People don't realize how dangerous mold can be. There are thousands of types of mold . And scientist only knows little bits about more common types. And treating mold in your lungs is a nightmare that you don't want to live through. It can also cause you to have mental health issues and hallucinations and cause you to go insane . People really need to take mold problems seriously and take proper precautions to avoid breathing it in their lungs. Bc once it is in your lungs it has the perfect environment to reproduce and grow and you can't get it back out once it's in there . Mold can be very deadly .
Yeah, this was actually kinda scary to watch. No masks, no ventilation, putting your faces into enclosed pockets after you've already been disturbing the mold inside... However long that initial cleaning took, it also sent spores all through the cabin that entire time. And accepting that what we get to see is only edited snippets of a long, laborious job, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if your lightheadedness later in the day was actually the result of breathing in much more intense concentrations of mold, possibly for hours, and had nothing to do with the ozone cleaner... It just got the blame because we all tend to ascribe consequences to the most recent thing we did. Anyway that Ozone cleaner is a stop-gap at best. Spores are going to find their way back before long, and until the conditions in those cavities are changed, they'll keep making happy homes in there... In a building/DIY context we'd use mold repelling interior paints for rooms susceptible to mold and mildew growth. I'm not sure what the options are in a marine context, but the long term solution is to make those hidden spaces a hostile environment for mold, as much as you're able.
Hi guys. To stop condensation take the roof liner off and insulate with marine insulation, repeat for walls. Also, please wear an airtight filter mask. Mould infections in lungs are extremely difficult to eradicate. Love your vlogs.
Guys, there are mold bomb foggers that will kill the mold anywhere the air can reach....and you wouldn't have to disassemble the boat. Products have been around for a long time now. I also use a negative ion generator (Ozone machine to some) - I run it for about 2 hours each month - but the 3 P's rule alpplies - while the machine is on no plants, pets or people in the area being treated. It can harm the repsiratory system! Air out the space for about 30 minutes before re-entering it. Works like a champ. You can even use some small fans blowing into cabinet spaces to aid coverage penetration. Then I see you have a machine already lol...
From a former building inspector - Mold is mold. The color is irrelevant. The idea that black mold is worse is a media driven myth. Those who are sensitive to mold (not everybody) can be sensitive to any color. To remedy a mold problem, first remove moisture. Realize you two exhale more than a pint of moisture a day just breathing. Your dehumidifier is a great first step. Then insulate your hull so any remaining moisture does not condense there and invite more mold. Or return to the tropics never to sail in colder climates again.
Not true, black mold is a thing and over time it can and will cripple your ability to breath and will cause all sorts of health issues. Black mold is the worst kind of mold to have infest your home.
Correct. There are a number of molds and mildews that appear black. There has also been no proven link that THE “black mold” blamed for several deaths because it was present when some people died of pneumonia in an apartment building in Ohio is toxic to humans at all. Experiments have yielded zero negative results.
I agree and you beat me to the punch. Only they not only have two adults breathing in this berthing, they also have two dogs!!! After the mold is removed/killed, they need to make a system for conditioned fresh air system with dehumidifying.
Looks like there needs to be more ventilation behind the cabinets and in the openings to circulate air so if it ever gets wet again it will dry quicker!
I second this idea except forget N95 crap, they call them 95 because they miss the last 5%. Use a mask that seals against your face. Check out MSA (or equivalent) that are rated for fine particles like Asbestos. They are often rated for organic solvents too, like paint and fuel. Cost is about $30.
I used to work for a disaster recovery company and ozone machines are widely used after floods and work very well. We used to really seal off the affected area though.
Hole saw tip of the day: After you start the cut drill an two additional wholes along the saw line for the wood chips to fall through, this allows for less friction.
Ozone generator and then spray inside with mold Armor from Home Depot. That helps keep it from coming back. I have one of those 80’s boats that you referred to. Plus I live aboard in NY.
Ozone generators are great, with the exception that they cause rubber to deteriorate. Degraded rubber seals and hoses is a far greater problem in a boat.
Ozone generator filters can damage the cells in the lungs over time. Shouldn't be living there while using it to kill the mold. Just as bad for humans as it is for mold
Ozon ? Why you like breathing neon tube plasma. That only stinks the ozon does nothing. I say a magnetic ring filter form tell sell . Man those look great and cleans like a hoover. Even scientist are baffled.
Black mould spores can have a detrimental affect on your respiratory system so please use a mask and you could really do with a dehumidifier. I don’t know if you watch sailing melenial falcon but that really helped them
That's a mammoth task!! Good luck!! A good plan while you're still working is a really good HEPA air filter to remove the spores as well as insulating the boat too.
Not sure if this has been said, but ozone generator will destroy many materials including leather, rubber, electrical coatings (!) different fabrics, etc. We had a house fire and used an ozone generator to remove smoke. Helped with odor, but ruined some things.
