of those fan brackets for people (PETG). M3 screws were hard for me to source locally. I wound up cutting the heads of some M3x30 screws. I've been running all sorts of benchmarks so I can have a before/after comparison
Thanks man very helpful I bought the stock pancake cooler as I didn’t really know what I was buying should of watched your last vid first haha. Think I will leave the it up to a computer shop but I will 100% upgrade it as soon as it arrives
Excellent content. I have the G5500 with the less powerful fan and was looking for a way to reduce CPU heat. I know virtually nothing about the inner workings of the computer other than adding RAM and hard drive space, but I may try the fan upgrade by following your video. 🇨🇦
I have a question: how did you fix the Dell Bios Error upon restarting the computer? after installing the Noctua fan? Is this not an error you got every time you restarted your system after installing the Noctua CPU cooler? If the pins don't match what Dell accepts, a lot of people are complaining about this post-installation error and no one seems to know how to shut it down. I have the pancake cooler and I'd like to upgrade it to a Noctua but I'd like to know how to resolve that error upon restarting the system. You also evidently can't read how fast the fan is spinning after these upgrades.
I've just completed the install right this afternoon! To make it easier for you so that you can apply the whole thing to the mother board with only ONE TRIAL, try to connect 2 metal bracket to the heatsink first (through two screws at both left and right sides of the heatsink) , and then apply the whole thing to the mother board with 4 screws. Final, attach the fan to the heatsink!
Your method doesn't work. If you attach both metal brackets to the heatsink first, 1 of the metal bracket (on the non-fan side) cannot be accessible by screwdriver hence cannot be screwed onto the motherboard. Instead, attach only 1 of the metal bracket onto the heatsink on the fan side, and screw the other metal bracket onto the motherboard BEFORE you attempt to put the heatsink onto the CPU.
Great walkthrough on fitting the noctua heatsink to that Dell G5. Linked to friend of mine to it and she fitted the cooler to her Dell G5 Pc i7-10700F. She's not that techy but had no problems thanks to your UA-cam, Thanks!
I find it funny how so many videos talk about trying to find screws to fit the existing stand offs under the mother board. I broke them all off and then installed my cooler as it was intended. No issues at all.
I had a G5000 with that original intel fan, what I did to upgrade to a U9S was simply cut off that 4 radiator supporter which fixed on case, then you will realize you are able to install any kind of cooler in the market, put things right once and for all.
@@JSyntax I will forward you some pic through email, as I have no idea how to upload them here. First of all, this method will need to take off the motherboard from the case, I believe there is an instruction from the owner manual (I have spent an hour on this step). Once the motherboard has been taken off, you would see 4 short support (I used a grinder to cut it off). Then install U9S as what DIY normally do on the motherboard and put everything back in case (it's better to test it before putting them back).
for me, the vwd01 heatsink is TONS better than the stock pancake. im using a precision t1500 that was being thrown out, upgraded from the i5 650 to the i7 870 and without turbo technology its hitting 100°c, and i did change the thermal paste several times. the vwd01 keeps it from throttling at a nice 70-75°c so it depends what cpu you’re using for it
For a cheaper Fully compatible screw in option, Silverstone KR02 comes with compatible screws just screw mounting hardware straight into the backplate. 100% compatible. only $35 AUD in Australia and readily available. Temps will be about 80degrees.
I installed the U9S to replace the Dell pancake cooler in my new XPS8950. I get the occasional error on startup that there is no CPU fan but I think it is just a delay in registration as the fan is spinning happily and no other warnings while the machine is running. Everything is running pretty cool but no big loads on the system yet. The front plate on the XPS is flat and the 90mm intake fan is lined up with the graphics card and power pack. There is room for a Noctua 120mm fan above it but not sure if I need it yet. Your video was the most helpful in making my upgrades. Many thanks.
I am planning to buy a XPS desktop in the future for video editing, recording and multitasking in general and I was afraid that my CPU would overheat after hearing about the horrible cpu cooler but now thanks to your video I know what to do.
Excellent info in this tutorial - thanks for sharing. Just to be clear, if we get a i9-14900K, it will have a better cpu cooler than something like i9-14900? The K means it has the better cooler?
I just want to say thank you for making this video! I was pretty uninformed about the problems with this computers design when I purchased it a few months ago and was getting very concerned about the running temperature. Your videos gave me the confidence to take on this solution and it's making a huge difference, my cpu temps have dropped 30ish degrees since replacing that pancake cooler. Thank you so much and I wish you well.
Did you have to calibrate the new cooler? I have mine installed but for some reason I think its not even close to working at its best as my temps are still high. Any advice?
Has anyone run into an issue where the motherboard doesn’t pick up the fan. Cause mine isn’t picking up the fan therefore causing my computer to restart cause the cpu is “getting too hot” but the fan itself is spinning. I did do the noctua cpu cooler upgrade but ever since it can’t even use my computer now
Thank You so much for this! I've seen many videos on this cooler upgrade but youre the only one to explain and clear up the confusion around the screws and spacers. I can finally orderr mmy parts and get this done. (i have the 11700 with a pancake cooler, wtf)
Just an FYI, m3 machine thread screws are very popular in the RC community so if you're in Canada and need m3 screws/bolts/nuts/washers of all different lengths/depths/thicknesses, try an RC hobby store. Since I build both PCs and RCs, I have a huge collection of m3s ranging from 5mm to 100mm in length, all from hobby stores both local and online.
I opened mine up to look around (it’s a few years old) and isn’t it pretty damn bad that there’s no intake fans in this case? Mine has a tiny ass exhaust fan and 0 intake fans on the case. Just a fan for the GPU and CPU. Can’t wait to build my own pc..
Regarding those m3 screws, I have them. Yay!! So, here is the question. How far do I insert them? Do I screw them until they hit the floor, as in touching the backplate of the case? Or is there a different depth ? Maybe just enough so they stand up? (Is it cool if screws from the top of the motherboard touch the back wall? It seems ill advised to me; but I don't actually know.) Also, did you use the lock nuts on the screws? If so, do you still need the black spacers ? Got the screws. Hoping for some additional details. Can you please help?
I tried doing the fan + CPU cooler upgrade, and I am getting bios errors. I am using the Noctua A9 92mm fan (Chromax) and Noctua U9S cooler (Chromax). I found a workaround for the case fans where I need to plug in the OEM 80mm fan as intake, however I can getting a bios error for the CPU cooler.
