No competition, the 2018 sounds way better even with the restrictions it has compared to the 2016 pre face-lift versions. Slap a stage 1 remap on the 2018 and it'll give the new model a run for its money at a fraction of the cost. The soft limiter, lack of sound and the sin of fake exhaust tips means a no no for me, when I trade in my 2016 I'd rather get a 2018 model than the new one.
I believe the reason the tailpipes are not connected to the exhaust are to prevent damaging the exhaust in certain rear end accidents, many car manufacturers are doing it now and when you see the price of a rear exhaust anything that saves it is a good thing
Loved this video, after 8 years owning and loving my evo x the rs3 has gotten my complete attention . Really not sure between older model or brand new , at moment brand new prices are going sky high so I'm lucky enough to be in position to play waiting game . The more I research rs3 the more I know I want one
Thanks! The new car is faster and has better tech. The older one sounds better. For me I want the new one but then again I do have the older one! But whichever you choose it is a great car that I love.
@@TechInTheCar Excellent video by the way and a detailed information on new RS3 . Also do you think if someone doesn’t know how to drift it will cause accidents. Thanks again
no comparison really when it has a soft limiter however the new RS3's performance is spectacular. I just traded in my Golf R MK8 which I only did 5000 miles in for the new RS3 before the price hike as the Golf also had a price increase which benefited me. I am not too happy about the limited options given in the UK so just went straight for the Vorsprung edition as you get more for your buck. I'm not too sold on the idea that we get less due too the chip shortage I reckon it was down to Brexit and new legislation making it more expensive to have these things added but that is just a theory. I enjoy watching your channel especially regarding the new RS3 they're very informative. Maybe a comparison video on the A45s and RS3 would be good considering they are rivals.
Yes I agree with you; from driving it in my other video I know it is very fast and definitely faster than my current previous generation car. I will see what I can do as far as AMG and a comparison! Thanks.
@@TechInTheCar agreed new one is marginally faster in a straight and a bit faster in the twisties, but I’m keeping my 2017 rs3 saloon as it sounds way better and the new one was not worth the extra £25k. Didn’t like the colours and the lack of interior features that uk isn’t getting is a joke.
Great review. Thanks I have an identical 2017 saloon to yours, you’ve helped reaffirm my decision to not get the new one. Some bits are good, but the bland interior, rubbish sound, rubbish exhaust tips, round steering and crazy price are killers for me.
Interestingly the UK got shafted with the interior options which is shocking to me. You 100% need that option. The no option for the flat bottom steering wheel sucks also. Interestingly here in Australia there is no Vorsprung option however more options than the UK. I find it annoying that they slapped the ceramic brakes into the Dynamic option.
I agree and it would be better if here in the U.K. we could just pick the options however the car is cheaper than in the EU so maybe that’s not bad! I’d like the flat wheel too but it should be possible to replace it.
I have been anxiously waiting for this 8V vs 8Y comparison! Great review, much appreciated. The 8Y seems better in all areas except for the exhaust sound... I think you will miss it when you pick up yours in coming weeks ;-)
Great 👍 vid again,, I quite like the fact that the new Rs3 isn’t all load cracks and pops., kinda goes under the radar a bit when it’s on the road but you just know that you can blow away virtually any car on the road if you wanted, it’s got the road presence with it’s wide arches which is what I’d rather have than a noisy exhaust, you can always sort the exhaust if you want later on but it’s not a priority for me, I’ll get spaces on my car first to bring the wheels out of the arches a bit. I’ve got build slot week 49 so my boy should be getting built this coming week fingers crossed 🤞
8v looks dated next to the new car, inside and out - but in the right spec of course, as these 'base' RS3's look a bit crap with all the fake ali plastics... the carbon black cars, with all black trims, extra aero and all black wheels, are due soon to customers - then we're talking.
The price of both RS3 variants went up this week which is really annoying and they still don't have the 360 camera or electric seats. So I'm waiting for a bit.
Audi got a lot of complaints on the 8V brakes (the older gen was even worse). Apparently even the carbons weren't great. Based on the first reviews of the 8Y, the brakes seem to have improved which is good news.
Thank you for the great comparison video! Obviously the 2018 sounds better, but i would add an AWE exhaust anyway. My question would be, do you think its worth saving for the 2022 (or now 2023) version, or get the 2018? Cost wise, the 2018 version goes for about 52k in Germany, compared to 70k for the 2022.
I own the 18 but looking to upgrade to the 22 .But the sound 18 all day everyday . Do you know if the 22 has or had rear cats ? The first mod I did was get rid of the rear cats (mid pipe delete) on the 18 which made a huge sound difference. Thanks great video as always
yea thanks, Mabey when you go back to the dealership you can ask or take a look to see if they are there a because it sounds so muffled . I think If the rear cats are removed on the 22 it will sound just as good
Engine packaging is slightly different between the 2 models, the new RS3 seems to have the engine a bit further placed forward as there is more room between it and the firewall and less room between it and the radiator. People working on mods for the new RS3 have highlighted this
I am not sure that is really a change. I know your talking about the Evolve video. But I think that minor change is down to the redesigned front of the car and doesn’t make any differences to performance. The ECU changes do however.
@@TechInTheCar I don’t know enough about how much change there is there and am curious if the engine is sitting further in front of front axle than old model and if so maybe it’s been done for handling improvements, not sure but if you get a chance to compare them again perhaps you can see if it’s noticeable or not. From what I’ve seen though there doesn’t look to be much change otherwise regarding packaging
The tighter fitting Tailpipes on the 8Y do look a lot better, neater than the 8V tailpipes, R8's are like that with Tailpipe not connected to rear exhaust box
As a pre OPF 8V owner, the exhaust on that generation sounds better by a mile although the styling of 8Y trumps the older generation easily. The one big let down in the 8Y is the embarrassing gear stick.