Sailing Uma’s Dan & Kikka gave you good advice, ventilation and the use of a whole house dehumidifier running 24/7 draining someplace that will not fill up. This will prevent condensation forming from the moisture that is in the air from your breathing, bathing, cooking, and of course from the humidity in the air. Definitely wear masks whilst cleaning! Cover everything with plastic before cleaning. Use 10:1 water to bleach or vinegar in a sprayer to clean with. Let it soak in for 5-minutes before wiping up with microfiber wipes. If you are planning on going up into higher latitudes, you should insulate the hull and the overhead. Dan & Kikka glued foam tiles onto the hull. Also, run a whole house HEPA with UV to filter the air. Thanks for the Ozone Generator tip! Good luck with the rest of the boat.
Im glad to say we have an 80s trawler and i have recently removed all the teak and vinyl covering the walls and caninets....no mold anywhere. I do run A/C or dehumidifier 24/7.
After Hurricane Ida, our fishing camp was damaged and we had mold all over. I bought a product Concrobium Mold Remover. Just had to spray it on all surfaces with mold. Upon contact it started dissolving the mold and I never had to go back over any area I covered. By the way, I love both channels. Keep up the good work.
You should consider spraying Lizard Skin Ceramic Insulation on hull behind furniture. It is used in RV’s, vehicles, & marine industry to sound deaden, insulate, & stop condensation.
Because of your video, I now will look for mold on my boat and I just bought an ozone generator too. Thanks. Supposedly, the generator can help with odors too.
Check on your mold issues frequently. Spores actually exist on everything that was in the presence of mold. There are candles and wicks to help keep the count down.
Tips for the penniless: 1. Use baking soda as a paste on mold FIRST(adds oxygen kills mold) 2. Wipe/wash away with vinegar water. 3. A sep bucket with really hot water to rinse out the rag before placing the rag back in the vinegar water. ∆ | No point in clearing mold if the rag is being consistently being dunked in the "clean cleaning" solution. Mold will just spread to other areas. The cleaning water won't be clean it'll just be smearing it. Don't believe me? Take a black light to the cabinets that were just cleaned. Cleaning and permanently getting rid of mold is a specialty of mine. Cars and tents should crack a window to allow heat to escape to avoid condensation. Especially if humans and dogs are sleeping in the a shared space. ❤❤❤❤❤
What an adventure you are having. We lived on a boat for some years and with a mattress direct on wooden boards you will get moisture under the mattress. Sweat actually!! What I would suggest is ventilating under the mattress by putting a slat system laid on the boards or using the Froli system. Some people use a mesh fabric designed to allow ventilation but these are a bit limited. We used a slat system sold for this purpose that cam with its own mounts so it just fitted on the boards with the mattress on the slats. Worked really well and stopped moisture under the mattress!
My daughter's house went underwater with the floods in Queensland a few years back and she wound up living there for almost 2 years with mould that would not quit, while she found another house. She borrowed my IQAir HealthPro 250 and it is not a plug for their units but a plug for any good quality air purifier. It made a huge difference in making it livable and no mould reactions as it had been filtered out. I would suggest something like that while you go through the process and as for every other comment use a mask. The ozone machine yes but you need to clean the air quickly as you just stir it up all the time during this process.
You need to insulate your boat with armaflex so you don't get condensation when you heat up your boat during winter and cold before next time you come to cold places, I have a big sailboat that is insulated with armaflex now! Before i insulate i have same problem, now is notning dehumidifies for half an hour a day and it is completely dry! insulation makes my little Dieselheater 5kw my boat 25 degrees even if it is minus 10 outside and is only running 50%, is 100L diesel/month.. Armaflex is expensive, sailboat likes yours it would probably cost about 3000 dollars, but you can use EVA foam, is maybe 500 dollers and 200 dollers for glued! but it has to be glued on, it's quite a lot of work because all surfaces have to be glued 100%, otherwise condensation can form between the layers of insulation! And you need some window covering for all windows that are on the deck, or you can replace the glass with thicker double-glazed windows but agian is cost a lot so a cheap window covering is fine (: Thanks for good video and Fair Winds and Following Seas, maybe we'll see each other out in the big world, I'll be sailing around the world in a few years. Greetings from a guy who lives in northern!
I hope you guys have plans to seal those moldy surfaces with something in the future, such as a polyurethane or something to prevent the mold from being able to get into the air and wood at the same time.
Glad you found that mold. So glad you got it handled and can now breath clean air. You did every right thing in cleaning it. Love you both and I've missed you two. Be safe. Love n hugs, Myk
Hey guys, Ryobi makes a mini fogger so you can fog a bleach water solution behind all the cabinets. The Ozone generator should help eliminate the bleach smell afterwards. You can use a hole saw to make access points and cover them with grilles to help with airflow to keep it dry. Shower drain inserts make nice small round grilles
You two Rock. Having been a motor boater for decades, I’m aware of & SO impressed with the Magnitude of All the Work you’ve done on EVA. Had to Super-Fan’ed Thank You as I have enjoyed all your Vlogs. And your passage to the Azores… Wow. Congrats and Be Well!
18:00 Jees, feel like there should be some kind of old fashioned signal flag while in harbour meaning 'closed for mould cleaning'. (Tricorn) hats off to you both.
The Concrobium fogger is an ideal way to apply Concrobium Mold Control, a proven mold fighting solution that effectively eliminates, cleans and prevents mold and musty odors without any harmful chemicals.