I am trying the Ventoo V5 tower next. I have teh Thermalright Peerless all boxed up and ready to return because the quality was horrible. The directions showed 3 alignment holes, each one matching a particular CPU. They were not there on the one I received. I could not line up the tower cooler to screw it in. A waste of 4 days.
Huge help my man! Kudos to you for life! Definitely a life saver! Liked and subscribed! Keep it up! Wish I could produce videos like this! I have the content but the delivery isn't there just yet. What did you do about the rattling/buzzing power supply unit? HUGE THANK YOU!
Great video. I had to spend hours on dell forums and reddit to learn the exact same things mentioned here. This is the best video on this topic, clear and covers everything. I already did my upgrade from pancake cooler to Noctua and can clearly see the difference (I used 25 mm grub screws, as I got them easily here in the UK). On a side note, do you know if Dell sells the internal light bar? I bought a CPU with no clear side panel or internal lighting and so trying to find them.
Haha you lucky ppl in London. Yes, I wanted to cover some auxiliary topics like which noctua cooler is the best. As for the RGB bar, no it came with the pc. Are you going to make your case clear?
Yes, I ordered a clear side panel from Dell. They only have refurbished ones but I guess I don't have an option. So looking for the RGB light bar now. Also looking forward to your video on adding front intake fans. I might add them too if they can make a significant difference.
So am I just able to buy the K series cooling unit and put it on my F series CPU. If the Noctua cooler doesn't help at all? I think that's what's being said at the beginning. I'm going to put a 92mm fan at the back, not sure if that will be enough
Hi, thank you very much for the insightful video. However, I followed your instructions but still got a bootup error message related to the CPU fan. I searched up and it seems that it is inevitable. Do you have any idea how to resolve it?
I must be to close to Canada here in Northern Idaho because I could not find the grub screws either. I ended up buying socket head screws and cut the heads off.
Does the noctua not come with screws that can be used? I live in US. I assumed they came with the necessary screws to install. NVM I just got to the lucky American part. Great video btw.
Before watching this video I already purchase the d9l so I'm installing it today and going to use this video to sort of help me because they should be relatively the same install process
If you want M3 grub screws and you already got m3 machine screws - all you need to do is cut the head off with a Dremel and most people will know someone that has one of those (probably the same person who has the screws). Thermal compound despite its name doesn't actually conduct heat well at all, its really acting as a gasket otherwise the cooler would only transfer heat on the high bits. As a result it should be as thin as possible barely a smidge, the tube you have there should never run out no matter how many PC's you do! I've still got a tube from 1990 when I was making amplifiers it lasts for ever and if you get it on your clothes or anything else it last forever there too. The reason you don't see any difference is that if you were below 90C with the k cooler then it will just run the same as if it was below 80c - however, if the fans are better quality and quieter then its worth it. The really crappy pancake cooler is actually sufficient for most needs and the cpu will throttle for when its not so the idea was that Dell worked as hard as possible to get the minimum cost. I think that approach suits us very well. I got the F with a crap cooler and prefer the option to fit what I wanted. The Dell G5 right now is basically an RTX graphics card with a free PC and I think they did a good job hitting that price point and keeping the stock flowing when everyone else ground to a halt.
Agreed, the pancake cooler, while loud, will work, even if throttling loses some performance on the CPU. The only thing I wish Dell hadn't compromised at all are the exclusion of VRM heatsinks on the F model CPU variant. With combined CPU and GPU load, those VRM's get hot and while they're rated all the way up to 120c, their longevity will suffer greatly without the heatsink, and there are a few cases on the forums where they actually blew. You can get the heatsink independently either 3rd party of from dell if you didn't get it, so I fully recommend it if the g5 is going to be your gaming go-to.
@@tristantheafflicted do you have a link for these? I used thermal camera and they only get to 60C but I feel they should be heatsinked if I can easily add it.
I just made the upgrade to the Noctua CPU cooler. Just like you, it took me a few tries to get that cooler to sit on the base correctly. It did make a huge difference thermally and audibly as well. I am sitting at about 35-40 degrees idle and 60-70 during gaming. I am surprised though that your PSU was making that much of a squealing sounds.
My psu occasionally sounds like a wood burning stove crackling away. I worried it was arcing but it's how that psu is. Its actually a descendant of a server psu hence its weird form factor for hot swapping into power edge servers, so I think it will be ok. I can say that the supply rails are very smooth because I use an sdr radio receiver in this pc and itsv the best I've used for being quiet.
@@dr_jaymz Mine did this on my XPS 8940, often when going off standby mode. It was the 500W Lite-On variant PSU. Called tech support, had it changed (they even swapped the whole computer at some point), I finally ended up with a Delta Electronics one that does exactly more or less the same sound than Jsyntax's. You only hear it when the CPU is in idle state, and it's quiet compared to the "wood burning stove" sound of the Lite-On one. Also the only way to make the crackling noise stop was to reboot the computer (by shutting it down or putting it in standby mode momentarily), that was really annoying for me, at least the Delta one is consistent in its operation. Having gone through a couple of them, I guess I can safely assume that all these power supplies make noise to an extent. I'm relieved to know at least that it seems common with these and that there's no danger for our components inside.
@@kekwill99 yes when there is very low power demand the inductor switching becomes discontinuous, so it stops switching briefly until required. This is why they are very energy efficient. You cannot hear the switching normally because its much higher frequency than were can hear but you can hear when it starts and stops and that is what we are hearing. Its possible to design it to prevent that noise as well but that just makes it more complicated. I still think that these psus are descended from server psus where reliability and simplicity is favoured. We run hundreds of dell servers each with two psus and any psu problem is very rare.
Put this on my new xps 8950, threw a bios error so I put the original dell fan on in pull connected to the cpu port with the noctua in push connected to the port labeled pump, and the error went away. I don't know anything about computers so hopefully that configuration is fine.
Save your microfiber towels and use coffee filters, they don't leave fibers behind and work great. No issue with moving the heatsink around on top of the IHS of the CPU just spreads the thermal interface material around more. The application of thermal paste seemed fine, rice size is good, you can have too little paste, but not really too much with in reason.
hey. got a verry similar 8940 last spring. complained that all the marketing material shows the larger premium cooler & the computer was only supplied with the cheaper pancake & they replaced it quickly with no problem. looks like the fan can fit on either side of the noctua - worth a try running it with 2 fans 1 each side - maybee even some tube to funnel it directly to the case exhaust fan?
@JSyntax Just did the rear fan upgrade and moved the stock to the front to help cool the GPU, on benchmark I got about 9C cooler! Any recommendation for newer GPU and CPU?