@@ad_2211 That's Audi saying we couldn't be bothered. Same with the flat bottom steering wheel. Audi RSQ3 has them. But now it's not available again in certain regions.
Nice video I wonder what else Audi can remove from our orders? Audi UK have suggested I change my spec to a Carbon after I complained about the lack of build date! The 8V sounds better, the exhaust tips will be easier to clean but to be honest I preferred the old exhaust.
I want the HUD so this makes me want to keep the Vorsprung however there is only the HUD, Memory Seats and Electric Bootlid left between the different trims!
I went Carbon to get the all black wheels and flat bottom steering wheel. Added C&S pack and the RS dynamic pack. Couldn't care less about leccy seats, HUD other trinkets you don't need. Coloured callipers is my only gripe, but I already have OEM Audi ceramic stickers and a professional wheel guy lined up to paint my callipers - he does a lot of high ened cars, so no worries on quality. Vorsprung is a bit of a con IMO. You also get additional roof spoiler and carbon on the mirrors and skirts. So looks wise, the carbon takes it. The best thing? Lead times. I placed my order in October and now have a 2022 build date, so should see my RS3 sportback by March. A lot of people who've ordered Vorsprung have no clue when there's is coming.
Excellent video as usual and great comparison details, As a 8v RS3 owner with the sports exhaust which is fantastic and eagerly awaiting my new 8Y Rs3 in march2022, can anyone recommend where to get the soft limiter and/or the off removed
Glad you enjoyed it! I am not really sure changing the exhaust will really make much difference; it is the ECU and the soft limiter. I think we need to wait for the tuners to get their hands into it and make those changes.
8v sounds better, dislike the soft limiters Audi fit, let’s hope the 8Y’s do get louder as the miles increase but I’m sure most will stage 1 tuned or exhausts changed. Thx for the comparison, I hope the 8y rides better too
It does ride better as I said immediately in my drive video (if you haven’t seen it check it out!). It will get louder I am sure but that soft limiter is the issue with the ECU. We have to wait for development on that!
The biggest selling point of the RS3 is it's sound. The 2018 sounds a lot better, the newer will drive better and I'm sure you can spend some money to make it sound better and if you do that Audi won't take to kind to it and warranty claims will be a slippery slope.
@@TechInTheCar That's what I'm saying. It would be the same as the 8v opf you can bring the sound back by having the opf removed. But that would then mean an ecu tune as well but that'll be the warranty out of the window.
I think 18s will look too small but I’m sure you could sell the 19s and pick up some 18s if you wanted to avoid the cost of two sets. I have a feeling these wheels will be very much in demand with people wanting them.
@@TechInTheCar True, they might look small. I'll have to watch your vid see how the wheel openings compare across generations. Scrolling thru Audizine 41 page 8V wheel fitment guide and 255/35 R look chonky enough to pull it off. Going to 7.4kg(!!) Wedsport TC105X in 18x8.5 would probably shave 4.5 kilos per corner which would be huge. Had 235/35 R19s on my 2018 Golf R, just not the best ride. Going to 18s let me drop 2.7 kilos per corner in wheel weight, and the 245/40 R18 filled the wheel openings decently, and dramatically improved comfort while retaining handling.
Unless the U.K. passes laws that are different from the E.U then the cars will be exactly the same. And that won’t happen as the U.K. Government wants the same as the E.U in terms of the environment and emissions.
It didn’t bother me. It makes it easier to change gear. You can actually buy third party replacements from China if you prefer an actual gear stick like on the 8V. Even possible to get them in alcantara.
In terms of it just being a flick to change gear which makes it faster. Does it look as good? no it doesn't, but if you want a different look there are options as I said.
older one sounds better and its actually not even remotely close... hopefully this new one gets an exhaust upgrade option that fixes it like the current generation did.
I think the ECU is the thing limiting this as changing the exhaust but still having the limiter and other restrictions might make it deeper but that’s all.
Man it sounds like the last Gen has an exhaust set up on it. I’m sure that’s nothing a resonator delete couldn’t fix on the new one. Also, talked about the interior and totally glossed over the new wonky shifter
The 2018 is the stock exhaust. The new shifter is a bit of a let down but mainly because it isn’t any different from the other “lesser” models. It doesn’t say RS or have any alcantara or anything else. The fact it’s small and looks dinky isn’t really a big deal as the car is automatic.
@@TechInTheCar I’m considering selling my 2019 Performance pack mustang gt for one of these when they release here in the states, but it seems like they are kind of cutting features rather than them and charging more money for it. So I’m a bit torn
It is true about loosing features however it seems to mainly be the UK that is having this issue - lets see what happens when it is able to order in the USA as it may have all the stuff we want here and can’t get!
I sold my golf r this summer in preparation for the rs3 2022 release but I think we’re waiting awhile across the pond. No information yet when we’ll get it. 8v definitely sounds better
Even with demo cars here in the UK there won't be any customer ordered cars until Easter I expect (maybe a couple will slip in here and there) but despite no date for you guys it doesn't mean you will be waiting any longer than most of us in the UK!
@@TechInTheCar depending on the model year of your 8V, The Facelift model came with either the DAZA engine (no OPF, 2017/2018) or DNWA (OPF fitted, 2019+). The 8Y model has the engine with the OPF fitted so takes away a lot of the noise and character of the engine.