IMPORTANT. This is the best advice you will get. Remove food and any soft materials that you can, open up as many air flow routes as possible, and fog away. Commercial restoration companies use this.
I was about to mention this. One of the best solutions for your issue. Fog the entire interior, far less disassembly required. Look up RGF - Environmental Group in Ft Lauderdale. I own and have used their portable unit aboard several vessels to kill mold and also “other” odors. I have one of their systems installed in my home HVAC unit. Anytime my system runs, the UV unit also kicks on. Totally human, pet, plant and food safe. Concrobium in either liquid or spray/fine mist is far better and safer than bleach or other homemade concoctions. Good luck!
Helpful video. If you see condensation, mold is next. We design insulation levels for condensation avoidance. Keep surface temperature ABOVE dew point with heat, dehumidification, and insulation.
I feel your pain. I’m currently in the UK and despite the cold weather, I always sleep with a hatch open. Apparently we breath out around 2litres of water every night, and that has to go somewhere. I have multiple moisture traps which seem to work well but I still have mould. It’s a constant battle. I’m just praying for warmer weather so I can leave everything open. AG1 seems like a great subsidy, thanks for the advice. I’ve seen a few sailing channels that promote this. Time to place an order. 🙏🏽❤️ Loved your Atlantic voyage. You and your dogs are an inspiration. ❤️❤️❤️
Anyone else holding their breaths watching jade wipe everything down,bless you guys thank goodness you cleaned everywhere and have a dehumidifier on board, ventilation is key but definitely give your mattresses a deep vacuum or even steam them along with washing all of your soft furnishings Take care 🤗
Check under the ceiling panels. Notorious for hiding mold. I’m VERY allergic to mold so have gone to extremes to eradicate it at all costs. The sooner the better. Dehumidifier is key. So is an air purifier. Good luck.
I hate it for you guys. Lots of work but in the end another life lesson. Maybe you can tutor us all how to prevent mold? You guys are awesome. Keep up the awesome work sharing. Keep living the dream!
Boiling water on your kitchen stove adds a lot of moisture to the interior of your boat. Whenever practical I use a propane burner on the back deck in cold weather to boil water, it reduces the condensation inside.
After you clean the porous surfaces ( wood ) use clear spray paint to seal it off. It’ll help prevent moisture from penetrating into the porous surfaces again.
I know it's too late watching this episode but, they sell kits that you can send out samples of the mold to determine if the mold is dangerous or not. Lowes, Home Depot for example. Gloves, respirators, etc. 😵😍
Suggestion: As I watched your video I noticed that there is a small air gap between the fiberglass and the backside of the cabinets that extends from the bow to the stern of the boat. Mold territory. I would get the smallest (power wise) "Dehumidifier" like the one you have and do some creative installing. Mount the dehumidifier at one end of the boat and make a duct (hose) that connects directly to the dehumidifier and forces the "dehumidified" air from the unit into the cavity between the wall and fiberglass. At the other end of the boat drill a 3" hole and insert a grill to let the dry air exhaust from behind the cabinets. It does not have to be a lot of CFM to circulate the dry air through the small passage way. I would install small fan (5 VDC computer fan) at far end of the boat to exhaust the dry air from behind the cabinets. Adding the 2nd fan would insure that the air was sucked all the way through the small opening. Wire the system so it only works while the Solar panels are generating electricity, or your generator is running or on shore power. Just a thought. To test just put a hygrometer by the exhaust fan to see how much moisture is being removed. Should make you feel better and a lot less work in the future.
That is a great idea. I know we use a ozone 3 machine in air conditioning, ductwork, and things like that when they have a leak condensation and we use that to kill everything inside that we can’t get out through flushing and vacuuming.
Just can't help but admire how you two tackle projects.. all guns blazing and who needs stinking masks.. the pups clearly agree and obviously had a warry eye much love and Thanks so much for sharing
Star brite No Damp Hanging Moisture Absorber & Dehumidifier available at West Marine AND an exhaust fan to remove all of the humidity from the washing machine.
Great tips her as all boats struggle with mold. Like ozone generator ( please be careful) and if have water version you can use to sterilize veggies. Finally, I have used kilz on raw fiberglass , bilge & behind cabinets as resistant to growth.
I’ve used an aerosolized mold chemical in the past to mitigate mold in a basement. I think an annual treatment would be a good practice. Set the machine up, open everything and let it run. Ozone will kill the mold as well.
I've wondered about mold in cruising sailboats. The ozone tutorial was informative 🙂 nice Raf reference (I'm in construction and appreciate his skills) great episode 👏👏👏
You need to get one of those spring adapter for the drill. They will give you ability to bend the extension like you needed to for those her head screws.
Such an interesting episode! I think you are an amazing team and can tackle anything! Mould is always an issue in yachts… but better ventilation behind those cabinets is a must! ❤
Before re-installing the cabinets you should insulate the hull above the waterline to prevent condensation. You want condensation below the waterline as a natural de-humidifyer. Best insulation for the hull is the polyurethane foam floor pads that interlock.
Glad to see you were using vinegar instead of bleach to clean it all off. Some people only use bleach thinking it will get rid of it - it doesn't. Vinegar actually kills the mold. Bleach is ok for any unsightly staining.
