I’m a woman and hate the men and women fight that’s going on. We have different roles but we are equal in value. Treat people with respect no matter the gender and there is only two. I couldn’t imagine shaming a man. I judge a man based on how he treats the vulnerable of society and that’s women and children. Don’t care what people say we are different. I judge a woman how she treats her family. Both need to work together
Have you ever thought about looking at the other side and what women have been through? Yes, society validates men's self-centerdness, and most certainly conservative religion does.
@@Himmiefan Have you ever noticed just how much womens issues and problems are put under a spotlight and addressed throughout media / corporate / society but how mens are pretty much either ignored or shut down? Open your eyes.
People with damage and a chip on their shoulder like to control others through shame. Men and women both do it, but it looks different depending on who does it. The only way to avoid it, from either sex, is to have enough self esteem to say no and enforce a zero tolerance standard on those who would try to weaponize it against you.
I wonder if it is warranted because (especially of men in this context) withdrawal and passivity is seen generally as a massive crime to humanity as a whole. And so both men and women who chose to persist can easily take a stance just as dismissive as their check-out from society.
@@roderickcortez138 arguably withdrawing is standing up for themselves. Why continue sacrificing for a society that says they don’t need men? Men should still strive to be the best they can be but I don’t blame them for walking away from a society that views them as disposable. Similarly to workers on a strike for better wages, sometimes the best way to elicit change is for your presence to be missed.
We better start having these conversations soon as a society because almost every single man I know young and old, ugly and handsome, strong and weak are angry. Keep it up and don’t be surprised when men take the power back by force. Let’s pray we don’t get there but we are ALL feeling it and believe me the very monsters they fear will come out. Y’all have been warned. Love and light May this whole issue be fixed soon
Way to prove the point that men are angry and violent. What if instead, you just worked on yourself and healed some of that anger and then you wouldn’t need to threaten violence to have power. That’s not real power. That’s just violence.
@@AndrewThomasAPT has absolutely nothing to do with me I’m sharing with you the observations I’m seeing with guys. Don’t get it twisted. Shaming won’t work here it’s only going to push people into darker places. I would appreciate that you acknowledge the pain of both sexes as a opposed to being the accuser. I invite you to entertain that possibility.
@@AndrewThomasAPT you live in a Disney fairytale. Just look at history and see what happens when u get a bunch of angry rudderless young men. Don’t delude yourself by expecting rational, sober and congenial responses. Lorenzo is spot on. I’ve seen and heard some things that in my generation would be unfathomable….and just imagine what would happen if u throw a fairly substantial recession and weak labor market on top of all of this.
being angry doesnt mean anything the peadough bankers will just use that anger as another color revolution while the peadough rulers thatcaused these problems wont face any consequences
To begin with, men should make the effort to be aware of the contribution men make to society and the comforts it creates for EVERYONE in society. The switch that is flicked and the lights and the kettle works. The roads, the water in the tap, fixing the car etc. Men need to promote these realities. Women are not excluded in the above, but they are few and far between. Men do not have to be ashamed of their contribution to society. They maintain the foundation of our society. They keep us from returning to the caves of our ancestors. Be proud of men's achievements.
Its more than the instance, it is the normalization I had a female coworker who openly said to other female coworkers that the only reason men have jobs at all, is because "They Have Kickstands" I promptly reported that language as sexual harassment. because if the tables were turned, I would be walked to the door for saying derogatory comments about female anatomy. Its an apt comparison. Of course nothing happened to her.
Typical. Just keep your head down and only keep conversations work-related. Keep small talk to a minimum if you can. You’re there to work, not socialize
it is that's the point of the boys club thats why they banned women from collage they wanted only men to go there not women to make sure they didn't do better. Males confirm this tactic for years on end now the modern era lets a few dames in but they don't really want them there and don't respect them they're shields with tits for incase of a controversy. You have no idea how baked in that is to the system its why in France lawyers be tripping over themselves to get a man who raped his wife and got over 60 other men to also rape his wife off on charges and paint her as some willing person inspite of being drugged and immobilized she is the perfect victims they can't find dirt on her and yet they be trying so hard due to sexism males want to aid males to get and do xyz over women as much as possible due to boys club is built in and not eroded enough it's normalized baked in boys club shit.
I've spent my whole 18:02 life being put down by women, for things I never did. And yet those same women lived off mens money. As for me, I'm comfortable as a hermit now.
Brother, their words mean nothing, because they come from people who are nothing. if you want the best revenge, become the happiest you, you can possibly be, then make sure they see you happy, and completely impervious to their worthless words.
@@teresamagnusson You'd be wrong then. My mother's hatred of her brother kicked it off. My sister's utter immersion in feminist theory fanned it. And they put the entire blame on me.
Yes!!! 💯 Connor! Here’s my opinion: many of the people subscribing to feminism as women are ALL GOOD and Patriarchy as Men are bad, or the other way around, is a huge red flag. When people (man or woman) hides behind these ideologies as a way to not look at the nuance and see how everyone plays a role in societal and relationship dynamics, to me it’s them not willing to receive necessary feedback that would allow them to see a fuller, more complete picture. They will stay in victim/oppressor mentality and ideologies. This will inevitably show up in their intimate relationships. And yes, you cannot have an equitable relationship under this limited perspective. Great episode! 🙌
The issue here is that that is not the definition of true feminism Feminism seeks to have society see women as equal in value to men and to give them their deserved rights in society. People disagreeing with that are walking red flags.
I think that women have this incredibly distorted view of men because frankly they dont understand them and sometimes when you don’t understand how something works you can’t really appreciate it. If you don’t have any true male friends who tell you about their experiences, they can’t empathize. For me I started really understanding men’s experiences when I got into a very serious relationship and he expressed to me all of the things men go through, it really opened my eyes and showed me a glimpse of what it’s like to be a man. I work in tech which is very male dominated and as I grew in my career I had lots of senior positions to men and I initially thought that I had to also be masculine like that since that’s what other women were doing who were successful however I realized that my femininity was my own super power. So thinking of the men that I work with as just men and understanding that they do not respond well to criticism and shaming but to appreciate them for the things they do right and celebrate them. I realized that they wanted to do even more for me just by saying thank you so much for helping me or you did so amazing on this project. I have a slew of male friends who are my colleagues due to this change in approach. I think men are actually quite easy to understand once you get to know their motivations
The only way this situation possibly gets better is if rational women speak out against this behavior. Society, particularly women, will not listen to us and will see it mere whining. The only time it really registers with women is when it impacts their sons.
Now imagine being a man who is BEING RAISED by women like this. I come from an extremely progressive New England town where this kind of thinking took hold decades ago. I thought adopting my family's outlook and that of the community at large would enhance my life, but it ended up doing the exact opposite.😒
“Should” is shaming. Our society is addicted to it. Don’t believe me? Start calling out others when they use “should” and see what kind of pushback you get. Stop using “should” in your own head and speech and notice how ingrained that feeling is in your worldview. It is tougher than you might think to remove “should” from your psyche, but entirely worth the work. “Addiction is anything you cannot say no to” ~ Gabor Matte
Well done! I have used that myself, it is a great way to separate the fools from the friends. Seeing how a person responds to a “nope” is one of the truest tests of character. Be well!
you should not kill kids b/c you want to be lazy and not take responsibility for having sex :) like you force men to do so :) oh wait you only want equality when it suits you
should is a moral claim and people are moral relativists and subjectivists, i just ask why should anyone do anything? because u say so? well i say they shouldnt therefore since ur a subjectivist u cant tell anyone why anything is right or wrong
that "should" comes from nothing less but the instinct men have to protect, like in "women and children first" because men "should" protect(and provide for) women and children sometimes it even turns into "have to" like when a war starts, Ukraine is example, nobody asks, men just have limited rights and that's it
shaming is surely an issue BUT can you ignore absence of due process, yes, I'm talking about "believe all women"? how about "affirmative action", can you ignore that? have you tried to avoid draft? the one that happens in Ukraine focusing on shaming is like talking about a fly when there is an elephant in the room, THE PURPLE ONE
I am also very tired of this gender divide. The worst part about this whole Patriarchy Virus is that if you try to question the validity of the idea that all men get together to figure out ways to screw women over, people look at you like you're saying the moon is made of cheese. Until we start to see each other as human beings and not as oppressors and victims we won't solve much. Great video.