@@TechInTheCar The 8V just sounds much more aggressive, more of a growl. The new car does look better but a bit disappointing with the sound. The price is a bit tough on the new car.
Is the wireless charging definitely not coming for later models? I've heard this twice now, but the dealer my Vorsprung is on order with has only been able to confirm the 360° camera being dropped
@@TechInTheCar how bizarre... That's not the information that I've been given. I shall look deeper. Not sure what the point of wireless Android Auto is if I've got to keep it plugged in to charge. I know it's an amazing car, but I'm feeling more and more like my order was a mistake
@@TechInTheCar do you know if it at least has the other functionality and boosts the phone signal like the Mk3? I have a SIM in mine to provide an internal WiFi network, too
No wireless charging or phone box to boost signal unless you have a Launch Edition. It was never in the spec. Check the configurator print out if you want to see for yourself.
@@TechInTheCar thanks. It's just a bit crap when you need to get this info from a UA-cam channel instead of the actual Audi dealer. I need to dig that order form out. Thanks for being brilliant
I think it is very likely that they will add options back in based on demand once the backlog has been filled. But I wouldn’t wait for that as it’s not a guarantee.
The OPF is like castrating your prized bull in the herd. It's not an RS once it's OPF'd. Nothing will make that OPF car sound better, except de-OPF'ing it!
Have you driven/owned an Audi RS with OPF? Thought not. I have, both an 8Y RS3 and the TTRS. As you put miles on them, they start to sound better and it's only at a standstill or at low revs where the noise is subdued, once you get going, they still sound pretty darn good. Pops and bangs? For the kids and boy racers. Not wanted and very happy they are no more. Having driven the new RS3, it's not too loud and sounds just fine to me.
@@luciussander8217 Piss off, wanker! I own a OPF 2020 8V and it sounded like complete shit. Even with a valve controller, it was only half decent. Who gives a shit about pops and bangs? It's about the car sounding like an RS! I wasn't into waking the neighbours or a "look at me" screamer. Once I de-OPF'd the car with a catted Unitronic DP, it sounds as it should. aggressive, deep and growling! None of this overloud non-catted bullshit with tinny raspy tones. If you don't want volume and tone in your RS, go to an S3. The RS is a performance car, and the biggest part of its appeal is the unique 12453 sound. Turn off the soundaktor pumping into your cabin from the speakers and then tell me what you hear from your OPF'd car.....close to nothing.
@@luciussander8217 The pops and bangs on a car like the RS3 are hallmarks of its performance, they're not the same as the forced pops and bangs on some 18 year old kids fiesta.
There's nothing wrong with the interior and it's a big improvement over the previous car, especially the stupid screen that surfaced from the dash and now that old car, just looks dated. I owned a 19 plate RS3 BTW. Sound wise, these are new RS3's, they get way more vocal with a few miles on the clock and once rolling, sound great. LOL and remap any car and it's quicker, so bit of a dumb remark. I suspect someone can't afford the new one...
The interior is OK. I sat in the new RS3 last week - I didn't feel like I was sitting in a Ford or God forbid a Fiat or Renault. It's nice and isn't cheap at all. The tech is excellent and whilst there's no option to add the coloured stitching on the seats, at least you can add a bit of glam with the ambient lighting. Then go sit in a new Golf R - straight away you'd rather be in the Audi. The old RS3, which I had, I hated that silly screen that popped up from the dash and as someone else has pointed out, the 8Y is mega data inside compared with the latest Audis...
@@luciussander8217 come on mate the interior is bland! black on black on black!! i hate that touch screen only option! bmw i-drive is so much better! iv just got rid of 21 plate rs q3 sportback with same setup! black only option calipers unless going the grey carbon! no red option is mad! These are the reasons im not jumping into the new rs3 and have put deposit on mercedes cla 45s amg!
Speed is a sensation and that new car sounds limp. Interior is not as nice although tech is good. That new car is expensive but cheap in my opinion. Cannot see Audi getting my money. I suspect I'll find a 68plate TTrs in Ara Blue. The new colour pallet is terrible too.
I agree about colours; and sound but the new car is faster and more fun and has better technology in it. For some people the sound is all that matters so it just depends on what you want in a car.
@@knight2425 Do you have a reference to an official statement from Audi? i'd be very surprised. I've seen the car in real at an exhibition and checked that. There was no opening behind the wheel.
@@andyjo8925 I’ve seen a couple of release videos from Audi, one was about aero and it highlighted the airflow through that vent and down the side, the other was an Audi rep discussing the car and he made mention of the airflow through the vent to help brake cooling. I haven’t seen the car in person yet but have seen videos where people reviewing it had said it was real and other videos where people had said it was fake so not sure 100% whether it’s real or not but I’m tending to think it’s real if Audi say it is
The exhaust tips are BAD, maybe more sensible but it looks crap, I agree about red calipers, much nicer, god knows why you can’t option them, bloody stupid, your cars exhaust is obviously better, regulations 🙈 the silver wing mirrors are the signature for a S3/RS3, going black is ugly and ridiculous, your car with the silver accents looks much nicer than 8Y, I hate black this black that, stealth 🤣🤣 I don’t like your pop up television screen that sits awkwardly on the dash, much nicer in 8Y, yes the ambient lighting pack is superb, I have it 😄 blimey I have wireless charging 😜 great review 👍
I agree with everything your saying. Of course the standard RS3 gets the silver mirrors but I don’t think it looks as good as the blacked out versions. Maybe swapping the mirror caps is another change I will make. Thanks!