Good job tracking that down guy's hopefully your health gets back to normal now, I looked inside my Aircond unit and saw black mould, So found my model on UA-cam and Dismantled it, Washed and cleaned with Hospital grade Disinfectant, Like New now and blowing beautiful Clean Air again.. Maybe also check inside Yours.. Love from The Land Down Under 😘 😘 😘
14:32 yeah, you gotta let the drill run higher RPMs because the little fan on the back of the motor is cool the drill, besides that you guys are doing amazing
It looks and sounds like he didn't have the drill in it's low gear, and he was barely pressing the trigger to keep the rpm slow, creating a situation that can overheat the motor/wiring.
You might want to try a product like Wet And Forget Indoor to spray behind the cabinets and hidden spaces. It will fight mold for about 6 months. Just mist it in every 6 months.
drill tip. the drill wants to spins at max rpm for cooling. next time dont push and bump the trigger it will over heat and cook any grease on the motor.
The veneer has interesting coloured ‘figuring’ whilst the grain in the veneer is probably straight, due to the direction of the cutting of the veneer through the section of the tree.
Note to boat designers and builders (well actually a request), for all your new future builds make everything quick release panels to get behind not only for repairs/maintenance but for frequent cleaning of mould!. We don't all live in hot dry climates you know!, in fact I expect more than you think don't!..
Whenever working on mold removal, mold experts will tell you, that a mask is preferable usually a 3M 95, as the spores are in the air when you disturb the surface, You could be sick for some time be very careful with your removal.
The ventilation in these boats is so bad. You can add ventilation, and it will help. Dehumidifier is also a great addition, it really helps. Meaco is a good brand for dehumidifier. Mine takes like over a liter of water from the air in 24h when it is cold out.
I might say “greater” vocabulary 😊 (just to fuel the dissension)! It feels like it wasn’t so long back when all the fixtures were removed and then put back - which I’ll put down to “time flies when you’re having fun”!
11:46 too bad you didn’t notice there was a 3/8 adapter for the drill to use with the sockets in that big kit you had live and learn we’ve all been there. I just love that you guys are tackling this.
After 30 years aboard I have found you need to keep the cabin under 40% humidity or so. I prefer 35% or below. It can take a serious dehumidifier to accomplish this. I have pulled as much as a gallon of water a day. Humidity meters rock! I have an ozone generator but only crank it up for odor issues. Good luck guys.
Was so glad to find a new post from you guys. Oops, mild! Guess you can’t get away from all the problems. Anyway, as always enjoyed the update and fun to see you Be safe!❤
you will need to insulate the deckhead and the hull to prevent a repeat of this problem. Good Luck with a solution, it will make a huge difference to your personal health.
I’ll go ahead and agree with the above comments suggesting an ozone generator. Tour buses use them a lot between leases to get rid of the accumulated foot/weed funk. The big ones should be used while you’re NOT aboard, but I’ve found smaller ones that plug into a 12v power outlet that are good for maintaining. Works wonders.
I’m encouraging a mask next time please.
Yes, and gloves too
And gloves! ☮️💜🤙⛵
People don't realize how dangerous mold can be. There are thousands of types of mold . And scientist only knows little bits about more common types. And treating mold in your lungs is a nightmare that you don't want to live through. It can also cause you to have mental health issues and hallucinations and cause you to go insane . People really need to take mold problems seriously and take proper precautions to avoid breathing it in their lungs. Bc once it is in your lungs it has the perfect environment to reproduce and grow and you can't get it back out once it's in there . Mold can be very deadly .
I want to say the same thing, but I'm not you're mama. I am a Healthcare professional though, so pretty please, with sugar on top, wear a mask!!!! ❤😊
Yeah, this was actually kinda scary to watch. No masks, no ventilation, putting your faces into enclosed pockets after you've already been disturbing the mold inside... However long that initial cleaning took, it also sent spores all through the cabin that entire time.
And accepting that what we get to see is only edited snippets of a long, laborious job, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if your lightheadedness later in the day was actually the result of breathing in much more intense concentrations of mold, possibly for hours, and had nothing to do with the ozone cleaner... It just got the blame because we all tend to ascribe consequences to the most recent thing we did.
Anyway that Ozone cleaner is a stop-gap at best. Spores are going to find their way back before long, and until the conditions in those cavities are changed, they'll keep making happy homes in there... In a building/DIY context we'd use mold repelling interior paints for rooms susceptible to mold and mildew growth. I'm not sure what the options are in a marine context, but the long term solution is to make those hidden spaces a hostile environment for mold, as much as you're able.
Hi guys. To stop condensation take the roof liner off and insulate with marine insulation, repeat for walls. Also, please wear an airtight filter mask. Mould infections in lungs are extremely difficult to eradicate. Love your vlogs.
That’s the problem. It is not humidity but the fact that boats don’t have insulation. That causes condensation due to the dew point and mould.
Guys wearing a mask when disrupting mold spores is recommended please.
N95 masks are needed. There are long term effects to mold exposure. As you expose you will make airborn spores and toxins.
The washing machine is probably adding to the mold issue, too.
Do they have a dryer also?
