THE GAMING STORYTELLER on Successor Chapters | Astartes Anonymous Podcast #13

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  • @Dutch40KGuy
    @Dutch40KGuy Рік тому +25

    It was so much fun to be on this podcast!! I DID make some lore mistakes as I was super tired at that point, I hope you guys don't mind too much.
    Thank you so much for having me

    • @roleff
      @roleff Рік тому +2

      Love your work, Dutch 🔥🔥🔥

    • @SonnyBear5
      @SonnyBear5 11 місяців тому +2

      Your growth is amazing! Can't believe you're a 3 time award winning painter! I JUST got into painting minis myself so this was a crazy discovery. My army is also red, but they're from Mars.

  • @DragonsHoardOfPlastic
    @DragonsHoardOfPlastic Рік тому +136

    The casual drop of "I have three" followed by you guys losing your minds was so good.

    • @b1-battledroid669
      @b1-battledroid669 11 місяців тому +11

      Reminds me of when Lorgar was talking to Magnus about those spaceship things and just went “I built three” lol

  • @davidtrujillo1689
    @davidtrujillo1689 11 місяців тому +19

    Fun fact about the exorcists: In the new siege of Cthonia book the defender were mainly made out of Imperial fists, but there were also a sizable force of loyalist Thousand sons, who changed their colors to signify their loyalist status to a deep blood red and black shoulders, the same colors of the exorcists first company.
    This theory is supported by the same book, the book states that after the siege of Cthonia, Evander Garrius (the Imperial fist commander in charge of the siege) took his forces on crusade during the scouring and was lost for some time.
    When they actually re apeared his forces were accompanied by red armored “sons of dorn”.
    So basically it is hinted that the exorcist are the remnants of the loyal thousand sons, that explains their unnatural resilience to daemonic possession and their high number of warp sensitive battle brothers.

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 7 місяців тому

      Cthonia Reckoning the book you’re talking about?

  • @KillerOrca
    @KillerOrca Рік тому +14

    The amount of Fist sons mentioned here does my Dornian heart good.
    In the words of the Praetorian himself: "Yes"

  • @13legomania
    @13legomania Рік тому +17

    Ok Pedro Cantor picking up the woman and her child is going in my top ten moments. Even in the Grim Darkness of the far future, there are nice moments.

  • @Mistheart101
    @Mistheart101 6 місяців тому +25

    I really do hope Tyberos gets an updated model with the new Terminator scale.
    Btw that piece of iconic fanart of him was done by Zhi Chen, shame to see how often it gets reposted without credit.

  • @alphariusomegon3965
    @alphariusomegon3965 11 місяців тому +8

    Man the Konrad theory is a new one to me. Man I wish this podcast was on Spotify

  • @felixedensor2392
    @felixedensor2392 Рік тому +18

    I need to see a Collab between you guys and Adeptus Ridiculous. That would be amazing

    • @Arangalord
      @Arangalord Рік тому +2

      Truly

    • @zarthes
      @zarthes Рік тому +3

      That or LoreCrimes, those guys spend tons of time doing their research to the point they've touched on things Bricky misses.

    • @triblow_9713
      @triblow_9713 11 місяців тому

      YES YES YES

  • @Edward-L
    @Edward-L 2 місяці тому +11

    Okay, I REALLY hope this catches your guys attention, because onto what night lords man was saying about his theory mutated tyberos being konrad curze implanted with the soul gem- I would like to add to that by shinning a light towards Horus, yes Horus, you see at some point in his life before he even met or knew of the emperor Horus was described as being....a normal human in fact verbatem, a normal child if I do exactly, feeble and genuinely unimportant seeming and most importantly he did not have any of Horus' personality, the pride, the leadership, the eye of a ruler but then later on it was a vision from the Emperor that showed him what he was WHO he was and he transforms literally TRANSFORMS into a full grown primearch no joke, and this here is the nail in the coffin alongside what was already mentioned, that IF tyberos' assumed transformation even could happen at all was in fact a concrete possibility and it genuinely has become my favorite Charcharadons theory, alongside the theory that exiled terran revengaurd alongside Sevatar prince of crows and Kharon the "coward" created the Charcharadons chapter.