Great vids, I just lurched the XPS 8940 special edition with 11 gen i7-11700K, I made sure it was the K version as my sons XPS SE from 2019 the previous XPS Design with a non K version 19 processor and really regret not spending the extra $100 back then. My sons version has the worst fan setup I have seen, the new one I just purchased seems to have a lot more open air space for better air flow, even with the 3070. I should have it it about 2 weeks, so I’m thinking of the quickest way to improve my air flow from day 1, I really don’t want to change the K version processor cooler just yet, so I’m thinking to go with a larger back fan, and possibly mounting a front intake fan ( I did opt for a 2nd 2TB HDD, so I think that may need to be relocated ( correct?) or is there a workaround, if I need to move to another bay then I will. Have you come across any simple to install front mount intake fan setups since this video or the other fan video for XPS/g5 you had made? Also is there anyway to install an additional fan on the outside of the stock processor cooler that can create a push/pull setup using the existing setup? Creating more flow through the cooler? What would you recommend as a start to adding efficient / proper cooling from the start with out replacing the upgraded stock K cooler setup? Can the fan in the stock configuration be replaced while retaining the existing cooler setup? Thank you and appreciate and advise, tips offered in advance. I’ve used many XPS setups throughout the years and been happy but I plan on using this machine a little harder then those other XPS ones over the years ( with my first one being a fully loaded XPS M1710 laptop back in 2006, was a beast at the time). My main computer for my business is actually a 2014 Precision T7600 with dual xeon 6 cores just put a P1000 gpu just to run my 4 monitors without any adapters and that thing gets hammered at work daily, ( but can’t play a simple game on it, my son thinks it’s funny but can take up to 20 minutes every night closing every program and chrome tab that gets opened daily, not because it’s slow, because I literally don’t close anything during the day and running several graphic design programs). That workstation is like my old reliable 1970’s V8 Caddy when it come to reliability Well enough on that, so basically I’m just trying to get as much simple bolt on power to the new much smaller, but more tech infused computer, and like most things MORE AIR ( used properly) MORE POWER
How much to tighten the screws of the cooler? After installation T'C max is 84. ( gaming -Call of duty) I don't see any difference.I tried with less thermal paste and a little bit more - same result.
@jsyntax thank you again for this install video. i'm not sure what's wrong but after following all of these directions and properly mounting the chromax u9s noctua, i continuously get the cpu fan failure error at start up error code 2000-0511. when i look at the cooler's fan and the rear fan they both spin but when i check my temps, it shows that my cpu jumps back and for from 100 - 113 F with nothing dropping down below that....any idea what might be wrong? \
looking forward to your fan installl, i just upgraded the exhaust fan to a noctua nf-a9 pwm chromax black and also added a front intake fan using the noctua nf-f12 industrialppc 3000 pwm. im curious as to how you mounted your front fans. it seem as though you used a bracket.
@@kingievo4411 yep thats it, i had no bios errors. i have the 0m6c7g motherboard. after the exhaust swap and adding the 80mm stock fan and the 120mm noctua front fans my cpu and gpu temps have improved a good deal. 76c gpu temp after 2 hours of gameplay where as before it was reaching arounf 83 to 85c. cpu temp is around 46c now as well and i havent even upgraded the cooler yet
Thank you so much for this video, it's super helpful. I should've paid more attention though because I installed it with the fan on the wrong side and I was wondering why my PC was still getting so hot o.O
I'm quite ignorant about Canada so you should correct me but I really expected Canada to be all Metric? America uses freedom units, like 3/5UNF, they have an inch which is slightly different to an actual inch and a gallon that is different to an imperial gallon and here in blighty we mix units for no apparent reason. For example its -5C to make it sound cold and 90 degrees (F) when we want it to sound hot. For aircraft separation we use feet for the height and km for the horizonal distance in the official rules.
Do you think a core i5 10400f with a stock cooler and a gtx 1650 super could run normal temps on games such as fortnite since many of the reviewers purchase high end computers with rtx 20 30 series cards. Thanks
Also, if the computer does overheat, couldn’t I technically under volt the gpu and cpu since it is taking less energy which would significantly improve thermals.
I added a Noctua 12-mm case fan more out of caution than needed at this stage. Everything is so quiet. I still have an error at boot up that the CPU fan is not working. Any clues on how I may fix this?
Thanks for the video, really useful. What kind of temperatures are you seeing under load? I've an XPS with a 11700k and when gaming, HWinfo tells me I'm running between 75c to 82c. I typically play flightsim and racing games so it can be GPU amd CPU heavy but I'm curious to know what temps I should expect. Note that I've changed the rear fan for a 92mm Artic fan and have managed fit a 120mm Artic fan at the front of the case to get airflow through the unit. Cheers again.
Hey JS, This was an outstanding instructional video!! I did sends hours on this topic via the forms stated with more confusion and questions that you clarified. BTW what is your thought on liquid cooling, such as Cosair H80i v2 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler or H60?
Great video and information! You mentioned it would be great to upgrade from the stock pancake cooler to the Noctua. I will assume you would recommend upgrading the Dell K variant tall cooler form the pancake as well. I need help in determining if one of the upgraded K variant coolers will work in my Inspiron 3670. It also has the tiny stock pancake cooler. I believe it will bolt right on in the Inspiron 3670. What do you think??? Thanks!
I don't know about computers so this might sound dumb, but can you upgrade the motherboard later on without losing a bunch of stuff that may be attached to it?
Install starts at 11:05 for those who just want the instructions!
I read that the way cheaper Cooler Master Hyper H412R fits in the Dell G5. Do you know if that is correct?
He won't know that cause he just read some other articles and follow there instructions to do this video.
So if you use 2 fans on the nh-u9s will u see a difference?
Hello sir, you mentioned that your power supply has a weird buzzing noise. What kind of noise is it? I bought a Acer Orion 3000 pc, that the PSU has a weird buzzing noise (sound like some small consistant electric shock) even when the pc is turned off. I'm thinking about returning it and buy the Dell XPS as it's on sale right now, and I hope I don't get the same buzzing noise from the PSU that is causing the issue. BTW can the dell PSU be upgraded?
Just now seeing these cooling fan videos as I've ordered a Dell XPS (knowing that's potentially an issue but the specs to price ratio is tough to beat). I saw another video from Optimum Tech and he replaced it with a liquid cooling set-up. It dropped temp by 7-8 degrees and bumped the CPU speed up in the process.