Guys, there are mold bomb foggers that will kill the mold anywhere the air can reach....and you wouldn't have to disassemble the boat. Products have been around for a long time now. I also use a negative ion generator (Ozone machine to some) - I run it for about 2 hours each month - but the 3 P's rule alpplies - while the machine is on no plants, pets or people in the area being treated. It can harm the repsiratory system! Air out the space for about 30 minutes before re-entering it. Works like a champ. You can even use some small fans blowing into cabinet spaces to aid coverage penetration. Then I see you have a machine already lol...
From a former building inspector - Mold is mold. The color is irrelevant. The idea that black mold is worse is a media driven myth. Those who are sensitive to mold (not everybody) can be sensitive to any color. To remedy a mold problem, first remove moisture. Realize you two exhale more than a pint of moisture a day just breathing. Your dehumidifier is a great first step. Then insulate your hull so any remaining moisture does not condense there and invite more mold. Or return to the tropics never to sail in colder climates again.
Lysol dispinfectant kills mold
Not true, black mold is a thing and over time it can and will cripple your ability to breath and will cause all sorts of health issues. Black mold is the worst kind of mold to have infest your home.
Correct. There are a number of molds and mildews that appear black. There has also been no proven link that THE “black mold” blamed for several deaths because it was present when some people died of pneumonia in an apartment building in Ohio is toxic to humans at all. Experiments have yielded zero negative results.
I agree and you beat me to the punch. Only they not only have two adults breathing in this berthing, they also have two dogs!!! After the mold is removed/killed, they need to make a system for conditioned fresh air system with dehumidifying.
Bullshit . They are all bad , brightly colored are worse
Looks like there needs to be more ventilation behind the cabinets and in the openings to circulate air so if it ever gets wet again it will dry quicker!
Wear N95 Masks when working around mold!
I second this idea except forget N95 crap, they call them 95 because they miss the last 5%. Use a mask that seals against your face. Check out MSA (or equivalent) that are rated for fine particles like Asbestos. They are often rated for organic solvents too, like paint and fuel. Cost is about $30.
I used to work for a disaster recovery company and ozone machines are widely used after floods and work very well. We used to really seal off the affected area though.
Hole saw tip of the day: After you start the cut drill an two additional wholes along the saw line for the wood chips to fall through, this allows for less friction.
You two work SO well together on hard, nasty, disgusting jobs! Congratulations for being so cool! 😊
Ozone generator and then spray inside with mold Armor from Home Depot. That helps keep it from coming back. I have one of those 80’s boats that you referred to. Plus I live aboard in NY.
Ozone generators are great, with the exception that they cause rubber to deteriorate. Degraded rubber seals and hoses is a far greater problem in a boat.
Second vote for Mold Armor.... I use their siding product on my house siding.and it works better than anything I've ever used.
Ozone generator filters can damage the cells in the lungs over time. Shouldn't be living there while using it to kill the mold. Just as bad for humans as it is for mold
Ozon ? Why you like breathing neon tube plasma. That only stinks the ozon does nothing.
I say a magnetic ring filter form tell sell . Man those look great and cleans like a hoover.
Even scientist are baffled.
I use an ozone generator once a week it’s pretty toxic to living organisms. I really have to air out my sailboat afterwards works great
Black mould spores can have a detrimental affect on your respiratory system so please use a mask and you could really do with a dehumidifier. I don’t know if you watch sailing melenial falcon but that really helped them
The color doesn't matter.
That's a mammoth task!! Good luck!! A good plan while you're still working is a really good HEPA air filter to remove the spores as well as insulating the boat too.
Love watching you guys, the good and the bad. Beautiful couple, thank you for documenting your adventures.
Concerned about mold under the ceiling covers.
Not sure if this has been said, but ozone generator will destroy many materials including leather, rubber, electrical coatings (!) different fabrics, etc. We had a house fire and used an ozone generator to remove smoke. Helped with odor, but ruined some things.
Sailing Uma’s Dan & Kikka gave you good advice, ventilation and the use of a whole house dehumidifier running 24/7 draining someplace that will not fill up. This will prevent condensation forming from the moisture that is in the air from your breathing, bathing, cooking, and of course from the humidity in the air. Definitely wear masks whilst cleaning! Cover everything with plastic before cleaning. Use 10:1 water to bleach or vinegar in a sprayer to clean with. Let it soak in for 5-minutes before wiping up with microfiber wipes. If you are planning on going up into higher latitudes, you should insulate the hull and the overhead. Dan & Kikka glued foam tiles onto the hull. Also, run a whole house HEPA with UV to filter the air. Thanks for the Ozone Generator tip! Good luck with the rest of the boat.
Fantastic, you guys are the best, hope the dogs appreciated all your hard work.
Can’t believe how much patients you guys have,amazing.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Im glad to say we have an 80s trawler and i have recently removed all the teak and vinyl covering the walls and caninets....no mold anywhere. I do run A/C or dehumidifier 24/7.
After Hurricane Ida, our fishing camp was damaged and we had mold all over. I bought a product Concrobium Mold Remover. Just had to spray it on all surfaces with mold. Upon contact it started dissolving the mold and I never had to go back over any area I covered. By the way, I love both channels. Keep up the good work.