  • @eeriesnow
    @eeriesnow Рік тому +16

    MA I'M ON TV

  • @VaultBoyWonder
    @VaultBoyWonder 11 місяців тому +5

    Space Wolves really told the Inquisition to come back with a warrant, and I love it

  • @loganswalk8621
    @loganswalk8621 Рік тому +8

    A personal favorite successor chapter is the Raptors of Raven Guard descent where the Ravens are stealthy they still prefer surprise melee attacks The Raptors prefer to snipe and their chapter culture has modern military style making them one of the most pragmatic and sensible chapters in a galaxy full of melee obsessed glory hounds.

  • @benthomas3355
    @benthomas3355 9 місяців тому +12

    There is another 2 theories about the Carccardons.
    1) That their chapter has chimeric Genesee from both night lords and Raven guard. The former were from loyalist elements of the Night Lords, and the later, from the most brutal members of the Raven Guard. The guys that were from terra and were exceptionally brutal.. but loyal.
    The second theory about Tyberos himself, is that he is actually a Thunder Warrior that survived the Astartes upgrade process. Think the rubricon for the thunder warriors. And since the Carccardons travel the void in stasis most of the time, he could easily have lived 10k plus years.

    • @sonicwingnut
      @sonicwingnut 7 місяців тому +5

      There's also that theory about Asterion Moloch - that he is a surviving thunder warrior and there's actually some evidence to support it. There was a surviving thunder warrior called Arik Taranis - He survived at least up to the siege of Terra and last we saw him not only obtained some geneseed from traitor marines but had appeared to have succeeded in fixing the flaws in Thunder Warrior DNA. Assuming he survived the siege it might make sense he later emerged with a proposal for the fledgeling Lords Of Terra and offered to give them their own personal Astartes chapter. The idea of the Minotaur itself and the term Moloch are all associated with the sacrifice of children, which of course echoes the Thunder Warriors' fate. Taranis didn't actually bear the Emperor any ill will for his actions though, as he recognised as they were the Thunder Warriors were doomed anyway. The other interesting thing is that while Taranis was an underground crime lord on Terra his sigil was very, very similar to the Minotaurs' chapter symbol. It would also explain why he gave such bad vibes to a Custodes as well as explaining how he had come across one of their guardian spears.

    • @nolanbaker2360
      @nolanbaker2360 2 місяці тому

      ​@@sonicwingnutnew headcanon

  • @magosofmars8410
    @magosofmars8410 11 місяців тому +6

    This needs a part 2 at some point there are so many amazing chapter to talk about

  • @itsbarbon9220
    @itsbarbon9220 Рік тому +9

    F in the chat for not putting Minotaurs kitbashes on the screen like he said he would but still BUSSIN episode gotta have Alex on again

  • @Gm-ce5kg
    @Gm-ce5kg 11 місяців тому +17

    i'd personally prefer tyberos to not be resurrected conrad, because its way funnier to just have a *guy* , and the guy is just a humoungous fellow like that ,and is too dummy thicc for terminator armor

  • @thesandvitchman9303
    @thesandvitchman9303 11 місяців тому +10

    My favorite theory for the minators is that they have a link to the thunder warriors, they have the same battle tactics and not to mention the brutality in combat and not to mention there huge. And the anchient armor astetic also fits them both well.

  • @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935
    @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 11 місяців тому +4

    Fun Fact, in the old lore the Black Templars where believed to number 30,000 Initiates (battle brothers).
    In current lore i believe the black templars don't count their neophytes as full marines, so i reckon these 6k+ BT Initiates and 6k+ Neophytes.

  • @Lucat27
    @Lucat27 Рік тому +9

    *THE RED WAKE*

  • @papaaeon7210
    @papaaeon7210 7 місяців тому +7

    I was surprised that the whole lore of the Forgotten One and the Void Glass wasn’t brought up by Red since that also kind of supports his theory on the Space Sharks.
    A Chapter I really like is the Iron Snakes. They are Greek Inspired, but far more Athenian then anything else. They are Ultramarines that don’t follow the Codex, and their Chapter is split up into 10 Man Squads that each have an Apothecary. It’s even common practice to send singular Marines out for solo ops if the need be. Their solo book Brothers of the Snake is one of Abnett’s best, and I assume they play a larger role in the rest of the Sabbat Worlds Crusade I haven’t read yet.