I heard a female fbi profiler say something similar about testosterone - she said something about “the worst drug is not alcohol, it’s testosterone!”.. I was quite shocked to hear such a dumb take from an older and educated woman. Without testosterone our society would have never been built in the first place
@@brianmeen2158 Either we sit around holding hands and talking about our feelings, or the girls can grow gonads and start doing all the hard work. I have been waiting for years. I am a carpenter, and in the spirit of equality, I have offered woman to come and do an aprentaship I still have no takers, the money is good
Condemning testosterone is naive. The hormones exist in both men & women. The synthesis is the same in men & women. Starts with cholesterol: Morphs to progesterone: Morphs to testosterone: Morphs to estrogen Read sexologist John Money
Men live in reality (relatively) where as women live in narrative. Men pointing out reality is seen by women of the repression of their narrative desires.
@@deepsmoviereviews3212 He knows its a generalization, you are the one who is unaware. Saying SOME women is ALSO a generalization. If you cant intellectually apply the (in general) part after hearing an obvserable truth then i hope there is some enjoyment for you in derailing every general conversation unnecessarily.
The other day I was discussing this very topic with a woman I had just met. She was convinced that women have been subjected to men throughout history and that now is the time to break free. It’s hard for me to imagine a situation like that - centuries of relationships between men and women where women have been "an object of no value with the sole function of raising and caring." I truly struggle to picture that. In any case, today I was thinking that this subjugation, this oppression, and historical lack of freedom is not a gender issue. I was thinking about the centuries it took for men to be able to vote. From the earliest stages in Greece until practically the 19th century in many cases, men had no voice or vote. And that right was won by women 100 years after men. It doesn’t seem that this lack of freedom is due to gender, but rather to other kinds of power dynamics. I think saying that women have historically lived in subjugation is misleading. If anything, HUMAN BEINGS have historically lived in subjugation. How can I present these reflections? How can I talk about these topics sensibly? Any suggestions?
You need to learn history. Many men want to deny that it's been that bad for women, but yeah it has been. That doesn't mean it's your fault. It's not. But it is historical facts, and frankly, all of us, men, women, white people, black people, and so on have a duty to ensure that we don't backslide into the old ways of might makes right and power only to the powerful.
@@Himmiefan I think a lot of people take the normal struggle that everybody goes through and looks at history to explain things they want it to explain, yet can't see how things have already changed. People are not born knowing history, often it's selectively taught. I would imagine learning about Attachment Theory would cure most of the ills women today have about men vs blaming history on men alive today. History can only be selectively taught, it's impossible to know it all, it's impossible to use it to explain everything. People are not blank slates, most of what a person can do are abilities they are born with, yet for any new trait someone learns, that's 10,000 plus hours or more of work and practice to do that. Expecting people to be perfect is a narcissistic standard of abuse, if you can't accept that life is not perfect, then perfection is means of abusing others vs a standard that can be an inspiration, and not a judgment. Basically women just want thing easier at men's expense, where does it end? If you selectively learn historically than women are oppressed, and you're going to use that as an argument, it appeals to one's narcissistic side to not know the counter arguments. And when you talk about power, you're either refereeing to money, or tribalism. Money at least has to be spend to do anything, tribalism historically is the source of most of the wars and hate that exists today. This is why America is so hated, it has laws that protect individual rights from tribalism, and the rich. The stronger individual rights are, the harder it is for a dictator to take over. Himmiefan, do you know about that history?
In order for shame to work I have to value that person’s opinion. If there opinion is buttressed by facts I will continue to listen, however, too often it’s simply emotion. I simply tell them, “in order to feel shame I would have to value your opinion. I don’t.” They don’t want equality. They want “patriarchy on-demand” they want equality when it benefits them, but tradition when that benefits them more. They want equality in the C-suite but not in the coal mine. They want the patriarchy when it protects them, but not when they are asked to comply with the rules.
This crap was on the incline from 2019. This was the year i began working on myself, weight training ect. Low key, on the regular i was discouraged and shamed in a multitude of different ways. It went on for so long. A little tin foil hat but it most definetly felt like an agenda against me and i couldn't really talk to anyone about what was going on. Anyway, I transformed myself regardless and all this crap actually helped me toughen the hell up loads. Shame is a tool used for control of others. I am now shameless. Great video.
At this point I must say that being heterosexual is also a curse for me. I fond women beautiful and attractive, but I am not sure I actually like them.
@@p382742937423y4 I'm very attracted to women. Just like I'm attracted to junk food. But I know what is inside junk food. And I know what is inside women.
This patriarchy virus is mostly prevalent from western (US and Europe) women. Women that I've met who are from non-Western countries by and large do not have this perception.
if shaming was the issue... how would you ignore affirmative action? or draft? or lack of due process when it comes to "believe all women"? that sign "all men trash" is the least of mens problems
But there are few others that provide this. Women do not love, they consume and try to transition from survive to thrive. Women have evolved into this. Just accept it.
ThankU for tackling this tough topic. I grew up with man shaming, the women were violent. I did receive apologies, who am I to not forgive. But the damage proved intractable, I cannot pairbond. I'm glad I'm old. Born in 1953, women's liberation was getting going as I reached adulthood. I believed in it, it was sincere. There was awareness that the trappings of traditional femininity, the emphasis on fashion, hairdos, makeup, high heels, etc were subliminally tools of oppression. It was naively thought those trappings would fade in importance. But that didn't happen. Today's "feminism" betrays that original women's lib in emphasizing a vanity that I find offputting. Empowerment has translated to throwing tantrums. I happen to be friends with many trans folks. There have been many obstacles, or complications, to finding happiness that are unexpected. For the trans men, many are quite astonished at how difficult it is to be a man, to the point of feeling suicidal. I suppose the "battle of the sexes" is eternal
@@MdZeeshanAnsari-o5v The logic is that the higher your vibrational frequency, the higher your level of consciousness So someone at the lowest frequency is basically a frozen rock in space
Instead of crying poor me, maybe men need to be somewhat more assertive in their manhood and reminding everyone that pretty much everything that keeps them alive, safe and comfortable is due to the creativity and industriousness of men.
After getting laid off last year I decided to pursue a passion of mine and went to a archeology field school. It was a great experience overall and out of the 15 students I was only one of 4 males. The rest were female and everyone besides another were all youngins, like 18-22. I’m older, 28. And I was shocked at the amount of casual misandry I experienced in that group. Now it was never directed at me, but one of the girls liked saying “men are trash” etc, and it really made me feel unwelcome even though she was personally nice enough to me. The acceptance of the notion that men are inherently evil and/or stupid did not feel good but I’m old and educated enough to put all of that into perspective and not internalize it but I fear younger men might not have that ability. It made me think about how long women and girls have had to deal and still deal with casual misogyny from their peers and media and how damaging that is to someone’s sense of self. Im glad as a society we’re moving to help protect more women but we cannot do so at the expense of doing the same damage to men imo.
I recommend reading "Healing Civilization" by Claudio Naranjo. He talks in developmental terms, that individualism and patriarchy was a liberation from a more matriarchal ancient tribal society, but like all societal phases, it eventually becomes it's own monster. He believed it mirrors the brain. He talks about "mother, father, child" where it's the left brain, right brain, and subcortical brain and a more advanced society will be an integration of the three. Hating the patriarchy or anything masculine is like saying the respiratory system is superior to the cardiac system. They're organs of society. Like conservative vs liberal. It's madness to reject an archetype. From ideologues and terminally online deranged people of whom cannot see things in true complexity. It's about how heathy each archetype shows up.
Great video. Your insight is brilliant and right on. I enjoy your calm, rational, scientific, sociological dismantling of the dominant feminist culture, and how men can respond and take leadership in a healthy manner.
It’s not about money 100 u have the right partner you can go places. We came in this world with nothing we will leave without it. We need to build better connections. Look within and not without. Listen very closely to what someone says and look at their action.