Years later, still helpful. Recently got this computer from a friend and noticed the computer overheating when running games. This cooler is awesome. The video instructions are fantastic, especially since I don’t work on computers. I bought four M3 20mm screws from the hardware store and they worked perfectly. Thank you for this content 🙏
For perspective, I’d boot up a game and the cpu would go immediately to 100°C with the stock pancake heat sink. Now, running my game (Dead by Daylight) on ultra settings it’s hovering at a comfortable 66°C.
This is some saint level content
Thank you
@@JSyntax Update, I bought the cooler. As well as a new mobo and case. The average cpu temp now is never over 60 C regardless of load. Its insane to think dell ever thought a pancake cooler would ever suffice.
No joke
Fax this guy poured his souls into this
Just wanted to thank you for this video. I got an XPS 8940 last summer, and only learned about the issues with this computer through troubleshooting it like it was my job. I used your video as a guide to replace the "pancake" cooler with the Noctua cooler and replace the case fan, and it went well. I had done things like swap out hard drives or upgrade RAM on other computers in the past, so this felt kind of "next level", but your instructions were clear and easy to follow. I probably still have some software issues to smooth out for the game I want to run, but I feel like my hardware is sorted. Thanks so much!
You are very welcome! It makes me happy to hear this :)
Thanks for the video! I decided to upgrade form the stock pancake cooler to the Noctua with the grubscrew method and it worked flawlessly. I am running games 15c cooler! I am also far from being an expert on computers but was still able to follow the simple tutorial. If anyone has any questions on my upgrade feel free to ask
That is so awesome to hear!
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I don't ever make comments on UA-cam, but you video made my fix so smooth. Got the screws all ready before attempting to setup and it took me just a whooping 30 mins from start to end!
Than you!
@@markstevens4264 I chose the first method (Non grub) and it wasnt tough at all to get the screws aligned. Don't need to go out of your way to get grub screws in my opinion if it isnt accessible
appreciate the vid managed to get my Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE installed into my Dell G5 with no issues. took a trip down to canadian tire to grab some of those m3 20mm screws happened to get the last pack of 4 so was just perfect. didnt really have any trouble lining up the holes or anything when i put it on i just put them down and held one side while i shifted the other around in place with the screwdriver.
was well worth it too i have an i9 with the poopy pancake heatsink after replacing it i went from being 60-70C at idle with thermal throttling constantly im a nice cool 35C during idle and only 75C during heavy gameplay. no more stuttering!
curious, won't the original screw that came with PA120 work? if im correc those are m3 18mm. so it should fit into the hole without the need for extra custom screws
@@fanye5815 been a bit but i think the issue is that the screws came with it weren't long enough or something like that? maybe im not wrong but i swear i tried
This is a great video that has saved my life. I saw it before buying my xps i7 11700 and rtx3060. I ordered the u9s as soon as I bought the computer. This install was nerve racking just because it was my first computer work. However your guide made it simple. It wasn’t nearly as hard to find the screws for me In the US. But all in all my temps went from 95c(pancake cooler) to a max of 67c. I’m so happy my cpu isn’t trying to combust anymore. Thanks for this wonderful video!
I'm so happy to hear that you're upgraded!
Thank you so much J, you've helped me extend the life and performance of my G5. I'm a grubby American with my grub screws so I appreciated your dedicating a special section to it, it was extraordinarily easy even with little know how.
The best resource for someone with the sad stock cooler.
Awesome! So glad to hear
Fellow Canadian here with similar lack of access to the 3m screws. I ended up making the hole on the two metal plate bigger with my drill and used the thumb screws and plastic washers that came with the CPU cooler. worked like a charm.
Would love to see a video on that!
I've upgraded the stock cooler on a Dell XPS and HP Envy with the Noctua NH-U9S using the stock back plate. Just used the correct spacers for the socket and M3 x 20mm screws. Everything went together with no problem or modification.
Thanks so much for this video! Made upgrading a breeze. By the way, I figured out a work around for us fellow Canadians. If you buy the 3M-0.5 x 25 mm machine screws (instead of the 20 mm size you showed in your video), you can use a pair of wire cutters to cut off the screw heads. From there, use the provided thumb screw hardware to work back in any warped threading. To do that, you simply screw and unscrew the thumb screws several times on the side you cut the head off from. Now you have homemade grub screws (without the Allen key hole). Worked perfectly for me to screw into the mother board, place the spacers and brackets over top, then secure with provided noctua thumb screw.
That's amazing glad it helped
@2:49 - Maybe just change to a Noctua fan may help the noise level on the upgraded Dell CPU cooler.
The Arctic Freezer i13X is also a direct replacement, no need to buy washers and screws. You'll still get the pre-boot system performance check if you connect the freezer i13x to the cpu fan header. This is easily solved if you use the stock cpu fan as an exhaust /intake fan. You then use a pwm fan splitter from the cpu fan header. The connector with 4 pins goes to the exhaust/intake fan and the connector with 3 pins goes to the freezer i13X.
Thank you for having multiple videos on this computer, it helped me a lot, and answered many of my questions
Glad it helped!
Hello JSyntax, good video. No problem to wobble a bit the CPU cooler, if not too much Thermal paste is applied. Half of your big pea, so it can't fall too much from the CPU heat spreader.
With your Noctua Cooler, you need to install Intel extreme tuning utility, in order to boost the CPU burst period to 128 seconds, instead of 20 seconds. Since the Main Board is limited for overclocking.
Better buy pre-built, only for the GPU.
Regards
Thank you for your input that is 100% correct
@@JSyntax Thx. Very good your idea to print a mount for a 120mm intake fan, even if it cancelled the possibility to install a 3.5 inch HDD. Lucky the front Dell aeration grid is truly perforated.
Still the Lenovo Legion pre-built has a better airflow and less proprietary components.
Completed this tonight and your instructions were perfect… not a single surprise or snag ✌️
I put in a cheap single fan AIO on mine, worked fine though looks like the dell psu couldnt cope with the additional 4 fans I also installed. The AIO did make a diff with performance though. Im putting the whole thing in a non-dell mobo/case/psu and using it as a secondary pc now.
I am watching this in December 2024 and live in Canada too! I just purchased a new Dell XPS 8960 and think the Noctua CPU cooler will fit mine when I get it. I am just wondering with those M3 x 25mm Grub screws that you show, is it just the grub screws you need and none of that other hardware? I found some Axial ones online that are just the 3x25mm screws and if that is all I need I might get those. An RC hobby shop should sell them as both Traxxas and Axial are radio control car companies. I have some smaller grub screws sadly!!
