This is why philosophers are KILLED - Podcast 2

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  • Nietzsche on the role of philosophers and why philosophers are hated.
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  • @iamKristianBell
    @iamKristianBell  4 місяці тому +7

    Thinking of starting an instagram reactions series 😂
    Also: I don't support genocide or glabal wars. I'm just questioning the value of violence in general

    • @Paul-jr6iu
      @Paul-jr6iu 4 місяці тому

      Hey man, I think your perspective on masculinity is very outdated and pretty much the same as the ideal that people like andrew tate are pushing. I believe that you have good intentions and dont hate women or anything like that. I think your misguided positions seem so logical to you because youre citing works of great philosophers, just not the parts that got them their great reputatiom. I apologize for possible missunderstandings in this message, english isnt my first Language. However id love to have a debate on the Topic with you, to further understand each others positions and maybe even convince/be convinced. For your information, I subscribe to the modern view on gender, that you critise in your Videos.

    • @Slamlucifer
      @Slamlucifer 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Paul-jr6iuif you are willing to debate I can debate with you

    • @Slamlucifer
      @Slamlucifer 4 місяці тому

      Try me you won't get disappointed

    • @RagnarCayuse
      @RagnarCayuse 4 місяці тому

      @@Paul-jr6iuOk, Paul

  • @thyxed
    @thyxed 4 місяці тому +10

    We need to protect this man at all costs ❤

  • @spatrickcunningham
    @spatrickcunningham 24 дні тому

    Man, where have you BEEN in my life? I'm on my fifth video in a row; this channel is pure twenty-four-carat gold. When I get bored with these, I'm going to your site to find the rest of your work. Thank you for your service to humanity.

  • @chibuezennodim1438
    @chibuezennodim1438 4 місяці тому

    Very well said. You explained a lot of what I've been feeling inside lately about history and the world. There's an inner urge inside to test danger and fear, and I need to find it.

  • @birds771
    @birds771 2 місяці тому

    Excellent analysis

  • @dylanfierro4872
    @dylanfierro4872 2 місяці тому

    Another take on the matter of war making men, forging character etc. is not so much that it's war, it's the need for courage to stand up for principles. Doing so means you will come into conflict with the unprincipled, the non-virtuous. However, it needn't be physical conflict. The unprincipled are often our own flaws and laziness as much as speaking up about at a public meeting, and then having to fave potential disdain and loss of friends because one values virtue over shallow friendships.

  • @PeterVang-tw1qx
    @PeterVang-tw1qx 4 місяці тому +2

    I see what you are saying, that conflict might be necessary psychologically, and I would be inclined to lament this situation (but just because I don't want it to be true doesn't mean it isn't true). So my question is, could some other dangerous venture, possibly bestowing a great boon if successful, substitute for conflict? I'm thinking of exploration (by people, not robots), like the depths of the ocean, other planets, etc. (My question is to you, not Nietzsche.)

    • @iamKristianBell
      @iamKristianBell  4 місяці тому +1

      I agree and I appreciate your comment. This is my main question to life rn. We need a frontier of some kind.
      Business. Building an offgrid village in the wilderness. Team sports. Martial arts.
      But really we need community, and shared purpose and challenge together.

    • @PeterVang-tw1qx
      @PeterVang-tw1qx 4 місяці тому

      @@iamKristianBell Thanks for your reply. I agree, and keep up the great work!

  • @rexloss7199
    @rexloss7199 3 місяці тому

    thank u teacher

  • @Zen-tl5ie
    @Zen-tl5ie 4 місяці тому

    I generally agree with your concepts and ideas and I think you should try to debate some of your ideas. You could reach a new platform and more people. I think a collaboration between you and @PFJung would be really interesting!

  • @ONÇA9
    @ONÇA9 4 місяці тому

    I concur

  • @dekijurko
    @dekijurko 4 місяці тому

    If humane nature is also that shadow Jung talked about, how one human beign can form trust in another? I do support Jungian theory that speaks about shadow inside character, but this question of TRUST is something that occurs when we discuss this topic. (Forgive me for my bad english).

  • @dankman3899
    @dankman3899 4 місяці тому +1

    Violence inflicted on someone for no apparent reason is not the right thing, the nature example is not valid here as there violence is being committed in order to survive. Why do we need war in order to understand peace which could have been achieved by putting the war off in the first place. Complacency is a problem that war resolves but the violence could be avoided altogether if we introspect regularly if we chase virtue without the bad reminders
    I know im all over the place but i hope you get my point

    • @iamKristianBell
      @iamKristianBell  4 місяці тому

      I think we need conflict. Just might not be war. But I see what your saying

  • @user-xq7jc8yn2p
    @user-xq7jc8yn2p Місяць тому

    Judging from reasoning, climate change and world war will be the only thing to get us out of funk .