@@stacy-annmorgan6685 you’re not wrong but it would be a lot easier to build those connections if i didn’t have to go to my warehouse job so that i can barely afford gas, rent and groceries
12:50 women ACTUALLY have more political power just think about that, those who speak to the larger audiences can spread opinions much faster and easier on average, women have significantly more "subscribers" on social media like Instagram or TikTok and so its easier for them to spread opinions I'd argue that is one of key reasons all that misandry spread so much Another key reason is solidarity, see if you can spot the difference, men protect weak, women protect women
More people need to talk about this. This isn't even limited to the US or Europe - I'm from Asia, and it's happening here as well. Platforms such as Reddit have become really insufferable for guys because of the toxic culture that's being spread there. Just look at the amount of people (women) who are using derogatory, sexist words such as 'mansplaining' or 'manspreading' - it's even here in local left-leaning newspapers (even in the editorial of a well-respected one). It's become mind-boggling as to how blindly and hypocritically women use these terms, completely invalidating the very existence of men. Like people point out all the time - if the reverse is ever done by a man, the backlash would be so strong that in many cases, the said man could even get into legal trouble. As for men resorting to such myopic tactics against other men - well, nothing could be sadder.
Through my faith I have come across many great women that really take accountability and strive to do their best to create value in life. It's a stark contrast with some of the people (and I see a lot of them on TikTok) that use oneliners like "dismantle the patriarchy" to paint a whole sex in a certain negative way. All life has aspects of both good and bad, and it's up to us to make sure we use our discernment to choose good as much as possible while minimising the bad. Stating that a whole sex is basically bad is basically what is called ignorance.
"it is the notion that anything wrong in the world is wrong because of men" This is so stupid and simplistic and it just denies the fact that a lot of women during history were the puppet masters and were in control of their husbands, kings, sons and brothers behind the scenes. Women were more important as we think they were. They have also never been the good angels from heaven we nowadays portray them as, this picture has to go.
Its stupid to call any historical problem due to gender. resources, religions, beleifs, diseases, skin color, trickey, lies. have all been the source of war. Women blamed it all on men using shame and lies to compete with them because its easier that way. that is something unforgiveable.
feminists blame men for everything while avoiding one really important fact, kids grow up spending most of the time with women: nurturing, baby-sitting, housewives, schools, all those places are dominated by women women have all time in the world to indoctrinate boys with whatever beliefs they want who is to blame then, men, right?
It's not very helpful in creating or correcting the picture if we cannot articulate who, what, or how this was allegedly done. Provide examples and details, not allegations and generalizations.
I see jokes all over the internet about how my generation's grandfather's were all physically abusive. My grandfather was the most gentle, caring man. I still think of him to this day and he died almost 15 years ago.
how on earth accountability can solve disposability of men? all that misandry is possible not because of lack of accountability but because it is OK towards those who "worth" less - men
These issues have taken years to manifest to the point men are actually acting on their revulsion. I can't trust women anymore and so I replaced them with motorcycles and guitars. I know that at middle age, any woman with an interest in me is just settling and I don't do emotional hangovers anymore.
I’ve learned the feline shaming playbook chapter and verse and have always responded by double and triple down in the opposite direction. I think women are blind to the category 3 storm gathering offshore. More and more I’ve see very open, visible and unabashed loathing of, in particular, Gen Z women by an ever increasing cohort of young men. The sad thing is that I’ve seen this directed at women that appear, at least in my estimation, as good wholesome girls. It’s like their getting lumped in as collateral damage. This isn’t sustainable and it’s becoming a tinder box. I think it’s high time women start shaming other women and telling them to shut up bc the bad apples are ruining it for the good ones. Just my 2 cents. I’m 50 and married with 2 kids so I have no real skin in this game.
The collateral damage does not exist. there are no innocents.Especially among them, they sit by, do nothing and even promote the hate, never stand against it. women have been given so much social and political power and all they use it to do is to self indulge, greed and dystroy men who dear speak out like fascists.
If men are loathing women and preparing to unleash Category 3 storm energy on them, I fail to see how it is the women that should be ashamed. Rather it shows how entitled men are to having sexual access to young women. I agree that the women should be warned and prepared.
I’ve just recently experienced this, the first woman I’ve dated in 2 years took to a smear campaign on one these dating the same dude pages, would be interesting to hear your thoughts on these things as they’re rarely used for their stated intent and instead seem to be more of a cancel culture witch hunt on men.
Men & masculinity built & continue to build the vast majority of the infrastructure we enjoy & take for granted as modern humans. If that’s the ‘all bad’ results you’re feeling oppressed by & in need of dismantling, you might want to rethink a few things before setting fire to it all.
Hey Connor, I’m newly subscribed to your channel and loving it, awesome work mate. I watched one of your clips the other day to do with being a fearful avoidant that you recommended watching with my wife - cant find it now, could you identify it please? Thanks heaps, Stu
Most sexual abuse is perpetrated by men. Ditto for violent crimes. This is not shaming. This is the truth. That said, projecting these facts onto every man and holding every man responsible for this IS shaming. I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, and I have heard many women repeat the myth that men who are abused go on to abuse others. It was incredibly damaging to hear that over and over again. Abused against my will, and now forever judged to be dangerous. I felt like there was no place for me.
"Most sexual abuse is perpetrated by men" - true, and there is a reason for that, and you as a man know what the reason is You, as every other men, been told its your responsibility to keep yourself in check I'd argue, because that is evolutionary advantage the whole humanity is benefiting from, especially women, the whole humanity has to compensate instead of shifting consequences onto individual men The same way humanity compensates women PS: don't get me wrong here, not saying sexual abuse is good, just that society somehow is blind to see it is a consequence and that makes it worse
I identify. I'm old, it's a miracle I did not succumb to self destruction. I experienced astonishing violence at the hands of women in the family. I did receive apologies later, which did offer help. Who am I to not forgive. But the damage proved intractable, I am unable to pairbond. I attend support groups for survivors. There are many who report abuse by women, including women survivors. It's not as one-sided as we might have thought
As an observer from Europe, it seems to me that misandry in the US (and other parts of the Anglosphere) has reached absurd levels of blatancy, which makes me think it might already be the peak, thus the beginning of the end of it. Also the widespread and strong push-back in social media seems to support this assumption. In Europe on the other hand (especially the northern half of the EU), feminist narratives and subtle misandry are way more entrenched in mainstream society - less overt, less vocal, but probably much more persistant in the long run.
Genuine question: What if you ask your partner “what do you think about men?”, and they start reciting anti-men rhetoric, meanwhile on a day to day basis they praise you for being a strong, supportive, masculine man?
@@raymond_sycamore you said "over men" not "over me" 😂 you don't look that old though, if war starts, you will be, while women will be free to do whatever that was just one example, how about affirmative action or lack of due process when it comes to "believe all women"? there are many more... all those things are connected through "men are sub humans" theme and so its OK to shame to blame to attack to neglect to disrespect to not empathise and so on
It is a virus and never surprisingly seen in bitter left-wing women, but of late I ran into two conservative gals(one religious) that repeated the shame a man mantras. I was more than surprised and had to recalibrate my interactions with them. It’s easier to feel than to think.
I think a lot of people take the normal struggle that everybody goes through and looks at history to explain things they want it to explain, yet can't see how things have already changed. People are not born knowing history, often it's selectively taught. I would imagine learning about Attachment Theory would cure most of the ills women today have about men vs blaming history on men alive today. History can only be selectively taught, it's impossible to know it all, it's impossible to use it to explain everything. People are not blank slates, most of what a person can do are abilities they are born with, yet for any new trait someone learns, that's 10,000 plus hours or more of work and practice to do that. Expecting people to be perfect is a narcissistic standard of abuse, if you can't accept that life is not perfect, then perfection is means of abusing others vs a standard that can be an inspiration, and not a judgment. Basically women just want thing easier at men's expense, where does it end? If you selectively learn historically than women are oppressed, and you're going to use that as an argument, it appeals to one's narcissistic side to not know the counter arguments. And when you talk about power, you either refereeing to money, or tribalism. Money at least has to be spend to do anything, tribalism historically is the source of most of the wars and hate that exists today. This is why America is so hated, it has laws that protect individual rights from tribalism, and the rich. The stronger individual rights are, the harder it is for a dictator to take over.
I just want to point out that we need to be careful not to conflate “equity” with “equality.” I may not have understood you correctly, but it sounded like you were doing this in what you were saying here
This dynamic can kinda work... right up to the point when votes are needed. At that point, you're counting on the shaming working all the way to a deep psychological point when it affects anonymous voting, and that's a tall order. Democratic Party - how did that approach work for you? Women engaging the 4B movement: take note.