  • @thearmchairjacobite2765
    @thearmchairjacobite2765 11 місяців тому +4

    That kreigsman looks like a 17th century sweetish soldier! Its so cool

  • @Fan_of_the_hobby
    @Fan_of_the_hobby 6 місяців тому +9

    The contempors and box noughts can still be used as helbrutes… or just give the contmptor the primaris dread stuff

  • @dramsac17
    @dramsac17 7 місяців тому +12

    How sure are we that the Astral Knights aren't an Iron Warriors successor chapter? Seems kinda like something Iron Warriors would do.

  • @cytorakdemon
    @cytorakdemon 11 місяців тому +4

    A successor chapter that's steadily became my favorite enough for me to build and paint an army of them are the Iron Snakes.
    Superstitious, non Codex Compliant Ultramarine successors, that are just classic Greek themed Space Marines.

  • @giuseppecilluffo2033
    @giuseppecilluffo2033 2 місяці тому +9

    Yeah, the Celestial Lions learned that you can’t say crap about the inquisition the hard way

    • @steelbear2063
      @steelbear2063 2 місяці тому +3

      You can, but it depends on your prestige. Space Wolves were at war with the Inquisition and are still around, more so they tell them to get lost at every opportunity. And sometimes they do get lost in more ways than one

  • @greenelmo7678
    @greenelmo7678 11 місяців тому +4

    Man I really like the Konrad Curze/Tyberos theory

  • @strongcoffee2533
    @strongcoffee2533 Рік тому +3

    Casual content for painting!

  • @bobbybrenner3212
    @bobbybrenner3212 Рік тому +7

    im so happy to see some world eater representation

    • @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935
      @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 11 місяців тому

      The OG World Eaters (Emperors Hounds) are awsome to read about. Their still close quarters butchers but they didn't choose that style of combat for blood lust but reasoned tgat they are the toughest warriors in the galaxy that hold all the advantages, more so in hand ti hand combat so they went with it.

  • @greg_mca
    @greg_mca 11 місяців тому +4

    Lol my chosen chapter was the chapter that displaced the astral knights from their homeworld of obsidia (the sable swords chapter). The swords' first company captain just showed up and told the AK that the monastery had been transferred to them now as they didn't have enough marines to reconstitute the chapter, and any who stayed could choose to be incorporated into the sable swords. However he said that if they left and went off on a crusade and achieved great deeds they could petition their case and argue that their heroism demanded better treatment. About 30, led by a dreadnought, took up that offer and haven't yet returned

  • @adamm5166
    @adamm5166 Рік тому +4

    Im actually about to start my Carcharodon novels, I love the space sharks!
    I didnt know about the Konrad stuff! Holy shit thats awesome! I need to read the Badab War books!

  • @KillerOrca
    @KillerOrca Рік тому +3

    Nice to see so many collaba going on right now, its awesome

  • @crazymike7883
    @crazymike7883 29 днів тому +2

    Black Tenplars are my number 2 chapter because of those moments where they go "our duty is not to the Imperium but to the people of the Imperium" and don't get me wrong they are as bad ass and uncaring as some of the other chapters can be. But they also are suprisingly human.

  • @sovietstarfishproductions5019
    @sovietstarfishproductions5019 Рік тому +9

    i want to see a normal Guardsman next to Tyberos

    • @ryanlorenzo5003
      @ryanlorenzo5003 Рік тому +2

      Only way you're getting that lucky guy is in pieces.

    • @JammesJack-td6gv
      @JammesJack-td6gv 2 місяці тому

      Imagine a 3 year old bext to a adult

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Рік тому +4

    34:05 the loop hole is a two parter same with the Space Wolfs there’s mini chapters that answer to the high marshal aka hellbrect and every time there’s a new one the Infinite/Eternal crusade is launched Praise the God Emperor
    46:30 the space sharks also beat the night lords in combat but imho them being RavenGuard is bit better them saying fuck stealth time to kill

  • @roguecarrick816
    @roguecarrick816 Рік тому +6

    developed a blood angels successor with a chapter goal to GTA abaddons flagship.

    • @roguecarrick816
      @roguecarrick816 Рік тому +1

      The hawks sanguine are second founding , fleet based, and trace their lineage to a company of zones mortalis specialists, during the vengeful spirit assault they got dumped near the engine spaces as opposed to where they intended to be, (glued to their mobility inclined primarch) at some point for whatever reason during one of abaddons crusades a squad of their terminators ended up on the vengeful spirit, and encountered what might have been an echo of sanguinius or may have just been ten dudes tripping collectively on warp dust. On the off chance it was sanguinius, the chapter came to the reasonable conclusion that the only thing for it was to steal abbadons flagship.