  • @MojoVince
    @MojoVince 4 місяці тому

    I felt that manifesting last year, there's always a conflict soemwhere, inside society, neighbourhood etc...
    Élections are coming this year as the perfect exemple and it's gonna look stupid, we all know that so is that kind of brotherhood great or childlish?
    Education will brought smarter conflicts and with that some kind of peace.
    We have to find the most common conflict, i always thought that if we were under alien threat, the earth would go as one.
    We have social inequality that would be great to fight altogether but global warming will strike first i guess.

    • @iamKristianBell
      @iamKristianBell  4 місяці тому

      I like your thinking. We do need to identify larger conflicts for unity.
      Im just sacred of the powers that be utilizing that for one world governance

  • @calholli
    @calholli 4 місяці тому +5

    So if we only fall into debauchery and decadence in times of peace and leisure, and we must have war and slaughter just to become our best selves: think about what that actually says about human nature. Where is the good?.. I disagree with you. I have no doubts that what you speak of is weaved throughout the roots of our evolution and cultural history; Yes, good men are rising stars in times of struggle and violence, but I don't think that the violence is a prerequisite like you're eluding. You're basically implying that violence is gods way-- it's the way nature operates/ therefore we should not oppose or resist it, and that we should embrace it, and that we actually need it; we depend on it to motivate us to be better and resist temptation of pleasure seeking... I disagree that it is a necessity. Correlation does not equal causation. Just because virtue may emerge in times of conflict, dose not mean that conflict incentivizes virtue....... Fundamentally, what you're boiling down to is fulfillment and purpose along with community and belonging and coming together for something greater than yourself. Ultimately, I believe we have to aspire to discover and create these things- create that brotherhood- without the requirement to destroy one another for it to manifest.

    • @iamKristianBell
      @iamKristianBell  4 місяці тому +1

      I think there could be an evolved form. Perhaps a group identifies an enemy that is more abstract, and then strugglea in it's overcoming. There needs to be some semblance of meaningful conflict for humans to thrive

    • @makeamericanativeamericana7436
      @makeamericanativeamericana7436 3 місяці тому

      @@iamKristianBellThat’s such a white European colonizer way of looking at the world. My NATIVE ancestors have proven you don’t need conflict for improvement. Our environment was better before Europeans despoiled it as they did their own in old Europe! Women were freer and in control of their bodies in our lands. In Europe they were basically property. Your culture knows nothing of LOVE or compassion. I’m sick of seeing these vids made by angry wyte men who don’t know how to cope and handle a world their ancestors “created”!

    • @069bizeps
      @069bizeps 3 місяці тому

      The thing is... For our time now, fighting literal (unjust) wars only for the sake of building group-identity would be the dumbest thing to do. There is no honor in it.
      But this doesn't take away from the truism of Kristians argument. Build strong bonds, know your enemy and act accordingly.
      In our western societies the enemies sit within the "group" and not outside. If they'd openly wage war against you, you better be prepared.

  • @frankieboy3657
    @frankieboy3657 4 місяці тому

    War is the father or all things - hippocrates

  • @zeljkop5695
    @zeljkop5695 4 місяці тому

    Nietzscheans should be about governing the Earth, masters of the Earth. The new people shall create those masters. See what was spoken at the World government channel in Dubai this year.

  • @rezazazu
    @rezazazu 4 місяці тому

    Well I kinda see your point but you seem to put one step further and even glorify war in all its greatness; which makes the whole concept problematic. Don't you think we, as a species, are almost past that point of comparing our modern lives to those of ancient or medieval warriors? Conflict might be necessary for personality development of both sexes but war and violence can be something of the past

    • @iamKristianBell
      @iamKristianBell  4 місяці тому

      Honestly I've held both of these points of view at different times. I think conflict is important, but it needs to evolve.

  • @davidberenblit4338
    @davidberenblit4338 2 місяці тому

    You’re like Casey Zander without the smug, arrogant mild narcissistic attitude!

  • @johndoeradiok
    @johndoeradiok 3 місяці тому

    I really like your videos, but the war doesn't work like you think it does anymore. Take it from an ukrainian.
    The root of the issue is more cultural, i think