6:32 the misogyny thing is bull because women are actually the misogynistic people out there because they actually hate each other. I noticed that as a common theme among my female friends.
no, women are simply oblivious to the existence of men who are not on top of the world its like you don't think much about people in Africa who die of hunger, right? most men just not register on the radar because women don't see you but they see someone like Brad Pitt, they are under impressionist that most men live life like his
4:32 What are the hormones of shame? My guess is it first gives endorphins The body's pain reliever. It also gives adrenaline. The side effect is the deployment of cortisol The stress hormone cortisol. Along with aldosterone the hypervigilance hormone
I’m Gen X. When I was a kid/teen women of all ages would say that men with beards were gross. That they would never date a man with a beard. That men with beards are ugly and have “something to hide”. Nobody in the 90’s had a full beard. At some point in the 2000’s a guy said “fuck it” and grew a full on beard. Other men thought “that looks cool as fuck” and perhaps a few more guys who were kind of MGTOW or Sigma (apologies for those crude labels) went and got one too. Women fell in line. To the point where most women these days salivate over Mamoa and Viking tv shows. Now it’s seen as the most masculine, attractive thing ever and if someone can’t grow a beard they’re seen as little boys. My point is this…. Do what you want, and completely ignore women. They will try all kinds of shaming tactics because that’s all they’ve got. Just go your own way and do your own thing and eventually they fall in line anyway. The alternative for them is they don’t get relationships and the security they crave. Any time a woman tries to shame you laugh and say “guilty!” And keep doing what you’re doing. A modified version of MGTOW (with less mysogony) is the future guys.
can you MGTOW affirmative action? or draft? or many other things signed into law? agree, its better then continuing to support the system but lets not deceive ourselves adverse effects can't reach us
@@jonathongoodwin I love the core philosophy of MGTOW - it’s beautiful and healthy, empowering etc. The problem with it is this - in practice, it is often (not always, obviously, but a very large percentage of the time) just a sour-grapes coping-mechanism for 1nçels in-denial. I don’t say that as an insult, I say it with the utmost empathy. Many of these guys will claim to go their own way but proceed to spend their days raging about women on the internet and being sexually frustrated. If you’re spending your free time tinkering with the carburetor on grandpa’s mustang, that’s one thing, but spending hours in Hammerhand/Rollo Tomassi livestreams is another.
The world's gone mad, lunatics are in charge of the asylum. Society is in bits. We're going thorough some real problems now though post CVD19, people are struggling to pay their bills, what you're talking about has taken a back seat.
If only this message is really understood by the mass. This hatetrad of man is in grain for two decades in the youths an still being boardcast through the media an entertainment industry to the masses. It's ganna take alot of work from everybody from both sides an time to get things back to close to being normal again.
Hurt people hurt people. The truth is many women infected with this virus had their trust in men violated at a young age, and have spent a lifetime unable to access their feminine energy. Which is truly saddening. It’s easy, and can even feel good at times to channel this pain and suffering into rage against something outside of yourself; something/someone to blame. Unfortunately, this makes everything worse for everyone.
Well, I think there are a lot of problems with men, it is true. Many murders, theft, violence, cheaters, gamblers... men, with their testosterone and capacity for aggression can have greatly destructive tendencies for a number of reasons. But I think that this "problem with men" or "problem in men" is the reason we need to support men in finding mentorship, creating spaces, rites and rituals for men. We need to be able to empower each other in recognition of our masculinity, not in rejection of it. When society is triggered by the idea of men's work, what does that say? It says society is threatened by what healed, compassionate, strong and powerful men can do, and the people who benefit the most from the current system do not want well protected, empowered communities.
Its like the concept of emasculation. Its a shame tactic. Its one if the many systems women employ ti gain power over you. Thats why i did the boss level move. Risky yess but it grants me immunity to emasculation.
“Shame is never a good motivator…” You’re right about misandry but you’re wrong about this. A hesitance to shame bad behavior is at least in part of why things are collectively shit. Don’t over-therapize men’s issues.
Your good faith argument is incorrect. Women used feminism feminism didn't use women. Are these ideologies really bad? Yes. But when you realize that it wasn't that men were tyrannical leaders it was that those societies that liberated women didn't last. I wonder why..... in india they view men as creators and women destroyers.... i wonder why?
I’m a woman with 4 brothers. I have pushed back against man-shaming for years. It’s heart-breaking.
You're doing your part and that's all that matters! Thanks 🙂
It’s so common and taken for granted now
Men won't forget the man shamkng, trust me they won't forget.
Are your brothers good?
I’m a woman and hate the men and women fight that’s going on. We have different roles but we are equal in value. Treat people with respect no matter the gender and there is only two. I couldn’t imagine shaming a man. I judge a man based on how he treats the vulnerable of society and that’s women and children. Don’t care what people say we are different. I judge a woman how she treats her family. Both need to work together
Kudos in validating men's collective resentment. Men know, see and feel the contempt of parents, relationships and society. Finally we're waking up.
Have you ever thought about looking at the other side and what women have been through? Yes, society validates men's self-centerdness, and most certainly conservative religion does.
@@Himmiefan Have you ever noticed just how much womens issues and problems are put under a spotlight and addressed throughout media / corporate / society but how mens are pretty much either ignored or shut down? Open your eyes.
@@HimmiefanMost mainstream entertainment outlets try doing that already. Just saying
@Himmiefan, that's not the topic. Why do so many people try to make it about women when people talk about men's issues?
@@Himmiefan Let men have their place to grieve for god´s sake. We live in a women centric society beyond the mirrors that you want to point
I prefer to call it what it is, misandry.
100%
Is so sad to hear all of this. 😔 I have 3 brothers and a wonderful father, and I can't conceive how any woman can think that man shaming is ok. 💔
You're an outlier. Most will do it even having brothers and a loving father.
People with damage and a chip on their shoulder like to control others through shame. Men and women both do it, but it looks different depending on who does it.
The only way to avoid it, from either sex, is to have enough self esteem to say no and enforce a zero tolerance standard on those who would try to weaponize it against you.
Many of them do it damn near on reflex.
We still don't trust you, anything you say, or represent.
@@NoMoneyOut found the incel
This is causing many men to withdraw from society
That’s the worst thing they could do though
Sadly they won't stand up for themselves. They just withdrawal instead. Kind of a coward move.
I see a lot of cruel references to Darwin concerning this mass male withdrawal as well. I wonder if the reference is at all warranted.
I wonder if it is warranted because (especially of men in this context) withdrawal and passivity is seen generally as a massive crime to humanity as a whole. And so both men and women who chose to persist can easily take a stance just as dismissive as their check-out from society.
@@roderickcortez138 arguably withdrawing is standing up for themselves. Why continue sacrificing for a society that says they don’t need men? Men should still strive to be the best they can be but I don’t blame them for walking away from a society that views them as disposable. Similarly to workers on a strike for better wages, sometimes the best way to elicit change is for your presence to be missed.
We better start having these conversations soon as a society because almost every single man I know young and old, ugly and handsome, strong and weak are angry.
Keep it up and don’t be surprised when men take the power back by force.
Let’s pray we don’t get there but we are ALL feeling it and believe me the very monsters they fear will come out.
Y’all have been warned.
Love and light May this whole issue be fixed soon
Men have always used their power against women by force. For us women, that's just a normal day.
Way to prove the point that men are angry and violent. What if instead, you just worked on yourself and healed some of that anger and then you wouldn’t need to threaten violence to have power. That’s not real power. That’s just violence.
@@AndrewThomasAPT has absolutely nothing to do with me I’m sharing with you the observations I’m seeing with guys. Don’t get it twisted. Shaming won’t work here it’s only going to push people into darker places. I would appreciate that you acknowledge the pain of both sexes as a opposed to being the accuser. I invite you to entertain that possibility.