You should consider spraying Lizard Skin Ceramic Insulation on hull behind furniture. It is used in RV’s, vehicles, & marine industry to sound deaden, insulate, & stop condensation.
Because of your video, I now will look for mold on my boat and I just bought an ozone generator too. Thanks. Supposedly, the generator can help with odors too.
Check on your mold issues frequently. Spores actually exist on everything that was in the presence of mold. There are candles and wicks to help keep the count down.
Indoor plants like Boston Fern help to reduce humidity. Also more ventilation would be good. And, yeah, wear masks when cleaning mould.
Tips for the penniless:
1. Use baking soda as a paste on mold FIRST(adds oxygen kills mold)
2. Wipe/wash away with vinegar water.
3. A sep bucket with really hot water to rinse out the rag before placing the rag back in the vinegar water.
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| No point in clearing mold if the rag is being consistently being dunked in the "clean cleaning" solution.
Mold will just spread to other areas. The cleaning water won't be clean it'll just be smearing it.
Don't believe me?
Take a black light to the cabinets that were just cleaned.
Cleaning and permanently getting rid of mold is a specialty of mine.
Cars and tents should crack a window to allow heat to escape to avoid condensation. Especially if humans and dogs are sleeping in the a shared space.
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What an adventure you are having. We lived on a boat for some years and with a mattress direct on wooden boards you will get moisture under the mattress. Sweat actually!! What I would suggest is ventilating under the mattress by putting a slat system laid on the boards or using the Froli system. Some people use a mesh fabric designed to allow ventilation but these are a bit limited. We used a slat system sold for this purpose that cam with its own mounts so it just fitted on the boards with the mattress on the slats. Worked really well and stopped moisture under the mattress!
The wood grain is quarter sawn 😊. Treat the spaces with a preventer before putting stuff back
My daughter's house went underwater with the floods in Queensland a few years back and she wound up living there for almost 2 years with mould that would not quit, while she found another house. She borrowed my IQAir HealthPro 250 and it is not a plug for their units but a plug for any good quality air purifier. It made a huge difference in making it livable and no mould reactions as it had been filtered out. I would suggest something like that while you go through the process and as for every other comment use a mask.
The ozone machine yes but you need to clean the air quickly as you just stir it up all the time during this process.
You need to insulate your boat with armaflex so you don't get condensation when you heat up your boat during winter and cold before next time you come to cold places, I have a big sailboat that is insulated with armaflex now! Before i insulate i have same problem, now is notning dehumidifies for half an hour a day and it is completely dry!
insulation makes my little Dieselheater 5kw my boat 25 degrees even if it is minus 10 outside and is only running 50%, is 100L diesel/month..
Armaflex is expensive, sailboat likes yours it would probably cost about 3000 dollars, but you can use EVA foam, is maybe 500 dollers and 200 dollers for glued! but it has to be glued on, it's quite a lot of work because all surfaces have to be glued 100%, otherwise condensation can form between the layers of insulation!
And you need some window covering for all windows that are on the deck, or you can replace the glass with thicker double-glazed windows but agian is cost a lot so a cheap window covering is fine (:
Thanks for good video and Fair Winds and Following Seas, maybe we'll see each other out in the big world, I'll be sailing around the world in a few years.
Greetings from a guy who lives in northern!
I hope you guys have plans to seal those moldy surfaces with something in the future, such as a polyurethane or something to prevent the mold from being able to get into the air and wood at the same time.
Glad you found that mold. So glad you got it handled and can now breath clean air. You did every right thing in cleaning it. Love you both and I've missed you two.
Be safe. Love n hugs, Myk
You guys are such a wonder. You are filled with determination. This is a lot of work, but you will really appreciated what you have done.
Hey guys, Ryobi makes a mini fogger so you can fog a bleach water solution behind all the cabinets. The Ozone generator should help eliminate the bleach smell afterwards. You can use a hole saw to make access points and cover them with grilles to help with airflow to keep it dry. Shower drain inserts make nice small round grilles
Not bleach. There are chemicals designed for this and none of them are bleach v m based.
bleach does not kill mold, high percentage hydrogen peroxide does
You two Rock. Having been a motor boater for decades, I’m aware of & SO impressed with the Magnitude of All the Work you’ve done on EVA. Had to Super-Fan’ed Thank You as I have enjoyed all your Vlogs. And your passage to the Azores… Wow. Congrats and Be Well!
18:00 Jees, feel like there should be some kind of old fashioned signal flag while in harbour meaning 'closed for mould cleaning'.
(Tricorn) hats off to you both.
Be careful of the Ozone. It kills mold but it is hard on everything else.
The Concrobium fogger is an ideal way to apply Concrobium Mold Control, a proven mold fighting solution that effectively eliminates, cleans and prevents mold and musty odors without any harmful chemicals.
IMPORTANT. This is the best advice you will get. Remove food and any soft materials that you can, open up as many air flow routes as possible, and fog away. Commercial restoration companies use this.
I was about to mention this. One of the best solutions for your issue. Fog the entire interior, far less disassembly required. Look up RGF - Environmental Group in Ft Lauderdale. I own and have used their portable unit aboard several vessels to kill mold and also “other” odors. I have one of their systems installed in my home HVAC unit. Anytime my system runs, the UV unit also kicks on. Totally human, pet, plant and food safe.