I am currently still using my 2013 Dell XPS 8700 but figure it is time to upgrade to something that can handle Windows 11 and some gaming if I want to play a bit! I am a big fan of the older XPS as I was able to upgrade most parts easily other than motherboard....of course...lol! I upgraded PSU, RAM, rear case fan to Noctua and added a front Noctua fan...what a pain that was but it works. This old XPS 8700 is now limping along with all the highspeed world tech!! I need new and can't wait!
I did the same thing except I ended up using a thermalright peerless assassin mini. Their brackets fit right into the screw holes, I just needed some 16mm M3 screws from the hardware store.
Amazing video, really great instructions and extremely informative. Thank you for creating this. Context: I just bought the 8950 from Costco with the i7-12700 RTX3080 & 64gb ram. I plan on doing this upgrade will share notes. As I live in the US and used to have time to build custom cases, I may just go with the m3-20mm screws because I just have larger fingers and it’s always tough getting my fingers in that small space. Will share my experience.
Wow 64 gb of ram! Nice setup.
Good job! I followed everything in this video, and had no issues at all. The i7-10700F CPU in my G5 is running around 30C cooler than before.
So happy to hear
I did the upgrade with the cooler master fan and while it is definitely cooler that the stock pancake I am not noticing 30 degree reductions like some people mention
Another great tutorial. I’ve saved 20 degrees Celsius now. Thanks so much
Wow!
This is going to be so helpful, much appreciated. Doing this upgrade in a couple weeks. Interested in your next install video as well.
Yes me too!
Really appeciate your video. I bought 3 of the Dell G5 5000's for myself and 2 grandsons. Your method worked like charm. You're the best!
Awesome! Lucky kids.
The pea sized amount is good; too much thermal paste is better than less if its non conductive
Also yes you can shuffle the heatsink with no issues. If anything its good for the mount to make sure the whole ihs is covered
Also you could just have the m3 screws all positioned onto the bracket before you mount it, and hand tighen before you use a screwdriver.
Also you'll need to check if youve mounted the cooler with enough pressure. I think theres a reason why people have recomended the 16mm screws with different standoffs.
Your first mount looks like there was not enough pressure on the CPU.
Err, not sure what you mean, the CPU cooler was really fixed on the socket. Not sure what I could do better to make it secure.
This.is the video I needed! The m3 screw thread length! Amazing, new subscriber here
Thank you so much for your kind comments
Thanks a lot! I was looking everywhere for information on this topic. I think after all of this I'm going to upgrade and migrate all of my parts to a new case.
I don't think that's possible but let me know if I'm wrong
@@JSyntax by migrate I kinda mean just keep the CPU, GPU, HDD, RAM, and SSD and then get rid of all the rest
you can change the fan onthe premuin dell cooler. I can see in the video at 6:47 the its held at the bottom with 2 screws and the cap plate is screwed to the fan at the top. that might something to consider for anyone want a simple bolt-and-go solution.
Guys, I recently replaced a Dell 95w cooler on a 2015 Dell XPS 8900 (6700k) with a thermalright peerless assassin 120, using thermalrights' mount (this was in an aftermarket case)- if you buy a separate CPU retention bracket for your socket (in my case, socket is LGA1151, available on eBay), and remove Dell's CPU retention bracket/ mounting bracket that is all one piece, and install your new, smaller CPU retention bracket, you then have room to use aftermarket mounts for coolers. Just another option to consider, especially if getting some of these small screws in the video is difficult for you
Because of your first videos I purchased a g5 made of couple of upgrades and I'm very happy with my purchase. Thanks man good job on your vids
Hi, nice video, thanks for make it, I suggest one more alternative to install easer the noctua, just cut the heads of the m3 screws, but put the nut first to redo the thread of the cut part, use m3 x 25 mm or longer
I'm about to do this very upgrade on my Dell 8940. I've been active in those Dell forums and even printer a few of those fan brackets for people (PETG). M3 screws were hard for me to source locally. I wound up cutting the heads of some M3x30 screws. I've been running all sorts of benchmarks so I can have a before/after comparison
Looking forward to your results!
Thanks man very helpful I bought the stock pancake cooler as I didn’t really know what I was buying should of watched your last vid first haha. Think I will leave the it up to a computer shop but I will 100% upgrade it as soon as it arrives
You can upgrade to the noctua cooler!
Excellent content. I have the G5500 with the less powerful fan and was looking for a way to reduce CPU heat. I know virtually nothing about the inner workings of the computer other than adding RAM and hard drive space, but I may try the fan upgrade by following your video. 🇨🇦
Thank you!
The ID Cooling SE 207 XT slim works perfectly without fan errors in Dell systems. You just need m3 16mm screws
I have a question: how did you fix the Dell Bios Error upon restarting the computer? after installing the Noctua fan? Is this not an error you got every time you restarted your system after installing the Noctua CPU cooler? If the pins don't match what Dell accepts, a lot of people are complaining about this post-installation error and no one seems to know how to shut it down. I have the pancake cooler and I'd like to upgrade it to a Noctua but I'd like to know how to resolve that error upon restarting the system. You also evidently can't read how fast the fan is spinning after these upgrades.
I've just completed the install right this afternoon! To make it easier for you so that you can apply the whole thing to the mother board with only ONE TRIAL, try to connect 2 metal bracket to the heatsink first (through two screws at both left and right sides of the heatsink) , and then apply the whole thing to the mother board with 4 screws. Final, attach the fan to the heatsink!
Ah yes! I'm an idiot. Thats probably an easier way to mount the brackets.
Your method doesn't work. If you attach both metal brackets to the heatsink first, 1 of the metal bracket (on the non-fan side) cannot be accessible by screwdriver hence cannot be screwed onto the motherboard. Instead, attach only 1 of the metal bracket onto the heatsink on the fan side, and screw the other metal bracket onto the motherboard BEFORE you attempt to put the heatsink onto the CPU.
Bro, that was great for the beginner who pucharched the DELL XPS8940. really thx a lot.
You're gonna do that fan upgrades?
Great walkthrough on fitting the noctua heatsink to that Dell G5. Linked to friend of mine to it and she fitted the cooler to her Dell G5 Pc i7-10700F. She's not that techy but had no problems thanks to your UA-cam, Thanks!
That's so awesome!
I find it funny how so many videos talk about trying to find screws to fit the existing stand offs under the mother board. I broke them all off and then installed my cooler as it was intended. No issues at all.