By a country mile. For tuning and performance, the 8V every day of the week. If your buying a car to remain stock, the 2022 is definitely a good choice. I wouldn’t part with my 18 FL. 10 sec daily driver with only FMIC DP, Intake and E85. 355 awkw and 10.7’s as simple as that. Drives OEM, my wife drives it without ANY problem in comfort mode to work and to the shops. 8Y looks stunning, but I’ve never purchased a car based on looks, always power and tuning ability. Have an Iroz Haldex controller so I can drift if I want and send more power to the rears and it handles big power increases. Each to their own as we all have different plans for our cars.
@@TechInTheCar nope. The amount of DNWA engines that have gone bang after tuning is huge. Why do you think IROZ and co. tune DAZA engines much further than DNWA? Cams, compression ratio and pistons are different. This has been confirmed by numerous sources including Audi employees directly related to performance and RS derivatives. My tuner has also confirmed and I’ve personally seen 4 x blown DNWA engines in 6 months, all with relatively basic tunes. My tuner knows his stuff, and has been at the forefront of tuning RS3’s for years. Hope you don’t find out the hard way like others have dude, but you are in for a rude shock if you think the engines are identical apart from OPF. Take from that what you will. 👍
That is interesting to know; thanks for updating me. I am not personally interested in tuning my car. If I want a faster car I will spend the money to buy one. I love the RS3 because for me it is the perfect middle ground of performance and size and features.
Rubbish. Have you driven one? I have, you clearly haven't. All new cars with OPF are quieter at rest or slower speeds - once rolling they sound just fine. Pops and bangs? Good riddance. Those are for boy racers or knob lords.
@@coops111s yup, idiot comment. No clue about the car or engines heritage clearly. Because that's the only reason someone would say something as dumb as that.
Which sounds better? If your after an Audi reach out to Marshall Coulsdon Audi who loaned me the car!
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the price has already gone up by 6% ……. Ouch
I mentioned the price increase but I filmed this last week so as you said it has happened now!
2018 sounds way better,even louder in comfort than 2022 in dynamic
Rs3 8v 💪🏻💪🏻
The 2018 sounds way more visceral
No competition, the 2018 sounds way better even with the restrictions it has compared to the 2016 pre face-lift versions. Slap a stage 1 remap on the 2018 and it'll give the new model a run for its money at a fraction of the cost. The soft limiter, lack of sound and the sin of fake exhaust tips means a no no for me, when I trade in my 2016 I'd rather get a 2018 model than the new one.
I'm driving the 2018 FL full spec , not gonna change it for this quiet one
The official time is 3.8 seconds 0-60. It can do it in 3.1 in reality!
@Tech In The Car NEW RS3 test is 0-60 is 3.4 secs not 3.1 as you’ve said
New car is a much better driver's car big deal about the sound c'mon!😂
@@germanengineering204 A lot of people fell in love with the RS3 because of the sound the 5 cylinder makes.
I believe the reason the tailpipes are not connected to the exhaust are to prevent damaging the exhaust in certain rear end accidents, many car manufacturers are doing it now and when you see the price of a rear exhaust anything that saves it is a good thing
I agree. I haven’t had any accidents myself but on the current generation there is definitely wear and tear on the exhausts. This should stop that.
Loved this video, after 8 years owning and loving my evo x the rs3 has gotten my complete attention . Really not sure between older model or brand new , at moment brand new prices are going sky high so I'm lucky enough to be in position to play waiting game . The more I research rs3 the more I know I want one
Thanks! The new car is faster and has better tech. The older one sounds better. For me I want the new one but then again I do have the older one! But whichever you choose it is a great car that I love.
@@TechInTheCar Excellent video by the way and a detailed information on new RS3 . Also do you think if someone doesn’t know how to drift it will cause accidents. Thanks again
no comparison really when it has a soft limiter however the new RS3's performance is spectacular. I just traded in my Golf R MK8 which I only did 5000 miles in for the new RS3 before the price hike as the Golf also had a price increase which benefited me. I am not too happy about the limited options given in the UK so just went straight for the Vorsprung edition as you get more for your buck. I'm not too sold on the idea that we get less due too the chip shortage I reckon it was down to Brexit and new legislation making it more expensive to have these things added but that is just a theory. I enjoy watching your channel especially regarding the new RS3 they're very informative. Maybe a comparison video on the A45s and RS3 would be good considering they are rivals.
Yes I agree with you; from driving it in my other video I know it is very fast and definitely faster than my current previous generation car. I will see what I can do as far as AMG and a comparison! Thanks.
But one of the main reasons you buy an rs3 for the 5 cylinder sound. The new one is disappointing.
@@TechInTheCar agreed new one is marginally faster in a straight and a bit faster in the twisties, but I’m keeping my 2017 rs3 saloon as it sounds way better and the new one was not worth the extra £25k. Didn’t like the colours and the lack of interior features that uk isn’t getting is a joke.
@@stephenpeacock2627Exhaust upgrade is all that is needed!!
Great review. Thanks I have an identical 2017 saloon to yours, you’ve helped reaffirm my decision to not get the new one. Some bits are good, but the bland interior, rubbish sound, rubbish exhaust tips, round steering and crazy price are killers for me.
Thanks! I love the new tech so for me it is a better deal; saves money and I get a more modern car but I can understand your position totally.
Interestingly the UK got shafted with the interior options which is shocking to me. You 100% need that option. The no option for the flat bottom steering wheel sucks also. Interestingly here in Australia there is no Vorsprung option however more options than the UK. I find it annoying that they slapped the ceramic brakes into the Dynamic option.