@@AndrewThomasAPT you live in a Disney fairytale. Just look at history and see what happens when u get a bunch of angry rudderless young men. Don’t delude yourself by expecting rational, sober and congenial responses. Lorenzo is spot on. I’ve seen and heard some things that in my generation would be unfathomable….and just imagine what would happen if u throw a fairly substantial recession and weak labor market on top of all of this.
being angry doesnt mean anything the peadough bankers will just use that anger as another color revolution while the peadough rulers thatcaused these problems wont face any consequences
To begin with, men should make the effort to be aware of the contribution men make to society and the comforts it creates for EVERYONE in society. The switch that is flicked and the lights and the kettle works. The roads, the water in the tap, fixing the car etc. Men need to promote these realities. Women are not excluded in the above, but they are few and far between. Men do not have to be ashamed of their contribution to society. They maintain the foundation of our society. They keep us from returning to the caves of our ancestors. Be proud of men's achievements.
Those creature comforts are destroying the planet. We should have stayed in the cave. Men tend to be very short-sighted.
Its more than the instance, it is the normalization
I had a female coworker who openly said to other female coworkers that the only reason men have jobs at all, is because "They Have Kickstands"
I promptly reported that language as sexual harassment. because if the tables were turned, I would be walked to the door for saying derogatory comments about female anatomy. Its an apt comparison. Of course nothing happened to her.
Typical. Just keep your head down and only keep conversations work-related. Keep small talk to a minimum if you can. You’re there to work, not socialize
funny that, thats the sole reason any gal got any job they got a box
wow yet again they are projecting how typical
thats why u should work as little as possible and sabotage the company and move on to another soulless job
@@hhjklklop no women are given stuff cuz the people in power use women and kids to promote evol and d pop u lay tion
it is that's the point of the boys club thats why they banned women from collage they wanted only men to go there not women to make sure they didn't do better. Males confirm this tactic for years on end now the modern era lets a few dames in but they don't really want them there and don't respect them they're shields with tits for incase of a controversy.
You have no idea how baked in that is to the system its why in France lawyers be tripping over themselves to get a man who raped his wife and got over 60 other men to also rape his wife off on charges and paint her as some willing person inspite of being drugged and immobilized she is the perfect victims they can't find dirt on her and yet they be trying so hard due to sexism males want to aid males to get and do xyz over women as much as possible due to boys club is built in and not eroded enough it's normalized baked in boys club shit.
I've spent my whole 18:02 life being put down by women, for things I never did. And yet those same women lived off mens money.
As for me, I'm comfortable as a hermit now.
Brother, their words mean nothing, because they come from people who are nothing.
if you want the best revenge, become the happiest you, you can possibly be, then make sure they see you happy, and completely impervious to their worthless words.
Hermit mode it is for many of us.
Women can't do things for themselves so they need to emotionally manipulate men. That's how they survive.
I'd venture to guess that the rules set up by men for men are the culprit behind all the put downs.
@@teresamagnusson You'd be wrong then. My mother's hatred of her brother kicked it off. My sister's utter immersion in feminist theory fanned it. And they put the entire blame on me.
Yes!!! 💯 Connor!
Here’s my opinion: many of the people subscribing to feminism as women are ALL GOOD and Patriarchy as Men are bad, or the other way around, is a huge red flag.
When people (man or woman) hides behind these ideologies as a way to not look at the nuance and see how everyone plays a role in societal and relationship dynamics, to me it’s them not willing to receive necessary feedback that would allow them to see a fuller, more complete picture. They will stay in victim/oppressor mentality and ideologies. This will inevitably show up in their intimate relationships.
And yes, you cannot have an equitable relationship under this limited perspective.
Great episode! 🙌
The issue here is that that is not the definition of true feminism Feminism seeks to have society see women as equal in value to men and to give them their deserved rights in society. People disagreeing with that are walking red flags.
@@HimmiefanThat wasn't real feminism is just the No True Scotsman Fallacy.
I think that women have this incredibly distorted view of men because frankly they dont understand them and sometimes when you don’t understand how something works you can’t really appreciate it. If you don’t have any true male friends who tell you about their experiences, they can’t empathize. For me I started really understanding men’s experiences when I got into a very serious relationship and he expressed to me all of the things men go through, it really opened my eyes and showed me a glimpse of what it’s like to be a man.
I work in tech which is very male dominated and as I grew in my career I had lots of senior positions to men and I initially thought that I had to also be masculine like that since that’s what other women were doing who were successful however I realized that my femininity was my own super power. So thinking of the men that I work with as just men and understanding that they do not respond well to criticism and shaming but to appreciate them for the things they do right and celebrate them. I realized that they wanted to do even more for me just by saying thank you so much for helping me or you did so amazing on this project. I have a slew of male friends who are my colleagues due to this change in approach. I think men are actually quite easy to understand once you get to know their motivations
Yeah, I had a female friend, and she stopped being my friend after a while.
The only way this situation possibly gets better is if rational women speak out against this behavior. Society, particularly women, will not listen to us and will see it mere whining. The only time it really registers with women is when it impacts their sons.
Now imagine being a man who is BEING RAISED by women like this. I come from an extremely progressive New England town where this kind of thinking took hold decades ago. I thought adopting my family's outlook and that of the community at large would enhance my life, but it ended up doing the exact opposite.😒
What is the difference between what you want and what they want from you?
@@MarioMario-vy4bi Health
“Should” is shaming. Our society is addicted to it. Don’t believe me? Start calling out others when they use “should” and see what kind of pushback you get. Stop using “should” in your own head and speech and notice how ingrained that feeling is in your worldview. It is tougher than you might think to remove “should” from your psyche, but entirely worth the work.
“Addiction is anything you cannot say no to” ~ Gabor Matte
Well done! I have used that myself, it is a great way to separate the fools from the friends. Seeing how a person responds to a “nope” is one of the truest tests of character. Be well!
you should not kill kids b/c you want to be lazy and not take responsibility for having sex :) like you force men to do so :) oh wait you only want equality when it suits you
should is a moral claim and people are moral relativists and subjectivists, i just ask why should anyone do anything? because u say so? well i say they shouldnt therefore since ur a subjectivist u cant tell anyone why anything is right or wrong
“Should” is also arrogance. Shame based assessments of others is the path to many of societies ills.
that "should" comes from nothing less but the instinct men have to protect, like in "women and children first" because men "should" protect(and provide for) women and children
sometimes it even turns into "have to" like when a war starts, Ukraine is example, nobody asks, men just have limited rights and that's it
Ignore shaming attempts coming from shameless people.
shaming is surely an issue BUT
can you ignore absence of due process, yes, I'm talking about "believe all women"?
how about "affirmative action", can you ignore that?
have you tried to avoid draft? the one that happens in Ukraine
focusing on shaming is like talking about a fly when there is an elephant in the room, THE PURPLE ONE
S.I.G.N. language really is a thing, tactic of the amoral.
@@nimblehuman You can't make that shit up, RIP to KS
I am also very tired of this gender divide. The worst part about this whole Patriarchy Virus is that if you try to question the validity of the idea that all men get together to figure out ways to screw women over, people look at you like you're saying the moon is made of cheese.
Until we start to see each other as human beings and not as oppressors and victims we won't solve much.
Great video.
that is the reason many think feminism is marxism ideology, men and women as in bourgeoisie and hard working people
I heard a female fbi profiler say something similar about testosterone - she said something about “the worst drug is not alcohol, it’s testosterone!”.. I was quite shocked to hear such a dumb take from an older and educated woman. Without testosterone our society would have never been built in the first place
Reading this makes me want to get on steroids
Without testosterone, good men could not protect their loved ones from other men!
@@brianmeen2158 Either we sit around holding hands and talking about our feelings, or the girls can grow gonads and start doing all the hard work. I have been waiting for years. I am a carpenter, and in the spirit of equality, I have offered woman to come and do an aprentaship I still have no takers, the money is good
Condemning testosterone is naive. The hormones exist in both men & women. The synthesis is the same in men & women. Starts with cholesterol: Morphs to progesterone: Morphs to testosterone: Morphs to estrogen
Read sexologist John Money
Testosterone can make you lethal, violent. But estrogen is good at manipulating lethality and violence of men.
Men live in reality (relatively) where as women live in narrative. Men pointing out reality is seen by women of the repression of their narrative desires.
Yes, the narrative created by their emotions. This is why the modern experiment of giving women rights is doomed to failure.
I think that's a generalization. Some women do believe in narratives.
@@deepsmoviereviews3212 He knows its a generalization, you are the one who is unaware. Saying SOME women is ALSO a generalization. If you cant intellectually apply the (in general) part after hearing an obvserable truth then i hope there is some enjoyment for you in derailing every general conversation unnecessarily.