Have an aio, have a fan adoater for my case. But only you gave us the screw sizes THANK YOU SO MUCH
You are more than welcome
I had a G5000 with that original intel fan, what I did to upgrade to a U9S was simply cut off that 4 radiator supporter which fixed on case, then you will realize you are able to install any kind of cooler in the market, put things right once and for all.
I would love to see pictures of that install method!
@@JSyntax I will forward you some pic through email, as I have no idea how to upload them here. First of all, this method will need to take off the motherboard from the case, I believe there is an instruction from the owner manual (I have spent an hour on this step). Once the motherboard has been taken off, you would see 4 short support (I used a grinder to cut it off). Then install U9S as what DIY normally do on the motherboard and put everything back in case (it's better to test it before putting them back).
for me, the vwd01 heatsink is TONS better than the stock pancake. im using a precision t1500 that was being thrown out, upgraded from the i5 650 to the i7 870 and without turbo technology its hitting 100°c, and i did change the thermal paste several times. the vwd01 keeps it from throttling at a nice 70-75°c so it depends what cpu you’re using for it
For a cheaper Fully compatible screw in option, Silverstone KR02 comes with compatible screws just screw mounting hardware straight into the backplate. 100% compatible. only $35 AUD in Australia and readily available. Temps will be about 80degrees.
I installed the U9S to replace the Dell pancake cooler in my new XPS8950. I get the occasional error on startup that there is no CPU fan but I think it is just a delay in registration as the fan is spinning happily and no other warnings while the machine is running. Everything is running pretty cool but no big loads on the system yet. The front plate on the XPS is flat and the 90mm intake fan is lined up with the graphics card and power pack. There is room for a Noctua 120mm fan above it but not sure if I need it yet. Your video was the most helpful in making my upgrades. Many thanks.
So glad you were able to get such a great cooler in your PC
I am planning to buy a XPS desktop in the future for video editing, recording and multitasking in general and I was afraid that my CPU would overheat after hearing about the horrible cpu cooler but now thanks to your video I know what to do.
Glad I could help!
I just installed a Vetroo V5 out of the box. It is fantastic.
Jealous!
Excellent info in this tutorial - thanks for sharing. Just to be clear, if we get a i9-14900K, it will have a better cpu cooler than something like i9-14900? The K means it has the better cooler?
Omg you are a god i was literally looking through these EXACT SAME POSTS figuring it out and i find this THANK YOU 🙏
I was in the same place!
I just want to say thank you for making this video! I was pretty uninformed about the problems with this computers design when I purchased it a few months ago and was getting very concerned about the running temperature. Your videos gave me the confidence to take on this solution and it's making a huge difference, my cpu temps have dropped 30ish degrees since replacing that pancake cooler. Thank you so much and I wish you well.
You're very welcome!
Did you have to calibrate the new cooler? I have mine installed but for some reason I think its not even close to working at its best as my temps are still high. Any advice?
@@redhotweezer I didn't, I just bolted it on like in the video.
how about the
be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2, CPU Kühler, 130W TDP, Pure Wings 2 92mm PWM Lüfter, 3 Heatpipes, asymmetrisches Design, Slim Tower?
Has anyone run into an issue where the motherboard doesn’t pick up the fan. Cause mine isn’t picking up the fan therefore causing my computer to restart cause the cpu is “getting too hot” but the fan itself is spinning. I did do the noctua cpu cooler upgrade but ever since it can’t even use my computer now
Thank You so much for this! I've seen many videos on this cooler upgrade but youre the only one to explain and clear up the confusion around the screws and spacers. I can finally orderr mmy parts and get this done. (i have the 11700 with a pancake cooler, wtf)
Your welcome!
Just an FYI, m3 machine thread screws are very popular in the RC community so if you're in Canada and need m3 screws/bolts/nuts/washers of all different lengths/depths/thicknesses, try an RC hobby store. Since I build both PCs and RCs, I have a huge collection of m3s ranging from 5mm to 100mm in length, all from hobby stores both local and online.
Super jelly!
You can also watercool the cpu with the asetek 645LT. Thats the route I took. Under load i'm looking at temps of low 50C.
I opened mine up to look around (it’s a few years old) and isn’t it pretty damn bad that there’s no intake fans in this case? Mine has a tiny ass exhaust fan and 0 intake fans on the case. Just a fan for the GPU and CPU. Can’t wait to build my own pc..
Regarding those m3 screws, I have them. Yay!!
So, here is the question. How far do I insert them? Do I screw them until they hit the floor, as in touching the backplate of the case?
Or is there a different depth ?
Maybe just enough so they stand up?
(Is it cool if screws from the top of the motherboard touch the back wall? It seems ill advised to me; but I don't actually know.)
Also, did you use the lock nuts on the screws? If so, do you still need the black spacers ?
Got the screws. Hoping for some additional details. Can you please help?
I'm curious as well.
For Dell xps3940 you mentioned 25mm in description but said 16mm in video
I tried doing the fan + CPU cooler upgrade, and I am getting bios errors. I am using the Noctua A9 92mm fan (Chromax) and Noctua U9S cooler (Chromax). I found a workaround for the case fans where I need to plug in the OEM 80mm fan as intake, however I can getting a bios error for the CPU cooler.
Super helpful 👍
Glad it was helpful!
I am trying the Ventoo V5 tower next. I have teh Thermalright Peerless all boxed up and ready to return because the quality was horrible. The directions showed 3 alignment holes, each one matching a particular CPU. They were not there on the one I received. I could not line up the tower cooler to screw it in. A waste of 4 days.
Why not just use the stock premium cooler and upgrade the center fan?
Huge help my man! Kudos to you for life! Definitely a life saver! Liked and subscribed! Keep it up! Wish I could produce videos like this! I have the content but the delivery isn't there just yet.
What did you do about the rattling/buzzing power supply unit?
HUGE THANK YOU!
Thanks for the sub!
Great video. I had to spend hours on dell forums and reddit to learn the exact same things mentioned here. This is the best video on this topic, clear and covers everything. I already did my upgrade from pancake cooler to Noctua and can clearly see the difference (I used 25 mm grub screws, as I got them easily here in the UK). On a side note, do you know if Dell sells the internal light bar? I bought a CPU with no clear side panel or internal lighting and so trying to find them.
Haha you lucky ppl in London. Yes, I wanted to cover some auxiliary topics like which noctua cooler is the best. As for the RGB bar, no it came with the pc. Are you going to make your case clear?