I agree and it would be better if here in the U.K. we could just pick the options however the car is cheaper than in the EU so maybe that’s not bad! I’d like the flat wheel too but it should be possible to replace it.
@@TechInTheCar I believe many will replace it, as it's a tad too big!
I have been anxiously waiting for this 8V vs 8Y comparison! Great review, much appreciated. The 8Y seems better in all areas except for the exhaust sound... I think you will miss it when you pick up yours in coming weeks ;-)
Glad it was helpful! We will see when it comes...
better in all areas? lol...
Great 👍 vid again,, I quite like the fact that the new Rs3 isn’t all load cracks and pops., kinda goes under the radar a bit when it’s on the road but you just know that you can blow away virtually any car on the road if you wanted, it’s got the road presence with it’s wide arches which is what I’d rather have than a noisy exhaust, you can always sort the exhaust if you want later on but it’s not a priority for me, I’ll get spaces on my car first to bring the wheels out of the arches a bit. I’ve got build slot week 49 so my boy should be getting built this coming week fingers crossed 🤞
I do think the wheels look better. Better alloy design and they just look more sporty.
Absolutely insane sound from Audi RS3 2018.... very bad for the 2022 one
Styling of the 8V, but performance of the 8Y for me!
8v looks dated next to the new car, inside and out - but in the right spec of course, as these 'base' RS3's look a bit crap with all the fake ali plastics... the carbon black cars, with all black trims, extra aero and all black wheels, are due soon to customers - then we're talking.
The price of both RS3 variants went up this week which is really annoying and they still don't have the 360 camera or electric seats. So I'm waiting for a bit.
The only thing about waiting is that we don’t know if Audi will suspend orders like they have done this week again and for how long.
@@TechInTheCar At no point have they suspended orders for the RS3 in the UK. Fake news.
We're all waiting for the American version w/o OPF filter and no restrictions on sound/ pops/ bangs.
I don't know if the USA version will be without the OPF as Audi would find production much easier to keep every car the same. We will see...
Have a new RS3 on order the rear dif is what pushed me to get a new one even over a new Cayman
Great seeing them side by side. Btw the 8Y has different brakes - 6 pots
I edited that bit out as I made a mistake - it will update the video shortly! Thanks for pointing it out!
Audi got a lot of complaints on the 8V brakes (the older gen was even worse). Apparently even the carbons weren't great. Based on the first reviews of the 8Y, the brakes seem to have improved which is good news.
The 8v has 8 pots
@@brun747 whoops I meant 8Y
@@GTI_CHHA yeah I hear these are better - will find out soon I hope!
Thank you for the great comparison video! Obviously the 2018 sounds better, but i would add an AWE exhaust anyway.
My question would be, do you think its worth saving for the 2022 (or now 2023) version, or get the 2018? Cost wise, the 2018 version goes for about 52k in Germany, compared to 70k for the 2022.
The new version is better - watch my other videos on the car and I say that, but it is quieter as you can hear.
what sort of a stupid question is that? even a 2018 in comfort mode sounds nicer than the 2022 in dynamic
I own the 18 but looking to upgrade to the 22 .But the sound 18 all day everyday . Do you know if the 22 has or had rear cats ? The first mod I did was get rid of the rear cats (mid pipe delete) on the 18 which made a huge sound difference. Thanks great video as always
I would imagine it does as the EU regulations are there to reduce emissions and noise. Thanks!
yea thanks, Mabey when you go back to the dealership you can ask or take a look to see if they are there a because it sounds so muffled . I think If the rear cats are removed on the 22 it will sound just as good
Engine packaging is slightly different between the 2 models, the new RS3 seems to have the engine a bit further placed forward as there is more room between it and the firewall and less room between it and the radiator. People working on mods for the new RS3 have highlighted this
I am not sure that is really a change. I know your talking about the Evolve video. But I think that minor change is down to the redesigned front of the car and doesn’t make any differences to performance. The ECU changes do however.
@@TechInTheCar I don’t know enough about how much change there is there and am curious if the engine is sitting further in front of front axle than old model and if so maybe it’s been done for handling improvements, not sure but if you get a chance to compare them again perhaps you can see if it’s noticeable or not. From what I’ve seen though there doesn’t look to be much change otherwise regarding packaging
I will look but I think this is literally just down to the new front design.
Old 2017 onwards does have soft limiters btw!
I wish Audi kept that Quattro badge on the front. It looks cool.
It is weird as I forget it is on the front of the car!
The tighter fitting Tailpipes on the 8Y do look a lot better, neater than the 8V tailpipes, R8's are like that with Tailpipe not connected to rear exhaust box
Yes! Good point. And I think they will last longer as I said.
As a pre OPF 8V owner, the exhaust on that generation sounds better by a mile although the styling of 8Y trumps the older generation easily. The one big let down in the 8Y is the embarrassing gear stick.
Yes, it was a bit strange using it the first time. And it could at least be covered in alcantara or leather and say RS but it is just plain.
@@TechInTheCar so weird that the latest RSQ3 has a proper one and they put a dinky one in the more driver oriented RS3🙄
@@ad_2211 That's Audi saying we couldn't be bothered. Same with the flat bottom steering wheel. Audi RSQ3 has them. But now it's not available again in certain regions.
Nice video I wonder what else Audi can remove from our orders? Audi UK have suggested I change my spec to a Carbon after I complained about the lack of build date! The 8V sounds better, the exhaust tips will be easier to clean but to be honest I preferred the old exhaust.
I want the HUD so this makes me want to keep the Vorsprung however there is only the HUD, Memory Seats and Electric Bootlid left between the different trims!