    • @definitelynotanork9520
      @definitelynotanork9520 Рік тому

      Wouldn’t it be GTW? Grand theft warship?

    • @Captain_Bart_Peterson
      @Captain_Bart_Peterson 11 місяців тому +1

      @@definitelynotanork9520 Yes but Grant theft auto sounds funnier when talking about a warship.

  • @ouch2040
    @ouch2040 11 місяців тому +4

    Honestly the Kriegsman reminded me of a Swedish Carolean

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Рік тому +3

    Coolest gotta be Space Sharks and Crimson Fists black dragons but most powerful I’d say Black Templars and Exorcists (funniest I’d say Blood ravens) Honorable mention goes to Mortifactors and Flesh tearers

  • @dragonjaj
    @dragonjaj Рік тому +5

    what if Tiberous is the night lord promarch in disgise trying to redem him self after faking his death or just coming back from death

  • @mikeevans124
    @mikeevans124 Рік тому +7

    Also to lend credibility to the space sharks being night lords in the book the red tithe a demon attached to a night lord calls them long lost brothers.

    • @AtakusG
      @AtakusG Рік тому +1

      I'm like, 90% sure that what you're thinking of is when the chapter master of the ashen claws refered to a world eater as the brother of the reaper prime and captain of the 3rd company of Carcharodons, Bail Sharr

  • @knightesquire36
    @knightesquire36 Рік тому +3

    Top 10 collabs of all time

  • @Night_Haunter
    @Night_Haunter Рік тому +6

    Please do the collab with Live from the black libarary

  • @CyberGhost-323
    @CyberGhost-323 8 місяців тому +7

    Could it be that the Exorcists Chapter is either:
    1) A Grey Knight successor chapter on paper (classified by order of the Inquisition) disguised as an Imperial Fists successor chapter?
    OR
    2) Chimeric Gene-seed composed of Grey Knights and Imperial Fists?
    Your thoughts

    • @8ball279
      @8ball279 8 місяців тому +3

      My head cannon for the exorcists is they are from Magnus Gene-Seed. Explains the mysterious origins and psyker potential. Same for the Grey Knights. The Big E’s Seed Is too much of a slippery slope.

    • @CyberGhost-323
      @CyberGhost-323 8 місяців тому +3

      @@8ball279An interesting observation, then they'd be... cousins with the Blood Raven and Thousand Sons?

    • @gortis1104
      @gortis1104 4 місяці тому +1

      Wait why the fist?

    • @nolanbaker2360
      @nolanbaker2360 2 місяці тому

      ​@@gortis1104 that's the official parent legion

  • @thomasmixon6880
    @thomasmixon6880 Рік тому +4

    Did the room get a little emptier and a lot better?

  • @yopoxikeweapescai9066
    @yopoxikeweapescai9066 6 місяців тому +18

    LAMENTERS >>>>>>>>>>

  • @akuma6278
    @akuma6278 11 місяців тому +5

    Is Tyberus taller then Polux? Cuz I could swear that in-lore Guliiman was shocked by Polux because Polux was nearly as tall as Gulliman

    • @Nostroman_Praetor
      @Nostroman_Praetor 11 місяців тому +2

      Tyberos is indeed taller then Polux. He's such a mutant I don't think he made it past the scout company by being sneaky.
      The reason I suspect such is because even though Polux met Big G at eye level, Pollux still fit into MKIV armor even if it had to be modified a little.
      Tyberos meanwhile has custom fitted terminator armor that needed to be refit with dreadnought armor just so it fit him meaning he could not fit in a standard marine's warplate. Tyberos is probably taller then even some Primarchs.

    • @akuma6278
      @akuma6278 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Nostroman_Praetor I dunno because back then Space Marine Legions were massive having thousands if not tens of thousands of tech-marines and multiple forge worlds dedicated to just pumping out armor for said legions, so the variety of sizes back then might be more then modern 40k due to the even wider variety of marines in the HH, with the amount of space marines in the current setting thats less then legion in 30k and thus less variety of armors and armor sizes, girlyman is almost if not taller then a dreadnought while Tyberos is smaller then one, so to meet girlyman at almost eye level you have to be taller then Tyberos

  • @Colonel_Jurten
    @Colonel_Jurten 11 місяців тому +4

    Ey its ma boi

  • @simoncampoy4131
    @simoncampoy4131 2 місяці тому +2

    Holy shit I've never heard of tyberos being Conrad before.