Yes, I ordered a clear side panel from Dell. They only have refurbished ones but I guess I don't have an option. So looking for the RGB light bar now. Also looking forward to your video on adding front intake fans. I might add them too if they can make a significant difference.
So am I just able to buy the K series cooling unit and put it on my F series CPU. If the Noctua cooler doesn't help at all? I think that's what's being said at the beginning. I'm going to put a 92mm fan at the back, not sure if that will be enough
Hi, thank you very much for the insightful video. However, I followed your instructions but still got a bootup error message related to the CPU fan. I searched up and it seems that it is inevitable. Do you have any idea how to resolve it?
I must be to close to Canada here in Northern Idaho because I could not find the grub screws either. I ended up buying socket head screws and cut the heads off.
Damn! I'm jelly.
Are you going to make an upgrade video for the xps 8960?
Does the noctua not come with screws that can be used? I live in US. I assumed they came with the necessary screws to install. NVM I just got to the lucky American part. Great video btw.
Ull need special hardware!
Before watching this video I already purchase the d9l so I'm installing it today and going to use this video to sort of help me because they should be relatively the same install process
If you want M3 grub screws and you already got m3 machine screws - all you need to do is cut the head off with a Dremel and most people will know someone that has one of those (probably the same person who has the screws). Thermal compound despite its name doesn't actually conduct heat well at all, its really acting as a gasket otherwise the cooler would only transfer heat on the high bits. As a result it should be as thin as possible barely a smidge, the tube you have there should never run out no matter how many PC's you do! I've still got a tube from 1990 when I was making amplifiers it lasts for ever and if you get it on your clothes or anything else it last forever there too. The reason you don't see any difference is that if you were below 90C with the k cooler then it will just run the same as if it was below 80c - however, if the fans are better quality and quieter then its worth it. The really crappy pancake cooler is actually sufficient for most needs and the cpu will throttle for when its not so the idea was that Dell worked as hard as possible to get the minimum cost. I think that approach suits us very well. I got the F with a crap cooler and prefer the option to fit what I wanted. The Dell G5 right now is basically an RTX graphics card with a free PC and I think they did a good job hitting that price point and keeping the stock flowing when everyone else ground to a halt.
Agreed, the pancake cooler, while loud, will work, even if throttling loses some performance on the CPU. The only thing I wish Dell hadn't compromised at all are the exclusion of VRM heatsinks on the F model CPU variant. With combined CPU and GPU load, those VRM's get hot and while they're rated all the way up to 120c, their longevity will suffer greatly without the heatsink, and there are a few cases on the forums where they actually blew. You can get the heatsink independently either 3rd party of from dell if you didn't get it, so I fully recommend it if the g5 is going to be your gaming go-to.
@@tristantheafflicted do you have a link for these? I used thermal camera and they only get to 60C but I feel they should be heatsinked if I can easily add it.
I just made the upgrade to the Noctua CPU cooler. Just like you, it took me a few tries to get that cooler to sit on the base correctly. It did make a huge difference thermally and audibly as well. I am sitting at about 35-40 degrees idle and 60-70 during gaming. I am surprised though that your PSU was making that much of a squealing sounds.
Awesome, I hope you like it
My psu occasionally sounds like a wood burning stove crackling away. I worried it was arcing but it's how that psu is. Its actually a descendant of a server psu hence its weird form factor for hot swapping into power edge servers, so I think it will be ok. I can say that the supply rails are very smooth because I use an sdr radio receiver in this pc and itsv the best I've used for being quiet.
@@dr_jaymz Mine did this on my XPS 8940, often when going off standby mode. It was the 500W Lite-On variant PSU. Called tech support, had it changed (they even swapped the whole computer at some point), I finally ended up with a Delta Electronics one that does exactly more or less the same sound than Jsyntax's. You only hear it when the CPU is in idle state, and it's quiet compared to the "wood burning stove" sound of the Lite-On one. Also the only way to make the crackling noise stop was to reboot the computer (by shutting it down or putting it in standby mode momentarily), that was really annoying for me, at least the Delta one is consistent in its operation.
Having gone through a couple of them, I guess I can safely assume that all these power supplies make noise to an extent. I'm relieved to know at least that it seems common with these and that there's no danger for our components inside.
@@kekwill99 yes when there is very low power demand the inductor switching becomes discontinuous, so it stops switching briefly until required. This is why they are very energy efficient. You cannot hear the switching normally because its much higher frequency than were can hear but you can hear when it starts and stops and that is what we are hearing. Its possible to design it to prevent that noise as well but that just makes it more complicated. I still think that these psus are descended from server psus where reliability and simplicity is favoured. We run hundreds of dell servers each with two psus and any psu problem is very rare.
Trying to install a Thermaltake RGB CPU Air Cooler. Just wondering if the "feet" would go in. Thank you & have a GR8 day.
Dude i can see that your work in making this video is very hard. Well done
Thank you for your kind comments
I stuck with the Dell K series cooler, its actually not that bad. Just added better case fans.
Put this on my new xps 8950, threw a bios error so I put the original dell fan on in pull connected to the cpu port with the noctua in push connected to the port labeled pump, and the error went away. I don't know anything about computers so hopefully that configuration is fine.
I bought an XPS 8960 with the 13700 (non - K). The thing is it has liquid cooling which is very loud and annoying. Should I replace it with a noctua?
Save your microfiber towels and use coffee filters, they don't leave fibers behind and work great. No issue with moving the heatsink around on top of the IHS of the CPU just spreads the thermal interface material around more. The application of thermal paste seemed fine, rice size is good, you can have too little paste, but not really too much with in reason.
I appreciate your feedback
Thanks for explaining this, I was worried about this too
hey. got a verry similar 8940 last spring. complained that all the marketing material shows the larger premium cooler & the computer was only supplied with the cheaper pancake & they replaced it quickly with no problem.
looks like the fan can fit on either side of the noctua - worth a try running it with 2 fans 1 each side - maybee even some tube to funnel it directly to the case exhaust fan?
@JSyntax
Just did the rear fan upgrade and moved the stock to the front to help cool the GPU, on benchmark I got about 9C cooler! Any recommendation for newer GPU and CPU?
Thanks for the awesome video ! I can't find the second part where you mount the case fan. Can you post the link please ?
Its on my channel!
