Remarkable Auto Safety Progress
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- The story of the incredible progress in auto safety performance in recent years. Includes footage from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's small overlap, updated side-impact, and updated moderate overlap crash tests.
Raw video courtesy of the IIHS and Honda. Editing by Crash Core. - Авто та транспорт
Surprised the Audi A4 wasn’t on this, 2012 vs 2017 is crazy
Surprised you mention Audi… they used to be one of the safest on the road. Definitely ahead of BMW or MB in comparable models. In extraneous crash situation’s, Audi used to be unbeaten!… guess the VAG has destroyed that.
@@lukeclifton4392late 90s and early 2000s audi was horrible
I have noticed some vehicles smoothly glancing off the area ahead of the door and some coming to a full stop instead but still doing well in the test. Since in real life we're not hitting that exact barrier at that exact angle, I have to think that the cars which do well without glancing gently off the barrier have put their structure through a more severe test - particularly reassuring given the many real-world frontal collision possibilities.
That’s what I was thinking, feels like the cars that stop, yet still maintain the structural integrity will be safer in a real life situation. If someone crashes into you at an oblique angle, you probably won’t be able to just glide off like the cars in this video do, just have to take the impact.
It’s a trade off of where to put the mass. Vehicles that glance off tend to have more structural elements near the front of the car so that they are engaged early. Whereas, vehicles that stop more abruptly but still do well have strong structural elements around occupants. Some manufacturers do both and these cars are probably the best equipped to handle a wide variety of real life scenarios.
So the vehicles that do deflect off of the crash structure are actually more safer for you as the frame of the vehicle is deflecting the stopping force instead of experiencing an incredible amount of force while coming to a complete stop.
Generally speaking, yes. The occupants typically experience lower crash forces with this design.
Fantastic video! Very helpful!!
Glad it was helpful!
It seems that generally speaking, German and Japanese manufacturers address issues fairly quickly, Jeep (Dodge/Stellantis), not so much.
This does not surprise me.
Thanks for the video! 👍
Agree. Legacy American car companies tend to perform the worse overall. My dad has a Cadillac Lyriq. There are no crash test results so I’m presuming it won’t perform well based on GM past track record.
but would be interesting if they does and offers the same level of protection to all markets where they export cars or just to the American market only,i would love to watch what if any best sold European brand put into the IIHS protocol test how would get or survive, Citroen, Peugeot, Skoda by example would be super interesting that the level of safety varies according with the car market where the brand is made
I don’t have any data on this, but if I were to hazard a guess, the customers of European and Japanese/Korean brands probably value safety higher than customers of the US legacy brands.
@@crashcore_cc Like that time Toyota covered up the fact that a bushing in their accelerator pedal assemblies had a tendency to wear and become stuck in a depressed position, leading to unintended acceleration. And since Toyota was cheap and didn't have a brake override feature in their vehicles, the brakes would perform poorly due to lack of vacuum assist. The result was countless deaths. Toyota panicked and attempted to blame the floor mats for unintended acceleration and did their famous zip tie floor mat "recall". Later they were fined over a billion dollars by the US government for their intentional deception and coverup of deadly defects.
Yes, I remember this. It was huge scandal and tarnished the Toyota brand for several years after.
Very detailed video.
Thank you!
@@crashcore_cc No problem!
Kia Forte 2014 to 2015 they go from alloy to steel wheels, which reduces stress on the structure massively, you should have tested like for like.
Back in the early 2000s Holden discovered the difference between big alloys and small steel wheels, would have thought you people would have been onto it by now.
The 2017 Suzuki Vitara had poor ratings on rollover test but they solved that issue by making the roof stronger and moving the engine slightly lower to lower the center of gravity. Then by the year of 2019 they got a good rating.
Great video quality 🎞️
Thanks!
Small overlap test is an extreme situation, I drive an 07 Toyota Camry which basically is the same structure as an ES 350 of those years, they tested an ES 350 in the small overlap test and it did absolutely horrible, but performed extremely well in the moderate overlap test , I’m not worried since the chances of a small overlap crash are only 10% vs 90% more chances of a moderate overlap crash
But extreme situation that can happens otherwise the iihs would just skip that test
Failed passenger small overlap test with quick fix proves the manufacturers that really don't give a damn about safety. They're too cheap to make the car safe, they just build it to pass today's test, then deal with the other side only when they look bad tomorrow.