Concrobium in either liquid or spray/fine mist is far better and safer than bleach or other homemade concoctions.
Good luck!
Helpful video.
If you see condensation, mold is next.
We design insulation levels for condensation avoidance.
Keep surface temperature ABOVE dew point with heat, dehumidification, and insulation.
I feel your pain. I’m currently in the UK and despite the cold weather, I always sleep with a hatch open. Apparently we breath out around 2litres of water every night, and that has to go somewhere. I have multiple moisture traps which seem to work well but I still have mould. It’s a constant battle. I’m just praying for warmer weather so I can leave everything open.
AG1 seems like a great subsidy, thanks for the advice. I’ve seen a few sailing channels that promote this. Time to place an order. 🙏🏽❤️
Loved your Atlantic voyage. You and your dogs are an inspiration. ❤️❤️❤️
Anyone else holding their breaths watching jade wipe everything down,bless you guys thank goodness you cleaned everywhere and have a dehumidifier on board, ventilation is key but definitely give your mattresses a deep vacuum or even steam them along with washing all of your soft furnishings Take care 🤗
As a member of the Ocean Cruise Club Flying Fish and someone who has crossed the Atlantic twice, I recommend vinegar for mold removal.
Check under the ceiling panels. Notorious for hiding mold. I’m VERY allergic to mold so have gone to extremes to eradicate it at all costs. The sooner the better. Dehumidifier is key. So is an air purifier. Good luck.
I hate it for you guys. Lots of work but in the end another life lesson. Maybe you can tutor us all how to prevent mold? You guys are awesome. Keep up the awesome work sharing. Keep living the dream!
Boiling water on your kitchen stove adds a lot of moisture to the interior of your boat. Whenever practical I use a propane burner on the back deck in cold weather to boil water, it reduces the condensation inside.
It's super satisfying when cleaning something and you can make a swipe thru it each time.
Hello, in addition to ozone, you can also use ultraviolet “C” lights, but be careful with your skin and especially your eyes.
Change the hose out for pex ! Insulate the fibreglass hull areas. Repaint the tops of the shelves with an anti mould paint.
After you clean the porous surfaces ( wood ) use clear spray paint to seal it off. It’ll help prevent moisture from penetrating into the porous surfaces again.
Love your attitude and care for one another. Please wear a mask wherever you go on a mold remediation endeavor…and thanks for sharing!😊
Nice job making something mundane but serious fun and entertaining. You guys are great!
I know it's too late watching this episode but, they sell kits that you can send out samples of the mold to determine if the mold is dangerous or not. Lowes, Home Depot for example. Gloves, respirators, etc. 😵😍
Wipe your walls & cabinets down with tea tree oil. Works great preventing mold.
Suggestion:
As I watched your video I noticed that there is a small air gap between the fiberglass and the backside of the cabinets that extends from the bow to the stern of the boat. Mold territory. I would get the smallest (power wise) "Dehumidifier" like the one you have and do some creative installing. Mount the dehumidifier at one end of the boat and make a duct (hose) that connects directly to the dehumidifier and forces the "dehumidified" air from the unit into the cavity between the wall and fiberglass. At the other end of the boat drill a 3" hole and insert a grill to let the dry air exhaust from behind the cabinets. It does not have to be a lot of CFM to circulate the dry air through the small passage way. I would install small fan (5 VDC computer fan) at far end of the boat to exhaust the dry air from behind the cabinets. Adding the 2nd fan would insure that the air was sucked all the way through the small opening. Wire the system so it only works while the Solar panels are generating electricity, or your generator is running or on shore power. Just a thought. To test just put a hygrometer by the exhaust fan to see how much moisture is being removed. Should make you feel better and a lot less work in the future.
That is a great idea. I know we use a ozone 3 machine in air conditioning, ductwork, and things like that when they have a leak condensation and we use that to kill everything inside that we can’t get out through flushing and vacuuming.
Hi. Have you thought of putting a UV light behind bulkhead.put it on while you are out.
Will kill mold.
You should have put the cabinets back in the room before running the ozone machine. Now that they’re reinstalled maybe run the ozone machine again.
Just can't help but admire how you two tackle projects.. all guns blazing and who needs stinking masks.. the pups clearly agree and obviously had a warry eye much love and Thanks so much for sharing
Star brite No Damp Hanging Moisture Absorber & Dehumidifier available at West Marine AND an exhaust fan to remove all of the humidity from the washing machine.
Be careful with 03. Better use a weak h202 (h. peroxide) for mold.
Super awesome eye with the quarter cut grain Jade!
We recently had some mold issues due to condensation in our old house and found an air purifier really helpful as well.
Great tips her as all boats struggle with mold. Like ozone generator ( please be careful) and if have water version you can use to sterilize veggies.
Finally, I have used kilz on raw fiberglass , bilge & behind cabinets as resistant to growth.
Mask up when cleaning mold!!
I’ve used an aerosolized mold chemical in the past to mitigate mold in a basement. I think an annual treatment would be a good practice. Set the machine up, open everything and let it run. Ozone will kill the mold as well.