Great vids, I just lurched the XPS 8940 special edition with 11 gen i7-11700K, I made sure it was the K version as my sons XPS SE from 2019 the previous XPS Design with a non K version 19 processor and really regret not spending the extra $100 back then. My sons version has the worst fan setup I have seen, the new one I just purchased seems to have a lot more open air space for better air flow, even with the 3070. I should have it it about 2 weeks, so I’m thinking of the quickest way to improve my air flow from day 1, I really don’t want to change the K version processor cooler just yet, so I’m thinking to go with a larger back fan, and possibly mounting a front intake fan ( I did opt for a 2nd 2TB HDD, so I think that may need to be relocated ( correct?) or is there a workaround, if I need to move to another bay then I will. Have you come across any simple to install front mount intake fan setups since this video or the other fan video for XPS/g5 you had made? Also is there anyway to install an additional fan on the outside of the stock processor cooler that can create a push/pull setup using the existing setup? Creating more flow through the cooler? What would you recommend as a start to adding efficient / proper cooling from the start with out replacing the upgraded stock K cooler setup? Can the fan in the stock configuration be replaced while retaining the existing cooler setup? Thank you and appreciate and advise, tips offered in advance. I’ve used many XPS setups throughout the years and been happy but I plan on using this machine a little harder then those other XPS ones over the years ( with my first one being a fully loaded XPS M1710 laptop back in 2006, was a beast at the time). My main computer for my business is actually a 2014 Precision T7600 with dual xeon 6 cores just put a P1000 gpu just to run my 4 monitors without any adapters and that thing gets hammered at work daily, ( but can’t play a simple game on it, my son thinks it’s funny but can take up to 20 minutes every night closing every program and chrome tab that gets opened daily, not because it’s slow, because I literally don’t close anything during the day and running several graphic design programs). That workstation is like my old reliable 1970’s V8 Caddy when it come to reliability
Well enough on that, so basically I’m just trying to get as much simple bolt on power to the new much smaller, but more tech infused computer, and like most things MORE AIR ( used properly) MORE POWER
How much to tighten the screws of the cooler? After installation T'C max is 84. ( gaming -Call of duty) I don't see any difference.I tried with less thermal paste and a little bit more - same result.
The wrist ground is not in the description :/
@jsyntax thank you again for this install video. i'm not sure what's wrong but after following all of these directions and properly mounting the chromax u9s noctua, i continuously get the cpu fan failure error at start up error code 2000-0511. when i look at the cooler's fan and the rear fan they both spin but when i check my temps, it shows that my cpu jumps back and for from 100 - 113 F with nothing dropping down below that....any idea what might be wrong?
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Are you using the 4 pin?
@jsyntax i know this is an older video, but how did you get rid of the system fan failure error on booting up the computer?
Screwing it into the 1st groove was way easier did you screw it into second groove cause you have ocd or something it is not necessary
looking forward to your fan installl, i just upgraded the exhaust fan to a noctua nf-a9 pwm chromax black and also added a front intake fan using the noctua nf-f12 industrialppc 3000 pwm. im curious as to how you mounted your front fans. it seem as though you used a bracket.
Hi! Could you talk a bit about your exhaust fan upgrade ? You just replace the DELL OEM fan and then plug direcly the nf a9 to the motherboard ?
@@kingievo4411 yep thats it, i had no bios errors. i have the 0m6c7g motherboard. after the exhaust swap and adding the 80mm stock fan and the 120mm noctua front fans my cpu and gpu temps have improved a good deal. 76c gpu temp after 2 hours of gameplay where as before it was reaching arounf 83 to 85c. cpu temp is around 46c now as well and i havent even upgraded the cooler yet
need video will answer all your questions! links to the fan in the desc. of this video if you need the 3d printed part.
Thank you so much for this video, it's super helpful. I should've paid more attention though because I installed it with the fan on the wrong side and I was wondering why my PC was still getting so hot o.O
You could have also used a second fan on the CPU cooler
I'm quite ignorant about Canada so you should correct me but I really expected Canada to be all Metric? America uses freedom units, like 3/5UNF, they have an inch which is slightly different to an actual inch and a gallon that is different to an imperial gallon and here in blighty we mix units for no apparent reason. For example its -5C to make it sound cold and 90 degrees (F) when we want it to sound hot. For aircraft separation we use feet for the height and km for the horizonal distance in the official rules.
Do you think a core i5 10400f with a stock cooler and a gtx 1650 super could run normal temps on games such as fortnite since many of the reviewers purchase high end computers with rtx 20 30 series cards. Thanks
Also, if the computer does overheat, couldn’t I technically under volt the gpu and cpu since it is taking less energy which would significantly improve thermals.
youll be good, dont worry. u can always upgrade the cpu cooler as shown in this video!
@@JSyntax thanks! I was a little worried because I purchased one on sale last week.
I added a Noctua 12-mm case fan more out of caution than needed at this stage. Everything is so quiet. I still have an error at boot up that the CPU fan is not working. Any clues on how I may fix this?
add a splitter to keep the old fan? maybe something to do with the speed the dell fans can spin at.
Thank you dude, this is a lifesaver for upgrading my g5!
For the Workstation version of Dell G5 = Dell 8940, D9L only fits due to height limit. 8:30
reaally?! :O
Thanks for the video, really useful. What kind of temperatures are you seeing under load? I've an XPS with a 11700k and when gaming, HWinfo tells me I'm running between 75c to 82c. I typically play flightsim and racing games so it can be GPU amd CPU heavy but I'm curious to know what temps I should expect.
Note that I've changed the rear fan for a 92mm Artic fan and have managed fit a 120mm Artic fan at the front of the case to get airflow through the unit.
Cheers again.
No problem! I will check and see but they were improved a bit with the new fans where I'd say the problem was solved.
Hey JS,
This was an outstanding instructional video!! I did sends hours on this topic via the forms stated with more confusion and questions that you clarified. BTW what is your thought on liquid cooling, such as Cosair H80i v2 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler or H60?
If it's going to fit it'll be better than stock!
If you use 2 fans on the nh-u9s will u see a difference. It only comes with 1 fan but I'm thinking of putting a 2nd fan
Great video and information! You mentioned it would be great to upgrade from the stock pancake cooler to the Noctua. I will assume you would recommend upgrading the Dell K variant tall cooler form the pancake as well. I need help in determining if one of the upgraded K variant coolers will work in my Inspiron 3670. It also has the tiny stock pancake cooler. I believe it will bolt right on in the Inspiron 3670. What do you think??? Thanks!
I believe it's a good idea!
@@JSyntax me too! Do your think it will work? I’m going to try and find pictures of both motherboards with coolers off for comparison. Thanks!
I don't know about computers so this might sound dumb, but can you upgrade the motherboard later on without losing a bunch of stuff that may be attached to it?