Reminiscences de K4
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2023
- Describing my Histocrypt Kryptos K4 paper and many other findings.
Histocrypt paper - ecp.ep.liu.se/index.php/histocrypt/article/view/153
Conversation article -
theconversation.com/declassified-cold-war-code-breaking-manual-has-lessons-for-solving-impossible-puzzles-161595
Callimahos - governmentattic.org/41docs/NSAmilitaryCryptalyticsPt3_1977.pdf
NCID - dev.cryptool.org/en/cto/ncid
Histocrypt code - github.com/RichardBean/k4testing
Hello. You are right. There is no transposition in K4. Jim probably just completed the mini tableau with his imagination. As a result of complexity plus the short length of the 97 letters message it means a quasi random arrangement or the same as a long key asymmetric vigenere on a small plain. This fact explains one or two "strong" ciphers we have found in a weak ciphering (same letter in the crib and the cipher). Thanks.
Lethean, Parasystole
I like the puzzle. But i think parts were missed some on how it was first solved vs. how they wanted it to be solved. Are they looking at layer 2? K2 might have a match-up clue in the plane site. The words before each X. Possible field location somewhere message west. ( abscissa bscissaa X latlyer 2) Just a thought. K3 mist Q. ? K2,K3 Possible this location Q ?The Morse code part might be simple, like the number of e's to line the word is on. Digital RQ sos shadow forces interpritat it T is your position virtually shadow memory. Or something like that.
The weird thing, I'm not sure he even knew making the various crypto. Some of his pieces fit together like a codex of Ciphers. It's kind of cool.
Great talk, Richard! At 35:50 you said that we know there's no transposition involved. Do we know this for sure?
Hi Sam, thanks! With the observation about the small movements in CT letters (relative to A-Z) and Greg Materna's observation, I am pretty confident the operation is not of the form (a) transpose plaintext, apply another step or (b) apply a step and transpose the result; because I don't think the observations would be preserved after those steps. This is also what Bob Bogart extracted out of Sanborn at the 2019 meeting i.e. each PT letter has an operation applied, and a CT letter is obtained. This doesn't preclude a key being generated (e.g. Gromark expansion) then THAT being transposed; which could explain some of the phenomena at the end of my second video ua-cam.com/video/92joqvgz0oI/v-deo.html
How was *it* transmitted?
Via Morse code of course. Morse goes Underguund, just like the Inscriptions.
Each press of a button, shifts the alphabet by 4.
It could be morse by radio...
The way it was first solved threw people off. I think they wanted it to be a learning tool.
K1 underlayer in plain sight. L is key for L words. " Light lies "," between subtle shading and the absence of the nuance of illusion"
Keyword illusion ( Q,L )
K2 layer 2 and words before X's. " field location somewhere message west " The X's have a hidden check.
Possible layer 3
Between X's and ?'s " Does Langley know about this? Who knows the location?
Words before ?'s " possible this location? "
Keyword underground ( O,U )
O's " out only "
K3 before X's. " Mist ". X's to ?'s." Can you see anything?
Letter or word sub befoe ?'s. "Q",illusion
Keyword desperately ( I,E )
E's " Encumbered escaping emerged "
You can see some of the style he had for layers and the message type. Simple, yet effective. Looking like a ww2 spy report.
K4 was not encrypted by using a known method, this is what several hints tell us.
I would say one hint, but if you have more quotes saying that, please comment with a citation.
Pro: K4 uses a system "unknown to anyone on the planet" (2007 DC Visit, Elonka, 2007-10-23)
Against: Elonka jumped in to remind Ed that he once told her that Kryptos uses a system unknown to anyone on the planet. Ed stated he didn’t recall that conversation, and back-pedaled out of saying anything more. (2013-10-23)
The rest of the quotes are more neutral such as "a far more challenging cipher developed by and encoded for Sanborn by a former CIA employee" (1991), "potentially challenging encoding system" (1989), "a modern system created for the project by an expert cryptographer" (1990), "a secret modern code" (1991).
More or less true. But it doesn't matter now.
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Did I miss something?