I went Carbon to get the all black wheels and flat bottom steering wheel. Added C&S pack and the RS dynamic pack. Couldn't care less about leccy seats, HUD other trinkets you don't need. Coloured callipers is my only gripe, but I already have OEM Audi ceramic stickers and a professional wheel guy lined up to paint my callipers - he does a lot of high ened cars, so no worries on quality. Vorsprung is a bit of a con IMO. You also get additional roof spoiler and carbon on the mirrors and skirts. So looks wise, the carbon takes it. The best thing? Lead times. I placed my order in October and now have a 2022 build date, so should see my RS3 sportback by March. A lot of people who've ordered Vorsprung have no clue when there's is coming.
I agree the wheels are 🔥🔥
They are some sexy wheels!
Excellent video as usual and great comparison details, As a 8v RS3 owner with the sports exhaust which is fantastic and eagerly awaiting my new 8Y Rs3 in march2022, can anyone recommend where to get the soft limiter and/or the off removed
Glad you enjoyed it! I am not really sure changing the exhaust will really make much difference; it is the ECU and the soft limiter. I think we need to wait for the tuners to get their hands into it and make those changes.
@@TechInTheCar ok thanks 🙏
performance mode song is like 2018 confort mode LMAO
8v sounds better, dislike the soft limiters Audi fit, let’s hope the 8Y’s do get louder as the miles increase but I’m sure most will stage 1 tuned or exhausts changed. Thx for the comparison, I hope the 8y rides better too
It does ride better as I said immediately in my drive video (if you haven’t seen it check it out!). It will get louder I am sure but that soft limiter is the issue with the ECU. We have to wait for development on that!
The biggest selling point of the RS3 is it's sound. The 2018 sounds a lot better, the newer will drive better and I'm sure you can spend some money to make it sound better and if you do that Audi won't take to kind to it and warranty claims will be a slippery slope.
I don't think that any standard type modifications will bring the sound back as long as the OPF and limiter is there.
@@TechInTheCar That's what I'm saying. It would be the same as the 8v opf you can bring the sound back by having the opf removed. But that would then mean an ecu tune as well but that'll be the warranty out of the window.
I agree but for me personally as much as I love the sound of my current car I also love the latest tech!
@@TechInTheCar don’t the North American models come without OPF?
Tutta la vita versione 2018 sotto tutti i punti di vista
Those wheels are fanatastic, but I'm no fan of 19s. Let alone staggered 19s. 18x8.5s at all four corners with 255/35 would be perfect.
I think 18s will look too small but I’m sure you could sell the 19s and pick up some 18s if you wanted to avoid the cost of two sets. I have a feeling these wheels will be very much in demand with people wanting them.
@@TechInTheCar True, they might look small. I'll have to watch your vid see how the wheel openings compare across generations. Scrolling thru Audizine 41 page 8V wheel fitment guide and 255/35 R look chonky enough to pull it off. Going to 7.4kg(!!) Wedsport TC105X in 18x8.5 would probably shave 4.5 kilos per corner which would be huge.
Had 235/35 R19s on my 2018 Golf R, just not the best ride. Going to 18s let me drop 2.7 kilos per corner in wheel weight, and the 245/40 R18 filled the wheel openings decently, and dramatically improved comfort while retaining handling.
Going off what you said at 11.20, does the 8Y rs3 have some form of soundakator? Cheers
Yes it does. It is very easy to hear. If you listen when you watch my driving video you can hear how much noise is pumped in.
Damn the old one sounds insane 😮
I agree!
I LOVE THIS COMPARISON
Thanks
UK is not in the EU, so why is the soft limiter required
Unless the U.K. passes laws that are different from the E.U then the cars will be exactly the same. And that won’t happen as the U.K. Government wants the same as the E.U in terms of the environment and emissions.
Nice ad for the new rs
Sure is!
no mention of the lack of shifter lever in the 2022 model?
It didn’t bother me. It makes it easier to change gear. You can actually buy third party replacements from China if you prefer an actual gear stick like on the 8V. Even possible to get them in alcantara.
@@TechInTheCar can u elaborate on how the new setup makes it easier to change gear? Good to know there are aftermarket options!
In terms of it just being a flick to change gear which makes it faster. Does it look as good? no it doesn't, but if you want a different look there are options as I said.
older one sounds better and its actually not even remotely close... hopefully this new one gets an exhaust upgrade option that fixes it like the current generation did.
I think the ECU is the thing limiting this as changing the exhaust but still having the limiter and other restrictions might make it deeper but that’s all.
Man it sounds like the last Gen has an exhaust set up on it.
I’m sure that’s nothing a resonator delete couldn’t fix on the new one.
Also, talked about the interior and totally glossed over the new wonky shifter
The 2018 is the stock exhaust. The new shifter is a bit of a let down but mainly because it isn’t any different from the other “lesser” models. It doesn’t say RS or have any alcantara or anything else. The fact it’s small and looks dinky isn’t really a big deal as the car is automatic.
@@TechInTheCar I’m considering selling my 2019 Performance pack mustang gt for one of these when they release here in the states, but it seems like they are kind of cutting features rather than them and charging more money for it. So I’m a bit torn
It is true about loosing features however it seems to mainly be the UK that is having this issue - lets see what happens when it is able to order in the USA as it may have all the stuff we want here and can’t get!
@@TechInTheCar could be. I heard that Canada has confirmed they won’t be getting the TTRS or RS3.
I have seen that as well confirmed by Audi. Such a shame.