The other day I was discussing this very topic with a woman I had just met. She was convinced that women have been subjected to men throughout history and that now is the time to break free. It’s hard for me to imagine a situation like that - centuries of relationships between men and women where women have been "an object of no value with the sole function of raising and caring." I truly struggle to picture that. In any case, today I was thinking that this subjugation, this oppression, and historical lack of freedom is not a gender issue. I was thinking about the centuries it took for men to be able to vote. From the earliest stages in Greece until practically the 19th century in many cases, men had no voice or vote. And that right was won by women 100 years after men. It doesn’t seem that this lack of freedom is due to gender, but rather to other kinds of power dynamics. I think saying that women have historically lived in subjugation is misleading. If anything, HUMAN BEINGS have historically lived in subjugation. How can I present these reflections? How can I talk about these topics sensibly? Any suggestions?
Taking history out of context is how they achieve that brain washing.
You need to learn history. Many men want to deny that it's been that bad for women, but yeah it has been. That doesn't mean it's your fault. It's not. But it is historical facts, and frankly, all of us, men, women, white people, black people, and so on have a duty to ensure that we don't backslide into the old ways of might makes right and power only to the powerful.
@@Himmiefan I think a lot of people take the normal struggle that everybody goes through and looks at history to explain things they want it to explain, yet can't see how things have already changed. People are not born knowing history, often it's selectively taught. I would imagine learning about Attachment Theory would cure most of the ills women today have about men vs blaming history on men alive today. History can only be selectively taught, it's impossible to know it all, it's impossible to use it to explain everything. People are not blank slates, most of what a person can do are abilities they are born with, yet for any new trait someone learns, that's 10,000 plus hours or more of work and practice to do that. Expecting people to be perfect is a narcissistic standard of abuse, if you can't accept that life is not perfect, then perfection is means of abusing others vs a standard that can be an inspiration, and not a judgment. Basically women just want thing easier at men's expense, where does it end? If you selectively learn historically than women are oppressed, and you're going to use that as an argument, it appeals to one's narcissistic side to not know the counter arguments.
And when you talk about power, you're either refereeing to money, or tribalism. Money at least has to be spend to do anything, tribalism historically is the source of most of the wars and hate that exists today. This is why America is so hated, it has laws that protect individual rights from tribalism, and the rich. The stronger individual rights are, the harder it is for a dictator to take over. Himmiefan, do you know about that history?
@@Himmiefanmany women want to deny it's been bad for men. But yeah it has been.
There is no way... sorry 😂most of them won't listen. Don't try, brother, for the sake of your own safety and sanity.
In order for shame to work I have to value that person’s opinion.
If there opinion is buttressed by facts I will continue to listen, however, too often it’s simply emotion.
I simply tell them, “in order to feel shame I would have to value your opinion.
I don’t.”
They don’t want equality.
They want “patriarchy on-demand” they want equality when it benefits them, but tradition when that benefits them more.
They want equality in the C-suite but not in the coal mine.
They want the patriarchy when it protects them, but not when they are asked to comply with the rules.
Exactly ... and many men in the West no longer value or care about the opinions of the shamers. It's just background noise now ... blah, blah, blah
Yup.
This is why calling them ''leftists'' is a fallacy as they are the opposite.
What is patriarchy on demand?
@@MarioMario-vy4bi The corollary to Schroedinger's Feminist?
This crap was on the incline from 2019. This was the year i began working on myself, weight training ect. Low key, on the regular i was discouraged and shamed in a multitude of different ways. It went on for so long. A little tin foil hat but it most definetly felt like an agenda against me and i couldn't really talk to anyone about what was going on. Anyway, I transformed myself regardless and all this crap actually helped me toughen the hell up loads. Shame is a tool used for control of others. I am now shameless. Great video.
I think, a lot of vvomen are upset that they are attracted to men.
A lot of women really don’t like the power that masculinity has over them .
At this point I must say that being heterosexual is also a curse for me. I fond women beautiful and attractive, but I am not sure I actually like them.
@p382742937423y4 good point lol
@@p382742937423y4 I'm very attracted to women. Just like I'm attracted to junk food. But I know what is inside junk food. And I know what is inside women.
@@p382742937423y4 -- I only like them biologically for 45min at a time.
Everything else about them, I abhor.
The internet has caused a lot of this stuff.
This patriarchy virus is mostly prevalent from western (US and Europe) women. Women that I've met who are from non-Western countries by and large do not have this perception.
Shaming only works if you care what others think of you ! When you give a damn, life is a hell of a lot better!
if shaming was the issue...
how would you ignore affirmative action?
or draft?
or lack of due process when it comes to "believe all women"?
that sign "all men trash" is the least of mens problems
In Victoria, Australia we now have a parliamentary secretary for “men’s behaviour change”.
His name is Tim Richardson, appointed by Jacinta Allan.
I’ll have to look this up cause that’s crazy
We all need to love and appreciate what we bring to the table
But there are few others that provide this. Women do not love, they consume and try to transition from survive to thrive. Women have evolved into this. Just accept it.
@@justinjex1 What do you mean "women do not love" ?! That's preposterous. WTF........
You sir just earned my subscription.
ThankU for tackling this tough topic. I grew up with man shaming, the women were violent. I did receive apologies, who am I to not forgive. But the damage proved intractable, I cannot pairbond. I'm glad I'm old.
Born in 1953, women's liberation was getting going as I reached adulthood. I believed in it, it was sincere. There was awareness that the trappings of traditional femininity, the emphasis on fashion, hairdos, makeup, high heels, etc were subliminally tools of oppression. It was naively thought those trappings would fade in importance. But that didn't happen. Today's "feminism" betrays that original women's lib in emphasizing a vanity that I find offputting. Empowerment has translated to throwing tantrums.
I happen to be friends with many trans folks. There have been many obstacles, or complications, to finding happiness that are unexpected. For the trans men, many are quite astonished at how difficult it is to be a man, to the point of feeling suicidal.
I suppose the "battle of the sexes" is eternal
Divide and Conquer everywhere you look 🤗
Don't buy into it...
👍
It's the lowest vibrational frequency
I'm going to start using this as an insult from now on.
'hes the absolute lowest vibrational frequency' lol
@@rexcatston8412 what is "vibration" ?
@@MdZeeshanAnsari-o5v
The logic is that the higher your vibrational frequency, the higher your level of consciousness
So someone at the lowest frequency is basically a frozen rock in space
Instead of crying poor me, maybe men need to be somewhat more assertive in their manhood and reminding everyone that pretty much everything that keeps them alive, safe and comfortable is due to the creativity and industriousness of men.
I do agree that self victimization will only make their situations worse. But they do have to first understand the problem to then fix it.
After getting laid off last year I decided to pursue a passion of mine and went to a archeology field school. It was a great experience overall and out of the 15 students I was only one of 4 males. The rest were female and everyone besides another were all youngins, like 18-22. I’m older, 28. And I was shocked at the amount of casual misandry I experienced in that group. Now it was never directed at me, but one of the girls liked saying “men are trash” etc, and it really made me feel unwelcome even though she was personally nice enough to me. The acceptance of the notion that men are inherently evil and/or stupid did not feel good but I’m old and educated enough to put all of that into perspective and not internalize it but I fear younger men might not have that ability. It made me think about how long women and girls have had to deal and still deal with casual misogyny from their peers and media and how damaging that is to someone’s sense of self. Im glad as a society we’re moving to help protect more women but we cannot do so at the expense of doing the same damage to men imo.
Well explained. Thanks for the video
I recommend reading "Healing Civilization" by Claudio Naranjo. He talks in developmental terms, that individualism and patriarchy was a liberation from a more matriarchal ancient tribal society, but like all societal phases, it eventually becomes it's own monster. He believed it mirrors the brain. He talks about "mother, father, child" where it's the left brain, right brain, and subcortical brain and a more advanced society will be an integration of the three. Hating the patriarchy or anything masculine is like saying the respiratory system is superior to the cardiac system. They're organs of society. Like conservative vs liberal. It's madness to reject an archetype. From ideologues and terminally online deranged people of whom cannot see things in true complexity. It's about how heathy each archetype shows up.
I like how they are trying to shame men back into society now.
Screwe this society im not a slave to a world that doesent give a shyt
I haven't read all the comments, but we have to get men to stop shaming other men to gain what they think is favor from women.