I've wondered about mold in cruising sailboats. The ozone tutorial was informative 🙂 nice Raf reference (I'm in construction and appreciate his skills) great episode 👏👏👏
You need to get one of those spring adapter for the drill. They will give you ability to bend the extension like you needed to for those her head screws.
Such an interesting episode! I think you are an amazing team and can tackle anything! Mould is always an issue in yachts… but better ventilation behind those cabinets is a must! ❤
Before re-installing the cabinets you should insulate the hull above the waterline to prevent condensation. You want condensation below the waterline as a natural de-humidifyer. Best insulation for the hull is the polyurethane foam floor pads that interlock.
Yes, the veneer is quarter-sawn rather than plain-sawn. Quarter-sawn makes the veneer much more stable. Great vid!
Glad to see you were using vinegar instead of bleach to clean it all off. Some people only use bleach thinking it will get rid of it - it doesn't. Vinegar actually kills the mold. Bleach is ok for any unsightly staining.
Good job tracking that down guy's hopefully your health gets back to normal now,
I looked inside my Aircond unit and saw black mould, So found my model on UA-cam and Dismantled it, Washed and cleaned with Hospital grade Disinfectant, Like New now and blowing beautiful Clean Air again.. Maybe also check inside Yours..
Love from The Land Down Under 😘 😘 😘
Ozone generators for the win! Kills mold and mold spores. Haven't had mold on my boat since, do it once a year as maintenance now.
14:32 yeah, you gotta let the drill run higher RPMs because the little fan on the back of the motor is cool the drill, besides that you guys are doing amazing
The drill is underpowered. It's not meant for these hard tasks. You need a heavier duty model not these mini ones.
It looks and sounds like he didn't have the drill in it's low gear, and he was barely pressing the trigger to keep the rpm slow, creating a situation that can overheat the motor/wiring.
Can you add mould inhibitor to paint and apply a layer of acrylic paint?
You might want to try a product like Wet And Forget Indoor to spray behind the cabinets and hidden spaces. It will fight mold for about 6 months. Just mist it in every 6 months.
drill tip. the drill wants to spins at max rpm for cooling. next time dont push and bump the trigger it will over heat and cook any grease on the motor.
If you are going to try to help the mold with improved ventilation I believe adding UVC lights in the system would help kill the mold spores.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge, the video helped me a lot.
I think Jade is referring to quarter sawn wood grain.
The veneer has interesting coloured ‘figuring’ whilst the grain in the veneer is probably straight, due to the direction of the cutting of the veneer through the section of the tree.
Note to boat designers and builders (well actually a request), for all your new future builds make everything quick release panels to get behind not only for repairs/maintenance but for frequent cleaning of mould!. We don't all live in hot dry climates you know!, in fact I expect more than you think don't!..
Whenever working on mold removal, mold experts will tell you, that a mask is preferable usually a 3M 95, as the spores are in the air when you disturb the surface, You could be sick for some time be very careful with your removal.
Great video, just did a deep clean in our caravan, same problem,
spray white vinegar in areas you can not reach and use a cloth whit white vinegar to wipe down . it will kill the mould spores.
I agree. Where are the masks? Should I send you a dozen or two?
dont worry they are so filled up with AG1 they will be fine.
''I love me some tedious tasks.''
Yup. That's one of your superpowers, Jade!
Ultra violet light kills mold. Look into it
So like a uvc light
Also Covid, reportedly.🤣
Hay you two fun video.....Thank for showing....
The ventilation in these boats is so bad. You can add ventilation, and it will help. Dehumidifier is also a great addition, it really helps. Meaco is a good brand for dehumidifier. Mine takes like over a liter of water from the air in 24h when it is cold out.
Try using Kilz Primer to prevent the mold from returning.
awww jeez....speaking as someone with a boat from 77, thank you for the additional projects!
oh, and you probably should have been wearing a mask.
I might say “greater” vocabulary 😊 (just to fuel the dissension)! It feels like it wasn’t so long back when all the fixtures were removed and then put back - which I’ll put down to “time flies when you’re having fun”!
11:46 too bad you didn’t notice there was a 3/8 adapter for the drill to use with the sockets in that big kit you had live and learn we’ve all been there. I just love that you guys are tackling this.
After 30 years aboard I have found you need to keep the cabin under 40% humidity or so. I prefer 35% or below. It can take a serious dehumidifier to accomplish this. I have pulled as much as a gallon of water a day. Humidity meters rock! I have an ozone generator but only crank it up for odor issues. Good luck guys.
Was so glad to find a new post from you guys. Oops, mild! Guess you can’t get away from all the problems. Anyway, as always enjoyed the update and fun to see you Be safe!❤
you will need to insulate the deckhead and the hull to prevent a repeat of this problem. Good Luck with a solution, it will make a huge difference to your personal health.
check under mattress to make sure it's not moldy !
I’ll go ahead and agree with the above comments suggesting an ozone generator. Tour buses use them a lot between leases to get rid of the accumulated foot/weed funk. The big ones should be used while you’re NOT aboard, but I’ve found smaller ones that plug into a 12v power outlet that are good for maintaining. Works wonders.