I sold my golf r this summer in preparation for the rs3 2022 release but I think we’re waiting awhile across the pond. No information yet when we’ll get it. 8v definitely sounds better
Even with demo cars here in the UK there won't be any customer ordered cars until Easter I expect (maybe a couple will slip in here and there) but despite no date for you guys it doesn't mean you will be waiting any longer than most of us in the UK!
Does this 2022 model have performance exhaust?
Yes it does
The 8v sound better
What makes it sound better?
@@TechInTheCar depending on the model year of your 8V, The Facelift model came with either the DAZA engine (no OPF, 2017/2018) or DNWA (OPF fitted, 2019+). The 8Y model has the engine with the OPF fitted so takes away a lot of the noise and character of the engine.
@@TechInTheCar The 8V just sounds much more aggressive, more of a growl. The new car does look better but a bit disappointing with the sound. The price is a bit tough on the new car.
Mine has no OPF but your right that there was an OPF facelift version,
Is the wireless charging definitely not coming for later models? I've heard this twice now, but the dealer my Vorsprung is on order with has only been able to confirm the 360° camera being dropped
The wireless changing was never on the U.K. car spec to start with. If you look at the order sheet you will see that unfortunately.
@@TechInTheCar how bizarre... That's not the information that I've been given. I shall look deeper. Not sure what the point of wireless Android Auto is if I've got to keep it plugged in to charge. I know it's an amazing car, but I'm feeling more and more like my order was a mistake
@@TechInTheCar do you know if it at least has the other functionality and boosts the phone signal like the Mk3? I have a SIM in mine to provide an internal WiFi network, too
No wireless charging or phone box to boost signal unless you have a Launch Edition. It was never in the spec. Check the configurator print out if you want to see for yourself.
@@TechInTheCar thanks. It's just a bit crap when you need to get this info from a UA-cam channel instead of the actual Audi dealer. I need to dig that order form out. Thanks for being brilliant
is this a real question, what car sound better?
Any chance they'll offer more customisation in 12mths or so when the market settles down?
I think it is very likely that they will add options back in based on demand once the backlog has been filled. But I wouldn’t wait for that as it’s not a guarantee.
Sound 8y better than 8v ? 😂😂😂😂 Its a Joke
The OPF is like castrating your prized bull in the herd. It's not an RS once it's OPF'd. Nothing will make that OPF car sound better, except de-OPF'ing it!
Have you driven/owned an Audi RS with OPF? Thought not. I have, both an 8Y RS3 and the TTRS. As you put miles on them, they start to sound better and it's only at a standstill or at low revs where the noise is subdued, once you get going, they still sound pretty darn good. Pops and bangs? For the kids and boy racers. Not wanted and very happy they are no more. Having driven the new RS3, it's not too loud and sounds just fine to me.
@@luciussander8217 Piss off, wanker! I own a OPF 2020 8V and it sounded like complete shit. Even with a valve controller, it was only half decent. Who gives a shit about pops and bangs? It's about the car sounding like an RS! I wasn't into waking the neighbours or a "look at me" screamer. Once I de-OPF'd the car with a catted Unitronic DP, it sounds as it should. aggressive, deep and growling! None of this overloud non-catted bullshit with tinny raspy tones. If you don't want volume and tone in your RS, go to an S3. The RS is a performance car, and the biggest part of its appeal is the unique 12453 sound. Turn off the soundaktor pumping into your cabin from the speakers and then tell me what you hear from your OPF'd car.....close to nothing.
@@luciussander8217 The pops and bangs on a car like the RS3 are hallmarks of its performance, they're not the same as the forced pops and bangs on some 18 year old kids fiesta.
I have a stock 2018 Audi TT RS and it sounds amazing. I wouldn’t part ex for the new Audi RS3. No offence to anyone who likes having filters on 🤣
Good video !
Thanks!
2018 🙉 2022 👌
8v: lion roar
8y: mouse squeak
💯 2018 all day long 👍
2018 sounded way better. And I prefer the exhaust to actually be attached.
The interior sucks on the new audi id still take the old rs3 for interior and sound! just put stage 1 map and have a car quicker also!
There's nothing wrong with the interior and it's a big improvement over the previous car, especially the stupid screen that surfaced from the dash and now that old car, just looks dated. I owned a 19 plate RS3 BTW. Sound wise, these are new RS3's, they get way more vocal with a few miles on the clock and once rolling, sound great. LOL and remap any car and it's quicker, so bit of a dumb remark. I suspect someone can't afford the new one...
The interior is OK. I sat in the new RS3 last week - I didn't feel like I was sitting in a Ford or God forbid a Fiat or Renault. It's nice and isn't cheap at all. The tech is excellent and whilst there's no option to add the coloured stitching on the seats, at least you can add a bit of glam with the ambient lighting. Then go sit in a new Golf R - straight away you'd rather be in the Audi. The old RS3, which I had, I hated that silly screen that popped up from the dash and as someone else has pointed out, the 8Y is mega data inside compared with the latest Audis...
@@luciussander8217 come on mate the interior is bland! black on black on black!! i hate that touch screen only option! bmw i-drive is so much better! iv just got rid of 21 plate rs q3 sportback with same setup! black only option calipers unless going the grey carbon! no red option is mad! These are the reasons im not jumping into the new rs3 and have put deposit on mercedes cla 45s amg!
8:41 is the only part you want other than watching 20mins of waffle
It has chapters so you can just skip! LOL
Always lots of blah, blah, blah with this bloke
ignore him people have short attention spans due to overload of content
Old one is better indeed
Speed is a sensation and that new car sounds limp. Interior is not as nice although tech is good.