Shame causes a person to ultimately freeze and be unable to move forward, or do anything but experience pain
Great video. Your insight is brilliant and right on. I enjoy your calm, rational, scientific, sociological dismantling of the dominant feminist culture, and how men can respond and take leadership in a healthy manner.
I wish I would have heard this about fifteen years ago!
i can’t afford exercising power over women bruh i’m broke
And I just finished work, I'm not exercising anything tonight!
@@rexcatston8412 facts i can’t even afford enough food to power myself in general exercise
It’s not about money 100 u have the right partner you can go places. We came in this world with nothing we will leave without it. We need to build better connections. Look within and not without. Listen very closely to what someone says and look at their action.
@@stacy-annmorgan6685 you’re not wrong but it would be a lot easier to build those connections if i didn’t have to go to my warehouse job so that i can barely afford gas, rent and groceries
12:50 women ACTUALLY have more political power
just think about that, those who speak to the larger audiences can spread opinions much faster and easier
on average, women have significantly more "subscribers" on social media like Instagram or TikTok and so its easier for them to spread opinions
I'd argue that is one of key reasons all that misandry spread so much
Another key reason is solidarity, see if you can spot the difference, men protect weak, women protect women
I completely agree with you in this video and I sent it to several people who I believe would benefit from it mainly young men
"Your boos mean nothing to me, ive seen what makes you cheer"
More people need to talk about this. This isn't even limited to the US or Europe - I'm from Asia, and it's happening here as well. Platforms such as Reddit have become really insufferable for guys because of the toxic culture that's being spread there. Just look at the amount of people (women) who are using derogatory, sexist words such as 'mansplaining' or 'manspreading' - it's even here in local left-leaning newspapers (even in the editorial of a well-respected one). It's become mind-boggling as to how blindly and hypocritically women use these terms, completely invalidating the very existence of men. Like people point out all the time - if the reverse is ever done by a man, the backlash would be so strong that in many cases, the said man could even get into legal trouble. As for men resorting to such myopic tactics against other men - well, nothing could be sadder.
I like the new lighting. Adds a bit of "heat" to the frustration you're feeling around the topic. Dunno if this was intentional but nice touch.
Through my faith I have come across many great women that really take accountability and strive to do their best to create value in life. It's a stark contrast with some of the people (and I see a lot of them on TikTok) that use oneliners like "dismantle the patriarchy" to paint a whole sex in a certain negative way.
All life has aspects of both good and bad, and it's up to us to make sure we use our discernment to choose good as much as possible while minimising the bad. Stating that a whole sex is basically bad is basically what is called ignorance.
And that testosterone argument is beyond idiotic. Do people forget both sexes have testosterone?
Thanks for giving us a better voice than the average redpill bs... those guys just do more of the same, and it's surely not healthy.
"it is the notion that anything wrong in the world is wrong because of men"
This is so stupid and simplistic and it just denies the fact that a lot of women during history were the puppet masters and were in control of their husbands, kings, sons and brothers behind the scenes. Women were more important as we think they were. They have also never been the good angels from heaven we nowadays portray them as, this picture has to go.
Femme fatales. But feminists usually defend their actions
Its stupid to call any historical problem due to gender.
resources, religions, beleifs, diseases, skin color, trickey, lies.
have all been the source of war. Women blamed it all on men using shame and lies to compete with them because its easier that way.
that is something unforgiveable.
feminists blame men for everything while avoiding one really important fact, kids grow up spending most of the time with women: nurturing, baby-sitting, housewives, schools, all those places are dominated by women
women have all time in the world to indoctrinate boys with whatever beliefs they want
who is to blame then, men, right?
It's not very helpful in creating or correcting the picture if we cannot articulate who, what, or how this was allegedly done. Provide examples and details, not allegations and generalizations.
The loss of shame is the begining of imbecility.
I see jokes all over the internet about how my generation's grandfather's were all physically abusive. My grandfather was the most gentle, caring man. I still think of him to this day and he died almost 15 years ago.
Accountability solves most of these issues.
how on earth accountability can solve disposability of men?
all that misandry is possible not because of lack of accountability but because it is OK towards those who "worth" less - men
These issues have taken years to manifest to the point men are actually acting on their revulsion. I can't trust women anymore and so I replaced them with motorcycles and guitars. I know that at middle age, any woman with an interest in me is just settling and I don't do emotional hangovers anymore.
I’ve learned the feline shaming playbook chapter and verse and have always responded by double and triple down in the opposite direction. I think women are blind to the category 3 storm gathering offshore. More and more I’ve see very open, visible and unabashed loathing of, in particular, Gen Z women by an ever increasing cohort of young men. The sad thing is that I’ve seen this directed at women that appear, at least in my estimation, as good wholesome girls. It’s like their getting lumped in as collateral damage. This isn’t sustainable and it’s becoming a tinder box. I think it’s high time women start shaming other women and telling them to shut up bc the bad apples are ruining it for the good ones. Just my 2 cents. I’m 50 and married with 2 kids so I have no real skin in this game.
The collateral damage does not exist. there are no innocents.Especially among them, they sit by, do nothing and even promote the hate, never stand against it. women have been given so much social and political power and all they use it to do is to self indulge, greed and dystroy men who dear speak out like fascists.
If men are loathing women and preparing to unleash Category 3 storm energy on them, I fail to see how it is the women that should be ashamed. Rather it shows how entitled men are to having sexual access to young women. I agree that the women should be warned and prepared.
2024 is great because we’ve achieved equality.
Men have been willfully neglected and women have been artificially propped up and elevated.
Spot on 🎯
Excellent video with some good points made well and articulately
I’ve just recently experienced this, the first woman I’ve dated in 2 years took to a smear campaign on one these dating the same dude pages, would be interesting to hear your thoughts on these things as they’re rarely used for their stated intent and instead seem to be more of a cancel culture witch hunt on men.
Men & masculinity built & continue to build the vast majority of the infrastructure we enjoy & take for granted as modern humans. If that’s the ‘all bad’ results you’re feeling oppressed by & in need of dismantling, you might want to rethink a few things before setting fire to it all.
"take for granted" that is what "independent" women do
Thank you Connor. Good job. Well done. Have a lovely day.
Great video!
Hey Connor, I’m newly subscribed to your channel and loving it, awesome work mate. I watched one of your clips the other day to do with being a fearful avoidant that you recommended watching with my wife - cant find it now, could you identify it please? Thanks heaps, Stu
Most sexual abuse is perpetrated by men. Ditto for violent crimes. This is not shaming. This is the truth. That said, projecting these facts onto every man and holding every man responsible for this IS shaming.
I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, and I have heard many women repeat the myth that men who are abused go on to abuse others. It was incredibly damaging to hear that over and over again. Abused against my will, and now forever judged to be dangerous. I felt like there was no place for me.
"Most sexual abuse is perpetrated by men" - true, and there is a reason for that, and you as a man know what the reason is
You, as every other men, been told its your responsibility to keep yourself in check
I'd argue, because that is evolutionary advantage the whole humanity is benefiting from, especially women, the whole humanity has to compensate instead of shifting consequences onto individual men
The same way humanity compensates women
PS: don't get me wrong here, not saying sexual abuse is good, just that society somehow is blind to see it is a consequence and that makes it worse
I identify. I'm old, it's a miracle I did not succumb to self destruction. I experienced astonishing violence at the hands of women in the family. I did receive apologies later, which did offer help. Who am I to not forgive. But the damage proved intractable, I am unable to pairbond.
I attend support groups for survivors. There are many who report abuse by women, including women survivors. It's not as one-sided as we might have thought
@@carlorizzo827 thank you for sharing!
@@wizardadmin I am not sure what you’re getting at, but this sounds a lot like victim blaming.
@@danielletourneau7943 I can assure you that was not what I meant
However, calling everything "victim blaming" makes it worse
First one ah... bless you from italy man
As an observer from Europe, it seems to me that misandry in the US (and other parts of the Anglosphere) has reached absurd levels of blatancy, which makes me think it might already be the peak, thus the beginning of the end of it. Also the widespread and strong push-back in social media seems to support this assumption. In Europe on the other hand (especially the northern half of the EU), feminist narratives and subtle misandry are way more entrenched in mainstream society - less overt, less vocal, but probably much more persistant in the long run.