It's a good indicator for which brands to avoid!
I’d like to see one for midsize suvs. Specifically the explorer and similar vehicles.
I wonder why the 2012 Camry isn’t on here considering that Toyota changed the structure for 2014.5 models.
why the heck do you expect them to include every car
Me in in my 90s car : 💀
Video suggestion: Cars who’s safety got worse over time (example: Nissan Quest 3rd gen to 4th gen)
Edit: i just realized that the 3rd and 4th gen were on different tests, mb. Disregard that example
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll see if there are enough examples of this to fill a video.
no, the 3rd gen 04-10 did not get small overlapped, and would be just as bad as the 4th gen
@@gabesmath105 right, i forgot that mb
@@crashcore_cc i realized they were on different tests so the quest doesnt matter
@@crashcore_cc The first gen (1993-1998) and the second gen (1999-2002) is a better example. These 2 models were tested in the moderate overlap test, where the first gen Quest got a marginal rating, and the second gen a poor rating.
Nostalgia. They don't make em like they used to.
The new Hyundai Santa Fe earned a Marginal in the updated moderate overlap test
Another disappointing performance in a redesigned product! It might be a couple more years until we start seeing new products that start consistently doing well.
First to comment! Love your channel keep up the great work
Thank you!
Wow! Never thought Mercedes would do badly
I remember how shocking it was to see these results when they first came out. The introduction of the small overlap test was a sobering moment for the safety perception of many brands!
too bad that the euroncap already don't want to do the small overlap test
My car needs some big safety improvements. Sure, it's better than a lot of older cars, like 2010 and older. But still isn't great, it's a 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage.
HR-V vs. CrossTrek = Subaru in real world safety. While a crash test is interesting and one can learn something from it, I suppose, how much insurance companies had to pay-out for injuries, and the data from death rates in cars, is really telling. Subaru does well, time after time. Look up the Korean makes and then compare it to test scores. I live in the real world. The Hyundai Santa Fe might be one of the few from Korea with both test scores which are good and the records of real-world data.
I think both types of data can be useful. The difficulty with interpreting real-world crash data is that it is largely driven by the psychological profiles of the drivers. The average Subaru owner may drive more cautiously than drivers from other brands.
@@crashcore_cc Could be to some extent that some makes and models attract crazy drivers, like Dodge with Hemi's. Korean cars range from mediocre to terrible, over the years in Death Rates and Injury Claims of Insurers.
i know it will be challenging for manufactures but shouldn't they try focusing on higher speed crashes too instead of just say 35-40mph?
It looks like the IIHS' strategy will be to evaluate accident avoidance tech at higher speeds (they just increased their test speed of AEB systems to 43 mph). These systems could get better and better at reducing vehicle speed right before a collision to survivable levels.
@@crashcore_cc ahh, makes sense
No fire, everything is OK
But “thEy dOn’T mAkE tHem lIke theY uSeD tO”
What about on the side right side. I hear GM was caught cheating 💀👀
I made a recent video that talks about this specific case: ua-cam.com/video/RmTyVQPr4_g/v-deo.html
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this is nonsense. THey are just reworking things to pass the tests. Better to look at deaths on the road and even then you must compensate for demographics
Removing what? Do tell me.
@@ywtv6 not removing, strengthening one side of the car to pass etc
You do know the test gets more difficult every couple of years right? 😂
One side impact is critical to determine overall structural safety.
@@nandan0022 but they are faking it to pass, when the passenger's side is tested, the results are horrible. Also IIHS doesn't test for rear seat whiplash so the rear seats are more dangerous than the front a lot of the time
New cars are dumb investments
No doubt it’s a big expense. However, when someone gets to a certain level of financial means, it’s arguably reckless for them not to put their family in a modern, safe vehicle. All the money in the world can’t bring back a loved one.
What about mediums cars?
@@TheRealAli_Real I don't know what the sweet spot is in terms of depreciation but I sold my '22 and got a 2012, I know I took a big hit on selling my 2 year old car but I got my priorities somewhere else now. I would like to buy my own home one day and I can't justify losing like 30k in a few years time, the 12 year old car is a little less efficiënt and maybe a tad less reliable but will get you from A to B as well