That new car is expensive but cheap in my opinion. Cannot see Audi getting my money. I suspect I'll find a 68plate TTrs in Ara Blue. The new colour pallet is terrible too.
I agree about colours; and sound but the new car is faster and more fun and has better technology in it. For some people the sound is all that matters so it just depends on what you want in a car.
@@TechInTheCar for me it's all about that grpB soundtrack. Me as a boy, wide eyed watching Quattros.
Which color is this? Looks like nardo grey but its not offered for this car. Is it an audi exclusive color?
Might be kemora grey
@@TalonV9 thanks for your answer, unfortunately its not the kemora grey - of the two standard grey colors one is blueish and one metallic grey
This is Kemora grey on the 2022 car. It looks like Nardo in person which is why it is confusing. On my 2018 it is Ara Blue.
@@TechInTheCar ok great, thank you very much!! In the cofiguratir it looks much more like a dark metallic grey…
Well the 8v (blue one) obviously has a down pipe and maybe midpipe or it wouldn’t sound as loud but either way the 8v is da besssss☺️
My RS3 is stock with no modifications…
The vents behind the front wheels are fake. No performance improvement. (3:45)
they are not fake they do go straight through. and they are primarily for the widened front stance because of the staggered setup.
@@hulkrs3738 I mean there is no air going through. It's closed.
@@andyjo8925 not sure on that, many reviews including Audis own release videos say they are indeed real and air does flow through them
@@knight2425 Do you have a reference to an official statement from Audi? i'd be very surprised. I've seen the car in real at an exhibition and checked that. There was no opening behind the wheel.
@@andyjo8925 I’ve seen a couple of release videos from Audi, one was about aero and it highlighted the airflow through that vent and down the side, the other was an Audi rep discussing the car and he made mention of the airflow through the vent to help brake cooling. I haven’t seen the car in person yet but have seen videos where people reviewing it had said it was real and other videos where people had said it was fake so not sure 100% whether it’s real or not but I’m tending to think it’s real if Audi say it is
Old period pre opf
8v all day.
2018 sounds way better
I agree!
The exhaust tips are BAD, maybe more sensible but it looks crap, I agree about red calipers, much nicer, god knows why you can’t option them, bloody stupid, your cars exhaust is obviously better, regulations 🙈 the silver wing mirrors are the signature for a S3/RS3, going black is ugly and ridiculous, your car with the silver accents looks much nicer than 8Y, I hate black this black that, stealth 🤣🤣 I don’t like your pop up television screen that sits awkwardly on the dash, much nicer in 8Y, yes the ambient lighting pack is superb, I have it 😄 blimey I have wireless charging 😜 great review 👍
I agree with everything your saying. Of course the standard RS3 gets the silver mirrors but I don’t think it looks as good as the blacked out versions. Maybe swapping the mirror caps is another change I will make. Thanks!
2018 better
By a country mile. For tuning and performance, the 8V every day of the week. If your buying a car to remain stock, the 2022 is definitely a good choice. I wouldn’t part with my 18 FL. 10 sec daily driver with only FMIC DP, Intake and E85. 355 awkw and 10.7’s as simple as that. Drives OEM, my wife drives it without ANY problem in comfort mode to work and to the shops. 8Y looks stunning, but I’ve never purchased a car based on looks, always power and tuning ability. Have an Iroz Haldex controller so I can drift if I want and send more power to the rears and it handles big power increases. Each to their own as we all have different plans for our cars.
The new one sounds 💩 which is why I’m not selling my FL2018 . I will switch brands to Porsche before buying another new audi
Engines are NOT exactly the same. Clearly you don’t know anything about the differences.
Please do tell me the differences. My car has no OPF filter and soft-limiter but the new model does.
@@TechInTheCar the 18 FL is a DAZA, the rest are not. Basic dude. But you are more focused on how they look.
The engine is the same engine here; it may have a different code to it but the differences are software and particulate filters.
@@TechInTheCar nope. The amount of DNWA engines that have gone bang after tuning is huge. Why do you think IROZ and co. tune DAZA engines much further than DNWA? Cams, compression ratio and pistons are different. This has been confirmed by numerous sources including Audi employees directly related to performance and RS derivatives. My tuner has also confirmed and I’ve personally seen 4 x blown DNWA engines in 6 months, all with relatively basic tunes. My tuner knows his stuff, and has been at the forefront of tuning RS3’s for years. Hope you don’t find out the hard way like others have dude, but you are in for a rude shock if you think the engines are identical apart from OPF. Take from that what you will. 👍
That is interesting to know; thanks for updating me. I am not personally interested in tuning my car. If I want a faster car I will spend the money to buy one. I love the RS3 because for me it is the perfect middle ground of performance and size and features.
Old sounds Way better.
Wrong!!!
Yes! you are. Thanks 😊
NEW 2022 IST BETTER IN ALL WAYS!
That is why I ordered one!
Pretty obvious. The new car sounds like shit. Better decat downpipe that thing ASAP
Rubbish. Have you driven one? I have, you clearly haven't. All new cars with OPF are quieter at rest or slower speeds - once rolling they sound just fine. Pops and bangs? Good riddance. Those are for boy racers or knob lords.
@@luciussander8217 well I own an R8 V10 Plus and an RS3. Both of them have New exhausts. Keep your quiet crappy sounding cars.
Luscious lips is off again, more money than brain cells 😜
@@coops111s yup, idiot comment. No clue about the car or engines heritage clearly. Because that's the only reason someone would say something as dumb as that.
Same boring Engine