  • @SeanCrosser
    @SeanCrosser 11 місяців тому +5

    I'll admit that I'm a Grey Knights fan so it could be envy, but I think The Exorcists being "Grey Knights but better" is stupid. Loyalist chapters like the Flame Falcons got immediately exterminated without any actual contact with daemons, and here's The Exorcists written to have Inquisitor-sanctioned one-night stands with demons and it's all fine "because they'll put those Mary Sues in their place"
    My brother in the Emperor, YOU put the Mary Sues up there.
    The Grey Knights were made to be a force of elite daemon-killers, deployed only when a demon-involved event will imminently go tits-up. So yeah they'll show up and do their all to stop that, because when they don't, entire worlds get turned to Demon Worlds. And no one ever mentions how those Mary Sue victories comes at the steep cost of many of the deployed Grey Knights. "Of course the Mary Sues chapter can have ONE MARINE defeat Angron" bruh they deployed 120 GKs, and lost like 100 of that number to just BANISH Angron.

    • @socialyawkwardandrew7673
      @socialyawkwardandrew7673 11 місяців тому +1

      Cope

    • @alphariusalpharius3921
      @alphariusalpharius3921 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah but what about a single grey knight beating a daemon primarch in the warp?

    • @Pirigo13
      @Pirigo13 10 місяців тому +2

      The Grey Knights were dealt a bad hand when it comes to likability due to Matt Ward, and the Grey Knights' role in the Months of Shame. Additionally, the Grey Knights kind of feel like an anti-everything chapter that happens to be deployed against daemons; The Exorcists feel more like specialized anti-daemon chapter, in that they aren't as powerful as generalists.
      I also can't understate how the Grey Knights' "No witnesses" policy in the Months of Shame made them look like grimdumb lapdogs of the Inquisition... it honestly ruined the Grey Knights for me. I think the bottom line is that the Grey Knights need some lore written by better writers, I guess.

    • @The.Orange.Wizard
      @The.Orange.Wizard 10 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@alphariusalpharius3921Yeah, it’s like an Ultramarine beating a C’tan shard with a sword and defending it by saying that shard killed 100 other marines, it just makes that one marine extra special.

  • @abyssalvoid4644
    @abyssalvoid4644 11 місяців тому +2

    Finally another head for the wall lol

  • @woodchuck94og
    @woodchuck94og 7 місяців тому +6

    The only named exorcist i know is Merrin Dragomir

    • @FackFaceMcAcehole
      @FackFaceMcAcehole 7 місяців тому

      The founding chapter master was Enoch Trismegistus, I forget the current, and the upcoming chapter master is Silas Alberec (who is as big as Tyberos).

    • @RogueSceptile
      @RogueSceptile Місяць тому

      Darrion Rauth is an exorcist and a member of Talon squad, a deathwatch kill team.

  • @blackdragonxtra
    @blackdragonxtra 10 місяців тому +3

    Wait, are the Exorcists actually successor chapter of the Word Bearers?

  • @nikoazure5235
    @nikoazure5235 11 місяців тому +2

    "let someone else carry you"

  • @NemesisMinis
    @NemesisMinis 10 місяців тому +3

    Wasn't typhus beaten then by GM Voldus

  • @edgieststalker8141
    @edgieststalker8141 Рік тому +2

    Yooooo this collab is so good

  • @ARKWOLF20000
    @ARKWOLF20000 Рік тому +3

    First?

  • @Mger47TheGamePegasus
    @Mger47TheGamePegasus Рік тому +6

    Will you ever have arch warhammer on?

    • @popsiclemoon
      @popsiclemoon Рік тому +5

      Most channels don't want to associate with a nazi.

    • @knightesquire36
      @knightesquire36 Рік тому +5

      ​@@popsiclemoonIf arch is the modern definition of a nazi, then the definition of that word must have changed

    • @theemperorschosen7607
      @theemperorschosen7607 Рік тому +3

      ​@@knightesquire36
      Just general racist then. His discord isn't what I'd call a lovely place.

    • @knightesquire36
      @knightesquire36 Рік тому

      ​@@theemperorschosen7607 fair nuff

    • @huelads740
      @huelads740 Рік тому +2

      @@popsiclemoon int 1 take ngl there chief.

  • @ryanexsus
    @ryanexsus 21 день тому

    Flesh Fuckin Tearers.