Genuine question: What if you ask your partner “what do you think about men?”, and they start reciting anti-men rhetoric, meanwhile on a day to day basis they praise you for being a strong, supportive, masculine man?
The cognitive dissonance is strong with that one. One of the sides is unequivocally a lie, and you better find out which before is too late.
Shame have no power over men.
how about law? can you dodge draft?
@@wizardadmin im old, nobody is drafting me
@@raymond_sycamore you said "over men" not "over me" 😂
you don't look that old though, if war starts, you will be, while women will be free to do whatever
that was just one example, how about affirmative action or lack of due process when it comes to "believe all women"?
there are many more...
all those things are connected through "men are sub humans" theme and so its OK to shame to blame to attack to neglect to disrespect to not empathise and so on
i put it down more to envy and spite due to social media
It is a virus and never surprisingly seen in bitter left-wing women, but of late I ran into two conservative gals(one religious) that repeated the shame a man mantras. I was more than surprised and had to recalibrate my interactions with them. It’s easier to feel than to think.
the people shaming men are the ones to who have something to be ashamed of
Please watch the video in its entirety before saying "he's supporting toxic masculinity". That is not the case.
I think a lot of people take the normal struggle that everybody goes through and looks at history to explain things they want it to explain, yet can't see how things have already changed. People are not born knowing history, often it's selectively taught. I would imagine learning about Attachment Theory would cure most of the ills women today have about men vs blaming history on men alive today. History can only be selectively taught, it's impossible to know it all, it's impossible to use it to explain everything. People are not blank slates, most of what a person can do are abilities they are born with, yet for any new trait someone learns, that's 10,000 plus hours or more of work and practice to do that. Expecting people to be perfect is a narcissistic standard of abuse, if you can't accept that life is not perfect, then perfection is means of abusing others vs a standard that can be an inspiration, and not a judgment. Basically women just want thing easier at men's expense, where does it end? If you selectively learn historically than women are oppressed, and you're going to use that as an argument, it appeals to one's narcissistic side to not know the counter arguments.
And when you talk about power, you either refereeing to money, or tribalism. Money at least has to be spend to do anything, tribalism historically is the source of most of the wars and hate that exists today. This is why America is so hated, it has laws that protect individual rights from tribalism, and the rich. The stronger individual rights are, the harder it is for a dictator to take over.
Welcome to the Mormon Church 😂😂😂 This is a complete summary of how the leaders and women treat the men.
Resonates deeply
hittin hard AF
It’s like that old African saying if the men don’t get warmth from the village, they will burn it down to get warm.
Now you know damn well the women that need to hear this message are never going to hear it or ever want to listen.
the art of being a an is not giving an F.
I just want to point out that we need to be careful not to conflate “equity” with “equality.” I may not have understood you correctly, but it sounded like you were doing this in what you were saying here
This dynamic can kinda work... right up to the point when votes are needed. At that point, you're counting on the shaming working all the way to a deep psychological point when it affects anonymous voting, and that's a tall order.
Democratic Party - how did that approach work for you?
Women engaging the 4B movement: take note.
Its bin going on all my life 56 years. Only getting worse. Just gotta tune it out.
6:32 the misogyny thing is bull because women are actually the misogynistic people out there because they actually hate each other. I noticed that as a common theme among my female friends.
The concept of the Patriarchy fits neatly into the conspiracy theory model.
no, women are simply oblivious to the existence of men who are not on top of the world
its like you don't think much about people in Africa who die of hunger, right?
most men just not register on the radar
because women don't see you but they see someone like Brad Pitt, they are under impressionist that most men live life like his
4:32 What are the hormones of shame? My guess is it first gives endorphins The body's pain reliever. It also gives adrenaline. The side effect is the deployment of cortisol The stress hormone cortisol. Along with aldosterone the hypervigilance hormone
I’m Gen X. When I was a kid/teen women of all ages would say that men with beards were gross. That they would never date a man with a beard. That men with beards are ugly and have “something to hide”. Nobody in the 90’s had a full beard.
At some point in the 2000’s a guy said “fuck it” and grew a full on beard. Other men thought “that looks cool as fuck” and perhaps a few more guys who were kind of MGTOW or Sigma (apologies for those crude labels) went and got one too.
Women fell in line.
To the point where most women these days salivate over Mamoa and Viking tv shows. Now it’s seen as the most masculine, attractive thing ever and if someone can’t grow a beard they’re seen as little boys.
My point is this….
Do what you want, and completely ignore women. They will try all kinds of shaming tactics because that’s all they’ve got. Just go your own way and do your own thing and eventually they fall in line anyway.
The alternative for them is they don’t get relationships and the security they crave.
Any time a woman tries to shame you laugh and say “guilty!” And keep doing what you’re doing.
A modified version of MGTOW (with less mysogony) is the future guys.
MGTOW is the answer
can you MGTOW affirmative action? or draft? or many other things signed into law?
agree, its better then continuing to support the system but lets not deceive ourselves adverse effects can't reach us
Homosexualism is the answer
MGTOW is cowardice. Man up.
@@jonathongoodwin I love the core philosophy of MGTOW - it’s beautiful and healthy, empowering etc.
The problem with it is this - in practice, it is often (not always, obviously, but a very large percentage of the time) just a sour-grapes coping-mechanism for 1nçels in-denial. I don’t say that as an insult, I say it with the utmost empathy. Many of these guys will claim to go their own way but proceed to spend their days raging about women on the internet and being sexually frustrated. If you’re spending your free time tinkering with the carburetor on grandpa’s mustang, that’s one thing, but spending hours in Hammerhand/Rollo Tomassi livestreams is another.
What exactly is the patriarchy?
An illusion.
A scapegoat for groups with political agendas.
another way to gaslight you into thinking you are privileged and owe something
Nice essay
The world's gone mad, lunatics are in charge of the asylum. Society is in bits.
We're going thorough some real problems now though post CVD19, people are struggling to pay their bills, what you're talking about has taken a back seat.
If only this message is really understood by the mass. This hatetrad of man is in grain for two decades in the youths an still being boardcast through the media an entertainment industry to the masses. It's ganna take alot of work from everybody from both sides an time to get things back to close to being normal again.
Hurt people hurt people. The truth is many women infected with this virus had their trust in men violated at a young age, and have spent a lifetime unable to access their feminine energy. Which is truly saddening. It’s easy, and can even feel good at times to channel this pain and suffering into rage against something outside of yourself; something/someone to blame. Unfortunately, this makes everything worse for everyone.
Let's not put this on men this is a female problem I've seen many women who have this mindset and they had perfectly normal lives.
@@Joshua-eo5hr its ALWAYS mens fault. this is why women are children. they never have agency ever.
Well, I think there are a lot of problems with men, it is true. Many murders, theft, violence, cheaters, gamblers... men, with their testosterone and capacity for aggression can have greatly destructive tendencies for a number of reasons. But I think that this "problem with men" or "problem in men" is the reason we need to support men in finding mentorship, creating spaces, rites and rituals for men. We need to be able to empower each other in recognition of our masculinity, not in rejection of it.
When society is triggered by the idea of men's work, what does that say? It says society is threatened by what healed, compassionate, strong and powerful men can do, and the people who benefit the most from the current system do not want well protected, empowered communities.
Awful bold of women to think that they are necessary and their opinions matter.
Its like the concept of emasculation. Its a shame tactic. Its one if the many systems women employ ti gain power over you. Thats why i did the boss level move. Risky yess but it grants me immunity to emasculation.
“Shame is never a good motivator…”
You’re right about misandry but you’re wrong about this. A hesitance to shame bad behavior is at least in part of why things are collectively shit. Don’t over-therapize men’s issues.
Your good faith argument is incorrect. Women used feminism feminism didn't use women.
Are these ideologies really bad? Yes. But when you realize that it wasn't that men were tyrannical leaders it was that those societies that liberated women didn't last. I wonder why..... in india they view men as creators and women destroyers.... i wonder why?
6:21 black and white cognitive distortion
Not to offend..but you are 2 to 3 years behind ?
Why does this channel attract so many inschmels?
And it also attracts the rest of the men too. It has come to a breaking point where none of them want to be controlled.
I think you need to think about and factor in gynocentrism into your argument. Look into the gender empathy gap.